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It is absolutely ridiculous how the pendulum has been swung. I hate pain medication but there are times with my back problems that it is necessary. Well, it is near impossible to get a prescription for pain anymore unless you have had surgery. I think ultimately what will happen is actual drug addicts will become more addicted to alcohol because they can get it very easily. I take nothing for pain now at all and of course cannot take nsaids so there are times when i feel absolutely useless because i either have a heating pad or an ice pack on my body mostly every day all day long. Tylenol does absolutely nothing but then again neither did pain meds so.......the moral of the story is pain meds are good for acute type pain and work in the short term but do nothing for chronic pain. I do miss alieve, at least at one time that seemed to take the edge off. This has been my experience.....anyway.
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What else can be added to protein shakes?
TracyBar replied to ncqt1973's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This is a good question since I see the dietician on Monday and will have a few questions on this. My issue is I can't use artificial sweeteners (no sugar alcohols at all - sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, etc., no aspartame, etc. (badly affects my lower intestine and causes near instant diarrhea). I have to say I'm concerned about what I'll be able to use. I'm also lactose intolerant! *sigh* I feel I may get stuck with some disgusting no flavour Protein Powder and I'll be dying to find something to flavour them. I was thinking real vanilla (like the pods). I wonder if it's o.k. to scrape natural vanilla into a shake? -
I also have to lose 15#'s to get my surgery. I don't have a time limit. But I'm hoping to get the green light for a surgery date on Nov 17th, so I really want to be at surgery goal weight then.. I stay between 1000 to 1200 calories a day and I drink at least 64 Oz of Water. No caffeine. I'm allowing myself one night of eating out weekly. I still watch what I'm eating. Don't drink calories if you don't have any to spare for that. I exercise in the gym 90 min twice weekly (50 min. Weights 40 min cardio). I started at 30 min weights and 20 min cardio. I also walk at least 30 min. a day. (Not all at once) Every other day I have only a shake for Breakfast then 2 meals. I try not to have any Snacks. I lost 5lbs before surgeon gave me goal weight. Since seeing the surgeon 10/1 I have lost another 5lbs. We can do this. I've also started attending a nutrition class and a weight loss group. Both are very helpful. We are going on a 4 day trip to Reno next week. I'm a little...no very nervous about this. Luckily for me we are going in our motorhome. So I plan on doing shakes for breakfast, lite lunch (around 300 calories) and then eat out for dinner. I'm going to limit my alcohol drinking to one drink a day. Lots of walking. I really really don't want to gain! I'll also be weighing myself daily. BariatricPal is a great place to gather helpful info. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Some answers can be harsh (have experienced that) but for the most part people relate to exactly what you are going through. Good luck with your journey. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using the BariatricPal App
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@@PorkChopExpress has made some really great points. I am only 11 days post-op but have realized already that I have been given a TOOL to loose the weight, a great tool, but that I have to conquer my behavioral, emotional, addictive and habitual issues that led me to being overweight. Post surgery so far I have been able to manage my physical hunger and body. But the mind plays some wicked games, and I have often thought about how food used to literally consume so much of my life. For example, Sundays during football season. I think I enjoyed the abundance of fatty Snacks and alcohol more than the games. It is mental. I realize now how much mental energy and thought I have always given food, eating and preparing to eat. I think it ran my life and my optimism and happiness came from food and the thoiughts of having it. I am now having to shift that energy elsewhere to be happy. I am very new to this, but I am using the way I feel (healthier already) and the thoughts of what I will soon be able to do when I weigh less as motivation for my happiness, something to replace food as my sole driver. You might think about a support group if you have similar issues. My surgeons office has one monthly and I plan on going. It is good that you are looking ahead and planning for what is to come. Good luck to you!!!
