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How to get all my protein in?
Nepenthe44 replied to wendywitch7's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Just because your surgeon (or dietician) told you do something, doesn't mean that it's actually possible. They usually don't think about their guidelines that hard. You kind of have to work through it yourself. To meet these requirements, you need to get 80 g of protein in 12 oz of food max, but realistically more like 9 oz to accommodate the volume of your veggies. You need protein food with at least 8.9 grams of protein per oz. If you go for the most protein dense solid foods, you can do it, barely. 3 oz of chicken breast or egg white (not the whole egg!) has 27 grams of protein. So you eat 3 oz of egg whites for breakfast with 1 oz of veg, and 3 oz chicken breast + 1 oz veg for lunch and dinner. You can't really afford to eat protein foods that are less dense (like shrimp, tuna, lean beef) unless you give up on the veg, so chicken breast and egg white are pretty much your only options. (If y'all know of another food with 27 g of protein per 3 oz, please let me know!) If you cut back to a half an oz of veggies per meal, you might be able to get away with some of them. Does this sound absolutely awful to me? 100% But if you want to follow your surgeon's recommendations, this is, mathematically, pretty much the only option. And you can do a lot with cooking methods, spices, and mixing up the veggies to make this a little more tolerable. It is unlikely that the surgeon has thought through the practical requirements of their recommendation and done the math. (Less than 350 cals per day at over 3 months out seems a little severe, even to me.) It's unlikely that they expect you to actually follow their recommendations. It's much more likely, imo, that they think that protein shakes equals processed and processed equals bad, that they had a patient once who liked cheese who didn't lose weight after surgery, and that they expect you to eat utter garbage at least 25% of the time so a strict, highly restrictive diet the remaining 75% of the time you're compliant is the only way to succeed. -
Update 4 weeks post op: I am not eating much just drinking my protein and hitting fluid goals. Weight lose down 34 pounds. Pain none. Still get nauseous when drinking but it not to bad. How everyone else doing? Still losing or stalled?
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My Gastric Sleeve Journey
TRClark23 replied to TRClark23's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I'm officially right on the edge of being back into the 200's for the first time in about a decade, I'm also now closer to my goal than I am my heaviest weight, so that's pretty exciting. I've been slowly learning to take smaller bites, way more chewing, and taking more time with meals. I know that we're not supposed to be eating fast food, but I had a regular McDonalds cheeseburger a couple days ago. It was the first burger I've had in four months, and even though it was from McDonalds, it tasted great and I was able to finish the whole thing over the course of about 30 minutes. I'd say that's progress. At one point, my surgeon had told me that it was okay to start incorporating lunch meats and I tried boars head roast beef and it made me so sick that I swore I'd never even try beef again, but I did and it seemed to work out. Most days, I see myself mostly eating string cheese and various nuts. This has definitely been an interesting journey so far. -
What sort of "good problems" you had after WLS
Arabesque replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Well I had a interesting experience recently. I had to have an abdominal CT (nothing to do with my surgery) & my doctor told me the scan was somewhat inconclusive. It seems I don’t have enough fat around my abdomen for them to see any inflammation & to get accurate images of my intestinal area. I mean … what??? I had to undergo some other testing as a result. I never expected losing weight would result in this sort of problem. -
I've had a few days of 4-5 BMs a day but on the average 2-3. Thankfully I've never had problems with constipation post-op except during week one. That usually comes with weight stalls. I was told pale stools was caused from the fat loss especially if it floats so.... I'm happy to go often. I figure I'm flushing fat and pounds down the toilet. 😌 Downside, I sometimes worry about being out somewhere and too far away from a bathroom. So I plan carefully. But I know at some point it will slow down. GL
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Anyone else start sleeping with their mouth open post-surgery??
KathyLev replied to Penguin733's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It's funny you should mention this ! I'm a side sleeper, but every once in a while i'll find myself sleeping on my back ! I NEVER slept on my back before. I don't think I snore though -my husband would make sure to tell me LOL I think the reason I can sleep on my back now is because I must have lost weight in my butt and I can lay flatter rather than have that big rear end make my back arch ! It's funny the odd little things we notice after surgery. -
This is so true about starvation mode. I too was afraid to up my calories and in effect put myself into starvation mode and my weight loss stalled. As soon as i upped the calories, the weight started coming off again!!!
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That is excellent, Summerseeker! I honestly think we're just so hard-wired from years of obesity to expect the worst when it comes to scales, even when there's no need. And I agree with Catwoman, I think on holiday the activity portion is way higher than our day-to-day activity, and because it's on holiday, you don't notice because you're so distracted by fun stuff. I know I came back from a week at an interstate festival that felt like I'd eaten loads and was prepared for the scales to show it... and yeah, rather than gaining I'd lost a little more. It's wild!
