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When did you start drinking liquor post op ?
Danpaul replied to Cheesekitty7's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Two ppl I know who had WLS waited about a year to drink alcohol. I myself, never drank. Sad to say the beers and cocktails kept piling on over the course of the following year and before you know it one gained 22lbs the other 20lbs. That's only after one year of going back to alcohol. Like many they thought they could enjoy an occasional brewski. Sadly not the case. I have found through my group sessions this happens quite often. -
I’m going to be 50 in Oct. My surgery was almost a month ago now and I lost 15lbs starting from my week before surgery. I’m a little concerned about that. Thought I would have lost more by now. When I was younger, weight came off relatively quickly but I also have hypothyroidism and don’t seem to have a metabolism anymore lol. I’m starting to walk more now so I am giving myself some time before I really start to think I never should have done this. That I failed yet again. I am hungry but it’s a different hunger if that makes sense. I eat a few bites every couple of hours or so, vitamins and supplements as I should. Trying to stay positive and hydrated lol.
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yep. ive been gaining and losing the same 5-ish lbs for 4 years. like the others above, i always keep an eye on it. if i stay outside that range for too long (how long exactly depends on my mood, what im doing at the time - am i on vacation? am i sick? is it the holiday season? etc..), then i make conscious efforts to get back into my happy range. its said on here alot: its easier and less overwhelming to try lose 5-10lbs than to try to lose 50. With that said, sometimes we also have to weigh the desire to be a certain weight vs the willingness to put in efforts required to achieve and maintain it. I mean, sure weighing less than 115 lbs was a very accomplishing feeling for me (i was walking around like i was all that and a bag of chips) and i really liked how my body looked (but not my face, but thats a different story), BUT..i realized i was putting in waaaay more effort than i really wanted to. now (4.5+ yrs post) i put in just a small fraction of the effort and time and brain/thinking power i used to, in exchange for being at peace with staying under 125. i am much more relaxed, thats for sure. plus i still think i look pretty good, lol. I feel like i went off on a tangent there... Can people lose regain? Yes. Do u want to? That's up to you. Good Luck! ❤️
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Bariatric surgery - long term
vpsdub replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thanks for your replies, very helpful, much appreciated! Here are my main concerns with surgery, just trying to achieve risk/benefit balance: 1) anesthesia - recently had minor dental surgery with local anesthesia (tooth extraction), for 3 days afterwards had more frequent than usual shortness of breath and chest tightness. Bariatric anesthesia will be much heavier - it would be good to hear from someone 60+ with pre-surgery cardio vascular issues 2) my friend post-surgery has to take loads of supplements and vitamins as necessary nutrients not absorbed properly after surgery causing fatigue. Also other surgeries might be needed - to fix stricture, excessive skin etc. It seems like a lot of risk taking into account my heart issues. Are supplements for life? Would prefer natural nutrients as any chemical/medication has side effects Another question - would appreciate views/experiences on non surgical ways. Tried diets - lost weight and gained back. Heard about microbiom changes, faecal transplanting - any experience of those? Thanks again -
Bariatric surgery - long term
Arabesque replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I had my sleeve four years ago at almost 54 so a little younger & also female. Also no diabetes or other co morbidities. I lost all my weight & more & have basically kept it off (apart from a slight hiccup with a medication absorption issue). My fluctuation weight initially was 48.5-49.5kg & is now about 49.5-50.1kgs - maybe my weight settling. I am careful with what & how much I eat. Which you would be already doing a lot with managing your diabetes. I mostly eat whole foods that are low or no processed. I’m not really active: just stretches & resistance bands - wouldn’t burn 30 calories. The changes I made to what & how I eat were sustainable & easy to manage. I don’t feel like I’m missing out or making sacrifices to maintain my weight. I also feel my choices aren’t negatively impacting how I want to live & enjoy my life. If the opposite was true & I felt I was