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@@Who'sThere Well all i know is.... if or when i lose my anal virginity.... i will be well informed... I will make sure i get two beds, extra set of sheets, condoms, lots of good lube.... and plentyyyyyy of alcohol.... then ill come here and tell yall alllllll about it.... cuz im just the sharing type.... LMAO @ (insert my best Alyson Hannigan voice, from american Pie).... One time.. on the waterbed... no sheets.... baby oil.............. LOL
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I eat carbs - but i choose them wisely. I don't have rice, pasta or white potatoes or white bread. All vegetables have carbs. and once I'm further out, I do plan to have whole grains like oatmeal or a half slice of whole grain bread occasionally. But binging on pasta and potatoes? Not in my plan and if I do it, I will consider that as a personal failure that day on my part and get right back on track. I know what trigger foods I have that I need to avoid because they will just cause me to want more. You seem so convinced that I will never be able to avoid binging on pasta - do you think every recovering alcoholic in AA is DESTINED to stay an alcoholic? Or is it possible to mature enough to know your issues and develop coping mechanisms to prevent going down that slippery slope again? If I wanted to continue to eat the way I had been, I personally wouldn't have gotten the surgery.
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--eat before you go --don't have even one glass of bubbles -- not necessary to celebrate, and the first glass is enough to lower your judgment and inhibitions about what else to drink or eat --practice what you will say to people who are pressing you to eat or drink so that you say it fluidly and without having to think about it beforehand. Examples: no thank you no thank you, I'm good, sorry, I can't drink, doctor's orders sorry, I'm driving tonight, no alcohol for me no thank you, I don't eat that* You might be surprised how much fun you can have at these celebrations with family and friends when you *aren't* obsessing about food or alcohol or sweets. It's very freeing, and it's great to have the focus be on the people around you rather than whatever you are shoveling in your mouth. I eat before social events, and tell myself that if I see plain meat or green veggies offered, I can eat that, but everything else is simply a non-starter for me. That makes it easier -- no worrying, no stress. I remind myself that I am not going to starve to death if I don't eat for a couple of hours. And I have a great time! *note -- I have found that food pushers respond much better to "I don't eat that" than to "I can't eat that" or "I shouldn't eat that." You say either of those last two things and people will start arguing with you. "Why can't you eat that? You can eat just a little bit." "Yes you should! Just take a little bit, it's the holidays." But when I've said "I don't eat that" or "I don't eat that way" or "I don't eat that way anymore" people take me seriously and stop trying to push food on me. Good luck!
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Silly season
PorkChopExpress replied to missdeeAus's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Good old-fashioned willpower? Aside from surgery, it's about the only weapon we have against the holidays. I was told not to even touch alcohol for a year post-surgery, so I won't be. I'll be staying away from sugary stuff because I don't want to get sick, and otherwise I think my stomach will enforce my portion control, so it'll just be about making good choices of what to eat, with a focus on protein.If you're not sure you can make good choices at these functions, my suggestion would be to eat just before you go. -
Alcohol and drugs after surgery
miss_smiles replied to jmc534's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Just an update for whoever wants to know: Sleeved on 3/28 - 6 months out as of 9/28. These are just my personal experiences, it may vary from individual to individual. Also, I do not know the long term effects, these are just the immediate effects. (please no judging, I am writing this to try to help people, not get berated) Weed: Same effect as pre-surgery. Still get high, but also still get the munchies. Make sure you do not give into temptation because you may overeat. I was a lightweight pre-surgery and still am after so not sure if quantity makes a difference. Coke/Molly/E: same effect as pre-surgery. Watch out for quantity. Your body will process this much quicker then before because of your smaller stomach. Be sure to stay hydrated. Do not need to worry about eating, because you will have no appetite. Alcohol: same effects as pre-surgery. Watch out for quantity at first. As you drink more, you may notice your tolerance will go up, not quite as much as pre-surgery. But I can go out and have 6 drinks easily without getting sick. I just end up tipsy/drunk depending on how fast I drank, how much Water I drank, or if I ate a few hours before drinking. Also what I drink - wine or mixed drinks. I stay away from beer and carbonated mixers. That still upsets my stomach. Cigarettes: same effects as pre-surgery. I quit then started up a couple months after surgery. Would not recommend smoking because it does more damage in the long term. Wish I would never have picked it up again. Hope this helps. Again, I just want to say I am not endorsing these behaviors, just sharing my experience. -
Alcoholism and weight gain
blizair09 replied to NessaPooh's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If you feel that you can't stop drinking, then you have an alcohol problem. I would recommend talking to a professional so that you can determine a good path forward. Best wishes! -
Friends and family reaction your wls surgery
