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Do any of you vets completely ignore this rule?
genn replied to tenseintexas's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I used to be a bartender and I know it's not preferred but I know of two people who had that surgery and drank soda and alcohol daily but I can also tell you that both of them are putting the weight they lost back on I haven't had my surgery yet but just by what I saw in them I wouldn't suggest it I quit soda 6 months ago and I crave it every day but know that I want to make this a long term goal and there is no sense going through all this just to eventually pile it back on the point is to start a new life and new ways. Best of luck and I hope that helps sway you to keeping up ur great work!! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
What do you miss or think you will miss about being obese?
Candygyrl replied to 111's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I would have ignored this thread and rolled my eyes but the way I'm feeling today... I think its right on time. So I will miss Eating and Drinking at the same damn time. Enjoying carbonated beverages (guilt free) My "Big Booty Judy" Booty Eating more than just 2-3 bites of food before I'm full. Red Lobster Cheddar Bay Biscuits pancakes with extra butter Croissants warmed with a pat of butter Spaghetti sandwiches with buttery garlic bread Alcohol although I didn't drink much to begin with I definitely enjoyed an occasional margarita, daiquiri, pear martini, sweet red (wine) whether it be during lunch when the hubby would take me out or date night. So... most of my misses are food related. CARBY foods were my poison. I will get over it. It's like a relationship that you know wasn't good for you-- happy to be out of it buuut every now and then you get sad reminiscing about good times. Today I just had a moment although I always understood that for the rest of my life I would have to be very careful about anything I eat or drink-- I guess It just got real real for me. -
I went all out lol. I got absolutely wasted and ordered a BBQ bacon cheeseburger and loaded cheese fries. Alcohol alone must have been at least 1000 calories. I know a lot of people say not to do food funerals but it was worth it lol.
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Suggestions for drinks (non alcoholic)
carlacv posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm on my third week and feeling good. I've been reaching my Water intake goal but was wondering other than adding crystal light what other beverages can I have. I used to be a Coke drinker for decades but none at all since surgery. Thank you for your suggestions. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
I am sure that this wasn't the best thing to receive, but I thought no it speaks volumes of the misunderstanding that goes along with our disease of obesity. When I told my uncle I was going for the surgery he said, "Can't you just cut down on what you eat?" He didn't mean it in a negative way, in his own way he was trying to help me. I am certain that your boss didn't mean anything negatively, but they just don't understand what you are going to be dealing with. Just remember that you didn't go through this for anyone but you! They will give you the best gift ever when they are praising your transformation in a few short months. Don't let the little stuff bug you, just remember that they don't get it unless they have been through it. You wouldn't ever give a bottle of whiskey to an alcoholic, but yet... what we have is not seen the same way to the outside world. You Rock!!! And you don't need them to understand, you have all of us! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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There are any number of reasons you can give people for not drinking. Pick one and stick to it. If you haven't tried alcohol yet (and you shouldn't have), in front of people is not a good place to experiment. Alcohol is sugar, sugar leads to dumping. Dumping can lead to sweating, drooling, foaming, vomiting, and severe abdominal cramps. I'm sure this was said just recently and repeated ad nauseam... Just don't do it. You have the rest of your life to drink. Take a year off and let your body get back to good. Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity and spelling.
