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Ok, so for one, veggies are pretty sliderish for me. And I can eat about 1 1/4c of food. So let's just pretend my protein goal at ideal weight (120lbs or 54kg) for a 5'4" completely average woman (defined by insurance charts used in WLS to compute data) is 65g of protein per day. 54kg X 1.2g protein/kg of ideal body weight = 65g of protein (needed to maintain optimal health) for light activity. 65g protein / 7g per ounce of weight on average = 9.3oz of dense protein by weight So now I know about "how many ounces" of protein are needed to make my protein goal. If I'm having a protein drink or protein drink as a coffee creamer, it makes things even easier. On days I do IF, I will often use a protein drink to up my protein levels toward my goal. I will eat 3oz of protein at a meal which makes about 2/3-3/4cup of food. And, I fill the rest with veggies to about 1 to 1.25cups of food. I'm getting in 1-2 eating windows--each lasting about 90 minutes. So I might begin the eating window with a cup of veggies (salad, raw veg, or cooked veg) + healthy fat and cuz they are sliderish, then I will easily get them down and out of me within about 30-40 minutes without much rise in insulin and almost no rise in bgs. I adore broth with leafy greens and mushrooms, or salads, or raw veggies with avocado/yogurt dip (Green Goddess). Then at the last 30 minutes of my eating window, I will eat my complex meal of protein + veg + healthy fat and can eat the full 1 to 1.25 cups of food at that time. I make my totals most days. The days I don't, I rely on autophagy to swoop in and save the day. By doing this I'm usually able to get close to 16oz of veg per day (12-16oz) + 9oz protein.
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And you may discover things later you never liked that you do now. And perhaps they will stay down where these things don't. I still have trouble with Greek Yogurt, cottage cheese and bananas and I'm 7 months past surgery. And all 3 were go-to prior to surgery, so I do miss them.
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How can we help? Almost all of us have survived the liver shrinking/ preop liquid diet, although it is no fun it does get you prepared. I did the entire month of August 2018, lost 15 pounds, made my liver sleek smooth and healthy, and I believe that was a good part of why my surgery was so pain-free and I did so well. No gas , almost none of the Bad things you read of on here.It does get you used to liquids and you will certainly be on them after surgery. They to find ones you can stand the taste of, also there are protein waters you can try. My current fab flavor is Ensure High Protein Strawberry , for various reasons, although I am 7 months out I still have at least 1 a day. Anyway it tastes just like Strawberry Quik to me. Many like Premiere Protein,or Muscle Milk, I used to like the Blueberry Greek Yogurt flavor. Some like Atkins, I didn't that much. I am hindered because I am allergic to chocolate and bored with think,white,tasteless vanilla and those are the easiest to find. So how are you suffering, Just emotionally? Come on tell me, I'm old enough to be your grandma at the least , probably great grandma so I don't shock easy anymore. And I do care, I want everyone to have good experiences, with weight loss, certainly lived a long,life without it, and am much happier with it! And I am just one of many helpful people on Bariatric Pal.
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I honestly barely eat fruit outside of a few times a month these days if it's not in my yogurt. But i eat all of my hard protein on top of salad or cooked vegetables and go bite for bite...
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Food Before and After Photos
Orchids&Dragons replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have the info for the Coconut Light and Fit Greek yogurt. It's 80 cal, Total Carb 9g, Fiber 0g, Sugars 7g, Protein 12g -
Food Before and After Photos
Kris77 replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Yum!! Do you chop up the pistachios or can you get them crushed? I recently saw a new flavor Light and Fit yogurt. It’s called Toasted Cocunut. I need to find out the sugars on it first but I was thinking about getting g that flavor instead of my usual strawberry and adding pistachios to it! -
Remember we are all at different stages. The only one that counts is your stomach. Think of the plan as a guide only. Listening to your stomach it's new and in training. We all learn the hard way. I'm still learning to eat slower too or I start getting the "foamies". To this day I can't eat anything that is over cooked, or yogurt but that's me. So don't be to hard on yourself.