vamping replied to xoxococojay's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I've had a mixed bag. I told four people before my surgery (husband, mom, best friend, sister, and another close friend) and all were very supportive. I work from home, so I didn't have to worry about work. I see my co-workers once every 2-3 years if that. Afterwards, I didn't keep it from anyone. We are pretty social people. I live in Las Vegas and a good deal of our socializing revolves around bars and restaurants. Not bothered at all by not being able to drink alcohol or eat what I used to. But we've known most of the bartenders and servers for many years, so I didn't mind sharing with them why I couldn't have certain things. They have all been magnificent. The bar where I watch football every Saturday has even gone so far as adjusting anything I'd like on their menu and/or creating a special dish for me each week with my Protein needs in mind. I love them for that. A majority of my friends have been very supportive. One of the heavier ones was a little standoffish at first, but now that she sees a positive change in me, she's become highly supportive. Another heavier friend likes to throw in that I should have considered Plexus first. One of my thinner friends started out as supportive but now that I've dropped 30 pounds, she's been a little cool towards me. Overall I don't care what people think. Friends come and go. I am very happy with my decision for ME. -
Alcoholism and weight gain
Barry W replied to NessaPooh's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Regarding exercise, it doesn't need to be a long, grueling workout. Just go for daily walks, and start small and gradually lengthen them. Regarding the alcohol, I'd suggest seeking out a support group or counselor. -
Alcoholism and weight gain
busybeebug replied to NessaPooh's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I would seek professional help from an alcohol treatment program or a therapist who deals with alcohol and bariatric. I've been a family member of alcoholic so it's a prospective of a loved one. In my psych evaluation the doctor said it's not uncommon for people to fall into or back into alcoholism after these types of surgery. Good Luck and I will pray for you to find your peace. -
Alcoholism and weight gain
EDMorocco replied to NessaPooh's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hello there, I understand so well as alcohol has been my best buddy for years until 6 months ago when it almost broke my marriage. I was diagnosed with high bp when rushed to hospital and it turns out I have damaged my kidneys in the process. My husband loves drinking with me but we have stopped together and I have realised half tve reason I drank so much was that it helped me feel more confident and less fat. I've been off the booze for 2 months but bliped last week and my kidneys shut down again so no more booze for me. I'm having a sleeve done tomorrow and hope that this will make me friens with my body rather than a bottle. I hear you tvough. It's like losing a life long pal. Good luck and take it a day at a time but it's scary that at 35 I have done myself so much damage. Sent from my SM-A310F using the BariatricPal App -
I've enjoyed my fair share of alcohol beverages before surgery but due to home issues and life I've started t drink a lot more and have gained at least 30 lbs back since my surgery approximately 4 years ago. I don't know what to do at this point and am not in a place where I feel not drinking is an option (i know this is so wrong) but I feel like I'm looking for permission to do something unhealthy like not eating or severely limit my calorie intake in order to resume the weight loss process. I'm feeling weak and not in control and I don't know what to do right now. I hate exercise and i know it's something I need to do but I can't push past my discomfort to do it. I dont know why because before surgery I actually did the work and lost 40 lbs on my own in 3 months. I don't feel like I eat any more that I used to but I keep gaining. I'm so sad because a I'm writing this I'm getting drunk. I feel like maybe my drinking is causing the weight gain ( since it's the only thing that I've really changed) but I don't feel like I'm in a head space to stop. Any advise would help. Thanks
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BEST protien shake option
AmandaCox88 replied to lemonzinger907's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I personally use unhurt. I am allergic to most the others because they sugar alcohols Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
I am 3 years post-op RNY gastric bypass. I strictly avoid processed sugars. I have a sweet tooth and that is one of the major causes that contributed to my weight gain over my lifetime. I limit myself to artificial sweeteners (such as Splenda and sugar alcohols), to natural low calorie sweeteners (such as Stevia) and to the natural sugars found in fruits and milk. I had diabetes. That went into remission when I left the hospital two days after surgery and I have not taken any diabetic medicine ever since and my blood sugar levels are good. I test my blood sugar levels periodically. I read the labels of all food that I consume. I look at the grams of sugar per serving. If it is above 5 grams, I look at the ingredients. The ingredients are listed in order by highest percentage, and if the first 5 ingredients contain processed sugar (in any of its many forms), then I avoid this food, like a plague. This is a list of sugars I avoid: Sucrose (table sugar), Fructose (honey), Dextrose, Maltose (malt sugar), corn syrup, corn solids, high fructose corn syrup, cane sugar, evaporated cane sugar, molasses, corn sweeteners, brown sugar, barley malt, beet sugar, pure maple sugar and date sugar.
