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Urban Legends Here?
mumof2boys replied to yellowroseaz's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't know about "Urban Legends", but I think that everyones experience with the band is different. Some people have complications, some don't. Some folks have a hard time with the band (PB a lot), some don't. I think that it's up to each and every individual. I would hope that folks don't come on here and tell untrue stories, but...we can't be blind to the fact that there are people out there that do such a thing. Good luck! -
I've been doing yoga for years and have just begun to get into some serious poses and wonder how and if the band will affect my flow. My Yoga instructor suggested I should be concerned once Im banded if I were to do any inversions or complicated poses because she said your organs shift in some positions. So Im wondering would the band prevent me from getting really seriously into Yoga? When I asked my Dr. he said he didnt know. Does anyone here have a serious commited daily practice? and has the band had any ill effects on thier flow? Do they feel limited in any ways by the band? Any advice or opinions greatly appreciated as well as if anyone is interested I'd love to have this be an ongoing thread about Yoga and aspirring yogis. Namaste
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Hi everyone! I am new to the site and just found out today that I am approved for the lap band.....I am very excited....and nervous. I have been looking at the post on "complications" and I guess it has got me somewhat worried. It would be horrible to have to have your band removed, but I still think that the band is the best choice for me. I would appreciate any advice anyone has to give! Thanks
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Lap band or sleeve? Why did you get revision to sleeve?
2muchfun replied to okaykay's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
No one disrespected you so you can drop the feigned indignation. I was calling you out on this statement. "The problem with those who experience failure or complications isn't the failure to comply or keep the band a bit on the loose side. The very concept of the band is flawed" Your link to Allergan doesn't support your statement or your opinion. This thread has turned into another band bashing tirade. I can't let unsubstantiated remarks go unanswered. You can have your opinion but don't present it as facts. Please? -
Lap band or sleeve? Why did you get revision to sleeve?
knitlil09 replied to okaykay's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I originally had a lap band, and now have a sleeve as of earlier this month. I had severe complications with my band and eventually had to have it removed. Toward the end, there wasn't a single day I didn't throw up. I didn't know it at the time, but the lap band has a very high complication rate and many doctors have stopped doing it all together. It's a personally preference, and there is a chance that you will be one of the lucky ones to not have complications with the band, but maybe not. On my way! Thing you might want to consider is that many insurance companies will only pay for one wl surgery per lifetime. Why would you want a surgery that's reversible? -
Lap band or sleeve? Why did you get revision to sleeve?
CowgirlJane replied to okaykay's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
The problem I have with the study on re operations and complications is that it doesn't define the criteria or time frame. I personally, in real life, know many bandsters including myself, and the complication and re operation rates over the long haul is much much higher than the article states. While I realize that my social circle does not constitute a scientific study something just does not seem right The word "complications" means different things to different people. While death rates are surely higher for sleeve and bypass I don't believe at all that complication rates are higher. I think that article understates it for all actually. I read a study a few years back that 30% of sleevers develop reflux. Many of them at around the 3 year mark. In my mind that is a complication. I know that over the 5-10 year time frame the band has an even higher complication rate. To me the moral of the story is that WLS is no cake walk and really should not be done unless all other avenues have been exhausted. They all come with risks AND different "odds of success". Any individual can either exceed or fall short of those statistics but the excess weight loss stats do sorta paint the picture. For me what the stats don't really capture is quality of life for some people's (apparently not all). Example, I spent a decade where a few tastes of rice would send me vomiting even though ALL of that decade I was morbidly obese. I hit my lifetime highest weight while banded, never got under 200# , experienced alot of pain and vomiting, poor medical care and I really really developed hatred toward the port. I had a lot of self loathing over the topic because I felt like all my band issues were caused by me. I even saw that in this thread. ..essentially that "compliant" patients don't have issues with the band. I no longer believe that statement. .or to put it another way.. I didn't get to weighing twice what an average male should weigh by being consistently compliant with ANY THING! I needed WLS to learn those skills and the band just did not deliver the promises a and was not an effective tool for me. And it was embarrassing to vomit which while infrequent with no fill still happened! Since my revision to the sleeve I have just felt normal (after about 3-6 months post op) and am so far maintaining a massive weight loss...went from a BMI over 50 to my current of around 23. -
Lap band or sleeve? Why did you get revision to sleeve?
JustWatchMe replied to okaykay's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Fair enough. I am a noob myself. The more I learn, the more I learn I need to learn. Bottom line is I won't ignore these symptoms, since complications scare me more than regaining does. -
Introduction: Fat even when I was skinny...
