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I Am Not Really Seeing The Weight Loss I Was Expecting
Hey Man posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Greetings, So I finally had my sleeve surgery 3 weeks ago and while there has been weight loss, it hasn't really been what I expected. I don't have unrealistic expectations, but I expected to lose more weight than if I just did it on my own without the surgery with little calorie intake and some activity like with doing Optifast prior. Or just eating healthy and going for a walk everyday - which I wasn't doing prior. Perhaps it takes a month to really get things going, but I am hardly really eating anything when compared to the 4,000 calories+ a day I was eating that got me this way. I do eat a breakfast, lunch and dinner, so I am not starving myself - but I am not yet in the solid food phase yet. I have sort of reprogrammed my brain and I am not really craving the things now that made me obese. Now granted I know I JUST had the surgery and don't know how things will be 4 months from now, but I am just sort of wondering in the back of my mind if the surgery was really necessary in the sense that I maybe could have lost the same amount of weight if I finally just stuck to living a better life when it comes to food and my health. I would appreciate any feedback or advice from anyone else where weight loss started a bit slow even with having a smaller stomach now or feedback in general. Thanks! HM -
Hello everyone!! I'm currently in the process of getting weight loss surgery, i'm torn between Sleeve and RNY. My doctor recommended sleeve but my number 1 concern is acid reflux, I don't have any issue that I know of with acid reflux now but I've hear people developed reflux/GERD shortly after the procedure or years later. Is there anyone that has not had any issues with reflux since having surgery? I'm torn .....
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Hi @Jamie72! Thanks for sharing! I understand about going back and forth about surgery. I opted against the new drugs because they're in such short supply and I don't want to be dependent on the drug supply chain to keep my weight off. Surgery seems like the option that gives me the most control of my success. I didn't think about Reddit, but I agree youtube has videos that help.
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Looking for women 46 who had the sleeve
ms.sss replied to Jaz&kar5's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
we are/were ALMOST surgery-stat twins. i was 46 when i had my sleeve in 2018, i'm 5'2" and weighed 235 lbs 2 weeks before surgery...so a BMI of 43. Yours is 44.3, so yeah, ALMOST-twins! I got to goal around 7 months, and yes i has saggy skin. For me though, i had little underlying fat so it wasn't so much rolly-looking, but more like wrinkled-lumpy-bedsheet-looking. what fixed it? plastic surgery (i had a tummy tuck, arm lift and breast lift). my butt is pretty saggy still, and "hangs low" lol, but i can live with it. also the vertical skin lines on my neck gives away how old i am now but i can also live with it...sort of, ha! (in the link to collage below, the last two pics in the middle row are me 2 and 3 months before plastics. the last row is entirely post-plastics. i keep meaning to update this collage with more recent ones, as im 4.5+ years post-wls, but im lazy! i am still basically the same weight just not as defined anymore...i don't exercise nearly as much as i did back then.) -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
ms.sss replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Not a new one, just a re-validation of previously-enjoyed one: I LOST weight on vacation. I've been on a few getaways in the past 12 months, and each time I come back, i'm always lighter than when i left (after i get rid of all my obligatory vacation-constipation backup of course, lol). I remember pre-surgery i would always come home 5-ish lbs heavier (even after a good poop) Guess this means i should go on vacation more! P.S. i also almost always eventually gain back the weight lost, but still! -
Bad habits before and after WLS
Jjohnson1971 replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My surgery is not until the 12th but I have plenty of bad habits before. 1. Boredom eating is my biggest issue. 2. Using food to show love. My family has never been the "I love you" type so I grew up on food celebration and over endulgence to make up for the lack of affection. My mom would give me entire banana cream pies as my breakfast when I was little. Now I do the same. When anyone comes over I make a huge dinner with enough to eat on for 2 days. 3. Making jokes about me being fat before anyone else can. It's my super shield. 4. Going through depressive states where I won't eat for days but then also going thru them where its all I want to do. 5. Having a fear that after surgery I will gain my weight back. 6. Wearing sweatpants and black shirts everyday (literally wearing that right now). 7. Blaming my farts on the dog. 8. Having to not carry cash so I can't sneak thru the drive thru without my wife knowing. I could do this all night but I think this list will do. -
Post Surgery - Ability to Exercise for long periods ?
