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Drinking alcohol with band
Kitty86 replied to madison.alvarez's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My doc told me no alcohol for 1 year. But of course I knew I would not follow that. At 3 weeks out I had 2 glasses of wine and was fine. at 4-5 weeks out I had some mixed drinks with vodka. Yes, as you lose weight your tolerance will lessen and of course if you aren't eating much then you will absorb the alcohol faster. Alcohol is also a blood thinner so in the early stages you do have a slight risk of internal bleeding if things aren't completely healed. For the most part, In all honesty I'm sure you be fine with a few shots. I would just drink them slowly (like as in spaced out) and drink Water in between and just try to be aware if anything feels too 'off'. FYI - I used to drink beer or 'bombs' (shots with carbonation, usually redbull) with my girlfriends when we go out. I didn't want to tell them about my band yet so last time I went out I just said I wasn't drinking anything carbonated because "it has been giving me heartburn lately". It's not totally a lie because if I even take a sip of something carbonated I get terrible chest pain! Best of luck to you! Enjoy your time and be safe! -
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Martha Parker-mcneal replied to ahipchik1965's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
just because you can not have the alcohol does not mean you can not drink. lots of really pretty fruity drinks out there and no one but you will know that's what alcoholics do find something they love without the alcohol -
The first time I tried alcohol after GB was 2 years post op. I could have after 1 year but chose to hold off. Now, I love having wine when I go out. You must be very careful when you do because following bypass, just a few sips and you can feel it. A whole glass has me at the tipping point. My surgeon actually made me sign a contract that I would not touch the stuff for a minimum of 1 year post op. This is just me but I would be concerned that you are not fully healed yet and would abstain for now. Not sure what the alcohol could do to your new pouch. Most of the wait is because they do not want anyone transferring food addiction to alcohol and it is very very common after WLS. I can honestly say I never used to think about drinking and did it rarely, now I love a glass and sometimes two every time I go out for dinner. I could see how it could become a problem but am watching it closely.
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Hi. I'm just 5 weeks post-op. My NUT said not to have alcohol for about a year out. Just wondering if anyone with GB has tried drinking alcohol earlier than a year out, and what kind of reactions you've had. Thanks. It's the holidays and everyone's drinking at parties, and just was thinking about having a sip.
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The carbs and sugary food are what is making you hungry. It also doesn't engage your restriction, so you can eat a lot of them. No one like to hear this, but you have to stop eating them, all of them, immediately. Take three days and eat nothing but lean, unprocessed meat (no sausage, bacon, deli meat, salami, jerky), eggs, green veggies, and healthy fats (olive oil and grass-fed butter. Eat as much as you want, whenever you want, but eat only those things. This will help you kick the cravings for carbs and sugar. You also won't ever feel true hunger as you get to eat as much as you want, whenever you want. So, you will learn to distinguish true hunger from head hunger/cravings. Also, even eating as much as you want, you won't gain weight and will likely lose. After those three days, keep eating that way for two days but get (or revive) a myfitnesspal.com account and start tracking your intake. After those next two days, add in modest amounts of dairy, fruit, nuts, and beans/legumes. Set a calorie goal for yourself -- I would think you will lose weight at 1500 calories -- and stick to it. Avoid grains, starchy veggies (potatoes, peas, corn, sweet potatoes, lima beans), sweets, liquid calories, and alcohol. Stick to your calorie goal. You absolutely can do this, I promise. 25 lbs may seem like a lot but it really isn't that much to take back off. I have done it before and I know you can too. Good luck!
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For people who really enjoy drinking you need to be careful because weight loss patients have significantly higher rates of alcoholism, especially if there is a family history of that. it puts you at a much greater risk. Almost every on line article about this came Rom the same small (and IMO flawed) study. The belief that WLS patients have a higher risk of alcoholism than anyone else is not so cut and dry. It's true that people who overcome one addiction, be it food, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, shopping or even religion or exercise, are more at risk for a new addiction. However, the actual number of people who have WLS with no previous history of alcohol abuse is small. People who enjoy drinking alcohol are not always alcoholicc. And, like many obese people who don't enjoy eating, many alcoholics don't actually get much pleasure out of drinking.