Comfy_Blue posted a topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Howdy, My name's Blue and I've always felt fat even when I was skinny. Back in high school, I weighed 140lbs (I'm 5'7), but I thought I was fat because my two best friends at the time were teeny, tiny. One wore a size 00 (Extra, Extra Small) and the other a 0 (X-Small), whereas I thought I looked like a beached whale in my size 8/10. In addition to self esteem issues, I suffered from untreated OCD most of my life which contributed to my 100lbs weight gain over the last decade. I know the LB is not a magical cure and the hardest part is going to be retraining my brain not to reach for food as a comfort (and not to replace food with another vice like excessive drinking, gambling, shopping, etc). I am fearful of choosing the wrong doctor and the incision getting infected and/or having some weird complication that threatens my life or possibly kills me. HOWEVER, if I continue on the path I am now, then my own body will be my executitioner. Right now, I am in the planning phases. I've been researching online for a LB surgeon in my area so I can get in initial consultation. One of my friends had the procedure done in another state, so I'm thinking about asking who did hers. A little non weight stuff about me - I'm 29 years old, a classroom teacher, and the wife of an amazing man. I'm kind of artsy-fartsy and though I can't draw very well, I appreciate art and enjoy seeing it in books, museums and exihibits. I'm always reading and want to publish a novel someday soon. I listen to a varity of music (rock and roll, alternative, punk, classical, New Age, pop, etc). I watch more t.v. than I should, am a Christian who believes heavily in karma and good vibes and I like going to the movies, dinner, road trips and shopping. -
I just had GPS with Dr Watkins on Jan 19, 2011 and was able to go home 6 Hrs after surgery with no complications. I am 4 days Post Op and have some discomfort while trying to drink on the left side of chest more frustrating than painful, I believe this will fade as I learn to slow down and SIP. I feel like a New Person already experiencing somethings I havent in a long time scratching my lower back LOL. I Never thought I would be a Forum Person but I am on here a couple times a day and sure glad for the post as detailed as yours when I am playing Head Games with myself. Cant say THANKS ENOUGH.
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2 weeks pre-surgery....very nervous reading some of the posts
LittleLizzieLilliput replied to ~Primrose~'s topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
A majority of the people who have the surgery are trouble free. The loudest of us are those few who are suffering post surgical complications. You are gonna do great!!! -
Fee For Dietician And Psych. Consults?
Amanda 3.0 replied to Tana_Q's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with circa. While weight loss surgery is certainly a money-making industry, there are a lot of people who have no idea what they are doing regarding the surgery, who live in denial of how they got in the situation they are in, and let's face it, not everyone out there is a rocket scientist. No surgeon wants to have a failure like a death or complications on his/her record, or that malpractice suit to defend. Many overweight people have psychological reasons for overeating, and I think those need to be addressed. I appreciate the psychiatric component of the prerequisites. I have found the extensive presurgical process to be extremely helpful. I read some of the situations posted around the internet by people who have had this surgery and I think to myself that these people must have not had a very good preparation, if they are having certain issues and surprises. -
Lap band or sleeve? Why did you get revision to sleeve?
2muchfun replied to okaykay's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
This is your own opinion and has no basis in fact. You're still grinding your ax here even though your band failure was surgeon induced. Please provide your proof to document your assertion? I believe that most people who fail with the band do so through lack of compliance. Sure, there may be a few who fall into your little niche but people fail with any WLS and most of it is due to lack of compliance. However, compliance is more crucial with the band. Non compliance can create a multitude of serious complications that you won't see with the other WLS. And there is no doubt that our bodies can reject the band, the port and the eating protocols we have to live with. What % is unknown but it's probably at least 33% of the failures. I think most all recently banded patients are aware of the serious consequences of WLS, all WLS. But there happens to be a segment of this patient population who do not want their guts rearranged. Without the band, thousands of this niche, would continue to yo-yo diet till they die an early death. Thanks Heavens for the band. -
I don't want to alarm or discourage you, but I am 6 months out and still have bouts of horrible acid. Going this week to see my surgeon about GERD or whatever is going on. I would keep taking whatever PPI has been prescribed to you and it should manage fine. I was a band to sleeve conversion with some complications so I don't believe my situation is common for everyone.
