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When everyone else is drinking
QueenOfTheTamazons replied to QueenOfTheTamazons's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
That comes across pretty harsh. My friends would never question my choices, but a well meaning coworker, or the spouse of my husband's boss, might get a little noisy. I am only looking for and offering up ideas for people who want to be part of a festive occastion without alcohol. Maybe they dont want questions or maybe they just want some ideas for beverages other than water or tea. Sometimes its easier to carry the proverbial solo cup. HW 385 SW 359 CW 338 Sleeved 10/5/16 -
When everyone else is drinking
Sai replied to QueenOfTheTamazons's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ice tea unsweetened with a gang load of lemon or lime. I have never liked alcohol so it's same ol' same ol' to me when I go to happy hour with a client and/or co-worker. -
When everyone else is drinking
blizair09 replied to QueenOfTheTamazons's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just drink water right now, but taking the Crystal Light Iced Tea to-go pack would make the water look like a brown-liquor drink if looking like you had an alcoholic drink was important... -
When everyone else is drinking
suzzzzz replied to QueenOfTheTamazons's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Nowadays I will usually have a glass of wine in social settings because I want one and enjoy it. If I don't want one, I order Water with extra lime. Prior to being allowed alcohol on my plan, water with lime. Maybe I am old but I don't feel the need to make an excuse for what I am eating or drinking or what I am not. Your non alcoholic mojito sounds good. If at a function or restaurant, a bartender can make many kinds of drinks and leave out the alcohol. -
When everyone else is drinking
cklasun replied to QueenOfTheTamazons's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sometimes I'd do water w lime in a low ball glass so it looks like vodka soda. I like the cranberry juice idea too, anything pink is assumed to be a cape cod! Honest I don't think it's that people care if you drink alcohol per say, it's as long as you have any drink you're ok....culturally, we feel like bad hostesses if someone doesn't have food or a drink bc we associate it w comfort. We want people around us comfortable especially when hosting a party. I'm likely skipping most parties this hear anyway, as I was just sleeved 11/4, but this is a great topic. -
Why are all "diet" supplements marketed like candy?
summerset replied to Didjit's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I don't agree. According to the advertisements alcohol free beer is supposed to be tasting just like the real stuff. I also think we should all keep in mind that advertisement companies don't have our well-being in mind. Their goal is to sell products. Some stuff sells, some stuff doesn't sell. Sex sells for example. So obviously does luscious chocolate. I personally don't mind that Celebrate Calcium chews chocolate and caramel don't taste like 100% crap. I don't know who thinks something like this tastes "exactly like candy" or something. I don't really like them, but at least I'm taking them without having to gag. There must be something wrong with the taste buds of people who can't taste the difference. Same goes for milkshakes and Protein shakes. Someone already mentioned protein brownies. If people want to be purists they can be. I don't mind. I personally prefer supplements that don't taste like "oh my god I have to turn off my taste buds to be able to swallow them". -
This confused me too because in Australia a no sugar added cordial is what you guys would probably call crystal lite. It is a no calorie flavour you add to Water. So I too was reading it wondering what all the talk about alcohol was for. To the OP I added a little sugar free lemon or lime juice to my water to keep my palate fresh and the nausea at bay. I still do add it sometimes ... depending on my mood. I haven't had any problems with losing weight even while still on insulin. I will say that my doctor took me off insulin last week .. and all of a sudden I dropped 3 kg in 5 days - which only goes to show insulin makes you retain Fluid and possibly fat as well.
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Why are all "diet" supplements marketed like candy?
