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Why I eat baked potatoes, brown rice and whole grain bread
Creekimp13 replied to Creekimp13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The average bariatric patient gets a massive amount of their protein from protein drinks, protein bars, yogurt, cheese and milk. And they are encouraged to. Dairy products are strongly correlated to breast cancer, ovarian cancer, prostate cancer . No one discusses this, and fat people are getting thrown out of the frying pan into the fire. And it sucks because they work so hard to be healthy. The lack of education is staggering. -
Sick and thirsty and regretting
Spellbound replied to smm86's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@smm86 Everything you posted I experienced as well. I was really annoyed that I seemed to feel more bad than good and even though I was cleared to progress I couldn’t hack it with water (I liked sparkles too before I had to cut them out), I had a hard time with eggs, I ate tuna salad ok, but the lunch meats and cheese went down ok - just didn’t like them. Ground turkey went down, but sat like a ball of lead. Chicken was a major “no” and my taste buds rejected anything with sucralose. I went back to liquids and mushy foods and stayed there longer than the NUT required. I ate all kinds of soups and started smoothies with spinach, using Greek yogurt and BiPro protein water as my wet ingredient. Protein powders were a firm no to my taste buds. And for me, it worked. I had to continue Premier Protein to ensure I had enough protein and calories (was hovering below 500 when I was going through it) and still have yet to meet a water goal — but the step back was really helpful for me. After a week of going back to mushy and liquids, I tried refried black beans, turkey chili w/beans, and egg salad. Success! I’m still kind of doing wet and soft foods but I’m able to tolerate flavors and spices better and I get a better sensation in my stomach when I’m eating. I did feel terribly tired for about three weeks. Just freaking exhausted. So... you’re normal, love. I think your instincts will take you far. Still trying to figure out the multivitamin situation for myself. I vomit every time I take it. -
Post surgery 1st week check-up
CrankyMagpie replied to Granmasleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
My team lumps puree with soft food and suggests you start with easier things (ricotta, cottage cheese, yogurt) and gradually move down their list over time. But ground meat is totally on the same list (at the bottom! but on it) as yogurt, for me. I've had good success with going through their list and adding a new thing every day or two, as I feel comfortable. On day 6 of this phase, I just added tuna salad made with Greek yogurt and mustard and nothing "chunky." (I made it more "gloopy" than my usual recipe, too. Didn't want to risk it being too dry.) Maybe that's too slow a progression, though? I'm being so cautious. I hate throwing up. -
7-10 days full liquids, 3-6 weeks purees & soft foods (which they sort of lump together). They gave us a list of soft foods and suggested we work our way down it. (Each level has two things on it.) It starts with cottage cheese and ricotta, then yogurts and Greek yogurts, then sugar-free puddings/custards and soft-cooked eggs, then fat-free refried beans and low-fat tofu, then chicken or turkey made in a crockpot and baked fish that flakes easily (cod, salmon, tilapia, crab), then canned tuna/salmon/chicken and thinly sliced lunch meats, then ground meat and soups (lentil, for example) and chili. I'm on my 6th day of phase II, and I'm good with cottage cheese, ricotta, Greek yogurt, refried beans, and really gloopy tuna salad (made with Greek yogurt and mustard and without anything chunky in it). I cook my eggs thoroughly, so I'm holding off on that, and with the lifting restriction, I'll need someone to move the custard and its water bath into and out of the oven for me, so that's this weekend. Also maybe this weekend: ricotta bake! I'm trying not to rush things, but I'm also trying to work my way up into somewhat denser proteins so that I can drink fewer protein shakes.