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I'm on pre op and I found Crystal light pure made with truvia which is stevia and that's natural God made sweet plant but tgey mix it with a little sugar alcohol so you may or may not have problems with that. I'm allergic to aspartame or phenkyt whatever lol but I can handle small amounts of splenda/sucralose but not to much so I looked carefully and found alternatives. Still. It IS hard...I'm hungry and my mom cooks good and she us cooking good smelling food for herself so not helpful!! Oh well it's just one week for me!! Good fortune
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8 months out - it's still an eating disorder - but I wouldn't change a thing
Jennifer Ostermeier posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am 8 months post sleeve. I am 12 pounds from my goal weight which I set...not my doctor. I wanted to get out of the "unhealthy BMI" range. There is a chance I'll lose more than that, but for now, 12 pounds to go. I have written a blog for many years, it started with looking for plus size clothing, learning about the Health at Any Size movement and now I write about binge eating disorder and alcoholism. (Yep, I got the double whammy) Just wanted to put it out there, that the sleeve has helped me so much, but I still see my eating disorder evolving and trying to manipulate the crap out of me. The sleeve is my tool, I am full, I try not to eat any more. But sometimes I do overeat. And that's okay. https://healthatmysize.com/2016/10/14/its-a-slippery-slope/ -
I am almost 2 years out (surgery in Jan 2015) not regaining significantly (3-5 lbs but that's where it starts) but sort of stuck at 25 lbs from goal for 6+ months. I too had let my old habits sneak back in - eating junk, fried foods, sugar, drinking alcohol. I was on the verge of ordering NutriSystem, as I thought the pre-portioned, nutritious meals would help me, but it is EXPENSIVE! I went in search of a way to replicate NutriSystem on my own and found a book called "The Simple Diet: A Doctor's Science-Based Plan" by Dr. James Anderson. It is the easiest plan I have ever done, it is perfect for a post WLS patient and I am so happy I found it. I lost 8 lbs in the first week - that is a lot for someone only needing to lose 25! I'm now on week two, so I'll let you know how it goes. If you're interested, I highly recommend you get the book - I downloaded it to my Kindle. Basically, you use a mix of protein shakes and frozen entrees as meal replacements. They have to meet certain nutritional requirements for calories/fat/protein to be acceptable on the diet, all of that is outlined in the book. You also get unlimited fruits and vegetables in between or with meals (of course w/ no added fat/calories) - none are off limits either - including bananas/potatoes/corn/starchy fruits and vegetables. Water, exercise and that's about it! It's so "simple" and with my restricted stomach size, the portions of these meals are perfect for me. I've really enjoyed the variety I get and surprisingly have found some absolutely delicious frozen meals (Blake's Lasagna Bolognese and Shepherd's Pie are as good as homemade). I thought I would share for those that may be struggling too in case it could help others!
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I have a question
BobScott replied to marissahealthiernewme's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
When I got home from the hospital, and the pain was still a big part of my day, I looked at my situation and realized that my life needed to be different. I was initially embarrassed that I couldn't do it on my own and needed the surgery, and this embarrassment was motivation to not squander this opportunity to hit the "Reset Button" on my habits. I never have looked to be able to re-introduce bad foods, but instead I have looked for replacement foods, and activities. This is the new Football Sunday spread. Lol. Once I started losing the weight, I fell in love with the new "superpower" of a small stomach! I never wanted to have the craving monster come back in my life, so I have convinced myself that my addiction to crap needed to be treated as the disease it is. So I have sworn off of all trigger foods, and basically anything non-healthy. No breads, candy, Pasta, etc. I have never heard of an alcoholic program that has a goal of reintroducing social drinking.. lol. So why does our program have the final goal of being able to eat some of the foods that put us in trouble in the first place? Once you can find your "feel good" foods, things get much easier. For me it was home made Soups, yogurts, Fish, pickles, and almonds. Once you decide to eat to live and not live to eat, it just gets easier. One day at a time, the future is so bright! Surgery was Feb23rd this year... I was 381 and now 214 as of this morning. Down 167lbs Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App- 11 replies
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Day 3 post op with Diarrhea
Havasumoma replied to onelasttime's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Some of the artificial sweeteners do that to me (sugar alcohol) Sent from my LGLS992 using the BariatricPal App -
Intense Desperation and Fear
JAM72 replied to JAM72's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
@@butterfly23 - thank you for your reply and for sharing your perspective! I've read many of your other posts on this site and am really inspired by your journey and success. I know the serenity prayer well (from my mom, who struggled with alcoholism). I haven't thought of it for a long time, but it's so appropriate. Thank you for the reminder! -
VET'S FORUM. What the %^&* is going on around here?
erp replied to LipstickLady's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
Honestly, I usually don't reply. I do amuse myself by reading the threads and all the pre-op people who respond with-- "It's no big deal, you'll be fine" on all the cheating and 'should I eat this' threads. It's like asking the alcoholic if you should have a drink. When I do rarely reply, I simply respond that if they are pre-op they should postpone surgery. If they are post-op then I tell them they should want more for themselves and that french fries and chicken nuggets are not worth a complication at 5 days out and leave it at that. Somehow and I don't know how, I have yet to called a bully or sent a PM to that effect after over 4 years on here. Lipstick lady, I think I recently read a thread where you and Babbs tried to tell someone they were effing the whole thing up and the thread just deteriorated from there. My favorite reply was you telling the pre-ops and newly sleeved something to the effect that they were right and you were wrong and you would just walk away in your size 8 skinny jeans. I guess I just figure that those folks choose to be a statistic, the percentage of people for whom WLS "didn't work". -
VET'S FORUM. What the %^&* is going on around here?