Didjit replied to Didjit's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
It all just strikes me as a bad idea. You'd never market Water to an alcoholic that "tastes just like whiskey!" but here's a whole industry built around selling candy-ish bars to people struggling with weight as healthy food. That said, I'm planning on picking up a bunch of different powders and drinks later this week so I can taste-test before I begin the pre/post-op diets. -
Difficulty transitioning into puree, any advice pls.
atzvsg replied to Blessed74's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm 11 days post op. I had vsg in Mexico, my doctor didn't really give me a good plan, but my coordinator just told me 2 weeks of liquids, 2 weeks purée she said I should be able to eat almost everything except bread, alcohol, at thanksgiving, I've had yogurt egg drop Soup, chiken pea soup, jellos. What has I believed really helped my stomach is kiefer (probiotic) no flavor with a little honey and I feel like it's just helps I have had 2 very small bowel movement. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
QUESTIONS TO MY SURGEON
Alex Brecher replied to Missbeauty16's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
@@Missbeauty16, Great idea to brainstorm for questions to ask! You might ask: -How do I contact you for an urgent question during office hours? How do I contact you for an urgent question during off hours? -What are your rules about caffeine/alcohol/certain foods (anything that you have concerns about in your post-op life)? -What are some of the most common mistakes you see your patients make? -Which support group will I be attending? -How will you help prepare me for maintenance as I approach goal weight? -What does the support system look like in terms of a nutritionist and psychologist or counselor? -
A lot of it has to do with what your programs really prepare you for, I feel. I went through a very comprehensive program at Mayo Clinic, and a friend went through a very short program at a weight loss institution here in Phoenix and was under the knife in less than 2 months from his first visit. My process was a good deal longer and required four visits with a psychologist before they would clear you. Alcohol dependence was a big part of the discussions. The suggestion from the surgeon was at least a year, but the team basically said that it was all about balance. One every once in awhile was not going to harm you, as long as you are mindful about the rest of the things that go into your body (and NEVER drive after even one drink. Things hit us a lot faster and a lot more strongly after surgery). Living in NYC, I would drink often socially, but not to excess. Moving out to the desert, I went out maybe once or twice a month. I've had the occasional drink since surgery, but I'm mindful of how much and what I drink (a vodka and diet cran, normally) and I never feel the need to drink more, or more often. However, I know if I feel like I had the inclination to drink more or more often, I'd have to stop myself and make an appointment with the bariatric group, as I know this is a real concern among weight loss patients. So much of our successes (or failures) are due to not being mindful of the choices we make. The good thing is - the roadblocks that stand in our way ALWAYS have a detour.
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Not telling anyone. What do you say?
Miss Impala replied to Ssze1109's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
At first, i thought the same thing, I didn't want anyone to know. I felt so ashamed that I couldn't do this on my own. But eventually I worked thru it. I am quite surprised at how many are not saying anything? I can understand, but for me I have lived my entire life with shame and failure of diets and at first this was no different. My negative self talk included "i can't believe I couldnt do this on my own!" But I finally processed it and am now at a point as a food addict, that I refuse to allow food rule my life anymore. I refuse to allow myself to feel ashamed because I am doing something that has a prognosis of making my life better. Before becoming a truck driver and currently a Dispatcher, I came from the Medical field. Which has a different outlook on health, medication and surgeries. So that could be the reason I see this as an an opportunity to teach others how to stop themselves before they end up as a class 3 to 4 obese aka super obese person. I want to rub it into my employers face, whom I love and respect, but who specifically excludes weight loss surgery, but feel I need to make a point, that they will pay for rehab for a person who is a drug or alcohol addict, but not for a person who has dealt with an addiction to food even though they will pay for back surgery, the surgeries related to diabetes, the care and treatment for diabetic ulcers, kidney dialysis etc. I will not be ashamed to take advantage of something that has a more proven track record than medication. I didn't have much, but I had just enough in my retirement accounts to self pay for this DS surgery. But I looked at it this way, better to perform this act of self care with it, than to die before I can actually retire. I can't do it on my own. I have to have help. And that is ok. Because at some point in our life we will have to admit we need help, and at 44, I finally admitted it to myself. And I will gladly admit that to whoever is curious enough to ask. Sent from my SM-N930T using the BariatricPal App -
@@RJrocks, Replacement addictions are definitely a concern after weight loss surgery. The explanation is that if you are addicted to food and you use bariatric surgery to take food away, you become addicted to something else: whether negative such as alcohol, or positive such as exercise. When you said your surgeon said 1 in 10 patients becomes an alcoholic post-op, I thought that was crazy high! But then I found this: it may be the study he was referring to about alcohol use disorders (AUD). It says, “10.7 percent of patients reported symptoms of AUD” by 2 years post-op, and 1 in 8 had at least 3 drinks per day on a typical drinking day. The information is from the national Longitudinal Assessment of Bariatric Surgery (LABS) study. Wow. I had known that alcohol abuse could become a problem, but not that it was so common! If I were you, I would ask the surgeon which patients are more likely to develop alcohol abuse, and whether you have those characteristics. I am guessing that the patients who develop alcoholism after WLS are the ones who are addicted to food rather than just have poor eating habits, or who use food as an emotional crutch. If you use food for comfort or to hide your feelings, you might want to think hard about what you can use instead post-op (besides alcohol), and how you can address your feelings in healthier ways. Good luck!
