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Hi I have had DS REVISION surgery. I had a SADI which failed and i found i could literally eat whatever i want without any symptoms and weight rocketed. I visited my surgeon who understands that if all it took was a change of diet nobody would need WLS. I explained to him that I need something which, if i ate the wrong foods (either accidentally or by being gutty), something would give me a kick up the jacksy and remind me not to do it again. So he recommended the DS and advised, should I "test the waters" i will be on the loo within 30 mins and this will happen every time i do. Obviously im not planning to be naughty, but I was told the same thing with the SADI and that failed and before long I was back on the Mars Bars and KFC. I don't want that with the DS but i also need to know it's worked. I had the DS on Monday. As the operation didn't physically touch or reduce the size of the stomach, i am only on a weeks puree food before being allowed normal stuff slowly introduced, but don't have to follow the 6 stage plan. However nothing i have tried so far has given even the slightest twinge and bowel movements have been been exactly the same as before the op (although the chalky green stuff is coming out now), but it's no more frequent and is actually more solid than before. I am aware it's only ben a few days and it's probably much too early for this post, but just wondering if anyone else has had revision surgery and has had no effects from the DS. C.
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Lapband revision
catwoman7 replied to emma6588's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
a lot of people have had revisions from band to either bypass or sleeve. They're both good surgeries and I think you'll find people who are very happy with both! And either is supposedly WAY better than the band!! -
Hello everyone so I had the lapband years ago I don’t remember the year to be honest but I want to say at least 9 years I never really lost much weight and it always gave me problem to this day I sometimes choke on water so I want to do a revision my doctor recommends to do bypass so I guess I want to hear from people who have had a revision from lapband to bypass
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RNY because of GERD, not weight loss?
Tracyringo replied to AmandaQB's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I had a revision on May 23 2020 due to gerd that caused erosive esophagitis D. 6 months later it has gone down to A which is great. I still have burning and am going to have the bravo test soon to find out why I am still producing so much acid since I am still taking 60mg Dexilant, pepcid at night, and carafette. -
I had my revision surgery yesterday morning (sleeve to bypass). I feel great when I’m not moving. Going from a seated position to standing (and vice versa) is painful. I at my first solid food today- salmon mushed up with a fork. So far so good.
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Nov 2020 Bypass Peeps?
Essence33 replied to Lanie Hardy's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi everyone just had a revision. Five yrs ago I had vsg and now 1 week out of having an rny bypass. I can't really say which felt worst. But I'm blessed to have come out of it alive and well. The gas pain still awful but the keeping faith alive. But so far so good. I'm still happy. -
Food Before and After Photos
Starwarsandcupcakes replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
About 4months post VSG to RNY revision and almost a year from my VSG. Rice is definitely a slider food for me so I try to be careful with it. Never thought a bowl with the measurements in it would be handy but here I am. 😂 -
4oz of certain things are much more dense than others. For example 4oz of fresh spinach is about 4 cups(3.4g protein, ~30 calories). Meanwhile, 4oz of chicken breast (25.7g protein, ~140 calories) is about the size of your palm. Also, 4oz of eggs is roughly 2.5 large eggs (15.75g protein, ~180 calories). Then you have things like regular cheddar cheese where 4oz is about a cup shredded (28.4g protein, ~460 calories) and 4oz of fat free cottage cheese (13g protein, ~70 calories) being 1/2 a cup. Im almost 4months post VSG to RNY revision (and a year VSG) and I couldn’t imagine trying to eat 4oz of chicken at one go. But cottage cheese and protein bars (usually around 2oz, 15g protein and ~160 calories for the ones I buy) I can do no problem. And 4oz (1/2 cup) of unsweetened applesauce with a scoop of unflavored protein powder was a lifesaver at 5 weeks post VSG for only 90 calories and 10g of protein. I’m also team “protein shake as coffee creamer” so I know I’m at least getting 20g of protein that way throughout the day depending on the shake I use. I also get the protein soup packets from the bariatricpal shop and have those most days I work. Just mix with hot water and go for around 100 calories and 15g of protein. Find what works for you even if that means getting your protein as liquids throughout the day.