B-52 replied to LipstickLady's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
Fat people are masters at "Self Denial" and "rationalization" I can say this from personal experience....I could suppress the truth and reality so far down in my mind it didn't exist. The fact I am only 5'8" and had to buy my clothes from a "Big and Tall" clothing store. The only pants I could buy had to have the elastic waistband. I wouldn't look in the mirror, and it got to the point I would not step on the scale...ever! The examples go on... I currently have friends today, that if I suggest they join the gym I better duck! As far as Rationalization, I have been on more diets anyone can imagine, including medical supervised diets...I failed miserably at everyone...why? I would rationalize... I can have this little piece of cake, a little won't hurt, right? I know I'm on a strict diet, but if I have this one good meal, I can fast tommarow...but then tomorrow I'm rationalizing something else, again. And before you know it, the whole thing goes down the tubes and I'm back to my old self. I smoked 2 pack of cigarettes a day for over 35 years...same thing....can't tell you how many times I quit. I would buy a pack, smoke one cigarette and throw the pack out the car widow...crazy, right? Pretty soon I would realize how stupid (and expensive) that was and would just start smoking full force again. I believe what you are seeing on this forum, are new people who even though they have had surgery, they still have that old mentality that they can do things and rationalize it away, and then be in denial about it. They post these questions hoping someone will tell them it's fine, everything is going to be Ok. But when confronted with the truth....well, I remember when someone would call me out... It can be just as bad as confronting a high functioning alcoholic...can get nasty The fact is, to loose weight or change oneself in any way, you have to be confronted with the truth. Weight loss surgery is not a game...it's not a gimmick, a fad diet....it is major surgery designed to change and alter your life. You're right, I don't know how some get past the psych eval... but they need to be confronted- 35 replies
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Yes regular diet. I think I decided to steer clear of alcohol. Idk, haven't fully decided. Reading responses and lots of info online. I just don't want to do anything to hinder my sleeve or my progress. I thought about using the "i can't drink due to a medicine I'm on" however 3 out of the 12 of us are nurses so I'm afraid I'll get tons of questions. You know the domino thing when one lie is told?? Ugh. I may just go, and say I have work early in the am. Idk. Still waiting for that miracle response. Lol Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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My last meal before the 2 week liver shrinking diet was hot Buffalo wings, fries, and tuna steak. Actually shared with someone else so I didn't eat a large amount of food. So yummy!! Also had an frozen umbrella drink. Now I am at goal I still eat this stuff on rare occasions... But it ends up being one wing, 1 fry and a couple bites of tuna steak. I totally gave up real high calorie alcoholic drinks.
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It is like telling a Alcoholic not to go to AA or a drug addict not to go to drug rehab it is a illness so is obesity. They could not stop on there own they needed some help this is no different. Maybe if they tried and go with you to a support meeting to see what it is really all about to get a full understanding they would not be so quick to judge. People need to walk a mile in other peoples situation before passing judgement. And Beside love ones are suppose to be the least judgemental of all they love you and should stand by you and be understanding! When I told my family they were like when where which surgery are you doing they were on it and I am getting a revision from lapband to bypass so this is my 2nd and last surgery!
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If they ask tel, them you think you might be pregnant. ☺ Just kidding. Volunteer to be the DD. Tell them it isn't on your current diet. You are watching your blood sugar. Whatever you are comfortable with. As for when you can drink, ask your surgeon. They are all different. Mine said 6 weeks. I have had wine and didn't have any ihealth mpacts. If you do a search for alcohol, you can read more than you probably wanted to know.
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High school reunion
PorkChopExpress replied to gustavio's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Definitely don't drink. I was advised by my surgeon not to drink alcohol for a year after my sleeve...and I plan to follow that advice. Besides, it just converts to sugar in the gut anyway. I have never been a big drinker myself and so I never felt like I needed an excuse NOT to drink. I'd just grab a water with a lemon in it and nurse that all night. You may end up having to excuse yourself early from the get-together, because being around drunk people when you're sober is pretty annoying -
Ok, so my high school reunion is the last week of October and that will put me at 2 months post op. I have a large group of girlfriends from high school that I get together with annually for a girls trip and we always have lots of drinks and fun together. At our 10 and 15 year reunion, we partied until 3-4 am. They will all be attending our class reunion of course. With all that being said, my surgery is a secret. How should I handle this reunion? Is it ok for me to have a couple? (I drink either wine, margaritas or jack and Water with lemon.) has anyone drank so soon post op? What was your experience with it? My doctor didn't give me any direction on alcohol but I've seen posts that say you aren't really suppose to. I never know what to believe due to so many conflicting stories about post op habits, diets, etc. I really have no desire to drink anything at this point. (That may change when I see all my BFF's getting tipsy) So anyone have any good excuses they have used to keep from drinking and also keep the surgery hush hush? I've contemplated just staying home pretending to be sick but I have been looking forward to this since my 15 year reunion! Lol. I rarely rarely drink, in fact, our annual girls cruise is generally the only time I drink all year. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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It is absolutely ridiculous how the pendulum has been swung. I hate pain medication but there are times with my back problems that it is necessary. Well, it is near impossible to get a prescription for pain anymore unless you have had surgery. I think ultimately what will happen is actual drug addicts will become more addicted to alcohol because they can get it very easily. I take nothing for pain now at all and of course cannot take nsaids so there are times when i feel absolutely useless because i either have a heating pad or an ice pack on my body mostly every day all day long. Tylenol does absolutely nothing but then again neither did pain meds so.......the moral of the story is pain meds are good for acute type pain and work in the short term but do nothing for chronic pain. I do miss alieve, at least at one time that seemed to take the edge off. This has been my experience.....anyway.
