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With the liquid diet is anyone working out or all of this weight loss is due to all liquids?
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I went to my Bariatric doctor a couple of months ago as I had been suffering some weight regain and I was worried about the direction my body was going after having had the sleeve Dec 2018 and then Roux Y Bypass Oct 2020. She put me on Metformin and Phentermine to help counteract the effects of some of my other medication and menopause. I too had been experiencing the worst smelling stools imaginable and felt that I could never travel. The Metformin had the best side effect and turned that around for me and for the first time since having the surgeries, I had normal smelling stools! Game changer!! I have no blood sugar issues and am only taking the Metformin 500 mg twice a day for weight management reasons but it is controlling the smell of my stools! So I had to share as I had too like the rest of you been suffering since 2018 with the same issues up until a couple of months ago....
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The "honeymoon" period
maintenanceman replied to RobertM2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I found that I needed more and more calories to be satiated as the months passed. By 6 mo post-op, I just couldn't maintain a very low calorie diet without becoming ravenously hungry. And, my weight loss progressively slowed down each month until the weight loss petered out at 9 months post-op. I reached my goal weight, losing 100% of my excess weight. I currently eat 1800-2000 calories a day and have maintained my final weight for five months so far. While my hunger has returned, it is nothing like it was pre-op. I feel very much in control of my hunger, and I find it difficult to overeat... even when I want to. And my body generally craves healthier, cleaner foods vs. the garbage fast/junk food that was the staple of my diet pre-op. I suspect the reason people regain is they increasingly indulge in slider foods... crackers, chips, cookies, etc... and start drinking their calories... sugary drinks, alcohol, ice cream and such. I think it would be very hard for me to eat enough "real" food to regain. My restriction is still very present, but it's easy to defeat it by "eating around" my sleeve. -
My hunger came back gradually too into my second year. I had my first experience of real hunger at about 8 months after a busy day when I hadn’t really eaten but not again for months. I still have times when I’m not really hungry or don’t eat all my usual portion & I’m 4 years out now. Because I eat regularly throughout the day I don’t really feel HUNGRY just yep must be time for my meal/snack. Your portion sizes slowly increase as your losing until you get to a point where you are consuming the calories & nutrients your body needs to work effectively & your weight stabilises. It’s then up to you to manage your portions & calories by permanently adopting the changes & things you’ve learnt within your lifestyle (what you need & how you want to live & enjoy your life). I eventually I reached a point where I was I eating about the accepted portion size of the protein, vegetables, fruit, dairy, etc. for my meals & snacks & to get in my daily calorie needs to maintain. It’s plenty of food & I don’t need or want more. I consume about 1500 calories which is appropriate for someone my height, age, weight & activity levels. (Interestingly I consumed about 1300 when I first stabilised & though I eat more now I’ve pretty much maintained my weigh. I presume to do with my body settling & adjusting.) I choose to rarely eat sweet foods or drinks. I don’t eat bread, rice, pasta or potatoes but then they tend to sit heavily so an easy choice. I tend to eat whole or low processed foods most of the time. Do I experience head hunger at times? Yes. But I recognise now that it’s not real hunger.Of course there are times I give in to it but I make better choices - like a few nuts, a little fruit or am trying beef jerky at the moment. It’s funny but I rarely specifically crave salt, sugar or a specific food anymore except sometimes after I eat yoghurt I will crave salt. Don’t know why though. This is how I am. You may be totally different & that’s okay. It comes down to how you manage it.
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Success with Berberine?
