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I am allowed alcohol, I think I had my first at about 4 months out. At my 6 month appt my doc asked what am I having for alcohol. Not if I'm having it, but what am I choosing. He just wanted to make sure it is a low calorie choice and obvi not excessive I drink prosecco, which is fizzy. My doc approved. The big thing is that you must avoid the super caloric, sugary drinks! Margaritas (unless skinny type), creamy type stuff, etc. That's where you can get into real trouble and your losses will be compromised. Eta I'll be 2 years out in September.
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Correct no alcohol has to deal with common sense snd intelligence which is obviously lacking here . A severe debilitating injury was the cause of my weight gain.
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I am a sleever that drinks. I was allowed at 3 months and I am four months out now. I don't have the same interest in drinking I use to. I used to drink every Friday and Saturday. 2-3 drinks a night. I think meet the definition of social drinker for a women. But that has really changed for a number of reasons. 1.) You really should avoid any carbonation. I took a sip of beer and it didn't feel good. I am not a big beer drinker so no big loss. But did use to like rum and Diet Coke.... That is out too. At bars I have tried skinny margaritas and did fine. You probably need to be willing to try new things to find something low cal and no carbonation. 2). You can't eat and drink so when your out there is a window when you can't drink alcohol. That lowers your overall consumption.... Which is good we are trying to loose weight right? 3.). Because I am focus on weight loss I limit for that reason as well. 4). It goes to your head faster so I limit for that reason too. With that said I DO enjoy an occasional cocktail. Now the disclaimer.... Follow your doctors orders and plan. Alcohol consumption is empty calories and hinders weightloss Third. There is a correlation between WLS and developing new addictions to things like alcohol. Be careful. But I am sure you already knew that.[emoji57]
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Don't they eat a ton of crap and smoke like chimneys at AA meetings? You'd be better off having your glass of wine! . I think your surgeon needs to lighten up. If you were an alcoholic I doubt you'd be asking for permission at all.
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yes maam i can show you the science behind alcohol absorption rates and gastric sleeve patients if you like. its been posted on here often enough as well. yes you drink and work out hard etc and let me ask while you were in your honeymoon, were you eating cake and drinking beers as some have said and did you ignore you surgeons guidelines? Thats what started this whole thing, I can show you all the posts here where people tell others to disregard their surgeons words. That just stuns the hell out of me. especially since its usually from people who themselves are still obese. I really think there is a misery loves company vibe floating around where others are out to sabotage others weight loss in order to look better themselves if they fail. Youve done great, no one can deny it, its inspiring its great and truly I am extremely glad of that fact. Are you advocating cheating during the honeymoon period for others as well? I dont think you are. and those who are truly anger me. EDIZT* i said alcohol metabolism which of course does NOT change, but alcohol absorption and Blood alcohol content are much higher and much faster with LSG patients To wit* Interestingly, 4/10 patients reached the legal limit for driving in the United States at 20 min after the dose of alcohol administered at baseline, 3/10 at 3 months and 1/10 after 12 months. Patients were asked to fast for at least 6 h and were also placed on a hypocaloric liquid diet before surgery and early post-op that may have influenced their hydration and consequently their BAC measured by Breathalyzer. Compared with a normal anatomy where alcohol is absorbed 20 % in the stomach and 80 % in the jejunum, RYGB induces a rapid emptying of the gastric pouch, particularly liquids, and facilitates their absorption into the jejunum where most of the alcohol is absorbed [9]. Additionally, the source of ADH available for first-pass metabolism is less because of decreased gastric volume [21]. LSG produces less drastic gastric anatomical and physiological changes thereby leaving more ADH available for first-pass metabolism of alcohol and increasing the gastric emptying but at a slower pace than in RYGB [22]
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I was told no alcohol for a year, and I am assuming that is because I am not supposed to have any drinks with my meals for a year; alcohol on an empty stomach may go to your head fast! .As others have mentioned, follow your surgeon and NUT's instructions. We chose to have this life changing surgery for a reason, no need to screw it up now.
