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What to say to friends who think that surgery is “cheating” or lazy
SpartanMaker replied to GmaBecks's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I think it's a sad state of affairs when we feel like we have to hide our decisions from others because of how we know others will react. I'm not judging anyone that makes that choice since I did it too. I told my family, but specifically decided not to tell my co-workers since I was expecting people to say dumb things like this. The cheating comment I find specifically odd, personally. To me this was life or death, and I chose life. It definitely wasn't some game where the concept of cheating might be meaningful. I feel like it would be no different than if someone were to say to me that I "cheated" when I had open heart surgery. How could you even think that? My choices were either have the surgery, or die. As to weight loss surgery being "the easy way", as all of us here know there is nothing easy about this. Those of us that have reached our goal weights know that the surgery was just a tool, but the important change is what had to happen between my ears. Nothing about that was or is easy. It's still hard work every. single. day. I also wanted to comment on this: I can virtually guarantee you I eat better and workout harder than your son. I NEVER would have been able to workout as hard while I was still obese. It took losing almost 100 pounds before I could even really walk much. Now I run 40+ miles a week. It's hard for people that are not obese to understand just how hard even simple movement can be. Weight loss surgery was the catalyst that allowed me to be where I'm at today. -
I think I can count this as NSV! So I am pretty certain my body is done losing weight and I am going to stay at a healthy 165-170lbs, I am cleared to exercise again (i.e walking, hiking, stationary bike, lower body weights). I am back to working out 6 days a week with 3 of those days being strength training/cardio. I have never been in this spot where I am just maintaining, meal prepping is a thing that I do and I don't dread it, working out is just part of my day, not binging and just being able to eat sweets in moderation or if I go crazy then the next day I just get back on track and don't slip. Is this what regular, never been obese people live and feel?! I was reflecting on the past year and reflecting how much I yo-yo'd since I was 12yrs old. How I was killing myself putting junk in my body every single day, easily eating 5000 calories if not more a day, eating well and losing the water weight 10lbs then get discouraged and give up. The day I decided I was going to go through with the gastric sleeve and take my health back was the day I read this!
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Posture
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Bypass2Freedom's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I think I've always had bad posture. Last time I was this size, I was in high school. I didn't care about my posture then lol I was really active so I really wasn't thinking about it. Once I had my son (at age 20), my PCOS kicked in hardcore and I gained a ton of weight that I couldn't lose. I assume my posture got worse, but I went from 165 when I got pregnant to 250 when I had my son. I lost about 15 pounds post baby and pretty much stayed there until I got pregnant with my daughter (at age 28). I went up to 315 when I had her and never lost a single ounce. As time went on, I slowly gained and nothing worked for losing it, so my "give-a-damn" busted and I stopped caring. And by the time I was 38, I weighed 395 and by age 42, I was 421. And stayed there until I had my original surgery in 2022. All through that, I'm pretty sure my posture just got worse and worse. And now that I'm 46 and weigh 245 pounds LESS, the bad posture is REALLY noticeable and even more uncomfortable than ever. I'm going to try some of the suggestions in this thread, because something's gotta give. -
Blood Pressure Issues
SpartanMaker replied to AimeeMcGregor's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Wow, that's a bit concerning for sure. Hopefully you've already seen a doctor and discussed this issue? There are some medical conditions completely unrelated to weight that can cause a sudden rise in blood pressure, so I would think it's worth a visit to your doctor to discuss what may have caused this. Also, have you noticed any patterns where it's high vs. low, or is it just high all the time? For example, times of day, before vs. after eating, sodium intake, life stresses, that sort of thing? -
it's very unusual for "normal" weight loss patients (that is, those of us who aren't the size of the folks on "My 600 lb Life") to lose that much weight (the 30 or 40 lbs you mentioned) the first month. I have been involved nationally - both on forums and at conferences - with WLS for years, and I've never known anyone to lose that kind of weight (maybe 30 lbs - but even those folks are outliers. Forty pounds? Never). Most of us lose somewhere in the 15-25 lb range that first month, so you are right where you need to be. I lost 17 lbs my first month, and I started out at well over 300 lbs. I went on to lose 235 lbs (have gained some of it back, as most people do, but I'm still over 200 lbs lighter at nine years post surgery). Your loss is absolutely normal.