missing out or couldn’t enjoy my life I would not be able to maintain & would have been gaining weight . But yes things do happen in life that throw a lot of that out the window: personal & professional stress, emotional traumas, health issues, etc. Our weight can resettle into its new set point (where it’s most happy) which is higher. Our initial way of eating may have been too restrictive & unsustainable to maintain a lower weight. Or we simply become a little complacent. I didn’t have any complications or issues post surgery but my tummy can be a bit fussy - quirky - & I have random episodes of the foamies for often unknown reasons. There are certain foods I can’t eat (like breads, pasta & rice sit heavily in my tummy) but it doesn’t bother me. There were foods I couldn’t tolerate before surgery or avoided because my tummy was always a bit fussy, had some sensitivities & to manage my reflux. So no big change really. -
Cravings am I over eating
Arabesque replied to Quetta89's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Check with your dietician for meal ideas & guidelines about portion sizes, calories, nutrient goals, number of meals a day, etc. Then measure, weigh & track your food every meal & then make the necessary changes. If you are eating too many calories, swap out your food choices to more nutrient dense foods & foods that are lower in fats, sugars & carbs. Look to whole & low or no processed foods. If your portions are too large, reduce the sizes. Make sure you’re hitting your protein & fluid goals every day. It will always be better to eat real food than have a protein shake once your through those initial stages post surgery. I didn’t have another shake after the liquid stage. I know some people do continue to have shakes but I’m a believer in learning & establishing new & life time eating habits & food choices that work in your lifestyle as soon as possible. Shakes aren’t really sustainable in the long term & can feel like you are restricting or limiting yourself. I believe people put on weight after being on a shake diet because they relied on the shakes & didn’t learn how to make better food choices or change their eating behaviours. Fluctuations while you are losing are to be expected. Your weight loss isn’t a consistent straight line down. It will go & down & plateau. As long as the general trend is downwards you’re okay. -
Thank you all for your responses!! Revision is done and I gained a bit of weight between the IV liquids and gas and swelling. Since coming home I am down 10lbs so that’s going away. When I had the sleeve I was 268 and went down to 145. I looked gaunt it was horrible. I need to stay in the 150-160 range to avoid looking like I’m malnourished. The hiatal hernia I had was repaired and I have zero signs of any reflux. The pain hasn’t been bad it’s been 5 days since surgery and I feel great. I was released at 194 and am at 183. Of course that’s loss of all the fluid and swelling I am grateful for that. In reality 30-35 lbs more would be a perfect goal. However something is telling me it’ll be more. I always stick with the plan follow the dietary guidelines and do well. Fingers crossed I can gain some control of the weight loss and not lose too much! Ty again you guys are great good luck on your journey
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Bad taste in mouth/disgusted with good?
Arabesque replied to destructapie's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
As @ms.sss said just ride it out. It’s not for ever - thank goodness. Though you want ketosis to occur because it’s tied to your weight loss especially in the beginning. The taste & smell changes are temporary but a great opportunity to break cravings & try new foods/flavours. For the unpleasant body odours, pack a toiletry bag with toothbrush & paste, mouthwash, body wipes, deodorant, pantry liners, etc. so you can refresh at work, when out & about or socialising as you need. -
This might be your new set point too @Danpaul as @catwoman7 mentioned. That is the weight your body is happiest at. The surgery resets that happy place weight from what it was before surgery. It’s always harder to lose & maintain below that weight & if you do lose some of it your body will more easily/quickly return to the weight it prefers. It can also be easy to reset it to a higher level again through food choices & overeating. I think, for us, vigilance will always be needed to varying degrees. As you said we know the consequences of not working at maintaining our weight. I watch what I eat every day & make choices about what I will or won’t eat. It’s a lot easier to do & not as restrictive as I expected & as it was when watching what I ate while trying to lose or maintain before surgery. That is a huge bonus.