BabySpoons replied to LandofHopeandDreams's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I used to do long distance riding and loved it. I trained many miles for Century rides and MS 150's for charity. That was in my 20's. As I got older I cut back on long exercise sessions (biking, weights and jogging). Big mistake and started gaining weight. But my Mom became ill and I began taking care of her instead of myself and didn't take the time anymore. I eventually stopped exercising altogether when I suddenly couldn't breathe, and everything became hard for me to do. I was misdiagnosed as having COPD and kind of gave up on myself at that point. It was only recently with pre op testing for Bariatric surgery that I found out I never had COPD and couldn't breathe because of a hiatal hernia. It caused 10% of my stomach to stick up through my diaphragm. Makes me mad to think about but thankful at the same time that it is now repaired, and I can breathe and exercise again. I would love to try biking too at some point. For now I walk 5-6xs a week for a little over a mile and makes me so happy. Just to be able to do it. I wouldn't worry too much about hydration. You should be fine. Just keep drinking. But not sure how long hours of exercise will affect your appetite? I have little to none now, 7 weeks out. I can only imagine I would become quite ravenous, which could defeat the whole purpose. IDK but good luck! -
What was your "Last Meal" before starting the pre-surgery diet???
BabySpoons replied to Jjohnson1971's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've heard amazing things of people reversing diabetes, sometimes days after surgery. Even before losing the weight. I am prediabetic and hoping for similar results. Doc said he'll run some lab work at my 3 month visit. It's my goal too, to eventually be off all my meds. People can't seem to see past the weight loss aspect of the surgery and how much more it helps in resolving the comorbidities that are slowly killing us. I wish you the best and keep us posted on your progress. Oh and fun thread. Smoked brisket sounds amazing!!!! -
What was your "Last Meal" before starting the pre-surgery diet???
BabySpoons replied to Jjohnson1971's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Spaghetti with tomato-based meat sauce topped with grated parmesan cheese. No bread. I pretty much stuck to my dietician's recommendations for the 3 months before surgery. Even skipping a family Easter dinner. I kept remembering, reading the warning that if I regained weight my surgery would be cancelled. That pretty much kept me on the straight and narrow. -
With the liquid diet is anyone working out or all of this weight loss is due to all liquids?
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I went to my Bariatric doctor a couple of months ago as I had been suffering some weight regain and I was worried about the direction my body was going after having had the sleeve Dec 2018 and then Roux Y Bypass Oct 2020. She put me on Metformin and Phentermine to help counteract the effects of some of my other medication and menopause. I too had been experiencing the worst smelling stools imaginable and felt that I could never travel. The Metformin had the best side effect and turned that around for me and for the first time since having the surgeries, I had normal smelling stools! Game changer!! I have no blood sugar issues and am only taking the Metformin 500 mg twice a day for weight management reasons but it is controlling the smell of my stools! So I had to share as I had too like the rest of you been suffering since 2018 with the same issues up until a couple of months ago....
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The "honeymoon" period
maintenanceman replied to RobertM2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I found that I needed more and more calories to be satiated as the months passed. By 6 mo post-op, I just couldn't maintain a very low calorie diet without becoming ravenously hungry. And, my weight loss progressively slowed down each month until the weight loss petered out at 9 months post-op. I reached my goal weight, losing 100% of my excess weight. I currently eat 1800-2000 calories a day and have maintained my final weight for five months so far. While my hunger has returned, it is nothing like it was pre-op. I feel very much in control of my hunger, and I find it difficult to overeat... even when I want to. And my body generally craves healthier, cleaner foods vs. the garbage fast/junk food that was the staple of my diet pre-op. I suspect the reason people regain is they increasingly indulge in slider foods... crackers, chips, cookies, etc... and start drinking their calories... sugary drinks, alcohol, ice cream and such. I think it would be very hard for me to eat enough "real" food to regain. My restriction is still very present, but it's easy to defeat it by "eating around" my sleeve. -
My hunger came back gradually too into my second year. I had my first experience of real hunger at about 8 months after a busy day when I hadn’t really eaten but not again for months. I still have times when I’m not really hungry or don’t eat all my usual portion & I’m 4 years out now. Because I eat regularly throughout the day I don’t really feel HUNGRY just yep must be time for my meal/snack. Your portion sizes slowly increase as your losing until you get to a point where you are consuming the calories & nutrients your body needs to work effectively & your weight stabilises. It’s then up to you to manage your portions & calories by permanently adopting the changes & things you’ve learnt within your lifestyle (what you need & how you want to live & enjoy your life). I eventually I reached a point where I was I eating about the accepted portion size of the protein, vegetables, fruit, dairy, etc. for my meals & snacks & to get in my daily calorie needs to maintain. It’s plenty of food & I don’t need or want more. I consume about 1500 calories which is appropriate for someone my height, age, weight & activity levels. (Interestingly I consumed about 1300 when I first stabilised & though I eat more now I’ve pretty much maintained my weigh. I presume to do with my body settling & adjusting.) I choose to rarely eat sweet foods or drinks. I don’t eat bread, rice, pasta or potatoes but then they tend to sit heavily so an easy choice. I tend to eat whole or low processed foods most of the time. Do I experience head hunger at times? Yes. But I recognise now that it’s not real hunger.Of course there are times I give in to it but I make better choices - like a few nuts, a little fruit or am trying beef jerky at the moment. It’s funny but I rarely specifically crave salt, sugar or a specific food anymore except sometimes after I eat yoghurt I will crave salt. Don’t know why though. This is how I am. You may be totally different & that’s okay. It comes down to how you manage it.