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My spice level preference has increased some. Chicken thighs are the only chicken I can eat now and I was an avid chicken eater pre WLS. I must say that I do find myself craving things I wouldn’t have before surgery like cabbage, butternut squash, and kimchi. A couple months after I had my VSG I cried in the grocery store parking lot because they didn’t have any grape Powerade zero as that and tea was the only liquids I could keep down. After my revision though that got so much better and I’m not sure why. But I do only use a half packet of crystal light in a 16oz bottled water now. 🤷♀️
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I'm having band to RNY revision on December 11th! I am right there with you! Wishing you lots of luck!
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Hey everyone! I'm having surgery this Friday Dec. 11th. Lapband to RNY revision. I am so nervous but so incredibly excited!!!!
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bypass is usually recommended if you have GERD. There's a significant minority of people (I believe I've read 30%, but don't quote me on that) for whom the sleeve will make it worse. Note that means it does NOT make it worse for the rest, but 30% is still a fairly big risk - and you'll find several people on here who originally had the sleeve but were later revised to bypass because of it. I also had GERD and was advised to go with bypass, so I did. I wasn't willing to take that chance. The GERD went away (as it usually does with bypass), and I've been very happy with my decision. malabsorption is rare as long as you keep on top of your vitamins. I don't think bypass is really that much more complex - and it's been around for a long time (much longer than the standalone sleeve surgery). That part of it appealed to me as well. the decision is ultimately up to you (or it SHOULD be, anyway), but there are some medical conditions for which one surgery is more appropriate than the other, and GERD is one of those conditions.
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It was the other way around for me. I really wanted to have the bypass because average weight loss is higher than for the sleeve. But it turned out to be medically contra-indicated for me and I had to have the sleeve instead. I was super-disappointed, but it has turned out well in the end. I got to my weight loss goal and a normal BMI and I didn't have any major complications or issues. I know it's frustrating not to be able to do the surgery you want, but it can still be a total success. The sleeve does exacerbate GERD for a lot of patients, so when you balance the risks/benefits, are you taking that into account as well? Are you willing to possibly have to do a revision surgery at some point down the road if you have the sleeve? I guess another option is not having the surgery at all but obesity carries its own serious risks. It can be hard evaluating all these trade-offs, so I wish you well in making the best decision. 🤗
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I went into my initial consultation thinking that I wanted the sleeve because it seemed like a less extreme, less risky surgery, but the surgeon recommended gastric bypass because my BMI was over 60 and gastric bypass results in more weight loss on average (as NovaLuna said above, some lose more and some lose less than average, but gastric bypass gives you slightly better odds). I did more research in the months before my surgery and by surgery day, I was confident that gastric bypass was the right surgery for me. I've never had GERD, but I've seen a lot of people who get the sleeve talk about developing it (or existing GERD worsening), and I've seen a lot of people who get revisions from sleeve to bypass, either because of GERD or because they didn't lose enough weight with the sleeve. I don't want to get another surgery, so it seemed like bypass was the way to go to minimize my chances of needing it. I think I also had some misconceptions about the risks of gastric bypass. Nowadays, bypass and sleeve have very similar rates of complications, so neither is significantly safer than the other. The sleeve has a higher risk of GERD, and bypass has a higher risk of ulcers. Some doctors allow sleeve patients to take NSAIDs (although I believe it is still not recommended), while NSAIDs are not allowed for gastric bypass patients. You need to take supplements for both, but sleeve patients have a better chance of being able to stop taking them eventually. There is a higher chance of dumping syndrome with gastric bypass, but some people consider that a benefit because it stops them from eating things they shouldn't. Remember that the decision is ultimately yours, and you have the right to go to another surgeon for a second opinion. It's a big decision, so do your research and make sure you can live with the decision you make. Keep in mind, though, that the surgeons are experts who have seen lots of patients and have a pretty good idea of what surgery would give you the best outcome.
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Desperate in Seattle
Starwarsandcupcakes replied to Janine253's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I was weak and in pain for almost 7 weeks after my revision. I also had left sided pain. I brought mine up to my surgeon and he sent me for an upper GI with barium swallow. So definitely bring up the pain. It’s worth investigating. -
Statistically the weight comes off slower with a revision. It DOES come off, just not as quickly. And I've heard a lot of people who've done revisions saying they felt far more restriction with the sleeve verses bypass so I believe that's normal. I don't know why it's hard for you to lay on your left side or why you're still feeling weak. I'd most definitely call your surgeon and ask them for advice on what it could be and if it'll pass on it's own. Sorry I couldn't be more help!
