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When I do intermitten fasting I stop eating foods but I may have a cup of tea, or coffee before my workout in the morning. I was taught that you can drink whatever you want but as always limit your sugar intake to about 60g during an entire fast (16-24 hours) and If you must eat something let it be no more than 100 calories within an entire fasting period. NO ALCOHOL I generally stick to Water, tea or coffee. It has helped me finally reach my water intake, because I'm usually still awake 6 hours after I begin a fast.
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I think the whole point of going through this, for me personally, is to cut out those things mentioned like alcohol, and fatty foods forever to be healthy....finally. ;0) I'm saying "never" to a lot of things.
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For those of u who have criticized my "way" of doing the sleeve...
bikrchk replied to marfar7's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I read something today that made a lot of sense to me. "What matters to success isn't the speed with which you lose weight, but whether you lose weight with a lifestyle you enjoy enough to sustain." -Eggface Wise words. For me, anyway, the "diet" mentality has never worked. What does work is focusing on healthful choices first, working in the things I like, (often, but not always modified to make it more healthful) and moving my body. If I put on 5 pounds, I take it off by eating a little less, eliminating alcohol for a week and moving a bit more. THIS is a lifestyle I enjoy enough to sustain! -
For those of u who have criticized my "way" of doing the sleeve...
marfar7 replied to marfar7's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Fyi: ive lost 2.5 lbs of the amt Ive gained. I stopped drinking alcohol and nightime snacking. I guess it makes a bigger difference than I once thought. I hafta force myself to "top off" with my dinner, eatong to the point of being full so Im not hungry again before bedtime. Probly not a great idea but once I have a snack (healthy or not) its over. I will eat all nite On my way back from the dark side... -
I'm not doing resolutions....I think they are a trap for me and I want to just make a commitment to more exercise. To make it more consistent in my life. I'm also considering doing the coolrunnings training for a 5 k race..not that I'm thinking about running a race..I actually hate to run...but in my history, the only time I've been "thin" was when I've run. I was in a police acadamy in 1989 and ran three miles a day every morning....I weighed 169 (not exactly thin, but I wore a size 12 and thought I looked pretty good) and I was in shape. We also did a bunch of strength training as well. Ahhh, those were the days and I loved it. But I'm more thinking of as a personal challenge. I did get, a few years ago...Bob Greene's book on working out...the Oprah Boot Camp Challenge...sort of the same idea...just an intense workout regime. I am going to quit drinking alcohol for a good while. I'm an occasional drinker now but I can do without. I'm going to really cut out the sugars such as cookies, sweets, etc. And really watch the carbs. I want to sort of clean out my system.
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I have heard some doctors do a blood test to determine whether someone is smoking. There is a chemical in your blood from the nicotene. Some doctors have been known to cancel the surgery. I am not unsymathetic to your case. My brother is a recovering alcoholic and he says tobacco is the hardest thing to give up. He has given up both pot and alcohol. At AA meetings they have coffee and cigs and the room is blue from the smoke.
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What, if anything, is too serious to joke about? Nothing, in itself. Depends on the audience. Joking about anything too close to the listeners' hearts is unacceptable. If you could wake up tomorrow having gained one quality or one ability, what would it be? To be able to have more fun, enjoy life more. To lighten up. Whom, if anyone, do you envy enough to want to trade lives with them? No one, now. If I'm ever reincarnated, I'd like to have a life like Jimmy Buffett. If you could change anything about the way you were raised, what woud it be? Take alcohol out of the equation. Period. If there were a public execution on tv, would you watch it? Absolutely, positively not. Would you rather arrive at a party underdressed or overdressed? Underdressed. I'm sort of used to that. What's more important: actual experiences, or the memories that remain from those experiences? The quick answer is the experiences, but without the memories did the experiences really happen? In real conversations, do you tend to talk more or listen more?If you had to chose one, would you rather be blind or deaf? I definitely listen more, but it wasn't always that way. And if I had to choose one, I'd rather be blind... deaf... blind... deaf... hmmmm.... ummmm.... wow. Deaf, I guess.
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To All People ABOUT to get banded...
Iluvharleys replied to DeLarla's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I'm going to the doctor on Thursday and will try to remember to ask him this stuff. Some of it we have went over lately. 1. Carbonation: Does it cause erosion? Does it stretch the pouch? Or do we avoid it simply because it causes gas pains? I was going to ask this one Thursday 2. Alcohol: Does it cause erosion, or do we avoid it because it's empty calories? He told me they are empty calories, but that I could have a glass of wine if I wanted to. 3. Drinking before and after meals: How long to wait after eating? What are their reasons for these rules? My doctor actually believes in two hours, but I agreed on one hour. It is just for keeping the pouch full longer. I can drink right up till I eat. 4. NSAIDs - is there any new information regarding them causing erosion? I need to ask this one too I will be glad to ask any other questions anyone might have also. -
I always knew booze screws up your metabolism, and I also realize that barfing your guts up after a drunken suarez can cause slippage. But can the alcohol itself pickle your stomach and cause erosion? Thanks for all your answers. I like the comment about asking your doctor to back up with proof. I say this cuz I asked Lopez if fizzy carbonation causes pouch stretching, and he laughed and said "there's no proof." He said carbonated liquids pass right through to the bottom part of the stomach as do any liquids, and the only problem is when the gasses try to come back up, it causes discomfort. This is why I like to hear all the opinions, especially ones from different countries. Thanks all!
