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Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Arabesque replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Focus on eating your protein first then allowed vegetables. There were times I’d eat my protein only & nothing else for a meal. Many do continue to supplement their diet with protein shakes or add protein powders to their coffee, soups, yoghurt, etc. I found the shakes awful so I found a good high protein yoghurt & yoghurt drink (you can make your own drink by blending yoghurt & milk). And as a bonus more fluid (not the yoghurt of course). Don’t worry if you don’t hit that protein goal at first or every day. It’s not easy when our portions are so small in the early stages. As long as you’re close & making an effort. Remember you are taking multivitamins too at the moment which help you get the vitamins & minerals in you need. You should be having regular blood tests which will highlight if you are low in anything. I was a low calorie person (only got to about 900 at 6 months & my goal) - wasn’t hungry & couldn't eat more. But do check with your dietician as we all have different needs & the change as we continue to lose. PS - Stalls are common & part of the process. Just keep to your plan & ride through it. It will break. They often last 1-3 weeks with the first starting around week 3+/- so you’re right on track. -
ANy book recommendations for stage 4 eating plans?
Arabesque replied to Sigh's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Keep things simple to begin. The old meat & three veg works well & is easy to prep. Focus on eating your correct portion of protein first & then a few well cooked vegetables as @Spinoza suggested but would add only then eat any allowed carbs if you are able. There were often times I’d only eat the protein content of a meal in the beginning. You may find some meats too heavy to begin. Some struggle with chicken breast or steak. Keep meats moist with sauces & gravies or cooking styles (like grilling can make meat too dry). Once you feel more comfortable & your tummy is happier you can be more adventurous with your cooking. Matt Weiner is great (check out his videos too) but he does focus on a more vegetable heavy low animal protein diet. It just depends on your eating preferences. I love eating vegetables & add legumes to some meals but I also am a carnivore. Hope you find a good local dietician/nutritionalist soon. -
10 months post gastric not lossing
Arabesque replied to chulamex831's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
What does your surgeon & dietician say? You may have reached your new set point (the weight your body is happiest at) & as @catwoman7 said it is harder to lose & maintain at a lower weight if where you are now is your set point. Remember not everyone reaches their goal weight. Generally, eating 1000 calories should result in a loss. I’m only an inch taller than you, am not really active, & can maintain at my lower weight consuming about 1400 calories. Though we are all different & our bodies have different needs. The pouch reset isn’t a physical reset but a mental reset. If you’re already following your plan re calorie intake,food choices, & meeting protein, fluid & macro goals you are doing all the right things. Mashed potatoes & scrambled eggs are in the plan for many people from the third week. What you are then only affects you then. It doesn’t affect what is happening now. I agree with @summerseeker. Give your team a call @Sammy C & see if you can negotiate moving to al, or maybe some purées. Being in liquids only for 6+ weeks seems excessive but your surgeon may have a reason for it. -
Yep it’s a just head reset. Just go back to what you were eating when you reached your maintenance weight or just before. That’s the caloric intake you need to maintain at that lower weight so if you eat at that level you will lose to get back to there.Though it sounds like you know the cause of your gain. Hit your old protein & fluid goals & keep your eating low fat, low sugar & low carbs (look to whole & multi grains & complex carbs not simple high processed ones) as you need. Remember that is how you will have to always eat (food choices & calories) if you want to maintain that lower weight. If where you are now is actually your set point (the weight your body is happiest at) as @Spinoza mentioned it will be harder to maintain a lower weight.
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Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
Arabesque replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was given volume limits to begin which is easiest in the early stages. Once on more solid foods I’d check the weight of solid proteins mainly so I could work out how much of say a piece of steak or a chicken thigh I could eat. (I weigh befire I cook.) It just depends upon what you’re eating. Most difficult is meat on a bone like a pork or lamb cutlet. Then it’s a guessing game & experience in eyeballing size. -
Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
Tomo replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If I have a scale, I weigh it otherwise, I measure volume or eyeball it too if I don't have either. I make a point to always measure my food, whether by volume or weight, otherwise little by little my volume would increase. I can't trust myself to stay around 4 ounces like others can so I have to measure or the weight may creep back up. I try to stay around 112g (4 oz) with a meal that contains any heavy food like protein. If it's a fruit snack, like watermelon that is mostly water, I weigh a bowl with the fruit before and then after to get the weight I had eaten so I could track my calories accurately. -
Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
GreenTealael replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Early on I measured by volume (1/8 cup etc), later by weight (3 oz of protein) and now by sight (palm of my hand). I think it’s easier by volume in the beginning because you can estimate how much food can comfortably “fit” when you aren’t necessarily worried about calories. But weighing helps when it comes to protein estimation when you reach the solid food stage. Good luck! -
Hard agree - I know most of us will eat home-cooked proper food the vast majority of the time. It's nice to see what's out there for times when you need to grab something on the go though. I also focus on protein and tend to completely ignore the carb part of fast food! Thanks for sharing all. Storing some of these up in my memory banks!