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When I went in for my first consult I had my heart set on VSG (gastric sleeve) because it was less invasive, you took less vitamins, etc. HOWEVER, I left upset because the surgeon told me it wasn't a good choice for me because it statistically has a lower AVERAGE weight loss percentage and my BMI was over 60. They told me my average weight loss for Sleeve would get me to settle at about 230 pounds, Gastic Bypass to 205, and DS would get me to 185. This is AVERAGE. By all means there are people who lose more and people who lose less. So I was very upset because I'm disabled and knew that average is the best I could hope for so I decided after a lot of soul searching and bouncing back and forth to settle on having the Loop DS. My goal is 180, but if I settle at 185 I'd still be insanely happy with that. Yes the malabsorbative aspect of my surgery scared me, but... that aspect in my surgery is reversible. So if it becomes necessary they'd reverse the intestinal bit and I'd be left with just the VSG stomach. It took a while to chose my surgery and I balanced all the pro's and cons. BUT in the end the surgery that you decide is your own. If you are willing to risk the chance of possible making your GERD worse then go for it. It doesn't make it worse for everyone, but there is a large amount of people that it does effect. If you are prepared to potentially have to get a revision down the line if it does happen then that's your choice. Just make a list of pro's and con's, that's my advice.
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Had gastric bypass revision from sleeve end of October and I thought I would have lost more weight. I feel I had more resistance with the sleeve with food than I do after bypass can’t lay of my left side very long because I will have pain... feel weaker. Can anyone relate?? Give me some ideas please 🤷🏻♀️
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Sleeve to Bypass & hungry?
Katiebal_Lecter replied to Christina760's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I’m pre-op right now, I am getting a band revision to GB on December 17. I’ve heard that, with GB, you no longer get the “growling stomach” sensations of hunger. Can you guys who have had your revisions describe what your new hunger feels like... Do you still get the growling? Is it nausea? Emptiness? Can you put into words what this “hunger/starving” feeling is like? Thanks in advance for any insight. -
Sleeve to Bypass & hungry?
ReeTee replied to Christina760's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Oh my goodness I was wondering the same thing about myself. I have not ate but dang I want some chicken. I don’t remember wanting any kind of food when I had my sleep done 2012. just had revision to bypass 12/02/20 -
Banded 10 Years Ago..... considering revision surgery
Katiebal_Lecter replied to Skip111178's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I was banded back in 2008, and lost 120 pounds over the following years. In 2016 I got a piece of broccoli stuck and slipped my band. My original surgeon’s office wouldn’t let me revise and said since I was so successful with the band then we should try to get it working again. Well fast forward three years, never got the band working again, the pain while eating was worse, I had bad acid reflux, and I regained 50 pounds. A different surgeon in the same office said she would revise to gastric bypass after removing my band. She’ll try to do it all in one surgery. She said she would only do the GB in lap band removal cases because with the scar tissue from the first surgery it wasn’t safe to make the new stomach the way it should be with the sleeve. So December 17 (fingers crossed no COVID delays) I’ll finally be getting the band removed and GB done. Good luck with your decision!! -
Nov 2020 Bypass Peeps?