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1 Year Post-op 🎉🎉
SpartanMaker replied to Bypass2Freedom's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Congrats, you've done an awesome job so far! I'm going to tell you now; transitioning to maintenance is HARD. It's scary to start eating more, it's hard to know how much to eat, and it can be challenging for some to eat all the food they actually should be eating. I would also STRONGLY, STRONGLY encourage to to work up to at least 1 hour of cardio 3 days a week and 1 hour of strength training 2 days a week if you are not already doing this level of exercise or more. The data is crystal clear here. Those individuals that get at least the amount of exercise I listed are significantly more likely to be able to maintain their weight loss. Scientists don't entirely know why this level of exercise is needed (it's almost double what someone that was never obese needs to maintain weight), but the most likely explanation at this point has to do with the fact that exercise affects your body in a couple of ways: Regular exercise changes the way the brain regulates hunger and metabolism. Simply put, most of us got as big as we did pre-surgery because our brains weren't good at telling us when to stop eating. Exercise seems to help change the way your brain understands and interprets these signals. Exercise also lowers stress and systemic inflammation, two huge triggers for overeating. Best of luck! -
What to say to friends who think that surgery is “cheating” or lazy
GmaBecks posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am now in my second week out of gastric bypass surgery, can’t wait to get to puréed stage. I have immediate family and close friends who basically told me that I am taking the “easy way” out or flat out say that I have not shown enough discipline in the past to be successful at weight loss. I haven’t shared that I’ve had this surgery with anyone else, friends, neighbors, colleagues because of this. I am feeling good about the surgery, I feel competent to succeed all by myself if necessary, but I was wondering if others have run to this barrier in support and if so, what they’ve said or done. -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
NeonRaven8919 replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
This is probably the weirdest one yet. But I'm certain it's because of my weight loss. In my dreams, I've never been able to run. I always go faster by doing like a wheelbarrow type walk on my hands. But yesterday, I was dreaming and I was full on running. I think it's a mental thing to show I'm finally free of the weight and the expectations. But in actual physical milestones, I'm on the 5th hole in my watchband instead of the third when I had the surgery, and the 4th about 2 months ago. -
Not sure what your coverage is for them but I strongly suggest you talk to your doctor about the GLP-1 if eating different is the cause for regain. Your tool is still there, you most likely just need help switching your diet back and the GLP-1 should take your appetite away almost completely making that a great deal easier. I have a friend that lost all of her weight and was actually losing too much and had to back off of them because she wasn’t getting enough nutrition. I had to keep reminding her to get in her protein and fluids. She has great coverage for them through her work insurance (she pays $25). I actually wanted to do them when I did my revision this year but I didn’t have adequate coverage for them and financially they just weren’t an option so I went for the revision. I talked to my doctor about waiting but she thought it would be a couple years before anything changed in terms of coverage and my labs were creeping up so waiting wasn’t a good idea. I am doing great in terms of weight loss but faced with another medical issue now, the gastro changes I’ve had aren’t making things any easier for me. Losing the weight is for sure the goal but if you can do it without surgery that’s always better. As far as I know revision is for people who gain without any real known reason. You are saying that you’re eating different for an emotional reason so you probably just need help changing back to your better habits both mentally and physically. Honestly, I think the GLP-1 will be the first option for many people in the very near future. They are considered safer at this point. It’s just a matter of them becoming more accessible for people. Take it with a grain of salt but it’s something I would at least consider before jumping to the surgery option.