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ANy book recommendations for stage 4 eating plans?
Spinoza replied to Sigh's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
My absolute go-to book is A Pound of Cure by Matthew Weiner. For months after my sleeve I angsted over not getting my 5+ portions of (fruit and) veg every day but now I get that by lunchtime most days. My only other advice would be to stick to protein first, veg second, carbs third at every single meal. It works. -
Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
Spinoza replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have a sleeve but I have never measured anything. I suspect it might be different for people with a bypass? My stomach tells me when it's had enough - it has increased steadily from a couple of teaspoons 16 months ago to about half a plate of food at each meal these days. Strangely (with hindsight - having read lots here) I was never given any goals at all - just protein first, veg second, carbs if you need something more, and it's worked out really well for me. I hope you can relax into your surgery and best of luck with your new life 🤗 -
Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Spinoza replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I feel your frustration OP. Hitting your stride can be really difficult. My advice 5 weeks out would be to try to hit your fluid goal and your protein goal as many days as you can, and to let everything else fall into place around those. Don't fret too much about calories at your stage - you are unlikely to be able to physically get enough in to gain weight, or even be close to maintaining your current weight - you are programmed to lose right now. Be mindful of everything you take in and aim to form habits for a new and healthy life. I wish you the very best of luck. -
Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Possum220 replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
700 would be the very minimum to aim for. 300 is way too low. Your body needs fuel. You may find it easier to to have a combination of fluids and and soft foods until you can see the dietician. There is no one size fits all. Just do the best you can. At five weeks you are still healing and finding your way. I found that baked beans or soft scrambled eggs (including the yolks) was a tasty way to get my protein in. Warmed tomato juice and added my own protein powder. Stalls will happen along the way. Do yourself a favor and stay off the scales. -
Hi Bridge! Can you fill us in on some of your stats? If you only had a little weight to lose in the first place it might be that your body has gained a little and settled into its new 'set weight' now. If you had loads to lose and you didn't quite get there then it might be helpful instead to unpick exactly what you did straight after your surgery. I think the sleeve 'reset' might in many cases just be going back to the rules your team gave you after your surgery. Lots of fluids, protein first at every meal, veg second, carbs last. You are still early in your journey so I suspect if you go right back to those basics you still have time to lose loads more weight (if you need to). I have only just stopped losing weight 16 months after my sleeve. You will get good advice here, so well done for seeking help and best of luck!
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Had surgery last Thursday, so I've been home for 2 days as of 15 minutes ago. I weighed more when I got discharged than when I went in despite only having eaten a Jello cup in 2 days, but I put that down to inflammation. This morning I weighed a little less than I went in. I sneezed last night and my fiance saw me cry for the first time, and we've been together 16 years. I took my multivitamin first thing this morning and threw up. Kept it down after drinking 4oz protein shake. Yogurt gives me diarrhea, water hurts more than the fuller liquids, and my stomach is turning somersaults and I think I'm hungry because I'm used to interpreting it that way, but I have no desire to eat.
My biggest problem is that I am used to being busy. I own a business and I've been getting active on these boards, and when I'm on my laptop I forget to drink. Will I hurt myself if I drink faster? I've been scheduling 4oz every 30 minutes with breaks before and after meals. Is it too fast to drink 4 oz in 15 min to get caught up on what I missed?
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HELP! Day One of Pre-Op Diet and Massive Stomach Bloating and Pain
See.Allie.Run replied to See.Allie.Run's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks again to everybody who replied. As an update, it actually wasn't an allergic or bad reaction to the protein shakes, but a really bad case of the STOMACH FLU. Ugh. Only starting to feel a little better now - 4 days later. On the bright side, my fears about how hard the first few days would be on a liquid diet kinda were for nothing 🙂. I still can't stomach protein shakes after all the violent vomiting (sorry if TMI). So my first 4 days of a liquid diet has pretty much consisted of chicken broth, water and a little non-fat yogurt. At this point, just trying to get my fluids up. I haven't spoken to my surgeon yet about this...hoping it won't delay surgery. -
Soft food/Puree Out of Town
Blossoming1 replied to Blossoming1's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I am going to try to eat a soft boiled egg today. I have not ate eggs in over 3 years. I get a little anxious eating foods I haven't ate in a long time. I don't want to upset my stomach. I need to hit my protein intake. Even though they are not exceptionally high in protein I am going to try. I doubt I will eat animal products in a few months but right now I think I am to lazy to get nutrition other ways. -
Soft food/Puree Out of Town
Blossoming1 replied to Blossoming1's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I have not tried the pouches, but I have tried the little cups of them. I only had one. I will look into it. Thank you both. That is a great suggestion. I am really trying to reach my protein intake daily. I have half of my protein shake gone and I started on it at 8am, its almost noon. -
Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