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Wondering what other folks maintenance diets are like? How many calories, what types of foods, number of meals / snacks etc? I'm meeting with my nutritionist to tweak mine, I think I probably need to vary my diet a little bit and figure out how to maintain for the long term. Right now my diet consists of protein centered meals (eggs and sausage for breakfast, ground turkey with sour cream and taco shells for lunch, some kind of lean meat for dinner (4-5 oz) and usually 3 or so snacks throughout the day, which range from pure carbs (pretzels and hummus or chips) to more protein heavy (Greek yogurt). There's certain things I'd like to eat that I really still struggle with due to restriction (vegetables, more than a small amount of fruit and any kind of hard core starch like potatoes, rice or pasta are painful after more than maybe 1 oz). To get enough calories my goto is peanut butter toast, nuts or sometimes a protein shake smoothie. Daily calories for me are around 2,000 and probably vary from 1500 - 2500 depending on what I'm doing. At that level I'm slowly losing weight What's your program like? can/could you eat stuff like potatoes in any quantity 10 months out?
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I thought it would be more clear...
Frustr8 replied to Separ1418's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
And I am waiting for my second attempt at releasing my stricture, Dr Noria, my Dr Needleman's partner who is very skillful at endoscopy, , to quote Duck Dynasty, it is her "bang zone", attempted on October 12 to release it, dicovered I now have 5 new ulcers, around the stoma opening and on the back wall of,the jejunem, I have been on Carafate around the clock every 6 hoursc(6am-Noon- 6pm-Midnight) and doubled up my omeprazole to twice daily, told me to maintain vitamins, Zofran, minerals, and of course the Carafate, and omeprazole, which I was on when my first ulcer, Hector, was discovered back in December 2017, I don't believe for,me it is gastric-protective, but I will slog along with it. Liked Dexilent MUCH better but They are the specialists, aren't they? And the same liquid diet, what I Call Stage 2A, there are things on a true 2 Precious Pouch balks or refuses. Don 't add anything she has refused before, this includes plain Greek yogurt weak runny cooked cereal, cottage cheese, even a salted soggy saltine, I always could keep them down the only other time in life when I had so much emesis, pregnancy. She will try again October 26th, another EGJ, can't call it an EGD, because a bypasser's duodenum is no longer accessible. And this morning I woke up with right subcostal pain, the self-same pain that sent me to the gastroenterologist last winter. They thought then, it m8ght have been from Hector, my anteal gastric ulcer, that's why I underwent my EGD then. Took my Carafate as close as I could to 6AM, I had a rough night, got woke up about 2, couldn't get back to sleep until 4:30, then back awake for that dumb pill. Have to pour boiling water on it to melt it down and chug, well you know, what passes for a chug these days, the slurry. Tastes about as thrilling as white flour paste, but I do it,I do it. So now what, keep sipping small sips of water, go open a protein shake, or stop even putting THAT in? I've read , I've studied, I probably got as much book knowledge as a layperson can have, but still this surgery did not come with an Owners Manual. I am in Subjective, not Objective Mode. See my white flag waving? I SURRENDER! Bypass Surgery 150 Frustr8 Nil! And yes, my bowels are working so I can't be full of💩anymore. -
@ElectricBoogaloo I am having similar experience to you. I have been able to swallow normal mouthfuls of both water and yogurt, soup, etc. I wondered if I have placebo sleeve as well! I am 3 days post op when it's supposed to the worst I thought.
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Yonanas.....it's a wonderful thing!
Creekimp13 replied to Creekimp13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Well...that might pose a problem. That said....I've done frozen raspberries and chunks of frozen yogurt that turned out pretty terrific. And even my friend who hates bananas likes my chocolate "ice cream". -
I'm now a little past two weeks out. I was allergic to something they used during the surgery, and I broke into hives all over my torso a week out. I'm still dealing with that, though I think maybe it's getting a little better now. My incisions are all looking good, no pain to speak of. I'm on soft/puree foods (my team doesn't make a distinction) and have worked my way through Greek yogurt, ricotta, cottage cheese, and refried beans. I'm a little afraid to make the jump to chicken, baked fish, or canned tuna. Or eggs--I don't "soft cook" eggs; I cook them all the way through, so I was planning to keep holding off on those for a bit. But I know once I get some kind of denser protein source in my daily life, I won't have to drink so many protein shakes. That's a pretty big enticement. Drinking enough liquid is only hard because I have to stop half an hour on either side of eating, and I'm still sleeping a lot. But I can drink normal (pre-op) amounts, per sip, as long as I don't actually gulp. I can walk a mile, if there are benches where I can stop and rest for a few seconds here and there. (I needed that pre-op, too, because of arthritis. My arthritis is less bad at the moment; now, I stop mostly because I'm still not supposed to be getting out of breath, and most of the places to walk around here have hills.)