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Keto rash is a new one to me so I did google it. Does your rash look like the keto rash (prurigo pigmentosa)? Certainly the surgery, change of diet, weight loss, etc. are very stressful & it does seem logical that it might unfortunately set off a flare of your eczema especially if that is a known trigger for you. Have they taken you off the Prilosec & offered you an alternative to see if that is the cause? Good luck with the biopsy. Hope they find an answer soon.
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I can relate to that mindset. I used to kid people pre-op that all I had to do was look at food and gain weight. And it was kind of true. But now after your WLS and sticking to the doc's plan, you will see the results on the scale. Fears will subside. Mine did. GL going forward.
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Slow Weight Loss
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Pat B's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Revision weight loss is definitely slower than the original weight loss. I'm almost 11 weeks out from my revision and I've only lost 23 pounds. But at this time when I had my original surgery, I had lost 70 pounds. It's just the nature of things. I had my revision because of complications, not for additional weight loss. -
Te he he, laughing all the way to the scales
catwoman7 replied to summerseeker's topic in The Lounge
I rarely gain weight anymore when I travel, or if I do, it's one or two pounds which is gone in a few days (likely water weight or excess "material" in my intestines). I think it's because I do a lot of walking when I'm on vacation - which I wouldn't have done back when I weighed over 300 lbs.. -
I have just arrived home from our 14 day holiday. We had it booked pre- covid and the company allowed us to continue postponing the booking until we could go. It was a All inclusive type holiday where you stay in a big resort and everything is at hand which suits us when travelling, my husband needs a wheelchair. We were a little nervous of the airports and flying as it is such a hassle with a wheelchair. It all went quite smoothly except for the times I was stranded with a hubby, wheelchair, two suitcases and two bags and a large handbag. At times it felt like I was the puzzle where you have a river to cross with a bag of grain, a hen and a fox. I wore the bags like a bandolero, pulled the suitcase and pushed the wheelchair with my stomach. Oh the joys of checking in at airports. I ate what I wanted, which being me, was always the best fish, seafood, cheeses and a vast amount of serrano/ parma ham. They made their own cookies and bread so these never got bypassed but in small amounts. I even had butter and ice cream. I drank strong coffee with liqueurs and some long cocktails. Usually one or two a day. A few times I felt really drunk when the bar tenders had made the cocktails stronger than the last. It was not a good feeling but I found something to eat and then the alcohol was absorbed quickly. I was a little worried to get on the scales this morning. Pre surgery, I could put almost a stone on in the two weeks [14lbs] a lot of it was water weight around my swollen ankles. I weighed in at exactly the same and TMI moment, had 8 days of poop inside me. So may even loose weight when the medicine kicks in [ or is it out ? ] So te he he another win win for my bariatric surgery
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Surgery Dates in September 2023
aravenclawrebel replied to Camil Sleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It really is! I've lost (and gained and lost again) 100lbs since I started this whole thing, but I have PCOS and "fat folk genes" as my PCP says 😂 I know Now that if I had been approved for surgery 10 years ago, I likely would have not done very well or would have been someone that lost the weight but ended up having a drinking problem or something. The last few years has really given me a lot of time to regroup my mind, heel childhood trauma, and figure out exactly why I use food as a coping mechanism. -
Starting plastics journey with questions
qnz234 replied to SunnyClover's topic in Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery
I lost weight with the idea that if it’s less fat then it’ll be less work, less hours, less money lol I’m about two months out -
Let's Collect Some Data!
MaryJ2299 replied to ms.sss's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
1. Basics: GENDER, AGE, HEIGHT F 66 5.2 2. Total Weight lost in the 6 months BEFORE surgery (if any) 17.4 3. Weight on DAY OF SURGERY. 202.5 4. Weight at 1 MONTH POST surgery 192.5 5. Weight at 3 MONTHs POST surgery 6. Weight at 6 MONTHs POST surgery 7. Weight at 12 MONTHs POST surgery goal is 145 -
I want to get pregnant but nervous!
Nelly 06 replied to Jlady10's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Don’t be scared, I’m currently pregnant. 1.8yr op gastric sleeve. I’m currently 5 months pregnant (almost 6) and I have gained 5 pounds in total. Baby is healthy and everything is working perfectly. I have 3-1/2 more months to go, I’m eating healthy, walking, drinking lots of water and no sugar. If you do things right everything will be fine. -
New NSVs, new chapter in life, old dreams becoming new!!!
