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Hi there, I just started my bariatric journey and am awaiting my one-on-one appointment with my surgeon. My basic healthy history is High Blood Pressure, NAFLD, PCOS, Sleep Apnea, Anxiety/Depression. I had my gallbladder removed 5 years ago, just had my colonoscopy and was just diagnosed with Type II Diabetes (A1C was 7.8). The 2 options for surgery are either gastric sleeve or RNY. According to all the charts, etc., looks like RNY may be best but of course it's more invasive. My surgeon only does RNYs laparoscopically, not open. Not sure what the final outcome will be but...would like anyone's 2 cents about which surgery they chose if they have a similar medical profile. I just changed my diet - and rather drastically - because of the diabetes. As low carb as possible, lots of water, veggies, etc. I'm hoping to bring my weight down as much as I can before surgery and then of course, there's the liquid diet yet to come.... My largest concerns are my liver - I've been taking Organic Milk Thistle for quite a while, not sure it helped much according to recent bloodwork - guessing my diet is what's going to help? I've also had a liver biopsy when I had the gallbladder removal. Second concern is getting that A1C down. Diabetes came as a surprise as my A1C had been in the 5 range for the longest time. Of course, I gained weight over COVID...and have been stressed, you name it. Going through perimenopause, etc. Any advice, I'm all ears! Thanks!
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Wait times privately in the UK?
summerseeker replied to Memoryissues's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hello and welcome to this great site. My nearest private hospital was once Bupa and now is Spire. I started this process in late March. I saw the doctor at the end of April. I have been given my date, 10th November 2021.. I think many people have had the same thought that life is too short and the NHS is too busy to reinstate Bariatrics any time soon, So even going private isn't quick. I have had to see a raft of people to see if I am suitable. I dont know if the long wait time is due to the hospital being busy because of covid and the amount of surgery cases postponed by the NHS -
Studying or Reading post Surgery
lizonaplane replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I personally think you made the right decision. I also think you should use this time to practice the post-surgery mindset - see a bariatric therapist to work on good eating behaviors and change to a high protein low carb diet. Make sure you try not to use food as a way to cope with stress or other emotions - I always used to eat a lot when doing mental work like school. -
It's a One-derful Life and Other Random Musings
Maisey posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I dropped into the 100's this week. I'd been looking forward to it for so long that it almost seemed unreal that there was no trumpet fanfare when it happened 📯. I haven't shared it with anyone and am savoring it. The last time I remember being this weight for certain was just around high school graduation. But just so my ego didn't get too big, surgery kicked in the next and gave me foamies and pain when I didn't eat slowly enough. That hasn't happened in a long time. I think it was a poetic-justice reminder. On a slightly less exciting note, "the girls" have dropped to a size I don't recall since early high school . I've always been well-endowed, even before being morbidly obese, so it is quite a change. I have broken down and purchased some new clothes. I realized for myself, despite being told, that I look terrible in all my too-big clothing. I think it was a security blanket of sorts. For so long, nothing was ever too big or too loose. I still hate shopping. I have no idea what size I need from what store. I asked the doctor in my program for a suggestion for a therapist. I couldn't get an appointment until February. But I was able to get into a cancellation next week. I'm excited as I had some very specific criteria for a therapist, experience with bariatric patients was only one. I'm looking forward to having someone to process changes with as well as the road ahead. I again want to thank all of you on this board for the ongoing advice and support. I'm grateful for having found you. I belong to a few FB groups and am astounded by the misinformation and lack of preparation/education that is out there. That's all ❤️- 10 replies
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I have read A LOT of research studies on the theory that diet soda causes weight gain, and the evidence is far from convincing. Dr. Matthew Weiner (a bariatric surgeon with a huge YouTube presence) says he doesn't mind if people drink fizzy water, but doesn't want his patients drinking diet or regular soda. The belief that it stretches the stomach isn't really true from what he says, and from other evidence, but also it just doesn't make sense. But he says, many people just find it uncomfortable. Like @PolkSDA said, it can be hard to find non-carbonated unsweetened drinks on the go other than water. I travel a lot for work, and I had given up soda 6 months ago as I prepared for surgery, and when I started to travel more again, I gave up and started drinking diet soda again. I've stopped now that I'm on my pre-op diet. One thing I did at first was carry packets of sugar free drink mix (like crystal light, but I don't like that brand) and a water bottle and just refill it and add a packet of drink mix. That worked when I didn't want plain water. I met a woman on a trip who drank Coke Zero from day one and drank it with her meals. She said she had gained some weight back, but she felt it was from too much alcohol.