Arabesque replied to annamassie's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
Have to admit I’ve never heard of it so looked it up. I did read it said there is no sound scientific evidence of it helping with diabetes & reducing blood sugar, cholesterol, or weight loss though. Your surgery will definitely help with these if they are your concerns anyway. As with all natural remedies, check with your doctor first to ensure there aren’t any negative side effects or drug interaction issues with meds you are on so you can make an informed decision to use it or not. -
How far out from your surgery are you? It’s quite common to feel lethargic, sleepy & have low energy after the surgery while you are healing and at other random times as your body adjusts to changes (weight loss, increased activity, etc.). What you are experiencing may just be part of the process & nothing to do with your vitamins. Listen to your body if it is telling you to rest or nap. (If you’re able of course. Not many bosses appreciate you curling up under your desk at work unfortunately. A little Seinfeld reference 😉) I loved those daily naps & rests I had after my surgery. Wish I could still justify them now.
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COLLEGE students - please help!
vsg2410 replied to goatsarecool's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I commend you for making this decision! One of my doctors first brought up surgery when I was in college. At that point, I knew I wasn’t ready to take my health that seriously. I wanted to have a “normal” college experience. I 100% do not regret waiting until after college to have the surgery since I knew I wasn’t ready. I’m still in my early 20s and it’s a tough life adjustment. My social life lessened a lot early on due to not being able to eat out or drink alcohol. I’d say in terms of college life that would be one of the bigger struggles post op. Also, depending on your dining options at school it can be difficult to track and have good options. At the beginning about the first 2 months it may be difficult to hide from your roommate that you’ve had surgery. The food options are pretty limited and the quantity is very small. But, a lot of college aged students have not struggled with weight yet and have no idea about bariatric surgery so they may never catch on! Also something to keep in mind, most people at my surgery center are out of work for 2 weeks. I know a lot of people say they feel fine after surgery, but it hit me hard and I needed the full 2 weeks off of work. I’ve heard that younger patients can have more side effects from anesthesia and that was definitely the case for me. So I’d definitely recommend at least 2 weeks before move in day. In terms of approaching the conversation with my parents, I told my mom that I had something important to talk to her about and I wanted her to support me in my decision. Later after I had gone through the pre surgical processes and had a date, I told my dad I decided to have surgery to improve my health and gave him the opportunity to ask any questions. Best of luck to you! -
I had my band removed in April 2023 and began to gain weight immediately. I was suddenly able to eat breakfast again, so I did! I am having RNY in June (6 weeks after the band removal), and my surgeon was upfront that the vast majority of patients who have their bands removed will unfortunately regain at least some weight since the stomach is almost back to its pre-band state without restriction.
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For me, hunger came back gradually. At first 800 cal was hard to get to, then it became easier, then 1200 seemed impossible, then it became harder to stay at 1200 calories... Etc. It's natural for our capacity and hunger to expand a little overtime but never close to what it was pre-surgery. The honeymoon period is the best time to reinforce the right way to eat and how to deal with life's problems without food. I think one of the reasons people gain lots of weight later is because they just aren't committed to the life-long changes needed to keep the weight off. Many use life's problems as an excuse to eat around their sleeve, like snacking on slider foods. Some blame the surgery itself when it isn't the surgery but their unwillingness to stay on plan from day one. If you stick to the basic rules of your program, and stay focused you will be successful. Many gain a small amount weight after reaching it's lowest weight, but that is just the body adjusting to get to a healthy weight for you and that is natural too.
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Hi there! Just wanted to gain some perspective. Out of anyone here who had the gastric bypass, can you give me info on your journey? How much weight did you lose in the first month, 3 months, 6 months after surgery? I'm working on getting my clearances so that I can have surgery in late summer. My friend, who just had GB, told me "your new life doesn't start the day of your surgery, but right now, so take care of yourself!" So, I'm trying. But hearing what others have experienced will give me some perspective and I'm big on that kind of thing.
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I lost 25 pounds in 3 months before surgery and your friend is right. Putting off losing weight till surgery date just reminded me of all the excuses I made before. I'll wait till Monday to start or after the holidays.
I'm 8 weeks out from Gastric Bypass and lost another 25. So I'm averaging about 3 pounds a week post-surgery. That's the most I've ever lost consistently over time without regain so I'm happy. Good luck on your journey!
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Struggling… the evil voice is back.
