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Okay I have been gaining weight post sleeve so I asked my family dr about my hormones. He ordered some thyroid labs but says he also wants me to come get my blood sugar checked two hours after a big meal. He also said that my psyc meds can cause diabetes and I should be doing this test every 4-6 months as long as I’m on them. i thought he was suggesting this as a possibility for why I’m gaining weight but when I got home and googled it I see that weight loss is actually a symptom so I am confused. I drink about a gallon a day so I guess I may check the excessive thirst box and of course I pee a lot with all that water. Also, did tell him that I always feel hungry but I’m gaining not losing. Am I misunderstanding. I know nothing about diabetes.
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Revision completed
redhead_che replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Weight loss is slower than sleeve but I’m still ahead of the curve according to my surgeon’s office. -80 in 5.5 months with 75 to lose still. I’m in Saint Louis but both of my surgeries were in Kansas City where I lived when I started the sleeve journey. I was so comfortable with that office I went back for the revision instead of seeking a STL provider. I do follow with the Mercy system support group though! I know they have a Springfield location of that group too. 🥳 -
high liver enzymes level do seem to be common the first few months after surgery, though...I see postings on that a lot. Mine were as well - then about a year out, they were back to normal. My PCP was freaked out about it, but I did read online that it wasn't that uncommon, and it was due to the rapid weight loss (which is hard on livers). Interesting your surgeon said that, though. EDITED to add: unless he meant it wasn't anything related to the surgery per se, but just rapid weight loss in general? (as in...even if your rapid weight loss wasn't due to surgery?). Not sure. here's an article about temporary spikes in liver enzymes after weight loss: https://www.mdedge.com/endocrinology/article/53013/obesity/liver-enzyme-spike-after-weight-loss-deemed-transient
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Low BMI obesity gastric sleeve option
SpartanMaker replied to William Weston's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I hate that "it's taking the easy way out" line. There's nothing easy about this. Plus, why in the world would that even matter? It's like some people think if we use a tool like surgery, we didn't pay our "penance" for being fat. "Nope, sorry, you're not worthy of being healthy, because you cheated your way to health. Do it the right way or not at all" Really? I sympathize with the position you're in as my wife was and still is very anti weight-loss surgery. Her line was always why would you permanently alter your anatomy when it's possible to do this without making so drastic a change? My response is I never had a problem losing weight, what I always struggled with was maintaining. After way too many yo-yo diets, I needed to do something else. Dieting alone was not working for me. I needed a better tool. That's what it is, by the way, a tool. The analogy I like to use is that WLS is like a shovel. I know that sounds odd, but bear with me... I've dug quite a number of holes on my property to plant trees. Most of those trees will be here longer than I will, but It's still worth it to plant them. I suppose technically I could have tried to dig those holes with my hands but wow, that would have been a challenge and I'm not sure I would have been able to finish the job. With a shovel, it became doable. The shovel still was a lot of work, but it made an almost impossible job, possible. No one thinks using a shovel is "cheating", we just think of it as a better tool. At the end of the day, the risk of early death for me was extremely high with cardiac issues, diabetes, liver and kidney problems, etc. I began to feel that I was living on borrowed time. WLS for me was life-changing and life saving. It immediately reversed my diabetes and high-blood pressure. I used the tool because I had reached the point where all I saw in front of me was an early death. For what it's worth, it would also seem that the medical community takes your side here based on the available medical evidence: https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/442260-after-30-years-new-guidelines-for-weight-loss-surgery/ Best of luck whatever you decide. -
I wanted to make an exercise suggestion - c25k
The Greater Fool replied to Tufflaw's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congratulations! Much like you, I was not one who enjoyed running. I decided to do a program amazingly similar to C25K just to challenge myself, I had no intention of continuing. As it turned out I enjoyed running. I used the time and repetitive motions to meditate and focus on what the day was going to be about. From a weight loss perspective my weight just kept consistently dropping until I passed a completely unexpected normal BMI. Good luck, Tek -
It could just be up because of your weight loss & the stress of weight loss on your liver but it’s probably best to monitor it for a while. There are tests to ensure it’s not related to cirrhosis, fatty liver, gallstones, hepatitis, bile duct blockages. Will be interesting to see what your doctor says. My bilirubin levels were high & still are three plus years on. My surgeon asked if there was Gilbert’s in my family as a sign of that is high bilirubin levels. I discovered I did have an aunt with Gilbert’s & I also had a lot of the symptoms of Gilbert’s too (explained a lot actually) so my surgeon believes I likely have it too.
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This Thursday is my six month follow up with the surgeon who did my bypass. Because my health plan refers out this will be the last time I see her, then my plan takes over. I'm at a loss on what to ask her. Are there any questions I should be asking her about at this point? Thanks
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Just starting my journey!
