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It's happening to me too I mean I've been walking three to four miles daily I'm eating drinking and doing everything that I'm supposed to do and it's the same thing I am sitting still but the doctor is like well you're losing interest I understand that but I want to lose weight as well that's the only reason why I went through this traumatic experience Congratulations!!!!@@
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June buddy I lost weight yes Help What am I doing wrong I work out Smh I was hoping to be in the hundreds Any suggestions
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Is 8oz / 220gm food too much? 5 years post op
CarmenG replied to molliemaggot's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
This past Monday, my PA told me I should probably be consuming 1,000 calories a day. Ta loco! (He's crazy). I reminded him I'm only 35 days out of surgery. I said I was consuming about 600 cals a day now, 60g protein, and 41 carbs (because 21 of my carbs and 60 calories come from my chewable vitamins and fiber supplements). He said I should up my cals. I told him, I'd up them to 700, but that was it. I'm not saying the kid doesn't know his stuff, but this isn't my first bariatric surgery. We know our bodies better than our docs, PAs, and nutritionists. Unfortunately, we know our bodies because we learn through trial and error. That's how we figure out when too much it TOO MUCH, or what foods our particular stomachs will reject or be fine with. "Since grams can be used to measure both solid and liquid ingredients, both types of ingredients can also be measured in a cup. However, while liquid ingredients are always the same weight in grams, solid and dry ingredients are not. Remember that grams are a measurement of weight or mass." Solid food is more dense than liquid. You'll need less solid to fill you up. Liquids will go though faster and easier. Listen to your tummy. Grams only measure the weight of something, not how bulky or dense it is. Also, everyone's tolerance, hunger, and nutritional needs will vary from person to person. The medical teams can give us guidelines, but even if they've personally had bariatric surgery themselves, ever body is different. I don't think that 1 cup of food is too much at 5 years out. However, only your stomach can decide that. -
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ChunkCat replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yeah, I have to do all the standard things like 6 months of supervised weight loss visits, nutritionists, psych, etc... I just thought the weight clause was particularly cruel. I'll be taking @summerseeker advice and putting heavy things in my pockets. LOL I can't even tell what stage my cycle is in to make sure I go in with the period bloat (hysterectomy) so that's super annoying. @SleeveToBypass2023 I don't get an option about which insurance plan we have, this is through my partner's workplace. It costs too much to go with someone else. But I'm glad you didn't have to fight as hard to get your surgeries, BCBS was good when we had them! @New To This23 That sounds like a nightmare! I am so sorry you are going through that! I am worried about this scenario because my body is given to weird spurts of weight gain that have nothing to do with what I'm eating or how I'm exercising. I did 18 months with a nutritionist and lost 10 lbs, which was really due to the Ozempic I started. LOL I've never been able to lose more than 15-20 lbs, my body is just wicked stubborn. I will keep my fingers and toes crossed that you make that weigh in with room to spare!! Keep us posted! -
I'm not surprised, I feel like sometimes practitioners auto-pilot their responses instead of thinking them through for the individual! I hope the Ozempic wears off quickly so your lows stop. I get awful lows (and stomach pains) from Metformin so I can sympathize, hypoglycemia that is medication induced can be so miserable. I really don't know how non-diabetics take Ozempic for weight loss, you'd think they'd be battling the hypoglycemia all the time! But every body is different... Hope you feel better soon! I'll have to remember this for my surgery and talk with the doctor ahead of time because I'm on Ozempic and it keeps my A1C in the 5s...
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No problem at all!! Maybe reach out and see if they can put you on Metformin or something (that's also been known to have mild weight loss properties) and gradually ease your way off it, if your diabetes is bad enough to still need a little something right now. But definitely stay off Ozempic.
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Don't be discouraged!!!!!