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Torrance Bariatric Institute?
lizonaplane replied to Bloodhound's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I have not, but you can check to see if they are a Bariatric Center of Excellence. -
Anybody use Torance Bariatric Institute?
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September Surgery Buddies!!
Bloodhound replied to happilylacey's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm slated for September 13th. I'm nervous as hell. Torrance Bariatric. -
WHERE ARE MY AUGUST 2021 PEEPS?
Lady60 replied to phenomenally_me's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I had trouble with getting my liquids in until I tried warm/hot herb tea. It seemed to help going down into my stomach, and I did not experience that knot of pain in my sternum that I sometimes get drinking cool water. Now I don't have any trouble getting my liquids in. The protein, however, is still a struggle. Starting full liquids tomorrow, so I can finally have my low fat creamed soups, V-8 and my full strength Premier Protein (instead of the yucky clear stuff). That will definitely help with the protein. Also, Bariatric Boy, I feel your misery with the drained feeling. I was fine for a couple of days but today, I could barely walk across the floor this morning, let alone walking 30 minutes a day! I don't know how people do it! -
Bari Box? Anyone tried this food delivery service?
vikingbeast replied to Bloodhound's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It seems extremely expensive for what you get—my meal prep service just started doing what could be considered bariatric portions, but it's 10 meals for $55, delivered, which is about half the price of the Bari Box. https://www.valleymealprep.com/shop/10for55/ -
Are you saying you take a prenatal vitamin instead of a bariatric vitamin? Or in addition to because you are pregnant/trying to get pregnant?
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Bari Box? Anyone tried this food delivery service?
Bloodhound posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone has tried this bariatric delivery service or if they have one specific to bariatric surgery patients only? https://www.baribox.org -
Have you checked out this bariatric delivery service? https://www.baribox.org. I'm going to do a separate post on it to see if there are any reviews.
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I'm not familiar with any bariatric food delivery service. Post surgery you will be able to eat very little. This will continue for six months or longer. If more food is delivered than you can consume, you'll be wasting both food and the money you spent for the service. You really should learn to do some cooking for yourself. On Amazon search for "bariatric cookbooks" to see the variety available. Read the reviews and look for those books that contain "easy" recipes. Come on now--be brave!
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There is a bariatric food delivery service. They make it fresh at the time of order. Can this substitute for cooking? I abhor cooking for just myself.
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WHERE ARE MY AUGUST 2021 PEEPS?
Poise1 replied to phenomenally_me's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I feel the same about the optifast chews, I ordered the bariatric pal multi gummies! Has anyone tried these? -
WHERE ARE MY AUGUST 2021 PEEPS?
Plsmi7th replied to phenomenally_me's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
That's great!! Are they soft chews? I got the chewable tablets and I'm getting really tired of chewing them...it kind of feels like chewing chalk- AND I have to take 4 a day. They are from Celebrate Bariatric but I am thinking about switching to Bariatric Advantage if there is a better option. Has anyone tried the vitamin patches? -
WHERE ARE MY AUGUST 2021 PEEPS?
Plsmi7th replied to phenomenally_me's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I feel pretty great! Today is the first day I can actually eat food that doesn't have to be mashed with a fork, so I tried a little soft cheese and low fat ham roll-up. So far so good. They still don't want me eating bread or pasta, but I can have 3 saltine crackers a day (my nutritionist is very specific!). My bariatric vitamin contains calcium, but not enough vitamin D, and apparently I was really low on Vitamin D according to my pre-op labs. I started on OTC Vitamin D supplement about a week and a half ago and I do think it helped my energy level. I've been very fortunate to not have much pain. How are you doing? -
Recommendations for Hair Growth Supplements?
