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Getting from band to mini bypass scared.
Losingit2018 replied to bakerboy's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I never had a band. I had sleeve surgery back in March of 2018. I developed gerd and hiatal hernia so had to revise to bypass 9 days ago. Recovery hasn’t been horrible. I am still on liquids for 2 weeks post op. The biggest hurdle I could see to going back to a sedentary type job would be the weakness and lack of energy. I feel at least some of this will get better at my 2 week mark once I am able to eat soft food. I hope that this info helped and good luck! -
Bundle of nerves
Krimsonbutterflies replied to mew003's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm in relief tears, because you understand what I'm feeling. Thank you for answering me in such detail. BP is like a journal entry for me that responds to what I'm expressing. I love having this support system 💜. My actual support system is selectively small, by my personal choice. I'm private and respect other's rights to their privacy as well. I have 2 people in my support group who are Post-op, one had to revise from vsg to rny (major complications after revision this year). I read these posts and truly value everyone sharing their very personal experiences. This is like Cliff Notes for Bariatric Surgery. -
What's *supposed* to happen and what *actually* happens consistently are not necessarily the same. But don't worry because you've got a plan to follow that ensures success 🏆 Try to resist the urge to test the boundaries (for now), resume life as if they are intact and everything works like it should. You'll know for certain down the road anyway. Speedy and Safe recovery from your revision 💚
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Feedback please!! Sleeve verses bypass
RickM replied to Nomorepasta's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Any of these procedures may predispose you to some kind of problem as a result of the anatomical changes that the surgery makes; this doesn't mean that you will have such a problem, just that the problem shows up in more often than in the general population. With the sleeve, the main predisposition is for GERD, as a result of cutting back the stomach volume more than its' acid producing potential - usually the body adapts and adjust things over time, but sometimes it doesn't. I have mild GERD which is well controlled with mild OTC medication; a few get it so severe that no med controls it and they have to get their sleeve revised to correct it, while others - most people - have no problem with it at all. GERD problems may also result from poor surgical technique, and was more common when the sleeve was new to the WLS world 8-10 years ago and most surgeons were still figuring it out (this is why I traveled to a practice that had already been doing them for some twenty years, so avoid this kind of "learning curve" problem. Most surgeons in the US today are experienced enough with it that this isn't much of a problem anymore, but it does seem to show up more in countries that are farther down that learning curve, such as Canada and Australia. People with the bypass will also sometimes develop GERD, though usually more in line with general population numbers, and seems to often be associated with chronic over eating, volumetrically if not calorically.. This may also be why some with the sleeve also develop GERD after some years. The bypass is predisposed to dumping and its close cousin, reactive hypoglycemia, as a result of rapid stomach emptying from the lack of the pyloric valve in the active GI system metering the stomach contents into the intestines. Some people with the sleeve, or even no stomach surgery at all, may dump as well, but it is rare. It is generally controlled with additional dietary restrictions. The bypass is also predisposed to marginal ulcers, typically around the anastomosis between the stomach pouch and intestine. This is a result of the section of intestine being used not being resistant to stomach acid like the duodenum is (the part of intestine immediately downstream of the stomach in the natural anatomy, which is bypassed along with the remnant stomach in the RNY), leaving a very sensitive suture line that is easily irritated. This is why NSAID pain relievers and other similar medications are a big NO-NO with the RNY, but are better tolerated with the sleeve based procedures; one still needs to be cautious with them, but they are more usable with a sleeve than a bypass. For the benefit of the OP, with no prior GERD history, but a history of orthopedic problems, I would be inclined to go with the sleeve, owing to its better tolerance for the various pain relievers that you are inclined to need at different times. Good luck - none of this is easy, as it is often a matter of trade offs, and sometimes it's less a matter of good vs. bad as it is bad vs. less bad, or bad vs. not-great. -
I spend time in nature every day. I will start doing meditation each day, I have the "Calm" app on my phone. 1. My personal goal is to get into an exercise routine, I love yoga! 2. I had a revision from a Vertical Banded Gastroplasty to a RYN. 3. My weight has stalled at 186 and my BMI is 30 4. My favorite winter activity used to be baking breads and cookies, guess I will find something to replace it!