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4 months post-op ... hit plateau
JeanZ_RN replied to Princess_Ally's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've had more than one stall / plateau since surgery - see my signature area. One thing I think helped me break the most recent stall was to "change it up." I've been following the Atkins diet ever since I resumed solid food a few weeks post-op so I started eating some carbs and increased my calorie intake for a couple of weeks. I eat 4 times a day - 8a, noon, 4p and 8p. I love Quest bars, and I was eating one of those for 2-3 of the 4 meals each day. Someone on this site said she had to cut back on Quest bars to get the wt loss going again, so for the past week I've limited myself to just one bar per day - I eat real food the other 3 times each day now -- but just Protein and fat, keeping the carbs as low as humanly possible. Also I was eating several sugar free hard candies each day, and someone on here said she had to stop eating sugar alcohols for Atkins to work for her, so for the past week I've cut out the hard candies too. I had not been exercising at all since surgery, so now I've started wearing a pedometer to count my steps each day, with a goal of 10,000 steps a day eventually, and I've started taking my dogs for walks several times a week. And sure enough, the pounds have started to come off again, albeit v-e-r-y slowly. I'll TAKE it! The important thing is ... SLEEVE ON!! Best wishes! -
Kaiser Northern California (Richmond, CA)
aqua24 replied to krissyfattofab's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I received my call within a day or two from my pcp referral but I did have to wait a couple months for the orientation. It was hard for me because it took me years to be willing to do the surgery and once I decided I wanted it -I had to wait. I don't know what to recommend regarding losing weight now versus waiting until orientation. They will weigh you at that time and consider that your starting weight. I didn't receive my pre-op goal weight until two weeks later at my surgeons appt. I know some people were able to fast track a bit. I am not sure what qualifies you to do that unless they just asked. Some people had to drive further so they were able to schedule appts on the same day rather than waiting. Again, not really sure about all of that. It seemed to me as long as you were working hard and doing all they asked and not really a concern for them-they seemed to work hard to get you through. Actually for me I think it was exactly 4 months from orientation to surgery date. But I was nervous too so it was ok with me. I also worked hard to keep losing weight even past my pre-op goal weight. They really liked that. My goal is to get the weight off so I wasn't going to stop just at their goal. They said it made my surgery go much smoother. I haven't heard anything bad about any of the Drs. I had mostaedi who was absolutely wonderful. Very nice man. They told us in orientation they always have two surgeons in the room. I don't know for sure but baggs was doing surgery that day too so it may have been both of them. No matter what I have complete faith in my dr. And again, can't say enough nice things about the staff after the surgery. People were over the top nice and helpful. I know everyone has their own experiences but I really hope you guys have as nice an experience as I did. I really believe their strict program helps ensure success. They want you off caffeine, stop alcohol (I would recommend now because they will ask). No smoking, etc. really get in touch with why you overeat. Pay attention to when you are hunger versus bored etc. They will go over everything in orientation. Your binder is your lifeline and you are required to bring it to every meeting etc. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Will I really have to give up my red wine?
Mojo56 posted a topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Surgery is about 3 weeks out. I have to do the liver reduction pre op diet and I know about the post op diet stages. Of course all WLS materials tell you " no alcohol " even later on. I know there's calories but at this stage of my life I really enjoy a glass or 2 of red wine on the weekend nights. Is this gonna be a problem long term? -
Protein Shake/Bars: What's your favorite?
Oregondaisy replied to Roserie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I like the Oh Yeah pb chocolate Protein bars. They are fairly low in carbs and don't have sugar alcohol. That stuff makes me sick. I also like Power Crunch bars. They also are pretty low carb for Protein Bars. Most protein bars have way too many carbs. If you go to the food forum, there is a thread ''Places to get samples" You can order all sorts of samples of Protein drinks. -
Ladyglory, I know what you're talking about. I've done the same thing also with cigarettes, alcohol, drugs...and other things. Our bodies have changed but our minds need to re-program. You did good. I talk to my feet, "Get me the heck outa here!"
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Had my psych eval yesterday. I feel like I might of said to much about my personal history.. just family issues. I have no prior drug or alcohol issues. Do u think it could cause a delay at all. I already have been in therapy for a while now. When I asked the psychiatrist what he thinks after all was said and done. He said I did fine and I should be all set and he was gonna have to go over everything and if he had questions he would call. Was just wondering if anyone felt this way and what happened. Thanks!
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wait we cant have liquor until 1 YEAR post op??????? Im about to be 1 month post op and I plan on drinking on my man's bday this week...I really hope I'll be allowed 2 atleast drink a glass of something cuz dats all I want..im not a heavy drinker so im not dieing. I only drink when I go 2 parties and clubs but if I have 2 wait 1 year then partyin is gonna really blow...I gave up alcohol on the 4th of july (first day of pre-op) and that was HARD cuz there was nothing but liquor and fireworks.. I can live without drinkin beer but no liquor for 1 year sucks...guess turnin 21 this year meant nothing :biggrin:
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Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
DLovelySleeve replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hey Dimples58, Soooooooo.....drinking after wls is truly different for every person. I was also advised by my medical crew that I would not be able to tolerate much alcohol, BUT this was not true for me. I can drink a sailor under the table. Lol! This is not good though because it's a lot of calories and causes weight gain. My first attempt was a shot of whiskey about 6 months post op and I felt nothing. The only time I feel it quickly is if I don't eat first. -
Does Allulose cause dumping?