Bloodhound replied to mgigi's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
100% on The Viviscal and PRP micro needling. If you were to do one thing to motivate the dormant follicles, PRP is what I would recommend. I've seen the results of both The Viviscal and PRP micro needling and they are staggering for the renewal of those dormant follicles. -
Yes, you should learn to cook for yourself. There are many bariatric cookbooks with simple recipes. Start with soups. Vegetable soups are so easy. I'll give you a recipe in a moment. My 70 year old brother has been learning how to cook and BAKE!. Amazing! I never thought he could do it. He's been doing a great job searching the internet for recipes and exchanging recipes with friends. You can do it too. Now, here is the Weight Loss Magic Soup recipe, only 57 cal per cup. It's filling and delicious. 32 oz chicken stock 3 cups V-8 juice (you can use low-sodium V8 or even Tomato juice, homemade or store bought) 2 cans Italian diced tomatoes 1 small onion 2 cloves minced garlic 1 package sliced mushrooms 3 carrots, peeled and sliced 1 zucchini, diced 1 yellow squash, diced 2 cups fresh or frozen green beans 1 can kidney Beans, drained and rinsed 3-4 cups shredded cabbage 1 teaspoon Italian seasoning Salt and Pepper, to taste In a large frying pan sprayed with cooking spray, sauté garlic, onions, carrots, and mushrooms for about 5 minutes. In a large crockpot, combine sautéed garlic and vegetables with the remaining ingredients. Cook on high for 2-3 hours, or until vegetables are cooked. (I have made this in a large stock pot on the stove instead of in a crock pot, simmering on medium heat.) This makes a large batch of Soup. If you would like to freeze portions of it to use later, undercook the vegetables just a little. Pour the soup into freezer Ziplock bags and let as much air out as you can. Lay the bags flat on a cookie sheet and freeze. Once the soup is frozen flat, it is easy to layer in your freezer and won't take up much room. To thaw, place the bag in the fridge for 24 hours and then reheat. https://www.favfamilyrecipes.com/weight-loss-magic-soup/
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No. Before I even met with the bariatric clinic to inquire about revision I did a two-week liquid diet just to see if I could do it. (It turns out that my clinic doesn't use that technique for liver reduction.) Liquid protein shakes and powders are very filling. They are not like the old "Slender" shakes in a can. I would drink them and ask "Where is the rest ov my lunch?" No, I'm quite satisfied drinking protein shakes, supplemented with broth, sugar-free Jello and sugar-free Popsicles. I won't say it was totally easy, but it was not as hard as I expected and I lost over 10 pounds during those two weeks. Do a practice run. Try it now for about four days just to see how it goes for you.
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Food addiction concerns
Lynnlovesthebeach replied to Bloodhound's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I did the same thing preop. After I attended the required bariatric seminar I changed everything then. I started living the bariatric lifestyle then. I figured I had a few months to "practice" before I had to do it for real. I cut out carbonated drinks, sugar and started trying out different protein shakes. It was 5 months before I actually had surgery but I was pretty well prepared by then. Dilute your protein shakes with some milk if they are too sweet and see if that helps. Good luck with your journey! -
@Sunnyway what a great repertoire of books and resources. They do have OA meetings that focus on Bariatric Support.
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I need a pep talk (rant to follow)
Candace76 replied to hauntedhideaway's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I understand your concerns of failure going into this. When you have tried to lose weight over and over only to regain or not lose much at all, it is hard to believe anything will ever work. Yes, people have had WLS and regained or didn't lose much. I, like you, questioned my will power to remain on track, and still do. I have been on diet after diet, and tried many programs over the years, never reaching my goal (close a few times) and never getting to maintenance. I can say that post-op, I am surprised how much the restriction does help in keeping me from "going off" the plan. It is early on, so things may get harder, but at about a month out, a craving might "pop" in my head for a second, but it goes away quickly. I get full (satisfied) pretty quickly, and am not really tempted to snack. I think after putting myself through this extreme weight loss procedure & knowing that it is important to stick to the plan help me not want to do anything to jeopardize my success. I do enjoy cooking, but because I had to cook for my family also, I have been taking more short cuts then I did prior to surgery. During the soft food phase, I often ate Oikos Triple Zero Yogurt or scrambled eggs for breakfast, & canned chicken or tuna for lunch & dinner. Now that I am on the modified regular diet, I am trying to cook meals that my family & I can all eat. My sides might be different (quinoa instead of rice, etc.) I try to make double for my family & freeze a second meal when I can. For the foods that are just for me, I also try to make extra for another day or the freezer. The airfryer, crock pot & instant pot are great tools to make easy meals. Right now, as I am getting in new eating habits, I buy foods that are easy to prepare. You can do this.🤗👍 Find ways to take short cuts (in food preparation), find a few bariatric recipes that sound good & focus on those. I wish you luck with your surgery and progress. It is totally understandable to have these fears going into this, but don't let them get in your way of taking this step towards a healthier you. 🍀😊 -
I need a pep talk (rant to follow)
Elidh replied to hauntedhideaway's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
When I had my psych consult (pre-op), the therapist said I hadn’t failed those scores of diets over the years; the diets had failed me. Having had the bariatric surgery, I have to say this: No, it has not been easy, but I feel like my body is my friend now, and I’m not always fighting it to get my weight down.