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My surgery is November 9th and I'm so nervous due to liver problems
shelbys mom replied to StacyO's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I believe, if you watch the fatty foods, and stop alcohol, your fatty liver problem will disappear. My friend also had it, he canged his ways a d all is good, normal liver now.???? Sent from my SM-N920P using the BariatricPal App -
Anyone with more than 5 years post op?
Luce587 replied to ma08's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I work with a lady who is 6 years sleeved and still within 5kg of her goal weight. She eats well and enjoys the occasional alcoholic drink but really has a balanced life. She uses optifast to help get her back on track if she finds herself gaining weight. -
I have a brewery I want to hit before I have my surgery. That is going to be my last alcohol for quite a long time. They have the most amazing Bourbon barrel aged beers there. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Why did you choose sleeve vs RNY? What protein shakes do you like? What is a good vitamin to take? What are your favorite purees? Help, I'm three weeks post-op and I've stopped losing weight! What should I take to the hospital? When can I go back to work? How can I prevent loose skin? If I take 50 million mcg of biotin every day and get all my protein in, can I prevent hair loss? When can I eat pizza/popcorn/birthday cake? When can I drink alcohol? When can I drink coffee and isn't it true that drinking coffee will leave you a dry, withered husk of a person with all your vital fluids sapped out of your body? Don't get me wrong -- I am not mad at anyone for asking these questions (though truth be told I wonder why people don't try a little harder sometimes to read up on things in advance and figure out they've all been asked many, many, many times before). It's more that I have been here a long time and don't feel like I have anything new or enlightening to add, and it's time for the newbies to get some practice answering the most frequently answered questions. Good luck y'all! I will stick around but will be trying to dial back my talkativeness.
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Yea I suck I know. I went from food addiction to alcohol. Goes to my belly. I'm trying so hard to get a grip. Thanks for the responses lol Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using the BariatricPal App
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You have to do more exercises that tone muscle so you burn fat. Cut out the sweets, chocolate and chips. Your exercise routine should be at least 45 min cardio and 30 min weight training. Hope this helps. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Also cut out the cake, pie and alcohol. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Glad to find this forum and really appreciate all your feedbacks and support! Last couple of days that I found this forum, kept me busy to read most of the topics and feedbacks and really boosted my energy. I am 41 and in my 18 months post op period and started my journey at 209 lb and lost 50lb and presently at 159lb! I dropped size from 1X to 10 and wearing medium size but still what I see in my body is lots of fat specially on my hips and legs! My nutritionist says I've done very good but I think I should lose another 20 lb as I am not satisfied at all with my body right now! She said in August that I've lost 75% of my excess fat which she thinks it would be the max for me as my weight losing got very slow or non at this point! Do any of you have any suggestions for me that how I could start to lose some more weight? I do exercise but not that much! 30 minutes 3-4 day per week! I use to walk for an hour a day but she told me try to work on your muscles! I feel that I dont drink as much as most of you say 64oz, at my best maybe i drink 24 oz per day! I am on Protein but still take some carbs, max a toast in a day or half a toast and half a cup of rice and some sweets, like dark almond chocolate pieces and dry fruits and dates, sometimes a small piece of cake or pie! No juice or carbonated drink for 18 months, i dont drink with my food and dont eat soups, no potatoes, no pastas, sometimes few chips to satisfy my crunching craves! Alcohol small glass once in awhile (in 2-3 months)! Any suggestions will be appreciated as I think I am in need! I am getting so obsessed with my weight now and is kind of depressing! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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I did low carb/high protein/high healthy fat during my six-month insurance-required diet program and lost 99 pounds pre-op. It was the best thing I ever did for myself. I re-established my relationship with food, and prepared myself mentally and physically for the demands the sleeve would bring post-op. I started at 397 taking in about 2000 calories per day. I whittled down to 1800 then 1500, and finally, 1200 for the last 3 months of it. I cut out alcohol completely, too. On the day of surgery, I weighed 298, and today (10 days post-op), I weigh 284. I hope this helps. Good luck!