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You should totally try it! See what you think and tell me everything! (Oh btw? I ate yogurt/cottage cheese with blueberries and almonds this morning-sweetened with liquid stevia and a boiled egg on the side. And I'm still full, but I sound like a Wookie sitting here. You can hear my tummy emptying and the sucking wookie noised from it as it does! So far no hunger, but it's only been 15 minutes since eating it. Good times! Adventures in FoodTown!) I'll let you know when I feel hungry again.
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Arsenic, Lead Found in Popular Protein Supplements
GreenTealael replied to RoisinPáircéir's topic in Food and Nutrition
Thank you for posting this! I guess its wise to move to whole foods as sources of macronutrients as soon as possible like most Teams suggest "Protein products typically contain between 15 and 25 grams of protein per serving (although some do contain more). By comparison, a 5-ounce container of plain, nonfat Greek yogurt has around 17 grams of protein, and 3.5 ounces of chicken breast has 31 grams. Protein needs range from 0.4 to 0.6 grams of protein per pound of weight a day (that would be 64 to 96 grams per day for a 160-pound person). “That’s not a difficult amount to get in your diet, if you include natural sources of protein such as legumes, nuts, low-fat dairy, fish, and lean meats,” says Siegel. “You’ll benefit not just from the protein itself, but from all the other nutrients found in whole foods.” -
I second Fairlife milk, it is really good. Can drink straight or add to sugar free pudding, coffee, condensed soups, sugar free hot chocolate, etc. Also bone broth. You might want to try Greek yogurt, it is very helpful. Cottage cheese with one ounce Blueberry Applesauce is also worth a try. Cottage cheese can be mixed with spaghetti sauce too. My tastes have changed quite a bit. Keep trying stuff, you may like it now.
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I just moved to the puréed stage of my program on the 27th. Sleeve surgery was on the 12th. During the full liquid stage was just nauseous most of the time. Yesterday I tried two baby spoons of yogurt and immediately threw up. Today I had a couple bites of scrambled egg and it went down fine, started drinking a protein drink and 20mins later I am throwing that up as well. Any tips to try and avoid being sick or what I should do?
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Haven't tried the soups yet. Felt a bit nauseous on my second yogurt try though. Had to stop after two bites.
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I hope you’re right!! I have a terrible sweet tooth and sometimes I’ll eat a yogurt to avoid the skittles or something else sugar. You seem to try new things while keeping it very healthy!! I love seeing what you post!
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Ohhh ... good topic, slider foods. I have no real slider foods, that I have found. I don't eat yogurt, but if I eat soup or ice cream/frozen yogurt, I still feel full/feel my restriction. If it's a fairly thin soup, I can consume about 2 cups, maybe? Solid foods, nothing slides, crackers, pasta, chips, about an ounce or two in, I can feel my restriction. BUT, now days my stomach empties fast. It doesn't seem to matter if it is dense protein, or carby stuff. It's gone out of my stomach usually in less than an hour, sometimes far less. Since I've stopped doing IF, I've been a lot hungrier. Like if my stomach is empty, then I'm hungry. Normally this would scare the crap out of me, the fact that I feel satiated for such a short amount of time. I'm good for right now, as I'm trying to put the breaks on my weight loss. But I'm hopeful that if the future when I stabilize I can utilize IF, because IME, it greatly reduces my hunger.
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I would ask your surgeon or nutritionist what they recommend. I think everybody is told something a little bit different based on what their care team prefers. For me, my guidelines were that I should have about 4 protein shakes daily. With breakfast I could have 1/2 cup of berries and I could have a lean protein and a cup of veggies for dinner. I could also sub in a yogurt for lunch instead of a protein shake if I wanted.
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Started full liquids today. Was able to do about 1.5 oz of yogurt this morning. Gonna be trying a protein shake soon.