SleeveToBypass2023 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've seen some posts on here that are sad or upset because in 2 weeks the OP has only lost 10-15 pounds. Let me give you a few things to think about. #1 - everyone loses weight differently, so never compare yourself to anyone else #2 - non scale victories are at least as important (if not more important) than what the scale shows. Examples are: fitting in seats better, walking better, clothes and rings fitting better or getting too big, getting off meds, no longer having high bp or being diabetic, etc... #3 - the average "normal" weight loss is 1-2 pounds per week, and if you're on some kind of special diet then MAYBE 2-3 pounds per week. So if you look at the high end of that, without the surgery you would be down 6 pounds in 2 weeks. So while you may think you haven't lost enough weight, or not as much as some people on here have, you're doing a lot better than you would be if you never had the surgery. #4 - the more you weigh before your surgery, the more (and faster) you will lose after. The first 6 months is when you lose the most, and if you are in the 300-400 range (or higher) you will see the more dramatic weight loss during that time. Those that start off in the 200s tend to lose a bit slower and not as dramatically. That's just the way of it. It doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong or the surgery is a fail, it's just the nature of the beast. The higher the bmi, the more dramatic the initial weight loss. The lower the bmi, the slower the weight loss. AND FINALLY #5 - You may have complications. It's just a fact. Not everyone does. Majority don't. But some, like me, do. And that's ok. Stay in regular communication with your doctor, advocate for yourself, do everything you are supposed to do, take whatever meds or do whatever procedures you have to, take deep breaths, and know it'll be ok and you'll get through it. In the moment, they can feel overwhelming and never-ending. Regret definitely can creep in. BUT... remember that "this, too, shall pass" and when it does, you'll be on the other side, living your best life, and the complication will just be a blip in the road. How many health issues and complications did you have pre-surgery? And you rode those out, knowing another one was inevitable due to being so unhealthy. So just know that once you get on the other side of THIS, you'll be so glad you had the surgery and your health improved. In the wise words of a little blue fish "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming..."- 4 replies
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Hi there, I was sleeved June 19 and I had this!! I had 2 ER visits and was re admitted to hospital. I referred myself to a gastroenterologist in the end. That is what you need. My pain was only at night too! Here is my long story and I hope it helps you. Please know I am feeling better now. You’ve had complications but there is hope. Here is what I posted last night in another thread. Hi everyone! I was sleeved on 19/6 (Australian date format lol). My experience was no smooth sailing and I developed severe complications despite seeing the best surgeon at the best hospital. I’ve felt really scared, alone and isolated so I am delighted to find this forum. my weight was only 92 pre op and I guess I was considered a healthy young woman. 5 days post op I developed a severe burning pain deep inside my stomach. After numerous emergency visits and tests, it was determine I did not have a gastric leak. I had to be re admitted to hospital to manage the most severe pain of my life, for another 5 days and they still didn’t know what was wrong. Long story short, I had to self refer myself to a gastroenterologist who immediately knew what was wrong. I had developed bile reflux from my bowel into my freshly cut stomach which was causing the searing pain, severe inflammatory gastritis of my stomach lining, which then caused pancreatitis and severe spasms of my actual stomach. Because of all of this I could not even get Water down and my throat was burning and mouth dried up from bile damage. He put me on a bunch of new intense meds and nearly 6 weeks post op now I am starting to feel normal. It’s been a really scary rough ride and emotional and I haven’t known if I’ve made the right decision. I can eat about 1/4 cup soft foods now which I am grateful for. Anyway I wanted to share my story in case you ever come across someone with these symptoms and doctors don’t believe them / don’t know what is wrong.