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Addiction is REAL!! Be it food, alcohol, sex, shopping whatever is real!! Cross addiction happens to many after WLS. For sure. My hubby was hoping and praying that I would have SEX as my cross-addiction!! NOPE didn't happen, now shopping watch out. LOL All joking aside, I had a very hard time justifying going out to eat!! I felt the same about cooking because when you can only eat a few bites it was hard!! Notice I said WAS. My hubby has said all along that I should look towards QUALITY, not QUANTITY!!! It was such a SMART thing to say!! I'm not saying that I'm like all cured of the examples above but it is much better. Now I am not a fancy foodie I was just raised on the OL SOUTH GOOD FOOD!! But, I can deal with having them ever once and awhile. Heck, one of y very favorite meals could more than likely cause most of you foodies to go into a swift HEART ATTACK!! LOL My old fav used to be fried potatoes, Mac and cheese, corn and a buttered piece of Wheat bread (the bread was more than likely the healthiest part of the meal) of course even if I fixed it I wouldn't be able to eat but a few bites. LOL Just a thought. Oh, BTW I always loved a cold beer before my WLS now I like wine. Does that make me more sophisticated? Just kiddin
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I'm scheduled for 2/13/17. My first appointment was back on 10/13. After that appointment, I stopped snacking and drinking alcohol. I started using MyFitnessPal to track calories. I managed to lose a quick 30 pounds in two months. The first 30 lbs is always the easiest to lose and the quickest to regain. I figured that I'll lose the "easy" weight on my own and then get help from the sleeve to finish the job. I hope to have lost 50 lbs before the time of surgery.
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i also forgot to talk about drinking. post surgery i don't drink. frankly after the band surgery i had reflux and the last thing i wanted to do to my burning stomach is add alcohol. I'm on prevacid post bypass and have no desired to test my tummy with alcohol. that I can live without. For people who really enjoy drinking you need to be careful because weight loss patients have significantly higher rates of alcoholism, especially if there is a family history of that. it puts you at a much greater risk.
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I forgot to add- regarding drinking. Before surgery I loved wine. I still do, but less. I will have a good quality dry wine, maybe one glass every few days in the evening. I just don't want it like before. Also, your tolerance for alcohol goes way down so you will get intoxicated from a fraction of what you were used to. I echo the sentiments so many have said here: Quality over quantity post-op.
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Use an alcohol pad before you apply if you moisturize so they stick well! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using the BariatricPal App
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I put on coconut oil after every shower (going with the Bahamas theme) ???? so would they still stick if I cleaned the area off with some rubbing alcohol. Sent from my Y538 using the BariatricPal App
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I was a HUGE foodie (no pun intended!) pre-op, and I think the sleeved life lends itself to being a foodie, honestly. For me, I'm eating what I want (minus tons of carbs, but I hardly miss all of that) but just in a vastly reduced volume, which doesn't change my enjoyment of food. My surgical program is all about Protein, fats and eating satisfying food; before, when I would do Weight Watchers or whatever the diet du jour was, I'd have to cut out fats and basically anything with taste or staying power...then I'd fail because my diet was so boring and spartan. I think you'll find that you can still enjoy the things you enjoy now, but it won't be the drive for volume that it used to be...in a way that makes us REAL foodies, since it's all about the taste now. The alcohol is a different topic and one that brings about many different opinions. My team goes at this one as a moderation vs a removal from your life. Of course, if it's a problem for you, that's a whole other thing, but I was cleared for alcohol consumption when I was cleared to a full diet. I have a little wine or a few sips of beer, but I don't enjoy either as much as I used to and I do have to count them as carbs. Good luck, and I think it's great that you're looking at yourself and your food lifestyle this critically
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The NUTS in m Bariatric Center say that foodies do very well after WLS. We foodies love food and know it, you'd be amazed at how many overweight people deny their love of food or actually consider food their enemy. As for me. I am 7 weeks post sleeve. Mostly solid food but red meat still doesn't go down well. About 600 calories, 25 grams of carbs. I am not hungry so that's plenty to get a taste of everything but desert when we go out and tasty small meals at home. We eat out 3 sometimes 4 times a week. My surgeon said I could try alcohol and I has a sip of wine last week but seem to have no taste for it right now. I get 8 oz coffee drinks (instead of 20 oz) and drink about 4 oz before I am done. I use heavy cream in coffee at home because it is lower in carbs and I don't have a restriction on fat. I expect that at some point I will allow myself some sweets but right now I want to loose weight more that I want chocolate. My hope is that I will be able to decide ahead of time that I will eat a certain food instead of impulsivity eating then regretted. I took a weekly, six month "lifestyle" class before surgery that has really helped my understand my eating issues and, so far, it has really helped me choose between short term pleasure and long term gain.