OKmommax4 replied to Manda1031's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi everyone! I am just getting started, I have my first consult on November 8th, and I think my insurance is going to require a 4-month supervised diet, however, I am hoping that I can appeal that because I have been doing medically supervised weight loss for at least 6 months with medications and no results. If not I guess I am in for 4 months more of medicine and appointments. Either way, I am excited to get started. -
Most insurance plans require your participation in a "physician supervised weight loss program". These tend to range from 3 to 6 months. For example, my insurance only required 3 months, but like @kcuster83, my bariatric team required 6 months. The main reason for this is that surgery alone isn't all that effective long term. To truly lose weight and maintain, we have to learn to change our relationship with food. In addition to that requirement, you'll likely also have to complete a psych eval and may, depending on your program, have to have any number of other tests done like blood & urine tests, CT scans, swallow studies, an endoscopy, etc. Depending on if you have other health issues, you may also have to get other specialist doctors to give their okay, which means even more appointments. It took me almost 3 years to make it through everything, though obviously I'm the exception. You can read all about my journey here: https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/441618-spartanmakers-long-and-winding-road/ Best of luck.
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Revision completed
Tracyringo replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
What do you think about the weight loss end so far? What part of Missouri are you in? I am in Springfield. -
The Dreaded Plateau
oldandtired replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
LOL, don't worry. Your body will adjust. It will start again. LOL really. I am at the point the loss is so slow. But I get on the scale, and there is another pound gone... -
Had Surgery on June 21. Lost a total of 88 lbs since pre-op (61 since surgery). It's been so much easier than I feared. No complications whatsoever. Everything is going great. But I've hit a plateau. I am at the same weight now that I was 3 weeks ago. Really the first plateau I've had. I've read enough to know they happen and it's not a reason to panic. I did have a 10 day vacation in there when I didn't track at all though I'm confident I ate well. But other than that and another short vacation, I've tracked every single day since surgery. So I'm not panicking. I know I'm eating right and the weight loss will return. And I'll be very happy when it does. Until then, I'm not panicking ... really, I'm not. Really. 😂
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I don't know if I have a theme song but I do have 2 songs that I like that seem inspiring to me and my weight loss journey. Legends Are Made by Sam Tinnesz and Katy Perry - Rise. I made a whole exercise playlist of upbeat music to give me energy and it really does help. I'd love to add more music to my playlist so hopefully this thread gets lots of responses.
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Do you have a "theme song" for your weight loss journey? My teenage nieces are big on this, and to be fair so was I -- except back in the day we made mix tapes, not playlists! So I am going to create a playlist from all your theme songs to power me through this unique period in my life. Thanks for sharing!! Mine is Defying Gravity from Wicked, not just because of the whole gravity / weight thing. What really sold it was the first line: "Something has changed within me..." 😂 I'm like, YES, literally, my stomach.
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Some people do experience hunger post op but it’s a very small amount of people. The majority of people later realize it’s head hunger. They say you can tell the difference by what you are hungry for. If you are craving something specific, often something you shouldn’t have it’s head hunger but if you are just hungry and would be satisfied with a healthy option you don’t necessarily enjoy eating then it’s actual hunger. There was one person on here who dealt with this from the beginning and she ended up having to take some weight loss drugs to curb the hunger. I haven’t heard from her in a while now that I think of it, but she did seem to be losing weight in spite of this. Also, I almost forgot, people say that the acid can be misinterpreted as hunger as well. I didn’t experience tbis either but they often prescribe PPI’s for this reason. Ask your team about that.