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Bariatric surgery - long term
catwoman7 replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I had surgery eight years ago at age 55. No diabetes, though - just obesity. SUPER obesity. Also, borderline sleep apnea that I didn't know about until I did a sleep test for surgery. I lost 235 lbs and gained back about 20 lbs in year 3 post op (a 10-20 lb rebound weight gain after you hit your lowest weight is very common). Maintained ever since, but it's work. On the other hand, before I had surgery, the most I could lose was about 50-60 lbs, and every ounce of it would come back. Happened dozens of times. So yes - weight loss is sustainable after bariatric surgery as long as you monitor yourself. I had strictures at two months out and four months out. Very easy fix. The PA at our bariatric clinic told me it was the most common complication, and that they happen to 5% of gastric bypass patients (and if they're going to happen, it'll be during the first three months post-surgery - they're very rare after that). I personally wouldn't call something that happens to 5% of people "common", but that does give you an idea of how common complications are. Basically - they're not very common. about 30% of bypass patients have dumping syndrome. I've never had it and most of the people I know haven't had it, but some of us do. It's caused by eating too much sugar at one sitting (or for some, too much fat at one sitting seems to set it off). It's because food passes through to your small intestine much more quickly once you've had bypass, and your intestines go into overdrive trying to deal with the sugar (or...fat). It can be prevented by limiting the amount of sugar you eat at one sitting (which we should be doing regardless, even us non-dumpers). good luck in your decision. Honestly, I should have done it years ago. My only regret is that I waited that long to have it done. My life has changed dramatically for the good. I'd go back and have the surgery done every year if I had to - it's been terrific! -
Too close to the ER today (long post)
ms.sss replied to BypassTheBS's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Confession. My team said could drink alcohol after a year. Me being me, i had a couple sips of red wine around 3-4 weeks post op. Was really weird, i swear i could FEEL the wine travelling through my intestines. Then I had a couple sips or a sake-soju concoction around 2 months post. The aftermath still ranks to this day as one of my top 5 dumping episodes. *shudder* I had maybe 5 or so PARTIAL drinks of red wine or gin/vodka tonics throughout my entire weight loss phase. Long story short, I was "affected" really fast. I also sobered up unbelievably quickly. Now in maintenance (im over 4.5 years post op), im NOT proud to admit that i am probably (on paper), a full on alcoholic. i probably drink about 1-2 servings of alcohol a day (espresso martinis or red wine, mostly). I used to drink pre-wls, but nowhere as regularly as i do now. On the flip side, i would reach "embarrassing drunk" pre-wls, but have yet to get there post-wls. Yes, I realize i am justifying, but there u go. As i write this, im wary of newbies reading this, as i really dont want to seem to be endorsing my lifestyle. So sorry everyone! I guess what im ineffectively trying to say is (again) everyone is different, and it is my fervent hope that everyone knows their own personal limits and strives to stay within them. P.S. dont drink too much if u can help it! honestly its not worth the extra stress. I have way too many conversations with myself about this that its ruining my VIBE. P.S.S. i will now remunerate for the next couple hours if this post was a good idea or not. P.S.S. Happy Father's day today to all awesome dads our there!! ❤️ -
What sort of "good problems" you had after WLS
BigSue replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I recently went clothes shopping at an actual mall for the first time in years, and I felt lost, disoriented, and completely out of place, like an alien trying to pass for human. Since I started losing weight, I've mainly been buying clothes from Amazon, Old Navy, and Walmart because I had no idea what to buy and don't want to spend too much on clothes, but I've been maintaining for a couple of years and feel like it's time to upgrade my wardrobe a bit. For one thing, now that I am not plus-sized, the options are overwhelming. I used to be limited to Lane Bryant and Torrid, but now I can shop almost anywhere and have no idea where to start. I felt like an imposter, shopping in stores that, 3 years ago, didn't have anything in my size. What 40-something professional lady has never shopped at Ann Taylor? (Answer: one who had to lose 100+ pounds to fit into any of their clothes.) I've heard of "vanity sizing" and now I've experienced it. In Amazon/Old Navy/Walmart clothes, large or 10-12 usually fits, but in more upscale stores, medium or 8 is on the roomy side. I found a shirt I liked in Eddie Bauer and medium was too big. I was afraid they would laugh in my face when I asked for a small (like, "LOL, can you believe this fat lady thinks she needs a small?!"). They didn't have any smalls left except the one the mannequin was wearing, so I bought that one. I can't believe I wear the same size as the mannequin! At Loft, I was looking in the large section of the clearance rack, and the salesperson looked at me like I was crazy and pointed me toward the small/medium section -- even offered to look for an XS in a sweater I was eying. -
Good afternoon Have diabetes 2 and obesity for many years, now endocrinologist consultant recommends bariatric surgery, most likely Gastric bypass. Since 2015 keeping balanced diet and portion control, doing walking, swimming, lost 20kg in 2018-2020 but unfortunately not much weight loss recently. It would be interesting to hear from people of similar age and health profile who had bariatric surgery 4-5 years ago - is weight loss sustainable in long term? Any side effects - short and long term? Male in early 60s with sleep apnea and high blood pressure. BMI 49. Angiogram found no cardiac blockages but chest tightness happens often especially in warm humid weather. Physical activity is mainly walking, average 5-6 K steps daily, also swimming, outdoor stretching and breathing exercises Thanks