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Success with Berberine?
Arabesque replied to annamassie's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
Have to admit I’ve never heard of it so looked it up. I did read it said there is no sound scientific evidence of it helping with diabetes & reducing blood sugar, cholesterol, or weight loss though. Your surgery will definitely help with these if they are your concerns anyway. As with all natural remedies, check with your doctor first to ensure there aren’t any negative side effects or drug interaction issues with meds you are on so you can make an informed decision to use it or not. -
How far out from your surgery are you? It’s quite common to feel lethargic, sleepy & have low energy after the surgery while you are healing and at other random times as your body adjusts to changes (weight loss, increased activity, etc.). What you are experiencing may just be part of the process & nothing to do with your vitamins. Listen to your body if it is telling you to rest or nap. (If you’re able of course. Not many bosses appreciate you curling up under your desk at work unfortunately. A little Seinfeld reference 😉) I loved those daily naps & rests I had after my surgery. Wish I could still justify them now.
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COLLEGE students - please help!
vsg2410 replied to goatsarecool's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I commend you for making this decision! One of my doctors first brought up surgery when I was in college. At that point, I knew I wasn’t ready to take my health that seriously. I wanted to have a “normal” college experience. I 100% do not regret waiting until after college to have the surgery since I knew I wasn’t ready. I’m still in my early 20s and it’s a tough life adjustment. My social life lessened a lot early on due to not being able to eat out or drink alcohol. I’d say in terms of college life that would be one of the bigger struggles post op. Also, depending on your dining options at school it can be difficult to track and have good options. At the beginning about the first 2 months it may be difficult to hide from your roommate that you’ve had surgery. The food options are pretty limited and the quantity is very small. But, a lot of college aged students have not struggled with weight yet and have no idea about bariatric surgery so they may never catch on! Also something to keep in mind, most people at my surgery center are out of work for 2 weeks. I know a lot of people say they feel fine after surgery, but it hit me hard and I needed the full 2 weeks off of work. I’ve heard that younger patients can have more side effects from anesthesia and that was definitely the case for me. So I’d definitely recommend at least 2 weeks before move in day. In terms of approaching the conversation with my parents, I told my mom that I had something important to talk to her about and I wanted her to support me in my decision. Later after I had gone through the pre surgical processes and had a date, I told my dad I decided to have surgery to improve my health and gave him the opportunity to ask any questions. Best of luck to you! -
I had my band removed in April 2023 and began to gain weight immediately. I was suddenly able to eat breakfast again, so I did! I am having RNY in June (6 weeks after the band removal), and my surgeon was upfront that the vast majority of patients who have their bands removed will unfortunately regain at least some weight since the stomach is almost back to its pre-band state without restriction.