Not sure replied to mcipanda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I limit my simple carbs like bread, rice and pasta to less than 30g day, but don’t limit complex carbs. It is not just about calories in and out, macros play a big part in weight loss. I’m 7 months post op, appetite came back at 5 months but I go by the simple rules of protein, non starchy carbs, and unadultered fruit. I have lost 145lbs and now maintaining my weight at 180lbs. All that being said I track everything going into my body and all energy expenditures to ensure that I’m on track, just my way to ensure I don’t slip. My dietitian has said to live by the 80-20 rule, follow 80% of the time and save 20% for a cheat day, I have been brave enough to try for fear of slipping back to old habits. Best of luck, wishing you all the success to meet your goals. -
Thank you for the reply Spinoza. I'm sort of gathering from your comments and other things I have read that the best hope for success is to use the honeymoon phase to learn and adapt new eating habits...obviously better ones than we all had pre-surgery...and then carry those habits forward for the rest of our lives. I think the crux of my question/concerns is, once the honeymoon phase ends, did you find that your hunger levels returned to pre-surgery levels and that the work and day-to-day stress of just dealing with food/eating/quantity to be as difficult as it was pre-surgery? I've run into quite a few people who have had gastric surgery, lost weight and then regained very large amounts of it back and I am quite perplexed as to how this happens....and I don't mean that in a rude way at all....simply because I would like to avoid that issue/problem. Thanks again to anyone who can share their insight. Robert
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No I only had a final goal weight and to be honest that was purely aspirational - I had no idea whether or when I would reach it! It was a weight I had reached previously by diet and exercise and felt good at. Hunger returned when I had lost approx 100lbs - probably a quarter of that on my long pre-op diet and three quarters in the 9 or 10 months post op. I went on to lose about another 40lbs. But honestly it is so different for different people. That's just how it went for me. Very best of luck to both of you.
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Did you have a goal weight that you got to before your hunger returned, or was it later?
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You're absolutely right - it seems to be very different for different people. I had a gradual return of hunger at around 9 or 10 months. Probably over the course of a couple of weeks. If I ate my protein first I still felt full with around the same size of meal, I just wanted to eat again sooner afterwards. Then on top of that as the months progressed I could eat greater volumes - that continued AND I was hungry too. I learned here that head hunger is often craving a specific food or taste or texture, but real hunger can be addressed by eating most anything. So I started to have fruit and veg for snacks and that seems to have worked for me. My 3 main meals are protein first always. I could have just added another meal, but I had been concerned all along that I wasn't getting anything like the recommended fruit and veg intake. My weight loss had slowed when my hunger returned and I stopped losing more or less completely around 15 months post op. I'm 18 months out now and so far maintaining. Everything crossed.
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Woo hoo! June 6, 2023 is the day. Initially had the lapband through True Results in 2011 (lost 100lb and maintained) then they disappeared! Removed that in Jan 2023 due to an issue unfortunately gained 36 lbs. Now VSG on June 6th, praying this tool and I become best friends and work well together. 😜
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Struggling… the evil voice is back.