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What sort of "good problems" you had after WLS
Danpaul replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm a reverse clothes horse. Prior to surgery I bought a lot of clothes because my weight fluctuated so much ( not downward either) After surgery I realized how many clothes I had and when I finally went from a XL to med I only bough a few items for the different seasons. I have been wearing the same clothes since 2018, since they still fit me well. -
I had surgery in 2017 . In the summer of 2022 I gained 10 pounds which I have not been able to lose despite going to the gym and watching what I eat. It concerns me to no end. In 1996 I lost a great amount of weight only to have it creep up on me. By 2000 I gained everything back and then some. I tell everyone to not make excuses for weight creep. Fight it because it will over take you very very fast. It happened to me once and I'm fighting it each and every day. I know the consequences of not fighting it.
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Hey y'all I haven't posted in a while but I need y'all. I feel like I'm over eating. I've been eating 4 small meals a day but I stay active. I walk at least 3 miles a day and I exercise twice a day morning and before bed and my weight seems to be going up but now it goes back down. I'm sticking to my diet but my calorie intake may not be good. I need advice please help. Sent from my moto g power (2022) using BariatricPal mobile app
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I'm not sure how much you (or whomever) regained, but it's very common for us to gain 10-20 lbs in year 3. It's a rebound - and most clinics wouldn't even count that as a true regain - it's more your body settling in to its new set point. Above and beyond that, yes, it would be a regain. Some people lose it, but it's a challenge (and it would be regardless - the closer you are to a normal BMI, the harder it is to lose weight - and that's everyone - not just people who've had bariatric surgery). I'm on a forum with several long-time bariatric patients (some of us many years out), and most of us have struggled with regain - and losing it again. It can be done, but it's a challenge.
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I’m going to presume it’s your natural fluctuation. We all have a fluctuation at round which our weight bounces. It’s affected by things like hormones, fluid retention, constipation, what we eat or drink one day compared to the next, etc. Because you’re more focussed on your weight you notice the fluctuation more. Mine is about a kilo (2.2 pounds) but we all have our own. As long I basically stay within that range I’m happy.
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I'm getting so frustrated, 7 months out and almost 2 months stalled
Arabesque replied to SuziDavis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I eat more now than I did when I first stabilised. Then I ate about 1300 calories & did for about a year. I eat about 1500 now & have been pretty consistent at my weight (since we sorted out my HRT malabsorption issue) at about a kilogram more. Before surgery I could barely lose a kilo eating 900 calories so I love that the surgery boosted my metabolism. As most know I don’t ‘exercise’. Just stretches, use resistance bands & try to be more active in my everyday life. I did sit-ups for a while but had to give them up because of a retinal issue. Honestly even when I was doing 100 sit ups a day I was barely burning 30 calories so even less now. According to one of those online calculators my BMR requires an intake of about 1500 calories for someone my age, height, weight & activity level. I only discovered that a few months back & some time after I settled at my current calorie intake so the calculator was pretty much on the mark. It would be higher of course if I was younger, taller, weighed more &/or was more active & other factors too. As @ms.sss said it really does depend on the person. You just have to find out what works & is best for you. I also don’t count calories or weigh my food every day just do random checks to keep myself honest. And I haven’t had skin removal either. -
May 2023 surgeries
CarolineLittle replied to WVJess2Less's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I weighed in this morning and am down another 2.3 kilograms (5 pounds). In pounds it puts me under 300. Pretty much a quarter of the way to my first weight loss goal now. Hope everyone's having a great day. -
I didn't get to my goal weight gained 3 kg and I tend to bounce around that 3 kg
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JUNE SURGERY BUDDIES
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Mira88's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So here we are again lol My revision from sleeve to bypass is on the 28th, and my pre-op diet (all liquids) starts on the 22nd. The first 3 days are ALWAYS the worst. Day 4 isn't too bad, and days 5-7 aren't bad at all. Those are actually pretty easy. But getting through the first 3 days...omg. That's the really hard part lol Not excited in the least about that. BUT...I'm beyond excited to get the revision and get back to my life. I miss being pain free. I miss working out (weight training, cardio, strength/core training). I miss bike riding and taking long walks. I'm so ready to get my GERD, gastritis, and esophagitis under control (GONE!! ) so I can finally hit my goal weight and move on with my life. At least this time I know what I do and don't like and am stocked up on the drinks and shakes and broths that I enjoy. Trying to figure it out the first time around really sucked lol -
Pre-op diet for revision starts on the 22nd!!