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For me, hunger came back gradually. At first 800 cal was hard to get to, then it became easier, then 1200 seemed impossible, then it became harder to stay at 1200 calories... Etc. It's natural for our capacity and hunger to expand a little overtime but never close to what it was pre-surgery. The honeymoon period is the best time to reinforce the right way to eat and how to deal with life's problems without food. I think one of the reasons people gain lots of weight later is because they just aren't committed to the life-long changes needed to keep the weight off. Many use life's problems as an excuse to eat around their sleeve, like snacking on slider foods. Some blame the surgery itself when it isn't the surgery but their unwillingness to stay on plan from day one. If you stick to the basic rules of your program, and stay focused you will be successful. Many gain a small amount weight after reaching it's lowest weight, but that is just the body adjusting to get to a healthy weight for you and that is natural too.
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Hi there! Just wanted to gain some perspective. Out of anyone here who had the gastric bypass, can you give me info on your journey? How much weight did you lose in the first month, 3 months, 6 months after surgery? I'm working on getting my clearances so that I can have surgery in late summer. My friend, who just had GB, told me "your new life doesn't start the day of your surgery, but right now, so take care of yourself!" So, I'm trying. But hearing what others have experienced will give me some perspective and I'm big on that kind of thing.
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I lost 25 pounds in 3 months before surgery and your friend is right. Putting off losing weight till surgery date just reminded me of all the excuses I made before. I'll wait till Monday to start or after the holidays.
I'm 8 weeks out from Gastric Bypass and lost another 25. So I'm averaging about 3 pounds a week post-surgery. That's the most I've ever lost consistently over time without regain so I'm happy. Good luck on your journey!
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Struggling… the evil voice is back.
Not sure replied to mcipanda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I limit my simple carbs like bread, rice and pasta to less than 30g day, but don’t limit complex carbs. It is not just about calories in and out, macros play a big part in weight loss. I’m 7 months post op, appetite came back at 5 months but I go by the simple rules of protein, non starchy carbs, and unadultered fruit. I have lost 145lbs and now maintaining my weight at 180lbs. All that being said I track everything going into my body and all energy expenditures to ensure that I’m on track, just my way to ensure I don’t slip. My dietitian has said to live by the 80-20 rule, follow 80% of the time and save 20% for a cheat day, I have been brave enough to try for fear of slipping back to old habits. Best of luck, wishing you all the success to meet your goals. -
Thank you for the reply Spinoza. I'm sort of gathering from your comments and other things I have read that the best hope for success is to use the honeymoon phase to learn and adapt new eating habits...obviously better ones than we all had pre-surgery...and then carry those habits forward for the rest of our lives. I think the crux of my question/concerns is, once the honeymoon phase ends, did you find that your hunger levels returned to pre-surgery levels and that the work and day-to-day stress of just dealing with food/eating/quantity to be as difficult as it was pre-surgery? I've run into quite a few people who have had gastric surgery, lost weight and then regained very large amounts of it back and I am quite perplexed as to how this happens....and I don't mean that in a rude way at all....simply because I would like to avoid that issue/problem. Thanks again to anyone who can share their insight. Robert
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No I only had a final goal weight and to be honest that was purely aspirational - I had no idea whether or when I would reach it! It was a weight I had reached previously by diet and exercise and felt good at. Hunger returned when I had lost approx 100lbs - probably a quarter of that on my long pre-op diet and three quarters in the 9 or 10 months post op. I went on to lose about another 40lbs. But honestly it is so different for different people. That's just how it went for me. Very best of luck to both of you.
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Did you have a goal weight that you got to before your hunger returned, or was it later?
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You're absolutely right - it seems to be very different for different people. I had a gradual return of hunger at around 9 or 10 months. Probably over the course of a couple of weeks. If I ate my protein first I still felt full with around the same size of meal, I just wanted to eat again sooner afterwards. Then on top of that as the months progressed I could eat greater volumes - that continued AND I was hungry too. I learned here that head hunger is often craving a specific food or taste or texture, but real hunger can be addressed by eating most anything. So I started to have fruit and veg for snacks and that seems to have worked for me. My 3 main meals are protein first always. I could have just added another meal, but I had been concerned all along that I wasn't getting anything like the recommended fruit and veg intake. My weight loss had slowed when my hunger returned and I stopped losing more or less completely around 15 months post op. I'm 18 months out now and so far maintaining. Everything crossed.
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Woo hoo! June 6, 2023 is the day. Initially had the lapband through True Results in 2011 (lost 100lb and maintained) then they disappeared! Removed that in Jan 2023 due to an issue unfortunately gained 36 lbs. Now VSG on June 6th, praying this tool and I become best friends and work well together. 😜