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So im almost a week out of having Sleeve to SADI revision. Everything is great. Was out of hospital the next day and am up and about, walking, shopping and generally doing the "norm", just taking it easy. Technically, I'm supposed to be on stage one post op diet, but have managed to tolerate soft foods (scrambled egg with mashed beans, thick soups, flaked fish and mash etc). I know i shouldnt be eating this yet but my surgeon told me that since the sleeve to SADI didnt involve touching the stomach, i didnt need to be "TOO" concerned about following the post op diet and just be careful. I was just wondering if anyone else here has had this op and how it has affected them. Before the op (even post sleeve) i was eating 5/6 bags of crisps, chocolate, nuts, fizzy drinks etc and it had no "sleeve" effects on me whatsoever, other than putting weight on, i was feeling no effect from the sleeve. Since the op, ive tried "testing" the SADI, by having a small (one square) of chocolate or one crisp etc to see if i'd end up dumping or on the loo....... nothing. Today, whilst out, my son bought some "chip shop style" chips. Instinctively, i took a couple and munched on them without thinking. Again....... nothing. no feeling sick, no needing to run to the toilet etc, and im worried that even though im changing my diet massively post op, i'll be able to tolerate the same foods as before, which is something i didnt want to be able to do. Any advice? And please dont just say 'dont eat chips'. Im looking for people who have constructive comments. Thanks Carl.
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My blinds are open when I wake up but it is 400 in the morning so there is nothing to see. The sunshine won't be around for three hours. Luckily the windows of my job site open on the east and we see the sunrise every morning. 1. My personal goal is to get down to 150 and stay there. 2. I am having RNY to SADI revision. I am pre op. My operation is on Wednesday the 5th. 3. my weight is 246 Lbs. 4. My favorite winter activity is piling on the blankets or standing in front of the heater with a kitty cat by my side.
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large weight gain after lapband removal
mcfluffington replied to catlyn's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I had a weight regain of 75 lbs. I have lost 25 labs through changing the amount I eat and getting back on track. I only ate 4 times a day. Mind you I have a gastric bypass so I have some restricition but you can always eat around that. Then I joined Jenny Craig and Noom. I lost about 5 lbs on those In about three months. My weight loss was in no way dramatic. It was a steady 1 lb a month. That is right 1 lb a month. Like rolling a boulder up hill but getting it done. I have to say the most drastic weight loss has come through my pre-op diet. I lost 4 lbs in 5 days on mostly protein shakes and some Jenny Craig meals. I am having revision surgery RNY to SADI to lose the rest and then some. I hope. Fingers crossed. -
Can't handle protein shakes
Losingit2018 replied to bigdaddyff's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am going through the same. Was fine with shakes with my sleeve but can’t handle them after my revision to bypass. I use fairlife milk (13 gma protein) unjury chicken broth (21 gma protein) and bone broth (10 grams protein) to get my protein in. Hang in there and good luck. -
Feedback please!! Sleeve verses bypass
Losingit2018 replied to Nomorepasta's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I had both surgeries. Sleeve back in 2018 and revision last week. I got sick when I ate anything rich and sweet with my sleeve. So, having a sleeve will not necessarily keep you from getting something close to dumping syndrome. Good luck with your decision! -
3 Days Post-op and regretting this
Losingit2018 replied to JPapenberg's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It is more important to get your fluids than your protein at this point. Try a different brand of shake. You can also get fairlife milk from grocery store and drink it instead of shakes if you just can’t tolerate them. I had no problem with the premier protein shakes pre op. Had my revision to rny last Friday and I am not able to keep premier protein down at all. I switched to syntrax and fairlife milk. Another thing is to make sure you are just slowly sipping your shakes. Like one ounce in 15 minutes or so. Go too fast and they will come back up due to lack of anywhere to go once your pouch is full. Hang in there and keep us posted. -
So sorry for your experience. I can only imagine how hard it is to deal with all of that. Mine was ok. I was 6 days out rny revision and hernia repair. I went to son and daughter in laws. Ate my jello while everyone else ate. I was ok with it and did enjoy the company.