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you are ready when you are ready. it took me 2 extra years and 2 (self-inflicted) surgery postponement/cancellations until i finally bit the bullet and had it done. oh and i even gained an extra 35 lbs during those indecisive years for good measure. only u can decide if ur ready. i will offer a suggestion though...maybe go though with the process to the official approval step (if u get one) and just postpone ur surgery date instead of cancelling altogether. this way if u do decide to go through with it, you don't have to start at the beginning. also, *raises hand* i am 5'2" as well! this is what weight loss looked like on MY 5'2" frame. (the collage below is from my first year progress pics plus a couple pics after my plastics and 2nd & 3rd yr anniversaries. i am 6+ yrs out now, and pretty much look the same as my last pic...but i do weigh about 10lbs less today)
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Journaling & tracking food/weight etc
PieceOwt posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Since I know I am going to have track my food, weight & supplements etc. very closely, I wanted to combine this with my love of journaling so it wont be such a pain (hopefully!) Does anyone use journals for tracking post surgery? looking for ideas on page layout, what's necessary to include, cute stickers etc. I figure the more fun I make this, the more likely I will actually keep at it and do it properly 🤞😉 -
January 2025 Surgery Buddies!
NoSnowHere replied to Melissa💖💜💙's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
That's exciting! I have a few weeks to go until my 3 month follow-up, but like you, I'm anxious to hear what my surgeon says. I started losing weight right after the first of the year during the pre-op diet, had my bypass January 30, and have lost a total of 41 lbs. so far. It's been quite a journey! -
Serious Plateaus After Bypass Surgery
LunarEclipse02 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Pardon my ignorance! I had gastric Bypass on January 15th. I had mine done due to gastroparesis not for weight loss. I weighed on average 250lbs before surgery. As of now I'm at 220lbs. Yes I have lost nearly 30lbs. Most of my weight loss was right at first and have hit two major plateaus after surgery. I consume little amount of calories. I mainly have protein shakes which consist of Premier Protein or Redcon1 MRE. I eat ground proteins like lean beef or turkey. I am very strict on my diet. I work out daily and put in at least two hours. I would thought my progress would have been greater. I'm trying to lose weight before I return to work and build up my strength. I feel like I'm failing and I don't know what to do. Is this normal? I've been stuck at 220lbs for almost two weeks now. Please don't beat me up too badly in the comments. -
I don’t have a date yet but I think I have pretty well settled on the SADI surgery for my revision. I meet with him the end of next month to ask my final questions and then I guess it’s a waiting game. I am hesitant to post on the regular pre op boards and say I’m pending revision because I gained it all back. I feel like I may discourage someone from trying.
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Where’s the weight loss?!
SpartanMaker replied to Jaxxamillion's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@WendyJane made a great point. I sort of assumed you were getting your protein other ways, since it's certainly possible to do so without eating meat. That said, transitioning to vegetarian or vegan would be really hard to do right after bariatric surgery. While that sort of diet can be a healthy choice, getting enough protein has to be your main goal. Hopefully your team gave you a minimum protein goal. If not, at 3 months out I would want to see at least 70 grams per day minimum, with 100 as a better goal. As you get to 6 months, 120+ would be ideal, though even more is beneficial. We focus on protein during weight loss for several reasons: Protein is essential to your body. While you also need a small amount of essential fats, you could in theory get those from a supplement. Dietary carbs are not essential because your body can convert protein and fat to glycogen to fuel your body. Protein is highly satiating compared to carbs, plus it takes longer to digest than fats, meaning you'll be full longer. Protein is actually harder to digest, meaning on average, for every 100 calories on protein you eat, you burn about 20 calories just to digest it. This means the more protein you eat, the lower your overall caloric intake compared to carbs and fats. Higher levels of dietary protein help you preserve more muscle mass as you lose weight. Because muscle is more metabolically active than fat, the more muscle mass you preserve as you lose weight, the more calories you'll burn, even at rest. In short, protein, protein, protein. You really can't eat too much protein at this point after surgery. -
UK Mounjaro friends!
summerseeker replied to xKirstenx's topic in GLP-1 & Other Weight Loss Medications (NEW!)