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To All People ABOUT to get banded...
Iluvharleys replied to DeLarla's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
OK I hope I can remember everything he said! 1. Carbonation: Does it cause erosion? Does it stretch the pouch? Or do we avoid it simply because it causes gas pains? It only stretches the pouch temporily, the problem is that it stretches it enough to make the opening larger therefore you are able to eat more. It cannot cause erosion. 2. Alcohol: Does it cause erosion, or do we avoid it because it's empty calories? Alcohol does not cause erosion, but can cause problems if your liver/pancreas gets bad that could cause problems with the band in the long run. However, smoking is much worse than the alcohol. It is also because of all the empty calories. 3. Drinking before and after meals: How long to wait after eating? What are their reasons for these rules? He would like to see two hours after eating to drink, but it is only because they want the food to stay in the pouch longer. If you eat too soon, it will empty your pouch causing you to want to eat sooner. 4. NSAIDs - is there any new information regarding them causing erosion? Yes, NSAIDS can cause erosion! 5. Slippage: Any information on what causes slippage. I know we are supposed to avoid vomitting, but what if we get a stomach bug? What are the signs/symptoms, etc. Slippage is caused mostly by wrenching/throwing up pretty hard. That causes the band to turn and flip. That is why it is so important to let your band heal in place really good at the beginning. The signs of slippage are not being able to drink Water or eat without throwing up, being in a lot of pain, or eating and not getting full (not having any restriction and you won't have any signs with this one). 6. What if anything is new in the last 6 months? They are now using the Vanguard band and think it is a better band. The swedish band is coming out real soon too. OK, that is what I found out, so it will be interesting to see what anyone else finds out too. -
February/March 2014 sleevers
SuperFab replied to rebeccasams's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi Sherry, we've been daydreaming about food. And alcohol. -
I started using edibles about 9 months ago to replace the alcohol “vice.” I have a fatty liver and although have never been a heavy drinker, it gave me the incentive to just stay away from alcohol altogether, and gave me an “excuse” to not drink even socially. I found that the high from marijuana was much preferred over the intoxication from drinking, you can be totally chill but still have control over your actions. The problem with marijuana is I get the munchies really bad and have no control in that area. I am afraid to do edibles or vape post op for fear that I would not overeat again. I’m only 9 days out so my new habits need to be more solidified before getting high again ... thoughts?
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I filed for divorce from my husband a year ago. He is an alcoholic and I just cant take it any more.
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When Did Your Doctor Say You Could..... And When Did You?
Pinky Green replied to Pinky Green's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I never said that I didn't use it for recreational use. But you also don't know me or anything about be except what I've said. How do you know I don't also have some medical use? My grandmother died from Alzheimers. My mother is scared to death. It starts way before it gets diagnosed and once it is diagnosed it is usually toward the end. And I'm not saying that the sole reason I use it is to stave off Alzheimer's. Also notice that I never mentioned whether or not marijuana kills brain cells. That was something YOU brought up. If you make a statement in an open forum, then either you can back up what you say or it is your opinion. If you can't back it up it's an opinion. You are entitled to your own opinion - you are not entitled to your own facts. By the way the articles I quoted were all are quoting articles published in medical journals. I had a friend who had to go to an alcohol awareness class and I took a bunch of their literature and none of the statements on any of the pamphlets had any references at all. If the literature the Houston Area on Alcohol and Drug Abuse wants me to believe their statements why don't tell me where they came up with them? -
When Did Your Doctor Say You Could..... And When Did You?
GeauxForIt replied to Pinky Green's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Your original slant had nothing to do with legality. It was a broad sweeping statement about people who use any drugs or alcohol. Pick a soapbox dear, you're backtracking on yourself. -
There is absolutely nothing that I can never eat again. Grapes, citrus, pineapple, soda, sesame seeds, fibrous veggies, alcohol -- all things that were restricted for me for a time, but once I was fully healed, no issues whatsoever. The only thing I don't eat is any wheat products.. but that's due to an intolerance unrelated to the sleeve.