Darktowerdream replied to Briswife15's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My nutritionist said no sugar alcohols at all but I think they tend to treat them all the same as maltitol that tends to be the worst when it comes to gastric distress. But xylitol and erythritol don’t cause gastric distress and I found neither did Allulose. The one thing about allulose is it’s derived from sugar. My nutritionist said stick to anything below 4 grams of sugar. Which I ate less sugar prior to surgery (low carb) I haven’t gotten up to eating protein bars again yet. I can’t say if the hero bars would cause dumping and every person is different in what causes dumping. I can only suggest to try a bite and see how your body reacts. For some people even if it’s a sugar alcohol their body sees it as sugar. I’m sorry if that’s not helpful. -
Keeping It A Secret
Alli in StL replied to 4sweeties's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm over a year out and I still haven't told many people. I have since told my immediate family and they've all been very supportive, even my mom who usually is not. My grandmother, no matter how often I explain the band, still refers to me getting my stomach stapled. When I requested time off from work, I just said I was having a medical procedure done. On my FMLA forms, no specifics were given. I did have some people ask me what I was having done and I simply told them it was of a personal nature and I didn't feel like sharing. I find that a lot of people have very strong opinions even though they're uninformed. I didn't really want to deal with other opinions. There is one person that I eventually told whose main concern was that I'd become an alcoholic. I just don't feel like educating each and every person who's ignorant on the issue. -
Avocado. The taste & texture of it seems gross now. I don’t really enjoy alcohol like I did. I have a glass about once a month but often don’t finish the glass.
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I had a sf kona ice early out too and it made me so sick! So do sf slurpees. St popsicles are fine- I think the flavorings must me too concentrated or something like that. I got some sf butterscotch candies that I am realizing give me the sweats and hot flash- I'm wondering if they are really sf or if maybe they have a high sugar alcohol. This is a trial and error area for sure! I ate something on Saturday that made me so nauseous and gassy for hours and can't figure it out- I only ate yogurt, yoplait 100. I'm wondering if it uses the same artificial sweetener! Mich W Hw 223, SW 217 CW 196.6 GW 135
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Agreed! Oh, and considering I'm always late to my morning classes (just by a squeek) I wouldn't call it strolling, more like a forced march. Well dang on the pilaties, but practically my entire dance class is dancing, with very little time spent on demos. Any demos we have she, does the move once then we repeat it, and at this point, not a whole lot of new moves are being introduced. It really is non-stop for at least the first 30 minutes while we do our drills. Between our shimmies, drops, lifts, undulations, mayas, camels and geiraphs, and all our isolations.. Well, no talking there. This is a serious, kick-your-ass dance class for dance majors/minors... So, is it alright if I claim 1/2 an hour for the hour of dance? Sorry you had such a crazy day, that's been my week lately, what with major projects due... Oh, and I definately need a fill. I suddenly lost all restriction... again. So this week, my calories have been sky-high in the 1500 calorie range Yeah, I know, normal woman range, not calorie-obsessed-weightloss-driven-demented-woman range. I think this week I managed to get in all my servings of grains! And you bet I'll buy you that drink (or 3) next year at the Bash. (but not 4) I have to believe that alcohol poisoning would be bad-bad-bad for the Banded Brigands...