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Lapband surgery vs sleeve recovery pain
LeeAnnfromNC replied to mememomma's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I also had my revision from lapband to sleeve on October 9th . Band was put in place in April of 2012 and removed July 31, 2019. Sleeved on Oct 9, 2019. I love my sleeve. None of the procedures was particularly painful. I expected the sleeve to be more painful but it really wasn't. I think the worst of the three was having the lap band removed, at the incision site where the band came out. -
So, I am not exactly sure where to start so I guess I will just go with the beginning: I was sleeved on 2/15/16 starting weight at 243 by 10/1/16 I had lost 98.8 lbs weighing in at 144.2lbs. 10/10/16, I found out I was pregnant. I had a textbook pregnancy, perfect strong baby boy was born on 6/13/17. I had only gained 30 lbs during my pregnancy. (Please I beat myself up enough, my son was not planned, I was told I wouldn’t be able to have kids but by the grace of God he is here) jump to today. I have gained a total of 55 lbs and hovering at 200. I’ve found myself eating more. And not sure what to do.. I also moved to a different state. Anyway, obviously I failed. I’m not sure how to get back on the right foot. Do I go see a general doctor? Should I just get to a Bariatric specialist? For those who had a revision, how did you go about figuring that out? I’m hoping I don’t have to get one, and I can work on this. But I want to do it the right way. Positive feed back please and thank you!!!
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Feedback please!! Sleeve verses bypass
Nomorepasta posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Hi all!! (SLEEVE OR BYPASS).... running out of time! I am scheduled to go in for my sleeve this Weds. I have been learning and reading so much and now I feel that perhaps a bypass might be a better choice for me. My fear is that I might develop bad reflux in the future and would need a revision to a gastric bypass. I don’t have any symptoms of that now, however I have read so many posts from people that have had this happen. My Dr is basically saying it’s my decision. I have fears that I will make the wrong choice..... Any advice would b much appreciated!!! -
Revision surgery in four days.
mcfluffington replied to Myap's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I too am having a revision due to weight regain. My problem wasn't emotional it was situational. I was taking care of my mom and living in her tiny apartment sleeping with with my head six feet from bread and cookies. I have a tremendously hard time resisting food (maybe emotional, maybe an addiction or compulsion) that is right in front of me which is why I don't keep it in my house. I thought I was only going to be there for a week or two but it turned out to be a year while I looked for a situation where I could be near my Mom full time and not live next to her food. In the interim, I gained 75 lbs. OUCH! I lost 25 of it on my own but it took two and half years. I applaud all your hard work and wish you the best! Good luck with your surgery! -
I am getting a revision and I was approved first thing. I am in complete shock about it. I thought for sure I would have to fight for it. But the revision that my surgeon doing has now become part of the standard of care for bariatric surgeons.
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Bypass or Duodenal Switch or SIPS
mcfluffington replied to mountaingirlCO's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hey mountaingirl! I am a RNY patient looking for a revision due to weight regain. I have decided on SADI. I think that is the same thing as the SIPS. It is the option that my doctor recommends and I have read some research that it is a better option for RNY patients because it has proven to give better initial weightloss. Bypass does give you restriction but you can eat your way out of it. I think in your situation any of these options would be a good call accept I believe the DS requires more vigilant attention to vitamins and supplements. I found it hard to find revision patients on forums who could give me much information. I suggest you do some research on the web and maybe at a college library on the revision surgeries. Good Luck! -
I really think that a lot of these post op books are just never updated. I had sleeve surgery plus just revised to bypass. I talked to my surgeon both times about the leak test. I was told both times that I would be thoroughly tested during surgery and that there was no need for the other leak test. I never had a second test either.