summerseeker replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You are doing so well. I really struggled to get protein in too, its tough in the beginning. The advice I was given was just do my best every day. You will loose your stamina if you don't keep your calorie count but you have a few weeks grace yet. Eating high protein yogurts and drinking a shake a day should give you 50 grams of protein. This is a great boost of energy and if you choose wisely, low cal too. At the end of my day, I total my protein, using a app and if I am short I have some cheese, skimmed milk or a protein pudding. It will all get easier in the weeks to come -
Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Jonathan Carlson replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You can definitely supplement soft foods with protein shakes. If you're having trouble meeting your goal, drink one or two of those during the day -
Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Lisa XO replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am pretty much in the same boat as you. So, no help here but commiseration. I find it very difficult to break 600 calories and I am three months out. Met with my nutritionist last week and the only advice she really had was "you have to eat more protein". I don't know if anyone other than wls patients understand how hard that can be. -
Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Victoria_Faith posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am almost 5 weeks post-op, and am frustrated. I joined another site to help me track my foods, and yesterday I consumed less than 300 calories for a whole day and was nowhere near my protein goals. Last week I was able to make some egg whites and I had a 1,000 calorie day and felt like that was too much. My dietician told me to aim for 700 per day, with a minimum of 80g of protein. I feel like there's no consistency. Yall, I am really struggling. Do I need to go back to my liquid diet where I was getting all my protein? I've been at a stall for almost 2 weeks and don't see my dietician again until mid-April. -
I had 1/2 protein shake, we went to a sushi restaurant 4 oysters smashed, miso soup serving, blended up another soup when home,4 fish bites smashed with popsicles through out the day i feel like its a lot now. I'm always trying to meet my protein goal popsicles dont hurt ever & I like them i think im struggling with my eating habits I am out of town at a conference next week. Im concerned because they asked me my eating preference and I said vegan. I'm worried about getting my protein. And having nothing to eat. only thing that hurt today was the fish bites
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Aah the joy of constipation. Add a soluble, non swelling, fibre to your shakes to help & try to keep on top of it. You’re not eating much so not going everyday is to be expected. I used to take a stool softener if I got to the third (sometimes 4th) day with out any movement. Any longer & it became more difficult to break, more uncomfortable & then painful when you do go. I diluted my hideous shakes as well to dilute the flavour & graininess & got bonus fluids. Didn’t care if it took me two hours to drink it. Just sipped until I was done. It can be hard at first to meet your protein & fluid goals. As long as you’re making an effort & slowly getting closer. It does get easier. Avoid social media. I think it’s the worst when it comes to promoting unhealthy eating behaviours, food choices & excessive portion sizes. I developed an aversion to those types of images. I would start to feel ill looking at them. I also avoided live tv & would record any programs so I could fast forward the food ads. Thank goodness for ad free steaming services. What was odd was that I could watch baking & cooking shows. British Bake-off, British MasterChef (all three), Great British Menu & Top Chef were my favourites & they didn’t make me hungry. Don’t have any suggestions for coping with your house mates’ eating habits. I live alone. You can’t force them to eat as you do but maybe you could let them know it does make it difficult for you & you may have to leave the room they’re eating in. It is something you will always have to face. I rarely eat sweet foods but in time I reached a point where it didn’t bother me if people around me eat cake, deserts, etc. My niece had a box of cakes, brownies, cake pops, whoopi pies, cheese cakes, cup cakes, etc. samples for her 13th birthday last week. Everyone was filling their plates with a variety of things & I was fine - I ate a strawberry. As I said before - it does get easier over time. Just got to work out how you can manage it now - what works for you.
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My plan doesn't include chips. Most child's menus are not anything I would touch, nor are they designed with adult pallets in mind. I do, however, love Mexican food. How can you go wrong with protein and cheese? Flour tortillas are problematic, so I avoid those like the plague. When ordering out I'd rather just purchase a protein based menu item and go from there. I'd drop the bun or flour tortilla for two reasons. First, such bread items tend to cause problems for me. Second, they are generally not on my plan. When it comes to left-overs, I've learned not to bother, again for multiple reasons. First, chicken tends not to work in leftover form for me, though I can often manage the right meat in the right style. Second, my spouse generally eats her complete meal rarely with leftovers, so each meal is it's on it's own. Why would I do left-overs when fresh food is the order of the day? Most left-overs get discarded eventually. As with everyone and everything, if it works for you and your plan it's what matters. Good luck, Tek
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February 2019 weight loss buds
Recidivist replied to TheMarine79's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hello to everyone! It's a bit late, but happy 4-year anniversary to everyone. (Can you believe it has been that long?). I hope everyone is doing well in their journeys. I'm in a good place. I've gained about 20 pounds since my low weight (which frankly was too skinny, although I was thrilled at the time) and have managed to stay there for the last 2 1/2 years or so. I'm still following the plan pretty closely (high protein, low carb, low fat, almost no sugar) but allow myself indulgences now and then, such as a glass of wine or a scoop of ice cream. At this point, I feel like I'm eating "normally," though it's definitely different than pre-surgery. I'm happy that I've developed healthy eating habits and don't really have to think about it any longer.