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Intermittent Fasting Daily Menu/Results/Accountability
AEdoesRnY replied to FluffyChix's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Thank you so much for that reassurance! I did buy eggs the other day but haven’t hard-boiled them yet, I’m going to make sure to do that today so I have them on hand! I did get lots of veggies and I have chicken I’ll cook up too. I like the idea of trying to start with a denser meal (vs yogurt) and seeing how that impacts my hunger and snacking levels! Thanks!! -
Wow! Great list girl. I heartily concur! Yogurt by itself for me=total slider. I eat it and look around for more! But if I combine with cottage cheese, walnuts/almonds, blueberries, peanut butter powder (yes I know), and sometimes 6g Fiber One--but at least the stuff before this that's listed...it sticks with me. But I keep quantities to 1/2c of the dairy mix. Salads and veggies (raw and cooked, especially over cooked) = total sliders. Pasta, rice, beans, "complex carbs" = total sliders Crunchy crap: crackers, chips, tortillas, including protein chips = total sliders Candy: sugar free gummy bears and sugar free strawberry twizzlers = total sliders (please don't ask me how I know) Soups/stews/chilis = total sliders Anything (animal/vegetable/mineral) with gravy or butter = total sliders Smoothies/protein drinks that don't have lots of spinach, a few berries, and a crapton of psyllium husks = total sliders ***** So basically here's my recap. Everything goes through me like buttah except dense, very lean protein and separate al dente veggies. Some whole nuts have a "stop" to them. From satiety standpoints: as long as I keep carbs low, keep carbs per meal low, and sugar per meals 5g or less per meal, then I can control my hunger and control my portions (except on salads...I eat 2x as much salad as I do meat + veg). Adding IF also helps me limit my hunger. The more I IF, the less hunger I have.
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Y'all know i put everything under the sun in my yogurt to give it a little more grip except steamed Haddock or Grilled chicken... Maybe that's my next step 😂😂😂
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Six months post-op+ : The Sophomores Thread
Orchids&Dragons replied to sideeye's topic in The Lounge
I add about 1/4 cup Kashi go lean to my yogurt, kind of like granola. It makes it more filling, plus adds protein and fiber. From the slider queen: yogurt, fruit, soups, stews, chicken salad, tuna salad, crackers, most veggies, and my personal fave: sugar-free fudgesicles. Did I miss anything? Also, I'm very fortunate at this point. I have wicked cravings, but no true hunger. -
For me yogurt is hit or miss. There are some days it feels filing and other days I’m hungry again so soon after! I like the idea of being thoughtful about the density of my first meal - I’ve been having trouble staying reasonable with my first IF meal because by that point I’m really hungry so it ends up taking more food to feel full. I might try out some denser protein and veggies vs. yogurt and the other stuff I’ve been starting with! Thanks for suggesting it!
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I feel like yogurt is filling. I add raspberries and blackberries to mine too. Stays w me until lunchtime. But I’m also 7 mos post op so maybe that won’t be the case the further out I get.
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Me... Ferral ?!?!? Never. Sometimes. Hourly. LOL I like cottage cheese but its on the same list. I eat it rarely because its more processed (more ingredients) than plain greek. I'm filled by yogurt but it move through very quickly lol i swear i can hear it 😳 Then I'm hungry 1 hr later... Nah. Gotta do better than this 😂😂😂 especially when that damn salad had me stuffed forever and i bare ate any of it. The damn dense proteins. Who would have known ?!?! JK ... Everyone. I'm going to try eating salad for 1st meals and see how long until hunger kicks in vs. yogurt.
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Ok, before you go completely ferral, try mixing 2oz of Greek yogurt with 2oz of cottage cheese, matcha, and your toppings (including walnuts or almonds) to make it fit your macros. See if it makes it more filling. Cottage cheese totally fills me where yogurt slides. I'll be back in a bit to post my slider ultimates.
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Sigh... Ive been thinking... I may give up yogurt for a bit 😳 Not sure when I'll start but likely in 2 weeks It's my ultimate slider at this point. I know it is because i cam feel it go straight through me but it has so much protein i was willing to ignore it. 😂 But once again becoming stricter with my diet i see now that i only truly feel restriction with dense foods. What's on everyone else's ultimate slider list?