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SleeveToBypass2023 replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Have you tried Blue Cross Blue Shield? I didn't have to do the 6 month nutritionist visits and there was no clause about gaining weight. I saw my surgeon for the first time Feb 28th 2022 and I was approved and in the surgery room literally having my surgery on May 3rd 2022. I just had to meet their criteria which was bmi over 40, at least 1 comorbidity (I had 3), and have tried at least 2 other weight loss options. Then my blood work and ekg had to come back that I was healthy enough for the actual surgery. And that was it. -
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summerseeker replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ok the system is brutal, be sneaky. At your initial consultation, wear heavy clothes, sew weights into your clothes. Wear boots. Carry coins in your pockets. Wear heavy jewellery. Drink loads of liquids and try not to pee, have a full bowel...... You get the idea. It should be possible to weigh at least 15 - 20 pounds more than you actually do. -
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New To This23 replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Same for me too, different insurance though. I also had to lose 5% of my starting weight in six months. I really struggled with it. In the past I had been able to lose more than that within 3 months, but this time I had had to see a registered dietician as part of the program. I ate what she told me to eat and I also was required to exercise a minimum of 5 days a week. It took me 5 months to lose the 5%. I went to my final weigh-in at the 6-month mark and I was 1lb OVER the 5% goal. This meant I was not allowed to meet with the surgeon or do the testing the surgeon requires before the surgery. I had to call my insurance and explain to them what happened. They allowed me to have a weigh-in 4 days later. At this weigh-in, I was 8lbs BELOW the goal weight. I have since seen the surgeon, and had all of my testing done. I am not allowed to be over the goal weight at all. It is really hard trying to maintain this while I wait to get a surgery date ( If I am over the goal weight on the surgery day, then the surgery will be canceled) and it has added a lot of unnecessary stress. I constantly weigh myself several times a day, and I am super paranoid about eating. No food funerals for me and I am envious of everyone who gets to do one. If my surgery gets canceled for being 1lb over, which I was told it would be, then I will call my insurance again. -
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WanderingLass replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I also had a 6 month period in which I had to meet with a nutritionist 6 times, an exercise person once, a psychologist once, a surgical consult, and my case manager monthly. I didn't have to lose weight but I couldn't weigh more than my initial consult. My insurance used Aetna but then right at the end when it came time for submitting for preauthorization, they switched to Active Health. They required one more consult with my surgeon and she thankfully had a virtual opening the next day (It's a 2 and a half hour drive not including the ferry ride to my surgeon's office). Each insurance is different and the more time I spend in medical billing the more of an opinion I develop about the American health care system. 🙄 -
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catwoman7 replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I wasn't allowed to gain any weight, either - although in addition to that, (my insurance company) required a six-month supervised diet (supervised by a physician or dietitian), and I lost about 50 lbs doing that. -
Since you’ve started maybe just keep to one or two shakes a day & have a meal of portion & calorie controlled protein & vegetables/salads for the other meal/s. You’ve started to break some of your sugar & carb dependencies & it seems a waste to throw that away. A two week pre surgery diet is pretty common though some are only on a one or two diet. They can take the form of an all liquid (protein shakes) or two protein shakes & one meal of protein & vegetables or a specific diet of solid food (I was on keto). Just depends on your surgeon. Mine gives different patients different diets depending on several factors including starting weight, weight loss/gain history & medical status. All the best what ever you choose to do.
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ChunkCat replied to ChunkCat's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks. I've been on 6-7 different plans in the last 10 years and sadly have come to the same conclusion. They both don't want you to be overweight, but also want you to stay overweight because they make it impossible to qualify for anything that would help you lose the weight? It makes no sense at all. Their requirements for weight loss meds are absurd too. -
Hi all! Newbie here... I've been lurking for months though. LOL I got notice today that my policy covers the surgery but that I cannot gain any weight the entire time I'm in a bariatric program. I'm curious, how many other people have had this as a clause in their policy? And if so, how did you deal with it? Did you gain weight and get kicked out? I find this to be such an absurd requirement. If I could control what the scale does I wouldn't be pursuing weight loss surgery in the first place! I just gained 10 lbs in the last 3 weeks on a new medication (Lyrica) that I have to stop now because its not worth the gain. Doctors are always playing with my meds, what if something else causes me to gain before surgery?? This is such an annoying detail to have to worry about.
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How did you select your goal weight?
Caitlinhn replied to Sigh's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I cancelled my surgery but my goals (lose weight, get rid of prediabetes, improve thyroid and get out of plus sizes) haven’t changed. Started at 270, my first big long term goal is 220. I’m almost there then I’ll go to 170. Anything after that will be wonderful, would love to be at 150. But finding healthy habits that are sustainable long term is what I’m looking at so I can maintain where I land -
How did you select your goal weight?
Splenda replied to Sigh's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My initial goal weight was "what is the highest weight I could end up at where I would still feel like the surgery was a success?" For me, that was 275. Once I hit that, I kept going and have maintained at around 220 lbs. -
How did you select your goal weight?