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Free Atkins Bars and Quick Start Kit
joatsaint posted a blog entry in Gastric Sleeve Surgery - An Unexpected Journey
Hey guys, Atkins is still giving away their Quick Start Kit, which includes 3 Atkins bars - completely free. I did an Unboxing and review video of the contents, it's posted below. The link to the Atkins free offer is below the video. http://goo.gl/1mAv8A - This is the link I promised to the sign up page for the free Atkins Quick Start Kit. There's no catch, they need your email and shipping address, they even pay shipping and handling. The kit included 3 different Atkins bars - one small, one medium, and full size meal replacement bar. All 3 were delicious, it was hard not to eat all three of them. Just a word of caution, the bars are sweetened with sugar alcohols, so those of you that can't tolerate sugar alcohols might not want to eat the bars. The kit also includes some literature: 2 coupons for $1 discounts on Atkins bars, snacks, and meals. An Atkins approved food booklet and the Atkins Quick Start guide that explains the Atkins diet and the phases. As well, there are links to the Atkins support community and where you can download the Atkins app. The Atkins app will help you: *search for nutritional info, *keep track of your carb intake, your weight and how close you are to reaching your goal, *provides a daily meal plan or help you design your own, *has a database of the foods considered acceptable for each phase, *and has a restaurant guide to help you make Atkins friendly food choices when dining out. -
If you don't want to be tempted to drink beer don't read this! Okay, I am in college and as such feel it is my obligation to have an occasional beer. That said I have discovered a band friendly beer (and at the same time come to realize that I am a bona fide alcoholic). First of all, I really enjoy a cold dark beer. The taste is scrumdidlyumptious and the carbination is much less. Step one is to pour your beer into a glass in a manner that causes a large hear to form. Second, allow the head to fall then gently stirr your beer (this can be done conspiculously with a fork or discreetly by swirling your beer casually). Last, if the head fails to fall - touch your finger to the tip of your nose then swirl it in the head. Believe it or not the oil from your skin will cause the head to fall, and viola you have an ice cold band friendly flat beer. Too bad there isn't a method for getting rid of the calories.
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Atkins bars.... (make my tummy rumbly)
DELETE THIS ACCOUNT! replied to marfar7's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I love the Atkins bars but they make me super gassy. It's probably the sugar alcohol that's upsetting your stomach. -
Why are some weight loss surgery patients so clueless?
Sandstress51 replied to VSGAnn2014's topic in Rants & Raves
I can't conceive of the idea of someone being approved for this surgery if they were not well informed, committed, and ready to make a lifestyle change. No alcohol means NO ALCOHOL. You can't have this surgery and expect to go back to your old lifestyle. Why would you go through all this (I'm still waiting for my date) and risk it all on a hamburger or a cocktail?? I'm so concerned about making sure I get all my Protein and Water in, keep up with exercise, and loose skin that I can't even think about what can I eat when. It's a little nerve racking to read some of the questions, but for the most part it is good to see that others have the same questions and concerns that I have. I have found this forum to be informative and heartwarming. But I 'gotta' tell you guys...I'm hearing conflicting stories about loose skin. Some say you will definitely have lots of it - others say it depends on your start weight and your goal weight. I'm 255 lbs @ 5/4" and my goal weight is 170. Will I have a lot of loose skin?? I'm also afraid of lots of face wrinkling and turkey double chin and neck. I'm not to concerned about how I will heal because I intend to follow doctor's orders, dietician's orders, and rheumatologist's orders. Ay ay ay - the vanity! -
Why are some weight loss surgery patients so clueless?
CowgirlJane replied to VSGAnn2014's topic in Rants & Raves
I feel compelled to respond to this because I see this situation a little differently. I had my sleeve 3 years ago and my insurance did require a psychological evaluation. I was tod the purpose was to assess if I could comply with post op instructions,not screening for addictive behavior. Addiction transference is real and it happens to people who were not addicted to alcohol,gambling etc. Pre weight loss. I lost over 160, and am still maintaining under goal but I say the reason people regain is because over time, it's really really hard. It's hard to fathom this when you are in that amazing first 6-18 months, but at 3 years out I need to eat really small. I have to work out (plagued by injuries). I have to face a social world were as the "trim" chick, food is often pushed at me. I do sometimes stress eat but my main issue with food is that I have to eat pretty low calorie, low carbohydrate to maintain and yet I get hungry. No psychological evaluation helps with that. Anyway, just a different perspective. I do feel that the outstanding education and support provided by my surgeon and staff has been critical to my success. I advise anyone to shop for a surgeon with great follow up if at all possible. Several of the staff, one of the surgeons and anothersurgeons wife were sleeved so they are believers! -
I'm surprised at some of the questions I see here and on other WLS boards from new VSG patients, like ... * I just had VSG surgery. What am I supposed to eat now? * My surgeon says not to drink alcohol until X months out. Can I drink now anyway? * When can I start eating ice cream? * I'm four days out and just had chicken McNuggets. Have I damaged my sleeve? * If you plan to drink heavily, first take a Percocet to calm your stomach. I totally get that, even pre-op, this surgery can sometimes be overwhelming. But some patients' questions suggest that even though they've just undergone major surgery they haven't read their post-op instructions, understood their instructions, don't believe what could happen to them if they don't follow instructions, or maybe they just never received any instructions at all. Weird!
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