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Complications
tryingtohelpmymother replied to tryingtohelpmymother's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
My mother has been been in the hospital for 4 weeks and had been fighting for her life it has went from one extreme to the other. The hospital said they have been seeing frequent complications from patients having this procedure in Mexico and don't recommend it be done. Her small intestine was nicked and infection had set up, she has had several procedures and surgeries done as a result of this complication she even stopped breathing for 3 minutes but through this all God has her protected. -
I may start a contorversy...but here goes
Kat817 replied to Janine's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When at home, I have a choice, and use different things---silly I know!!! In my iced tea, I like sweet & low---in my cereal, I like sugar, and I do some of my baking with Splenda!!! If I go to my inlaws, it is Splenda in everything. My folks house the same. If I am drinking tea at my best friends, it is pre sweetened with sugar. My favorite Mexican restaurant, has sugar or Equal, so I just grab whatever!!! I believe too much of anything is probably not good for you. I drink mostly water---plain filtered, through the door of my fridge water! But try to live by the "all things in moderation" plan!!! As for the eating so early following the band. I was given an explanation of why NOT to do it, that made perfectly good sense to me. I followed my Dr.'s recommendations for clear liquids, then for full liquids, and even the mushies almost---I jumped the gun by a couple of days with the change from mushies, and had a few bites of enchiladas---which were almost mushie!!! The reasons not to eat were good ones, and were for my own good, my overall health and the health of my band. I have seen Dr.'s who I thought had super strict eating restrictions, and I would have felt the need to ask "why?"---but in this case, he explained the why---and I listened. He explained many, many things. Mine was not an in and out, wham, bam, thank you Ma'am. I felt fully informed, and ready to care for both myself and my band before I left the hospital. I hope jubjub that you do fine, because sadly if you don't---it is the stats on the band that go into the dumpster---because YOU couldn't follow the recommended dietary restrictions. Then when future bandsters look into it, you cause them undo worries. We get lots of newbies or researchers coming to this site, asking if there are lots of complications, they deserve to know stats on banding---but when one fails from user abuse, it still is a failure. Kat -
need some positive reassurance plz
vickyd replied to britgirl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree that you should do your research - and part of that is coming on here and hearing the experiences of people with the lap band. You will find that there are a lot of different opinions about it. It works great for some people and for others it never quite works as promised. One thing I can tell you is that the people who have had GBP (and have never had the band) can only speak about what they have heard...they are not speaking from experience. For example, the support group I attend is for all WLS patients but until I joined there were no lap band patients, only GBP and sleeve. I found that they were extremely outspoken that everyone should do their type of surgery to the point that when a person interested in getting banded attended our meeting they pulled him aside in an effort to convince him that the band wouldn't work for him. I was a bit shocked by this and made sure that I told him about my experience and suggested to him that he needed to research the various types of WLS and choose what was best for him. Now that I have been a part of this group for a while and they have gotten to know me, whenever someone comes in who is interested in the band, they send them to talk to me. They are also amazed at how fast I am losing - there is a member of the group who had GBP a couple of weeks after I was banded and my weight loss is on track with hers. All types of WLS have the risk of complications but studies have shown that although GBP patients lose weight faster at the beginning, when you look at long-term weight loss the methods are comparable. For me, I did not want to have a procedure that would alter my internal organs so I chose the band...it is what works for me...you need to decide what will work best for you. Good Luck! -
Greetings!! Researching Pros And Cons...
TexasDy posted a topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hi... I do not have the band nor scheduled my surgery, yet. It's a huge step that I want to take but am more than a little nervous about. A little about me - I'm 26, 5'9" 335lbs, married to an amazing man and my best friend for 2.5 years, photographer, biker, no kids yet just animals - a pug, a cat, and 2 birds =) that's me in a nutshell! My husband and I went to a band-consultation together - with him thinking "let's do it" and me thinking "i don't know". Afterwards, we traded opinions. For now, we've decided, if we move forward, it will be for me alone and he will probably do it at a later time. My hesitation now is that I did what I was advised to do... research the good and the bad. The good is, of course, amazing - the perfect partner to help you achieve your goals. The bad... is pretty bad - worse than what the patient advocate described. The doctor and band related complications are terrifying by themselves. But also the possibility of causing problems by not sticking to the program - WOW!! I'm looking at this b/c I've tried to lose weight on my own and can't. How is this really going to be any different? Now, if I get off my diet, I gain the weight back (with all the future illnesses that can cause). With the band, if I don't do exactly what I'm supposed to do... I could cause all kinds of damage to my body, be completely miserable, have projectile vomit, get malnourished, and so many other things. For now, I don't know what we will ultimately decide. But I'm very glad I found this site. It's extremely helpful. -
my band is very tight all of a sudden starting yesterday. I dont know if it pg hormones or what. I havent really pb except today and some yesterday. I am having trouble getting liquids down even. I had really had heartburn before that for a few days. I am going to call and see if I can get an unfill tomorrow. I didnt want to get unfilled this early in the pg! that is such a bummer. I am so worried about gaining too much and having complications with the baby! I dont think I can do anything about it though I have get some of this out. Its terrible I am starving but I cant eat! Anyone else have this??