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I agree that people should get a pass for making a mistake or three or ten. However the post operative diet is a prescription not a suggestion. If you had a friend who doubled up on their blood pressure medications or washing down a medication that has "DO NOT USE ALCOHOL WHILE TAKES NG THIS MEDICATION " written boldly that n the bottle what kind of friend would you be if you ignored it? Beautiful Diamond, one of the reasons that WLS has such a high "failure" rate is due to the behavior you described. Your friend needs counseling/treatment for her food issues. Instead of calling her out on her behavior can you meet up and talk while she isn't actively sabotaging herself. Tell her you are worried and talk to her about your concerns. And GOOD LUCK to you. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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How long did you leave it before you tried alcohol? I'd like a drink at Xmas, I'll only be 4 weeks post sleeve though... Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App
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What did you replace food with?
OKCPirate replied to SlimJill's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@SlimJill - talk to your doctor about this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697760/ Naltesone seems to help with compulsive behaviors. If you use it for a season to get on stable ground, when you get off of it, try to add in some positive things like sex, exercise etc. I also suggest this book: https://www.amazon.com/Emotional-First-Aid-Kit-Practical/dp/0976852659/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481661627&sr=8-1&keywords=the+emotional+first+aid. I worked through it before my surgery, but it still works on the other side. The danger is without a positive alternative, it is easy to transfer addictions to something negative. (drugs, alcohol, gambling) I'm not suggesting the struggle is easy, but the battle is one you can win. -
What did you replace food with?
_Kate_ replied to SlimJill's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Alcohol.. but after hitting rock bottom, I slapped myself around a bit then stopped. I wish I could have a drink every now and again but I cant. For me its better that it's never. Kate -
I still grapple with food addiction. I was never one for alcohol or drugs (not even prescribed sleeping drugs). I have a hard time sleeping, but when I ate a big meal, I'd sleep like a baby, hence food became my comfort, my relaxer, my natural sleeping pill. Like any addiction, it is difficult to overcome. Since wls, like you said, it's better, but we just have to stay focused to be successful. Sent from my SM-N910V using the BariatricPal App
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They are a treat. The "net carbs" crap in nonsense and will stall weight loss. Maybe best avoided till maintenance. Lots of people get diarrhea from alcohol sugar. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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They have sugar alcohols and too many make me go to much.... Just an occasional treat for me.
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I don't know if they make people dump, but they're hard on a lot of people's stomachs. They're in my SF popsicles. I can't eat more than two SF popsicles because the sugar alcohols start doing a number on my stomach if I have more than that
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I was told to watch out for the sugar alcohols as well Sent from my LGMS631 using the BariatricPal App
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Hello all! I am curious as to how those sugar free Chocolates go down? Do you experience dumping syndrome even with sugar alcohols? Is there an acceptable amount of carbs in these types of treats? I appreciate the advice! Thanks Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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What did you replace food with?
ayahbesleeved replied to SlimJill's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think this is my main struggle too. food addiction is hard to deal with bc it's like an alcoholic being told to have one drink a day. But I think exercise, writing, journaling, art, talking to friends. I think the main thing is recognizing your emotion when you're stressed or upset and want to eat and choosing to channel it. Just take a second when you're feeling the urge to eat and think about how ur body is feeling and how ur mind is feeling and parse out what the emotion is. If it's not actually hunger, think of alternative actions that u can take that aren't food. It takes a looong time to be able to do this consistently but keep at it Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