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Lapband surgery vs sleeve recovery pain
agwill replied to mememomma's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
How did your revision go? I’m going from band to sleeve on December 2. Anxiety is a little high just not sure what to expect. -
Bypass or Duodenal Switch or SIPS
mountaingirlCO posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I’m currently going through the process for a sleeve revision (tests, insurance clearance,etc.). Originally I was thinking duodenal switch (DS) or SIPS/DS loop but now I’m also looking into the possibility of a revision to bypass. I lost the majority of my weight with the band in 2010, revised to sleeve due to band slip in 2014 but never felt any restriction with the sleeve, and now have gained back almost half of my original loss following a hysterectomy about 2 years ago. I think I will likely be able to lose at least some if not all of my excess weight with any of these revision options but am most concerned about keeping the weight off long term. Any recommendations based on your own revision experiences would be greatly appreciated. Every time I think I’ve made a decision on the right path forward I start to reconsider again and need to make a decision soon. Thank you!- 2 replies
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If you go to the revision section of this website, you will see a whole lot of us with the same problem. Yes, I just had my band taken out last week and sleeve done. I am so happy. It's something to think about. Good luck with making a decision.
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Good morning everyone, Somehow I missed this forum when I first joined. I posted in the pre-surgery Q & A and felt like a loner, but I included the post on my profile too. I am scheduled for a gastric sleeve revision on December 2, 2019. Someone asked why I did not choose to a have a bypass the second time and the reason is that I have a form of anemia that make the bypass too dangerous to manage. The irony is not only was my last surgery December 3, 2013, I am at the exact pre-surgery weight I was back then. I had quick early success and dropped 80 pounds in the first three months. That was both scary and exciting and I had this fairy tale belief that I could eat very small amount of my favorite foods and still be successful. Not to mention, I was drinking tequila probably every other Friday night. I do not have those misconceptions and gave up most of my vices - coffee with splenda is the last vestige to go...as a sheepishly sip my last cup. My weight crept up drastically between 2015-2016 as I battled depression and suicide attempts, not specifically because of my weight. In 2017, I started thinking about having surgery again, but it would be another year before I was even emotionally stable enough to have a real conversation about it. I knew in 2017 I would not get back on that table until I was ready to change my life, not just my weight. I languished a bit in the last couple of months after finishing my preoperative testing. I still had not made my an appointment for my final surgery review and scheduling a date. Although I am more spiritual than religious, I asked God to give me a sign of what the right was for me. Well, my answer came when I fell out of the shower (can't believe I said hospital before) and had no choice but to struggle to get off the floor. My knees hurt terribly when I finally got to them and in that moment I thought 'I am 46 and there is no reason I should not be able to get off the floor.' I made it up off the floor, went to the ER to make sure I did not have any new broken bones, and scheduled my appointment the next day. When I finally had a surgery date three weeks ago, I felt empowered and excited for the first time. I have traveled down this road before and I know the hard work begins after Monday. I have stumbled a bit this week, but I am ready. Mya
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Hi guys- This is a long rambling post because I wanted to journal my story, so if it's of no interest to you you won't hurt my feelings!😁 I just got a lab band to RNY revision a week ago. I've an old band that was making me vomit quite often, and even though the xrays show the band to be perfect the surgeon said it still had to come out. I was lucky that he only requires a three day liquid diet since that was tough. When they admitted my the morning of my surgery the nurses asked if I was suicidal and I told them that it wasn't a good time to ask me that. When I got my band the nurses in the recovery room saw me groping my stomach after I awoke, and they asked me what was wrong. I told them I was sure that they had put me to sleep and then found something wrong and woke me right back up so I was checking for bandages. Nothing hurt-there wasn't any gas pain. This time I awoke in the recovery room to hear a woman moaning piteously and it took me a second to realize it was me. This hurt WAAAAY