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Hate sugar free stuff. What do I do?
Alex Brecher replied to Ssze1109's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@sze1109, You have gotten some good advice about going for savory Protein sources instead of sweet ones. You can add unflavored protein powder to broth or buy protein Soups while you are on your liquid diet. For fluids to stay hydrated, you can have Water plain or with lemon or lime juice or sprigs of mint, and decaf tea. Once you get to pureed foods, the sky is the limit! You can add unflavored protein powder to pureed canned green Beans and carrots, pureed watery mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes, and pureed cream of wheat or possibly oatmeal (ask your surgeon). You can also get protein from yogurt, pureed egg whites, pureed lean ground turkey or soy crumbles, and pureed tuna while still on the pureed foods diet. Another thought about sugar-free sweet options is to check the label to see which kinds of sweeteners are in the food or beverage. There are so many different kinds now, and it is possible that some, but not all, give you stomach troubles. If you want, you could try to sort out whether you might be able to handle sugar alcohols (not likely), aspartame, sucralose, monk fruit, stevia, or acesulfame potassium. Good luck! You can definitely succeed pre-op and post-op without artificial sweeteners or calorie-free sugar substitutes. -
I'm not looking for any judgement so if you're going to leave a rude comment, kindly exit this post. I'm 18 years old and getting banded in a couple months. I don't drink that often but when i do go out with friends we usually drink straight vodka from shot glasses. On an average night i have 8-9 shots since i have a pretty high tolerance. How long after lap band can i drink and when i do drink, how should i go about it? Since i'm not telling anyone about my surgery i don't want it to be obvious.... Again please no judgment, my drinking habits are nothing compared to some people my age and i think it's a genuine concern on how i should handle this responsibly. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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I'm sorry my question is because I am 5 days out and trying to get my Water in and finding it hard so was looking for something to add to the water I don't actually drink alcohol Sent from my HTC Desire 620 using the BariatricPal App
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I'm a little confused, where in her original post did she mention alcohol? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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No added sugar cordial ?
QueenOfTheTamazons replied to msfaybe's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
A cordial is not going to be a low glycemic index drink. Also, I didnt say that she was going to become an alcoholic. Transfer addictions can be alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, exercising, gambling, shopping etc. If she is newly post op and judging by the question its likely, and already asking about alcohol she can be opening herself up to a slippery slope. If nothing else, like for me, drinking can lead to noshing and then full out Taco Bell binges. HW 385 SW 359 CW 338 Sleeved 10/5/16 -
Oh poop I agree with being careful about not falling prey to no sugar added. It's a tricky thing to say the least. Once you're far enough out, if you want a cocktail then have one. Make sure it has low glycemic impact is all. It's fine to warn cautionary on addiction switches but not everyone is going down that road.... there are plenty, likely most, who will not fall victim to this. There are plenty of us here who can enjoy an occasional alcoholic beverage without needing to concurrently enroll in detox and AA programs. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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No added sugar cordial ?