Spinoza replied to Sigh's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I just picked a weight (kinda random/outta nowhere, LOL) that I had reached by dieting strictly from a much lighter starting weight about 10 years ago and I felt suited me. It was in the middle of my 'normal' BMI and totally aspirational. I never dreamed that I would actually reach it. My surgeon and dietician prepared me to lose 60-70% of my excess weight, which would have left me with a BMI of 27/28 or so (which I would also have been thrilled with)!! I ended up losing more. I would have been equally happy had I ending up losing less - HONESTLY. My body seems to have picked its own new set weight. It's so weird - like I had little (almost no) input other than sticking to my programme. Suffice to say - trust the surgery, trust your body. Don't mess about with the rules. You'll end up where you were supposed to. xxx -
I eat it occasionally when I want pasta, because it is a *better* choice, but it is still pasta. It may help if you try to load your bowl with about half veggies and treat the pasta as a "topping" vs the base for the dish. I do that with mushrooms, broccoli, etc throw some alfredo sauce on it, and maybe 1 serving of (cooked) pasta for my husband AND I (and he eats about 2/3 of the amount I make, he hasn't had the surgery yet), sprinkle a little cheese on top and bake it in the oven. You still get your pasta "fix" but not as much. I'm almost 2 years post op, and 15 pounds BELOW my goal weight, before anyone comes for me telling me how fat I'm going to get again. (YMMV, but that's how I've incorporated it into my diet).
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How did you select your goal weight?
ms.sss replied to Sigh's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
i chose an arbitrary number of the mid-point of healthy BMI for my height: 120 lbs (which was more or less the weight i was up to my mid-twenties...im 50 now) By the time i got to 127, i called GOAL cuz i felt i was looking too gaunt and skelator-ish for my liking. I did continue to lose more weight, however, and for some reason or another, got down to a lowest-post-op weight of 109 around 1.5 years post op. fast forward a few years (i'm almost 5 yrs post-op now) and i've basically bounced around 115-120 for most of that time. This morning, i clocked in at 119.8 lbs oddly enough, despite the fact that i weigh about 7 lbs less than the time i called goal due to looking too sickly over 4 years ago, i actually look much, much healthier now. the rapid weight loss phase did a number to my appearance, i guess, and now that i'm on auto-pilot and eating more "normally" (i'm looking at you, carbs!), and getting a decent amount or regular exercise. everything sort of shifted around and settled so i no longer look like dead man walking. oh, and another observation: when i was a teenager, i weighed about 110-115, and looking as past pictures, i believe i actually look bigger back then despite actually weighing more today. soooooooo....that was a long winded way of saying that the number on the scale isn't always the best thing to determine the best goal weight for YOU. but of course its a good starting point, if one is realistic about it. Good Luck! ❤️ -
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Tiffyc replied to ms.sss's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Iam 40yr old female and I am 5’7” Starting weight 346. Surgery Weight 290 One month post-op 276 Two months post-op 268 I just hit three months post-op on 20th of July and I am at 257lbs -
This is my "ticker." It shows my starting weight (black), my current weight (blue), and my goal weight (green). I'm a revision from a 14-year-old sleeve to a bypass 35 days ago.
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Oh wow that’s amazing! Do you mind me asking what your goal weight is and how you are sustaining the weight loss over time? And you’re right we all have something different and with different doctors it’s best to go by what he says then lol
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Well, I started my SEMI liquid diet 30 days before I was to start my actual liquid diet because I wanted to. I lost 30 lbs. in 30 days. My doc wanted me to lose weight before he performed the surgery. I would do 3 protein shakes, 5-6 bottles of water, and a good, solid, no carb dinner. I wanted to lose as much as possible to help out my surgeon. My dinners would be bun-less cheeseburgers, pizza toppings (no crust), grilled or boiled chicken, pork chops, steak, and different kinds of cheeses. I would leave out anything that was bread/tortilla/pasta or a "side." Your best bet is to discuss it with your doctor. Follow his instructions. It's different for everyone because we all have different starting weights, different weight loss goals, different pre-existing health issues, and different doctors.