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Vsg to bypass this December
RickM replied to kweenSash's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'm not sure what California has to do with it, as I know several surgeons who do resleeves, either by themselves or as part of a DS conversion. I suspect that it is more of surgeon's preference as resleeves can be more challenging than a virgin sleeve, as is often the case when doing a repair vs. an original build. Have you had your sleeve evaluated as to what is its' problem - is there a hiatal hernia causing your GERD, or a bit of a shape problem? Some surgeons aren't all that well practiced on fixing hiatal hernias on a sleeved stomach and will go direct to a bypass instead, as that is what they are most familiar with; a bit of overkill for that problem, but easier for them (if not on the patient....) I wouldn't consider a revision until understanding what the problem with the original surgery is (was there something wrong with how it was done, was it incompatible with my personality, or did I just learn how to eat around it and need something stronger along with better habits?) It's good that you are taking in a new attitude on the regain problem, as neither a resleeve by itself nor a bypass do great things for that overall - most of the additional loss seems to come from a return to extreme dieting around surgery time, but the actual revised anatomy doesn't do a lot that you already haven't had done; A revision to a DS tends to do better (actually more of a completion, as the DS uses the sleeve as its basis,) but that probably isn't an option with the group you are dealing with if they can't do a resleeve (if it were appropriate.) But with a sleeve, regain and "some" gerd, I would at least be looking into the DS as an option before proceeding, as the bypass is a difficult thing to undo or revise once it is done. -
Revision completed
Tracyringo replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Its been 2 1/2 years since my revision. Love the RNY so much better. My weight has been stable for over a year now closer to 2 years i would say. So all total i am over 5 years out from this journey and as far as the weight loss goes it was everything and more. I still have GERD ugh -
Agreed, the preop diet was horrible and I also felt like giving up before I had even started! But rest assured, you will have such a small appetite afterwards, broth is probably the only thing you want. Because they remove 80% of your stomach doing a sleeve, all those grehlin cells that lived inside your tummy are gone too. So your hunger pangs disappear as well. I am nearly 5 years out, and still can't get halfway through a regular meal. I am just so full! It's a physical thing (tiny tummy) and a hormone thing (grehlin). After nearly 5 years...I have had my ups (amazing weight loss) and downs (miserable because I can't eat very much, and definitely not my once favourite foods). If food is your "thing", then you need to be prepared that this will change forever.
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Hello all, This is my first post ☺️ I had gastric band procedure done about 10 years ago. I recently had a CT scan and it showed my common bile duct is dilated up to 1.4cm! All the rest of the scan looks good and my blood work is normal. I have read some studies suggesting that weight loss surgeries can cause common bile duct dilation but the studies are referring to bypass and sleeve surgeries. Does anyone have a similar issue with a lap band or any insight on this? Thank you in advance 🦋🌻
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I have to do IV iron infusions because I can't take iron pills. I found that it did help with my energy and at the time my hair was actually falling out a bit, so the infusions help (this was before bariatric surgery). I can't imagine you should be taking a multivitamin with iron if you are getting iron infusions, but that's something to ask your doctor.
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I was 17 days late in August and when I went to my annual exam, my GYN explained that it's very likely from the weight loss I've had. He did mention to keep tracking them and if anything is continuing to be off, then he'll order testing to check for anything that could be the culprit. My next period was a week early, so I believe it has to do with the weight loss.
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Good luck to you! I'm 64, really glad I did the surgery, even considerding I'm a slow loser! A couple years back, I was already fluffy at 185 pounds, had to go on streoids for about 2 years and put on 40 pounds, All my labs went up! HGA1C was so high I was one pound away from being diabetic. I'm now normal blood sugar, cholestrol normal, off blood pressure meds, down 46 pounds. But at 9 months out I still need to lose another 20-30 pounds. I'd like to get down in the low 150s. This is not about looking good in a bikini but getting health again. I do not regret having the surgery at all. I wish I had done it sooner, but it does have to be the right time to put the time and energy into it. I do worry about the 15-20 pounds they say is normal to regain right after you hit the bottom weight. The hair loss that started at 3-4 months post op is slowing down, good thing becuase I only have so much hair.
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These are great videos! Thanks for sharing. I'm still 9 months out and trying to hit the 50 pound loss! I was down 47 pounds, was able to eat a few more carbs, but apparently ate way too many carbs and back up 2 pounds. I would love to lose another 25 pounds. For myself, I've had to re adjust my mind, get back to daily mediatation, I cant increase workouts from injuries, so I just keep doing what I'm doing there. I will cut back on carbs, increase my protein and go back to using the app to keep track of what I'm eating. Its so easy to fall off the wagon! Plus, my appetite is slowly coming back. Some days I'm eating 3 meals plus a snack. trying to have more salads and healthy soups. I don't think there is any easy way out, its always the same old thing, eat healthy proteins and low carbs, lots of vegtables. No processed foods. Easier said than done. It feels so overwhelming sometimes when I think about, what can I eat, what can't I eat, but it always comes back to the same thing. I wish you the best in your juorney to lose these extra pounds!
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Sounds yummy. If you can make it with spray pam instead of oil or butter it would be even better for you. Maybe a little cinnamon and sweetener. i like to make s’mores in banana boats. I use sugar free choc chips and almonds or pecans instead of graham crackers so the only bad thing really is the marshmallows. It’s still higher calories and not necessarily for weight loss phase but for maintenance for me it’s a healthy-ish alternative to s’mores Have you considered a bariatric therapist to try to get to the root of the head hunger. A lot of people swear that this has helped them tremendously.
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Hello all, I was wondering if any fellow Michiganders that have any tips on the best insurance for weight loss surgery. My employer has open enrollment and I’m thinking about switching insurances to a plan that has a shorter wait time for approval. My current plan is a year. Thanks