QueenOfTheTamazons replied to msfaybe's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
How far postop are you? Why do you want to drink? My answer First, no added sugar is not sugar free. There might be a lot of natural sugar in whatever you are drinking, from the fruit and the alcohol. Low carb (during the weight loss phase at min) is the best way to keep the weight loss steady and to avoid triggers that lead to bad food descisions and regain. Second, its empty calories. You coukd easily spend 1/4 of your daily calories on just one drink. Third, most WLS patients have a much different tolerance for alcohol than they had preop. What once might have given you a mellow buzz might get you completely smashed. Fourth, its fairly easy (and not uncommon) for a WLS patient to exchange one addiction, food, for another, alcohol, and completely screw up their life again. HW 385 SW 359 CW 338 Sleeved 10/5/16 -
If you don't want to have booze or caffeine, order a sprite. I never drink on a first date anyway, and if they make an issue out of it, I know they aren't someone I'm going to be interested in. I'm 3 years out and I can't drink much alcohol without getting super drunk and I can't eat most food that is made with butter, oil, or cream, which largely eliminates dinner options. I stick to salad and diet coke on the first few dates, and the men who are the type of people I would actually like have the social skills to know that one does not comment on what a woman eats or drinks on the first date. You don't need to have an excuse for why you aren't drinking booze or eating crap, and if you feel like you need to provide one, for me that would be an indicator that I probably wouldn't like the person very much if I got to know them better anyway.
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Hate sugar free stuff. What do I do?
Hammer_Down replied to Ssze1109's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I totally 100% agree with you about the gateway principles. I was given morphine and fentanyl during my surgery, and while I felt euphoric at the time, I don't plan to pursue a career as an opiate addict, either. The problem for me, is that I am already a food addict. I am in food rehab now, and no one would suggest to a alcoholic that having a glass of wine for a special occasion is ok, or to an opiate addict that just a little shot is fine on your birthday, but don't let it get out of hand. For reformed smokers to go ahead and have a smoke at the game, just don't buy anymore on your way home. We all got to be overweight because of or disordered eating and food addictions. Eventually, the restriction in a sleeve will only do so much and people can, and often do, eat around their sleeve and regain weight. The first few years post op is your time to straighten up, and prepare for the rest of your life without the food that made you fat and sick to begin with, or face being one of statistics whose diabetes returns, weight returns, heart disease return surgery and is facing being "resleeved" or worse. Inability to acknowledge or recognize addiction IS the face of addiction. -
What are you success tools?
Dairymary replied to show1980's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
PS. I reread my answer and realized I forgot to post the obvious answer....eating a healthy, bariatric friendly diet. 80+ grams Protein, lots of low glycemic veggies, some fruits and whole grains. Minimizing (but not completely eliminating) high cal/low nutritive stuff like Pasta and bread and simple carbs like Desserts, candy and alcohol. Those last three are for my mental health, not my physical health In the end, how you eat to lose your weight is more or less how you need to eat in order to maintain. This commitment is forever, folks! -
Did I actually have surgery?
mipookiebear replied to onelasttime's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am 6 weeks out & had same problem when I started eating soft foods. But you will start to lose again. I also measure foods & can't quite feel that I am full. I just stop eating. The only problem I get is a stomach ache after some meals & can't figure out if I ate too much. Usually eat 1/2 cup or less. I haven't had any problems with foods except eggs & sugar alcohols from sugar free products. -
Hate sugar free stuff. What do I do?
Butterflywarrior replied to Ssze1109's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
yes, I'm aware that the pancreas still produces insulin in reaction to anything sugar or sugar like. I was merely responding to the posters response that they were using stevia but stopped bc they didn't want anything artificial or fake ... And, for me since I'm also allergic to artificial sweeteners, I'm pleased to have Protein powder flavors sweetened with stevia for variety. So far, tge unflavored Isopure experience is nasty! Also, stevia is so potent, you need very small amounts of it so that is probably a positive thing but that's just a opinion not necessarily a fact lol The problem with this logic is that simply coming from a plant and thus not being artificial doesn't necessarily mean we should be filling up on it. Sugar comes from a plant, too. Splenda is simply a modified sucrose molecule, thus it is technically plant based as well. Cocaine is made from cocoa leaves, heroin is made from poppy seeds and alcohol will form in the bottom of your trash can if it's left out long enough with any plant based material in it. Eating sweet foods, regardless of how abd whybthey are sweet causes cravings for sweet foods. Diet Coke contains no sugar, yet it promotes a response from your pancreas similar to regular Coke. Your brain perceives sweetness and prepares for an onslaught of sugar, even if there is none.