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What else can be added to protein shakes?
TracyBar replied to ncqt1973's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This is a good question since I see the dietician on Monday and will have a few questions on this. My issue is I can't use artificial sweeteners (no sugar alcohols at all - sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, etc., no aspartame, etc. (badly affects my lower intestine and causes near instant diarrhea). I have to say I'm concerned about what I'll be able to use. I'm also lactose intolerant! *sigh* I feel I may get stuck with some disgusting no flavour Protein Powder and I'll be dying to find something to flavour them. I was thinking real vanilla (like the pods). I wonder if it's o.k. to scrape natural vanilla into a shake? -
I also have to lose 15#'s to get my surgery. I don't have a time limit. But I'm hoping to get the green light for a surgery date on Nov 17th, so I really want to be at surgery goal weight then.. I stay between 1000 to 1200 calories a day and I drink at least 64 Oz of Water. No caffeine. I'm allowing myself one night of eating out weekly. I still watch what I'm eating. Don't drink calories if you don't have any to spare for that. I exercise in the gym 90 min twice weekly (50 min. Weights 40 min cardio). I started at 30 min weights and 20 min cardio. I also walk at least 30 min. a day. (Not all at once) Every other day I have only a shake for Breakfast then 2 meals. I try not to have any Snacks. I lost 5lbs before surgeon gave me goal weight. Since seeing the surgeon 10/1 I have lost another 5lbs. We can do this. I've also started attending a nutrition class and a weight loss group. Both are very helpful. We are going on a 4 day trip to Reno next week. I'm a little...no very nervous about this. Luckily for me we are going in our motorhome. So I plan on doing shakes for breakfast, lite lunch (around 300 calories) and then eat out for dinner. I'm going to limit my alcohol drinking to one drink a day. Lots of walking. I really really don't want to gain! I'll also be weighing myself daily. BariatricPal is a great place to gather helpful info. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Some answers can be harsh (have experienced that) but for the most part people relate to exactly what you are going through. Good luck with your journey. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using the BariatricPal App
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@@PorkChopExpress has made some really great points. I am only 11 days post-op but have realized already that I have been given a TOOL to loose the weight, a great tool, but that I have to conquer my behavioral, emotional, addictive and habitual issues that led me to being overweight. Post surgery so far I have been able to manage my physical hunger and body. But the mind plays some wicked games, and I have often thought about how food used to literally consume so much of my life. For example, Sundays during football season. I think I enjoyed the abundance of fatty Snacks and alcohol more than the games. It is mental. I realize now how much mental energy and thought I have always given food, eating and preparing to eat. I think it ran my life and my optimism and happiness came from food and the thoiughts of having it. I am now having to shift that energy elsewhere to be happy. I am very new to this, but I am using the way I feel (healthier already) and the thoughts of what I will soon be able to do when I weigh less as motivation for my happiness, something to replace food as my sole driver. You might think about a support group if you have similar issues. My surgeons office has one monthly and I plan on going. It is good that you are looking ahead and planning for what is to come. Good luck to you!!!
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@@Who'sThere Well all i know is.... if or when i lose my anal virginity.... i will be well informed... I will make sure i get two beds, extra set of sheets, condoms, lots of good lube.... and plentyyyyyy of alcohol.... then ill come here and tell yall alllllll about it.... cuz im just the sharing type.... LMAO @ (insert my best Alyson Hannigan voice, from american Pie).... One time.. on the waterbed... no sheets.... baby oil.............. LOL