SleeveToBypass2023 posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So here we are again lol My revision from sleeve to bypass is on the 28th, and my pre-op diet (all liquids) starts on the 22nd. The first 3 days are ALWAYS the worst. Day 4 isn't too bad, and days 5-7 aren't bad at all. Those are actually pretty easy. But getting through the first 3 days...omg. That's the really hard part lol Not excited in the least about that. BUT...I'm beyond excited to get the revision and get back to my life. I miss being pain free. I miss working out (weight training, cardio, strength/core training). I miss bike riding and taking long walks. I'm so ready to get my GERD, gastritis, and esophagitis under control (GONE!! ) so I can finally hit my goal weight and move on with my life. At least this time I know what I do and don't like and am stocked up on the drinks and shakes and broths that I enjoy. Trying to figure it out the first time around really sucked lol -
Struggling… the evil voice is back.
ms.sss replied to mcipanda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Re: addictions i can’t say I’m well versed enough on this topic to dole out advice and offer solutions. But I can give support and personal anecdotes. Case in point: (While not about eating and food, I still think this has some sort of relevance) I had my first cigarette when was 15 yrs old. I worked my way up to a pack a day by the time I got to university (19 yrs old). Did this for TWENTY YEARS. Finally, I quit cold turkey in July 2011 when I was 38 yrs old. I was golden. I didn’t touch a cigarette for 8+ years. Not a single one. Then, in 2019, high off my success in weight loss probably, armed with an uncontainable confidence, I decided to have a cigarette while on vacation. Cuz i mean, can one really hurt? I could stop, obviously did before. Plus I’m on vacation, gotta live a little, right? I wasn’t even craving it, I just thought it would be no harm no foul since I had absolutely no intention to be a regular smoker again. I remember my husband tried his best to dissuade me. Le Sigh. That cigarette led to another, then another, then me buying a pack saying “I’ll only smoke on this trip”. Then I got back home and I still had some in the pack, so I said I’ll just finish these. Then I bought a pack at home, then another, then another…. Le Double Sigh. It is now 2023, 4 yrs since I stupidly smoked that effing cigarette, and I’m back to smoking almost a pack a day. Sometimes abstinence/the all-or-nothing approach is best for some people. I am not that type of person who could just have one cigarette and leave it at that. Should’ve known. What works for one person, may not have the same result with another. Do what works for you, people. ❤️ -
I'm getting so frustrated, 7 months out and almost 2 months stalled
ms.sss replied to SuziDavis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It really does depend on the person. We are all built differently and have different metabolisms. Some need 1000 cals to maintain, others need 2500+. I am 5’2”, 50 yr old female and I weighed 118.6 lbs this morning. I can totally maintain this weight at 1800 cals a day. I only do dedicated exercise about 1-3 times a week for about 30-45min. Been like this for the past 2+ years, and have pretty much stayed within the 115-120 lbs range the whole time. When I was exercising daily back in the day, I could easily pack in 2300+ cals a day. im 4.5+ years out. p.s. I also had skin removal at about a year post op, but that only removed 400g off the scale 🤷🏻♀️