summerset replied to mcipanda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Fun fact: whenever my boss is on vacation I tend to drop weight, years and years after surgery. High stress job, little time to eat. Part of my meals of the day is usually fruit. The containers I use for a mixed fruit salad holds about 450 g. Sandwiches, wraps, quick bean pasta dishes... everything not-too-unhealthy, tasty and quick - and carbs all the way. It's the calories that makes or breaks it, folks. The calories. Not some magic macronutrient balance. -
First appointment
pintsizedmallrat replied to stevechavez505's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
They wouldn't offer both if they weren't a good solution for different people. Gastric sleeve, in general, results in about 10% less weight loss than bypass, but also has fewer long-term limitations...but I am a sleeve patient who lost every bit of their excess weight and more. In *general*, you hear of less sleeve patients who cannot tolerate certain foods a couple years after the procedure, and bypass patients sometimes end up being unable to tolerate certain things ever again. That being said, I am a sleeve patient, I am 21 months PO and I still don't tolerate apples, potatoes, rice, pasta, certain types of bread, or carbonation very well so I am still actively avoiding them (which, in a way, has helped me stay on track, so I suppose it's a bit of a mixed bag). I would listen to your doctor's recommendation and make sure you understand their reasoning for making said recommendation. There is a reason both surgeries are as common as they are. -
First appointment
summerseeker replied to stevechavez505's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Lots of people have an easy choice here because they already had GERD. People with GERD have a Bypass because it 99% stops it. I had the sleeve and ended up with GERD. Its a small percentage but its unpleasant to be sure. Many people with GERD have a Bypass later. There is little difference between the weight loss for either surgery. In the UK it cost £2000 more for a Bypass than the sleeve, I went with my surgeons recommendation, he said the sleeve would be fine so that's what I had. Had he said otherwise I would have stumped up the extra cost, I wish I had the Bypass now. -
Injectable weight loss drugs
BabySpoons replied to Mygirl0226's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have Anthem BCBS and was diagnosed pre-diabetic. My doctor put me on Semaglutide a few years ago but I didn't continue with it after I read it was known to cause tumors and cancer in clinical trials. Plus the only way to maintain the lost weight is to continue injections indefinitely 😕 -
Almost 5 years post-op/ taste-smell still compromised
Born in Missouri replied to Born in Missouri's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I have them. All of them. I can afford to have them as well. I understand the differences between calcium citrate and calcium carbonate. I use sublingual b12, etc. My daughter is a PharmD. Both of my sons are MDs. I often have vit D levels in the single digits, which is why I've been given 50,000 units of vit D by my endocrinologist. I'm lax on my anti-depressants as well. I'm not sure why it's this way. I know I should be taking them. I just don't feel motivated. I doesn't help to come here and not be honest. I know I should make the effort. Why did I go through all this just to endanger my health at this point? My current weight is about 189. I have yet to reach my goal of 150, which was probably unrealistic. All that skin and the kangaroo pouch from four pregnancies are here to stay. Don't get me wrong. I consider pregnancy-related scars and bulges to be the price a woman pays for amazing children. I hope that doesn't sound too corny. I fear I am rambling. I have not logged in here for a while. I even had to refresh my memory as to when I got my surgery. -
Question! I have Anthem blue cross blue shield. Did anyone get pre approved for weight loss injections for pre diabetes? I’m not quite diabetic but wanted to see if anyone got approved pre diabetic. Have about 20 lbs to lose 3 years after gastric bypass. Slow regain.
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CarolineLittle Yep constipation was awful finally semi normal bm yesterday. What a relief! I can drink more water just afraid of stretching my pouch. I am at a stall too, gained 2 lbs. not walking as much as I should. Only 1 mile. See doctor tomorrow hope the drains come out. Anyone else have drains? I had some complications and think that may be why I have them. Also hope doctor moves me to soft food stage
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Almost 5 years post-op/ taste-smell still compromised
catwoman7 replied to Born in Missouri's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I wish I didn't enjoy eating - it'd be a lot easier to control my weight! I was really hoping I'd be one of those minority of patients whose hunger never comes back, but unfortunately, it did. BUT....you should be taking your vitamins. Not taking them is not an option for RNY patients. Deficiencies are no joke. Some defiencies you can come back from, others you can't. Why aren't you taking your vitamins? -
May 2023 surgeries
travelgal replied to WVJess2Less's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
At my 2-week post op group class with the surgeon’s nutritionist at Miami UHealth, we were told to increase our water/liquid intake significantly. 3liters for those 200-250, and 3.5liters for 250-300. 1 liters is equivalent just over 33 ounces. I’m not there yet, but I can generally take in 80 ounces with no problem. On another note I lost 9 pounds the first week and have been in a full stall for two weeks. I really hope it ends soon, but I feel good and am being patient to see weight loss after a period of healing.