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I was happy I found a multi vitamin with iron and calcium that I can drink that doesn't taste like meds. And now, I only have to take 2 of those (which I just add to my water) and 1 calcium. Before I had to take 3 multi vitamin with iron and 3 calcium chews. And I have my prescribed meds that I have to open my capsules and take with yogurt. That's the hardest part. I can't wait to be approved to swallow meds again.
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Hello everyone! So I’m on my puréed stage and all I have is puréed fruit, yogurt, egg beaters and cream soups... please give me some more ideas because I’m so bored of the same food. oh and considering not all of what I eat is glorious some days are good and others I spend in the bathroom... like if my stomach didn’t like it then out! tell me everything, everything o can try please
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When trying new foods try one at a time. For example the egg and Greek yogurt. Try the yogurt on its own then the egg, that way if one gives you a problem you'll know which it is. My surgery was performed by Kaiser, here is the link to the Bariatric teams website with info on diet, meal plans and shopping lists and other useful help Kaiser Bariatric After Surgery Page. Hope this helps.
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Food Before and After Photos
FluffyChix replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
More before/afters...I'm just rakin' up the non-clean-plate-statuses today. Yogurt, 2% cottage cheese, mandarin oranges (lite, no sugar added), almonds: -
I'm going to hit my stall now. I can tell, because 1) almost everybody stalls when they start moving on to real foods, in addition to the liquids, and 2) I'm at 302 pounds, lol, and the scale knows I want to see the 2 in the first digit.
I'm fine. It's not going to freak me out or really even upset me. Honestly, I could stand the reconfiguration of inches that always comes with a stall, for me.
I'm posting here in between bites of refried beans, which (knock on wood) seem to be going pretty well for me, so far. I'm so happy. Between ricotta (with a little sauce and a little seasoning) and refried beans (with a very small amount of low-fat cheese melted in), I can live without chewable foods for a pretty long time. (I'm also eating yogurt and ricotta cheese.) I do want to upgrade to the ricotta bake, because it has better protein and might cut down the number of protein shakes I need in a day. It's probably a bit more firm than ricotta alone, so I held off at first, but I think it's time, don't you? Plus, my spouse can put it over pasta and enjoy it with me.
I'm eating 2.5 ounces of ricotta in a serving and maybe that much in beans? (this is my first attempt, but that's how much I served myself) I can eat 4 ounces of Greek yogurt in half an hour, which feels like a lot before the 2 week anniversary of my surgery. But I still haven't really figured out my body's "full" signal. I felt a little sick and stopped eating, one time, which made me think I'd overdone it. Other times, I just take tiny bites, sometimes a few minutes apart, for half an hour. And then I refrigerate or throw out what's left, because that was the guidance the nutritionists gave me. But other people talk about a sore shoulder or something as their signal, and I haven't found that yet.
I guess it'll come with time and practice.
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Don't talk yourself into a stall. They're common, but not everyone has them early on. I honestly haven't had one yet. I've only had 3 "up" weeks in almost 8 months and none of them was from a stall. (One was from vacation, two were recovering from losing 13 lbs in 10 days because I was prescribed too much diuretic and ended up dehydrated in the er ☹️) You're unique, just let it go.
It is early for you to recognize a "full" signal. Pretty much all the foods you're eating right now are sliders that just pass through your pouch. Other than the refried beans, most of them won't stay long enough to trigger a "fullness" feeling. Don't worry, it will come. You're doing great!
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If it's a stall, it's only in comparison to the ridiculous speed with which I lost during immediate pre- and post-op. I'm still down like half a pound from when I posted this. (Half a pound in four days is slow for this stage of the journey, but it's still good!)