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2 Days Post Open Severe Nausea
Mstdst13 replied to ssourgirl's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't know if this will help but I was also really sick with nausea, not as long as your daughter but still sick. At one point they gave me everything they could so the nurse had me smell an alcohol wipe and it really helped. Once at home I kept a bottle of rubbing alcohol right by me the first few weeks and would smell it when a wave of nausea hit. It really helped me. I hope your daughter feels better soon -
Call the Bariatrics police!
MyNewLife28 replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I would just like to pose this question... Why would you feel the need to drink so soon after surgery while your stomach is still healing? Why would you take a chance after coming this far to mess things up and possibly hurt yourself? Even though there may not be evidence that it will hurt you, why would you chance it? You could wait at least a couple months out until your stomach was fully healed. Who knows what kind of affect alcohol has not only on your new stomach but your other organs because the digestion in your stomach is now different. Those are just some of the questions I would ask. Just because you can, doesn't mean it's good for you. If you need to drink that badly that you can't wait until your stomach is fully healed then I think there may be a problem. -
Call the Bariatrics police!
Band07 replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Mind you, this information is for people with whole functioning stomachs. Not fresh surgical lines, staples, and a stomach reduced to the point where a small ulcer could be major.: Put simply, alcohol irritates your digestive system. Drinking – even a little – makes your stomach produce more acid than usual, which can in turn cause gastritis (the inflammation of the stomach lining). This triggers tummy pain, vomiting, diarrhoea and, in heavy drinkers, even bleeding. On the less serious end of the scale, drinking can make it more difficult to digest food and absorb vital nutrients. That’s because alcohol reduces the amount of digestive enzymes which the pancreas produces to help us to break down the fats and carbohydrates we eat (1). (1) NHS Choices website, Gastroesophageal reflux disease: introduction. The Information Standard member organisation. Last reviewed: 29/05/2014. Available at:http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Gastroesophageal-reflux-disease/Pages/Introduction.aspx Thank you ! That is the most helpful comment Iv read on this entire thread ! Interesting and also thought provoking, makes sense too. -
Call the Bariatrics police!
SlimJill replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Personally I spoke to my therapist before surgery about alcohol and decided I would not touch it until I felt I had replaced my addiction with something healthy... It's just too risky to me. The way I see it is - alcohol never meant anything to me before surgery and I'm going to keep it that way! Once I get to a point where I am healthy, happy, and alcohol is purely a social activity then I will experiment a little. The only thing I worry about is my 21st birthday will be approximately 6 months post op in October. Most people know 21st birthdays usually end up in young people getting sick, passing out, or ending up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning ... so the peer pressure will be strong to go crazy but I'll have to reign those crazy friends in and remind them I have something more important to me. -
Call the Bariatrics police!
ShellMilliner replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just have one question. Why would you deliberately and intentionally do something that can harm yourself after just going through a procedure meant to give you a second chance at a healthier life? Something that goes against every NUT and doctor's advice that I've ever seen. A little something to think about. Alcohol is a diuretic. Now think about how your stomach has been altered and the amount of Water and Protein you need to consume daily. Your chances of dehydrating skyrocket when consuming alcohol and even more so in extremely large quantities. This post both saddens and angers me, especially when you think about how many people want/need this surgery for a better life and are denied or have to pay out of pocket and you see people being nothing more than irresponsible. @LipstickLady I'm right there with you...I said it, it's out there.- 105 replies
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Would like some input about an upcoming trip... It is s Business Convention and I am trying to figure out a non carbonated, sugarfree, alcoholic beverage to sip on (a weeks worth of business dinners). Prior it would be Bacardi diet or Mike's lite hard lemonade, neither of which will work now. Doc gave me ok to have alcohol but I have no clue what other types of drinks to have. Thanks!
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My grandfather used to make liquor and the bulk of any alcohol is sugar. Not a professional but is drinking alcohol customary? I have a friend that goes out sometimes and drinks ice Water but tells people its vodka if they ask to keep the peer pressure down...lol Sent from my Nexus S 4G using RNYTalk
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Shattering One of the Most Dangerous Weight Loss Surgery Fantasies
OutsideMatchInside replied to Dr. Colleen Long's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Magazine
Thank you for the thoughtful article. It is nice to see a mental health article about WLS patients that is not focused on alcoholism. -
I'm hiding my surgery from family anyone else ?
kozyjozie replied to mzsantiago88's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I told my family. Most of my family is overweight and has diabetes. I told them to tell them they have a choice to make their lives healthier. They all told me how much better and healthier I look. They really don't want to make the change and give up their love for food and alcohol. That is their choice. I have done this for me. I want to live a healthier lifestyle to me a role model for my two children. My daughter is 26 and my son is 20. They are so very proud of me. I guess it depends. I have always had a huge family and we have always gotten along well and loved each other. I thank god for my moms support as well. I just wish my dad would get the surgery. But he won't make the lifestyle change. I am so glad I have made that change.