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Exactly!!! Our whole lives have been dictated by the scale. Either hating what we see on it or avoiding it altogether. SO of course the first thing we all think about is watching the numbers go down. And there's nothing wrong with that. But it's so important to remember that there's a lot more to this journey than just losing weight. Yes, that's a big part of it, but there's so many other benefits and blessings that come with this surgery. Things I know I certainly never thought of. And I wanted to put something out here that reminded all of us to look for everything this surgery, and our hard work, will bless us with. -
Scared to eat
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to hlw3387's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What you're feeling is completely normal. We want this to work so badly that we have ourselves convinced food is the enemy. We tend to live in extremes. Pre surgery, food was an addiction, like a drug. Post surgery, we're scared to eat because we're convinced every little morsel will pack all the weight on and undo all of our progress. It's learning the balance between the two that takes the most time and effort. It's always a work in progress. Food is fuel, no more and no less. We eat to live, not live to eat. But we can't live without eating. If you start working on the disordered thinking (and yes, it is an eating disorder we all have) and we stick to the plan for what to eat, when, how often, etc and we move our bodies.... we get healthier, our relationship with food slowly changes, and the weight comes off. Once you're cleared to work out (beyond just walking) you will need the calories to keep your body from thinking its starving (when that happens, it holds on to every little pound and ounce of fat). Just take it one day at a time, and you'll get there. Start really slowly, give yourself grace, and don't fear food. It's fuel for our bodies, and we need it. We just don't need it the way we had it pre surgery. -
Arabesque is correct. There's no way you're going to be eating anywhere near the calories you'd need to gain weight. You WILL continue losing. Plus you can't live on just fluids for the rest of your life. Not only would that be unsustainable, but you can't do that for long without being under medical supervision. I lost over 200 lbs over the course of two years, and it sure wasn't from only drinking fluids...
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Congrats on your surgery. You aren’t alone in what you’re feeling but you’d have to be eating A LOT (calories & volume) to regain the weight you have lost so far. And that likely is not possible as physically your tummy won’t let you eat that volume of food at the moment. You’re still healing, your tummy is very sensitive & and likely intolerant to certain foods. Actually puree can be a bit challenging because certain flavours, textures & smells can be quite horrible which can limit your food options. But you’ll work out what you can eat with some trial & error. Each stage does get easier especially as your tummy becomes less fussy & sensitive & you’re able to eat a wider variety of foods. Stick to your recommended portion sizes, foods, eating frequency & you’ll be fine. (If you didn’t get this guidance from your surgeon &/or dietician ask them.) You won’t mess up & not wanting to will help you stick to your plan. All the best.
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I stretch and do some body weight exercises like wall pushups. I think about the positive things that I have accomplished in life, and imagine the new things that I will get to accomplish once all of this excess weight is off of my precious body. Sending big hugs! We are all pulling for you 🌺
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I will try to keep this short. I am coming up on two weeks post op for VSG. At the two week mark I move to puréed foods per my surgeon. I have done well with fluids and the progressions so far, and I am losing well, but now I am scared to start the next part of the process and further because I am scared I will gain back what I have lost and not continue to lose weight. I have NEVER EVER been scared to eat before. I just really don’t want to mess this up.
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How long were you down and out?
Big Matty replied to AmberFL's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I took two weeks off from work, although I did feel well enough to go back to work after a week. I made myself take the two weeks because knowing myself, I would have busted a stitch going back sooner. I have a job where I need to lift up to 75lbs, so I went on light duty with a 25lb lifting restriction for 3 weeks. No problems, and I am 2 months out from surgery and back to my pre-surgery lifting. However, I did get lightheaded on occasion, and a little weak. I slept more than usual. I developed back issues due to my weight, and it really started to hurt more than normal the first week or two I came back to work. The pain radiated out of my lower back up to my shoulders and neck. Things have gotten much better as I take the weight off and get back to a more routine of diet and exercise. -
Specialist: 4-5months stall. Explanations please!!
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Ginnnnie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ok, so In hyperparathyroidism, one or more of the parathyroid glands is overactive. As a result, the gland makes too much parathyroid hormone (PTH). Too much PTH causes calcium levels in your blood to rise too high, which can lead to health problems such as bone thinning and kidney stones. Excess parathyroid hormone can lead to negative effects on the body such as osteoporosis which can lead to fractures, kidney stones, decreased kidney function, heart disease, pancreatitis, increased acid secretion in the stomach and ulcers. Primary hyperparathyroidism (pHPT) very often causes Vitamin D deficiency, and so it is common for patients to be told to take Vitamin D supplements. Surgery to remove the enlarged glands is the most common treatment for primary hyperparathyroidism and provides a cure in most cases. As for this weird stall thing, what kinds of working out do you do? When I had stalls for 4, 5, 6, 7 weeks long, I added weight training, core and strength training, and intense cardio, beginners pilates (using the wall for balance/less intensity). I work out 4-5 days per week. On those days, I have higher carbs and calories, on rest days I have less. I make sure to get around 84oz of water per day, and on work out days, at least 20 of those ounces are from a zero sugar gatorade or a Propel. Watch what you drink, because it's super easy to drink your calories and carbs without realizing it. Make sure you're eating enough per day. I do 3 small meals and 1-2 snacks, each about 3 hours apart. You want to make sure you get protein, but don't overdo it. Too much protein isn't good for you, either. You want protein first, then veggies, then carbs when you eat. I cut out sugar and salt, but if I really need salt, I use pink Himalayan salt. I use monk fruit sweetener, if I really need it. I hope this helps out some.