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Urban Legends Here?
snowbird replied to yellowroseaz's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
PB is productive burping, when you eat too fast, too much, or the wrong thing and it cannot pass through the stoma, or small opening to your lower stomach that is created by the band. It is sort of "mini-vomiting" as you bring up the excess food and mucus in your upper stomach. Gross, but not as bad as real puking. "Trolls" are people who like to get in a message board and post messages that alarm, offend, or frighten the regular users of the board. You can usually tell them because they make the one post and are never heard of again. They like to spread fear and havoc and then stand back and watch the "fun." They show up here just as they do on a lot of other boards. There are contributors who have truly suffered complications with their band, and I'm not talking about them! The band is surgery, and a small percentage of people do have serious complications with it. -
My surgery is tommorow and my anxiety is peaking in fear of complications. I have had some pretty horrible events occur in my lifetime and am afraid im going to be the special case with dominoing complications. Please let me know how you got past the anxiety.
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Not always. Sometimes doctors go into the surgery knowing that only one child can be saved. Doctors are not nearly as emotional about this stuff as you and I. An abortion that results in a living, breathing baby is considered a "complication" and generally there is no attempt to save the infant. I had no part in making this choice, nor would I have wanted any. And none of them (two boys and a girl) are more "worthy" than their siblings. I never gave a moment's thought to whether this young couple did the right thing by choosing not to "reduce" their pregnancy. It was THEIR choice - not mine. I prayed that the Lord would give them the strength and wisdom to make the right decision - that's all. And I think He did...but I would not have beat them over the head with my own values and beliefs had they chosen otherwise.
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I may start a contorversy...but here goes
spldgrl replied to Janine's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
wow, this thread went crazy for awhile. I';ve been banded for almost 2 years. I too like jubjub did not follow the exact post surgery liquid diet. due to complications with MY body, I was puking blood caused by too much stomach acid and no solid foods to settle it down. Idid not go crazy, mashed potatoes really liquidy, leading up to pinto beans from taco bell mushed up. it saved me. I hav enot had erosion, slippage, no complications and to date have lost well over 100 lbs and 12 clothing sizes. I think the biggest isuue here need to be what we know about our bodies. Yes, your doc know about the band but every person every body with the band is different. Some docs of patients on this site have no pre-surgery diet, mine did, some have 4 weeks post, mine 2 weeks, then adjusted due to the puking blood. every doc is different and they were all "trained" by inamed so whos to say. my doc said at fills 24hrs. liquid, new doc (original moved out of state) said no liquid just be careful, and the later is the most experienced of the two. so.... lets not get so judmental of others, one day, jubjub may be in the 100lb loss club and you wont be who knows??? what I do know is the jumping her crap, is wrong and whoever said she wasnt a good canidate or doing the right things with her band and her body, shame on you , carma is what it is, one day you might regret your bitterness towards her. just my two cents worth, ok not even 2 cents but my opinion. good luck to everyone on this site in the weightloss journey! If we knew it all, we wouldnt need surgery in the first place. -
Severely depressed after mini gastric bypass
lovemypouchjudi replied to mmy's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I haven't had any complications with my gastric bypass. I am 1 yes post op down 134 lbs. my daughter is getting surgery this month. We have a blog call Lovemypouch.com Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
I heard you can only fast if your Good but if u have a health problem you don't have to fast .. Health first u don't want something to happen and leads to more complications
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CONTRAVE - med newly approved by FDA Sept 2014
utahgirll replied to utahgirll's topic in GLP-1 & Other Weight Loss Medications (NEW!)
Hi there B52, MANY people come to this website to look at the POSSIBILITY of surgery, to research questions and to look at complications as well as the positive results of wl surgery. This website is here to answer those questions, assist us in making decisions, help us bond with each other, and for me, after researching here and seeing here, the complications from the surgical methods of weight loss, this website also suggests other possibilities besides surgery. Haven't you seen many that are here on this website for information and questions about surgery, PRIOR to their surgery? I see many. I am one of them. With your completed surgery, you don't need BOTH surgery and other alternatives, but many people here, after reading complications, problems and issues others are having with their surgeries might want to consider alternative, less invasive bariatric methods of losing their weight. All the methods I have listed and others have listed, including medications, ARE A PART of and under the BARIATRIC HEADING of methods our bariatric doctors use for those wanting to consider weight loss. Some of these methods are experimental in the USA, and some of them are not, but personally, I think it important for everyone to look at what is out there as alternatives, before actually making that permanent surgical step of a major surgery. Not many places on the internet provide you a comprehensive place to look not only at the different bariatric surgeries available, but also the medications and other, less invasive methods of bariatric weight loss. One of the admired bariatric doctors said it himself quite succinctly, that in time, these surgical methods will be considered very primitive and the newer non-invasive medical procedures will be used instead.