Thanks for the reassurance! It's good to be told I'm doing well. ❤️
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Yeah, we love that non-linear weight loss when we have a 4-pound week. Not so much with a 1/2-pound week. I only weigh twice a week (and only write it down on Saturday) in an attempt to keep the insecurity monster at bay 😉
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Hello friends , I can start eating puréed food . I tried tuna salad with light mayo , no success , boiled egg with Greek yogurt , Ran to the restroom a second later . Am I rushing things ? Should I start with more basic stuff ? Any recommendations ? Thanks G
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Are you not eating / drinking broth? Drinking bone broth will give you your proteins and nearly as much if not more than a spoonful of yogurt. You should also check with your surgical team before changing up your diet. Just because it's feels fine, doesn't mean it is fine. Water helps the bowels move, Make sure you're meeting your water goals. That should be your number 1 focus followed by proteins.
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1 week post op
Lynnlovesthebeach replied to Granmasleeve's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
How long do you have to do clear liquids? My surgery was the day before yours but I only had to do clears for 3 days. I am now on "full liquids" for 2 weeks and it includes greek yogurt...my lifesaver! I just put some unflavored protein powder in it and I'm good to go. Premier Protein Clear is good if you have to stay on clears much longer.Good luck! -
2 weeks out today and cleared to move to pureed food. I decided to wait until dinner to have the pureed food because I didn't want to have a negative reaction while at work. Took about two bites of pureed chicken with mayo and was full. A little discomfort adjusting to the non-liquid but not too bad. I'm afraid to push it though so I'll probably sticking with liquids and yogurt for breakfast and lunch tomorrow also. Biggest problems right now are pain towards left of my belly button and not being regular[emoji90]. Pain only occur when I move the wrong way. I'm hoping it normal surgery pain and not a hernia or anything like that. Overall, this experience has not been bad at all. Have not experienced a single regret. Very happy to be on the loser's bench. Sent from my SM-G960U using BariatricPal mobile app
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It’s been one week. Had my first BM and I still feel bloated. I feel like I should’ve lost something being I’m on a clear diet. I feel weak so I sneaked in two spoons of plain yogurt to my jello. Went down fine so I’m doing again. I need protein!
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Soft scrambled eggs and make sure to take small bites and chew slowly. I had an issue with eggs at first because of my size of my bites. Greek lowfat yogurt has been a staple for the longest now. Tuna packs was good but I had to add a lot of mustard and mayo to my canned tuna or canned chicken because it felt so dry going down. Your new tummy will eventually get used to foods but take your time and my dietician said my fluids was more important than getting all the food in, especially in the beginning.
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2 Weeks Post-Op - Full Esophagus?
beingdina replied to beingdina's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thank you so much for your kind words. Thanks everyone! I am feeling MUCH better now and am almost back to my pre-issue liquid levels, but have been REALLY scared to try things like jello and yogurt and runny oatmeal and runny cream of wheat after that. I tried 1 ounce of plain 0% Fage yogurt with a sprinkle of dried sugar-free jello mix and that was ok, but was mucous-y, but not awful. I also have since tried some sugar free jello which was okay and only had 3 ounces over 30 minutes. Definitely sick of the protein shakes. Also learning that temperature plays a big role in how it sits with me. Room temp is GROSS, really warm like tea sits well, and ice cold sits well too. So strange. I have 1 week until I am allowed to start soft foods, and may do my own pureed foods week before actually going into the soft foods out of fear (babyfood style). Definitely going to try to stick to whole foods, except for some low/nonfat condiments and sugar free condiments). I am still dealing with some reflux (my stomach is downright sick and tired of not having real food to process I think, as I'm taking Pepcid twice a day). Overall, feeling much better. Thank you! -
RECOVERY IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THOUGHT!
johnsons13 replied to Frustr8's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I thought I was past prepared for a surgery like this. Physically I was. Surgery is nothing new to me. I've had a tonsillectomy, wisdom teeth removed, 2 D & C, 3 C-sections, gall bladder removed, and a hysterectomy. I thought I'm a pro at being put to sleep. It's more the mental part that's the hardest. Falling back into old behaviors just because I "crave" something or because I'm still "hungry". Who wants dry baked chicken when dry potato chips go down so much easier. Another thing I crave is crunch. I found I love scrambled eggs with diced red onion in it. .OMG so yummy. So, starting tomorrow. I"m going to plan my meals better where I don't get sick of the same things over and over. Cajun chicken breast in the crock pot is so juicy. But the physical part wasn't bad. OH, and I hate having to crush my meds to take them I'm sick of yogurt just from taking meds. -
RECOVERY IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THOUGHT!