Hes on the max dose now he tells me. I am away from him at the moment visiting family so I am unsure of the cc's. Hes been on it since the Novenber, so pretty good. Hes very immobile so its all down to it lessening his appetite. 16 kgs is a lot. 2.5+ stones, I work in old weights. Imagine carrying that weight of potatoes with you now. You might not see it on yourself but next time you go to Asda just look at the potatoes, put them on the scale. Its a lot x -
Just wanted to share since i'm new
EmilyFlowers replied to EmilyFlowers's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Wow, congratulations on being off all your diabetes meds and insulin already at just 7 weeks out! You're so right about the liver doing its own thing overnight, I'm still learning all these quirks. My morning numbers can be all over the place even when I eat the exact same thing. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's had such amazing results with their blood sugar. I'm still on a reduced dose of Metformin but hoping to get off it completely as I continue losing weight. Can I ask what your typical breakfast looks like now? I'm always trying to find that sweet spot between getting enough protein in and not spiking my glucose. -
Anyone experience any benefits with green tea ???
Dub posted a topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I'm putting this here in the supplement section....hopefully this is a good spot. I've been a coffee lover my entire adult life....if one dared categorized me as an adult. I have no plans in quitting my coffee, but I may substitute some of my daily mugs with green tea. I keep seeing it referenced as having weight loss benefits. Skeptical but willing to try something different. With coffee, I"ll generally buy pre-roasted beans and grind them just prior to brewing each pot. Are there certain brands, types, forms of green teas that you've tried and enjoyed ? Is there a little caffeine boost from it ? 😁 -
possible to stall after 9 day?
DaisyChainOz replied to DaisyChainOz's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks for the reply @ShoppGirl I know I shouldn't but it's a compulsion... and honestly if I *had* weighed myself every day back when I was slim...and taken action when my weight crept up in the first place... I wouldn't be here now 😝 I am NEVER going to not weight regularly again. Thank you @Arabesque, great advice and encouragement as always 😁 ffor double post above, I can't remove or edit it either. -
Stressing about eating too much
bahuber5477 replied to starryskies's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am not to goal yet but I can tell you that as long as I keep my protein high i seem to lose weight independent of actual calorie goal. I am 6 months out and am shooting for 130 grams of protein and somewhere around 1500 calories. Continuing to lose a couple lbs a week even though it’s not terribly linear lol. -
January 2025 Surgery Buddies!
Debbiedorey@icloud.com replied to Melissa💖💜💙's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Finally hit over protein for first time in 5 weeks. I’ve not lost any weight in over 10 days. I’m eating around 500/600 calories a day in total since 27th January . I’ve lost around 10kgs since surgery should I be worried x -
Slowing Down 😶🌫️
BigSue replied to Bypass2Freedom's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You can keep losing weight any time as long as you're in a calorie deficit. It's easiest to lose weight early on because (1) your restriction is strongest, so eating at a deficit is practically automatic, and (2) you have the most excess weight, and the more excess weight you have, the easier it is to lose. As you lose weight and become smaller, the calories you burn just by existing (breathing, circulating blood, digesting food, moving around) get lower. If you weigh 200 pounds and eat 1200 calories per day, you'll lose weight a lot faster than if you weigh 150 pounds and eat 1200 calories per day. You can still lose weight, but you may have to be a lot more conscientious about your food intake instead of just relying on your surgery to prevent you from overeating. -
May 2024 Surgery Buddies 😁
JeninBelg replied to Bypass2Freedom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I know how you feel- I am doing a DietBet (it’s an app) I figure if I have money in the game ( you pay into a pool, all who meet their goal get a share of the pot ( which is the pool of money paid in minus commission from the app) I am doing a Lose 4% of your body weight in 4 weeks i figure it’s a good reset motivator if nothing else -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
ShoppGirl replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
That looks like so much fun. I’m 99% sure I couldn’t have done that at my starting weight (or starting stamina was probably the bigger issue). People don’t realize the surgery doesn’t just change your appetite or capacity. It is the metabolic changes that are life changing. -
The New Year is Approaching!
Bypass2Freedom replied to AmberFL's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
This will be the first year that I am going into, having managed to lose weight! Feels like such a relief. 2025: Get to my first goal weight Drink more water Plan meals/meal prep See my family more Drive more Save money