TrueNorth1 replied to Lanie Hardy's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had the band, not the sleeve, but also had the revision due to reflux and heartburn. It is like night and day. I can lie flat now! I couldn't do that for so long! I can have liquid or something to eat and lie on my couch....couldn't do that without food or liquid coming up. I would throw up at least twice a day and I was always woken up at night to have to get the reflux out of my system. I now sleep through he night! And have zero pain. I can have tomato soup and tomato sauce! Take away the weight loss that comes from the bypass, the revision was over the top worth it to not feel pain and have to throw up all the time. You will be so happy! -
Banded 10 Years Ago..... considering revision surgery
honeyjasmine replied to Skip111178's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Have you made any decisions on what you're going to do yet? Like you I had a lapband in 2010, I am having revision surgery to a bypass in January....I am heavier now than I was before I even got my band. 😬 I had a consultation with my surgeon - he said he doesn't recommend sleeve revisions from a lapband, so that is why we went with the bypass. The lapband and bypass work in different ways, so you won't necessarily be in the same boat 10 years down the line....but I absolutely understand your worries. As for recommendations, I'm having mine done with Healthier Weight. The surgeon (Rishi Singhal) who specializes in revision surgery is based in Birmingham so I'm having to travel up there from London but I'm happy with his experience and level of expertise in revision surgery. I found out about him after seeing him on the news having done a very large ladies bypass - BBC Midlands Today interview Rishi Singhal about weight loss surgery and NHS funding - YouTube Good luck with whatever you decide! -
Anyone else having Tummy tuck, breast lift/Aug in January?
Lynnlovesthebeach replied to Kris77's topic in Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery
I wouldn't worry about pain. It's pretty extensive surgery (12 1/2 hrs!) so of course there is pain. But, there are plenty of drugs available to control pain! I only took one dose of narcotics immediately after I came home from the hospital. I then took gabapentin and celebrex around the clock for the next 2 weeks and then just when I felt I needed it. I did get a refill on the gabapentin because I used to get nerve pain at night. If I had felt the need and the pain was bad enough I wouldn't have hesitated to take something stronger. The healing on the lower body lift has been perfect and the scar is looking pretty good. The incisions on both my arms opened up over my biceps. The right was pretty small and healed nicely after a little wound care. The left was pretty big and is almost healed but will need a scar revision in the future. It's not uncommon for that to happen when you think about how tight they pull your skin. He removed 9 inches of skin from my left arm! It is half the size it used to be! I measured 73 inches of incision from my LBL and brachioplasty! My brachioplasty was considered "extended" too. The scar goes from the lower edge of my boob to midway between my elbow and wrist. There are a lot of sutures involved and it's when your body spits out sutures that didn't dissolve that can cause the incision to open. I'm not sure how you would use crutches after that surgery. I guess you would have to discuss it with your doctor. The armpit scars actually healed the quickest. I have my next appointment in Feb. I'll be 6 months out from this surgery and we will discuss and plan my next surgery-breast lift and back lift. However, I just had 2 biopsies in my left breast (benign) so he is not sure he will do my boobs yet. Even though there is pain involved and long term wound care and scars...I'd do it all over again. I love my results! It was worth every dollar I spent. I did not use insurance. -
Worried that doctor made my pouch too big?
Coexister replied to Coexister's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had revision due to bad reflux that was causing damage to my vocal chords but I also never reached my goal weight with the sleeve. I am hoping to reach 145 with this revision. I am currently at 154 and seem to be holding steady and am hoping for another drop. ; ) I was about 173 pre-surgery before the pre-op diet. I am now eating regular foods and am now realizing that there is a restriction and that if I do eat too much, it hurts really bad. I have had a few episodes with dumping however my body doesn't throw things up. I think it's because of the hiatal hernia repair with mesh that keeps foods from coming up. I wish I could throw up as it would be easier and provide relief at times but my body was always one that to hold things down and just make me suffer. So instead, I get the sweats and the pains and just suffer for a period of time. I am pretty much noticing that there is no indication of "about full" and that I am going to have to measure stuff and just stop before reaching the point the of no return. It seems to be all or nothing with this pouch. Once it realizes it is full, it's too late and I have overdone it. I probably need to learn to slow down even more and see if that works but I don't seem to get a signal to the brain that I am full? Maybe, I just never feel hungry and am just eating because I know I need too and so there is no signal because the head doesn't think it is hungry? I guess I need to take stock of what my body is feeling more and see where it goes. I am so terrified of drinking because it goes down so easy and I am always afraid that I am drinking too fast as being told that I could stretch my pouch by drinking to fast. So with that I am constantly trying to slow down my drinking and making sure I don't gulp down water. My bowels are definitely acting different and I am hoping they level out at some point and they get easier as well as I am currently living on Miralax twice daily to keep things smooth, LOL. This is definitely a different journey then the sleeve. Seems the sleeve was easier?