Leia replied to Frustr8's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm just over 2 months post op. Mostly its been like what I expected. I'm losing weight pretty quickly. Over 40 pounds since surgery, and over 60 since my highest weight. The unexpected part has been the gas. It still hasn't gone away, I wake up and am feeling 'belchy' and gross before I've even eaten anything. Almost everything I eat or drink (including water) seems to cause more of it too. Its humiliating if I'm in public (though I keep them quiet/silent as possible) and in generally I just feel pretty icky. Bone broth and yogurt seem to help, and my surgeon doesn't seem concerned, but its driving me crazy. Still, I'd do it again! I have way more energy than I used to already and I'm excited for the future (hopefully one with less burbling and bubbles). -
Hey, just checking in (I read back through the thread to see how folks are doing. Thank you all for the well-wishes and condolences. ❤️ I just successfully ate my first cottage cheese since surgery (10/3), and I've done fine with Greek yogurt and ricotta (with just a little Italian seasoning and low-fat Trader Joe's pizza sauce, because that's what I have on hand). Balancing my nutritionists' "try to eat three meals per day" with "get more than 60 grams of protein" and "don't drink within half an hour of eating" and "get more than 64 ounces of liquid" is ... a lot, especially with going back to school and dealing with family stuff. I'm not getting all that much protein from my food, because I'm only eating a couple of tablespoons, maybe, per "meal." I know it gets easier, and if I'm only at 55 grams of protein one day (or, like ... three?) it won't kill me or make all of my hair fall out. I'm not freaked out about it, just sharing the struggle, I guess. My vitamins make me a little sick, though as the amount of food I can eat increases, so does my tolerance for them. It'll work itself out. Also, I joked to my spouse, before surgery: "I'm ready for all kinds of complications, so the one I end up with will be one I didn't think of." Yeah. Uh. I was allergic to something they used during the surgery. About a week afterward, I broke out in hives all over my torso and the tops of my thighs. My surgeon isn't very helpful: "try taking Benadryl, and if that doesn't work I'll order a steroid block for you, but I don't want to do that." (Steroids wreak havoc on post-surgical healing.) I've looked for information online, and most people get over them on their own, so I'm making due with hydrocortisone cream (it's a steroid, but only a low amount of it, and on my skin instead of being taken as a pill), Aveeno eczema-strength lotion (has a lot of oats in it, which are good for this kind of thing), and Benadryl at night. So... that's been awful. (They are very itchy hives. It's terrible.) I can drink pretty normally again, now. I don't have to have these itty-bitty sips. I think gulping would hurt, and I make sure not to do that, but normal-size mouthfuls feel good. So... that's what just under two weeks out looks like, for me.
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RECOVERY IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THOUGHT!
cindy t replied to Frustr8's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am exactly two weeks post op. Overall, it went as i thought it would. The only surprises were: 1) I felt like a zombie (kinda outta my head) for the first full week. 2) I had way less restriction than i thought i would. (I had a lap-band till three years ago.) I'm thinking i was possibly used to that feeling of restriction and maybe expected more. I'm sure it'll show it's face once i start "real" food. 3) I thought the surgery would decrease my appetite more. I'm sure it has to a degree but my head still longs for flavors and textures quite a bit. I have no regrets, so far so good. I feel like my normal self now. I'm ready to move to the next phase but can't for another few days per my instructions. Everything is just about healed. No nausea, vomiting, headaches or gerd. Ready to put, Popsicles, jello and yogurt behind me!