more than I expected. But the nurses immediately gave me a painkiller and that helped a lot. Part of the problem was when the surgeon actually got inside me, he found not only had my band slipped, but I had a hiatal hernia to repair also. Surprise! That added to the excessive pain. Then they get you back to your room and the drinking game commences. They line this little cups in front of you like shots at a bar and expect you to sip them down. This is while you have raging chest and neck pain from the gas and just want to sleep. The nurses where nice and not giving me a hard time about my lack of effort, but I sipped at a less than stellar rate. What I DID rule at was the walking. The first time they made a nurse walk with me but after that I was free to go as I chose. I walked long and fast (as I could, dragging an IV pole with me..) lapping other walkers in the hall. I wanted these gas pains gone!! So I walked and walked--even at 4 in the morning. And after lapping one lady twice she hailed me to slow down and walk with her. Her surgery had been two days ago, and she was astounded that mine had been less than 14 hours ago. But then back in my room all I wanted to do was sleep. They kept waking my up for vital signs, and even though I only had a small touch of the diabetes they kept doing the fingerstick blood sugars. But they didn't really hurt so I didn't mind. What I hated was they kept giving me all sorts of pills to take. Choking down a pill on a sip of water with raging neck pain was not fun. And my BP was only slightly elevated, actually normal for me, but most of those pills were for HBP. The next morning I got up to take a walk and then broke out into a cold sweat and felt faint and nauseated, so I rang for a nurse. They took my BP and found it as 90/50. So at least I didn't have to take those pills for a while. I'm glad my surgeon said I could stay two nights. I couldn't have left after the first night if they'd have kicked me out. But I was being able to drink an ounce of fluid in an hour finally. I was proud of that until they came back into the room and said "now we want you to drink 4 ounces an hour. By the next day I think I only accomplished this feat once, but they agreed to discharge me late the second day. Here's where it got interesting. I live 5 hours away from where my surgery was. One of the disadvantages of living in a rural area. My husband isn't in good health and we have three dogs, so he stayed behind while I took Amtrak to get to the hospital. After they discharged me I thought (correctly) that riding the train back the same day could be bad, so I laid up in a hotel 1/2 from the hospital until I went back the next day. I didn't want something to spring a leak while I was on a train. I should have known it was going to be a tough trip when the Uber dropped me off, and the Metro station was closed! Luckily there was a free shuttle to the next station down the line. I got on the train, and for the first time in my 20+ train trips, the dang thing lurches to a stop where they find a problem. So we were delayed 4 hours on a already 5 hour tip. At least we didn't have to switch trains--they brought a new engine to us. So my advice is if you can get surgery closer to home, do it. Of course it could have been worse--I understand many self-pay people have to go out of the country. I should consider myself lucky that it was only 5 hours away. I had the terrible "buyers remorse" that you read about here but think it won't happen to you. But in only lasted about 3 days and I turned the corner about two days ago when miraculously I could drink down amounts more than I could before. It's still not 64 ounces, but much better than it was. So I think I've lost the "buyers remorse", especially since I weighted for the first time and I'm already down 10 pounds... So read this, if you wish, and for all the griping I did here, it was worse than I expected but that feeling only lasted about 4 or 5 days. So if your considering WLS go for it, but don't have unrealistic expectations, prepare for the worst and you'll be happy if it isn't that bad! And hang in there if you are recovering..it WILL get better, I promise!
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Lap band revision- how long did you wait?
JRT Mom replied to Byrd0315's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had two barium swallow tests that showed my band was in perfect position, but I was still tossing up most of what I ate, so my surgeon said I had to get it removed, and he would do an RNY in the same surgery. He likes to do it in one surgery if he can...less cost and one less chance for anaesthesia complications. He thinks the bypass is actually better to do than the sleeve on a one-surgery revision. Well, he got in there, and my band HAD slipped, and on top of that I had a hiatal hernia! When he cam to see me after the procedure I asked him why everything looked good on the xrays, he said it's not uncommon for slips and hernias not to show up on the xrays.