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worry is completely natural. talk to the doctor openly and honestly about your concerns, issues and fears. A good surgeon should have answers and make you more comfortable with your decision. You CAN do this. You CAN improve your life and have a new and exciting chapter. message me anytime make a list of what you want from life. see how many of them surgery will help you achieve. The liver shrinking diet that i was given is not as bad as I thought (Dr plans vary!) and am already doing it without an exact surgery date. I am not on liquids but low carb (keto) which is doable for the short term. come here for support, ask questions or release your fears. we want tos we you live your best life!
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I think the South Beach diet format is far better than keto and sustainable for life. South Beach can become a way of life.
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Bypass but with keto
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to mandy0518's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
True keto is high fat, moderate protein, low carb or ultra low carb. So I think most bariatric patients don't really hit the actual macros to be considered real keto. We're told to do lower fat, higher protein and complex carbs only if we're still hungry after we eat our protein and veggies - well that's a generalization, it does vary widely. But I think weight loss patients do low carb if anything at all but very few do actual keto. -
some people who are a ways out do Keto, but this early out, you have to make sure you're meeting your protein requirements and you can only handle so much food, so it might be challenging to do a strict Keto diet.
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I was a fan of fruity drinks and Long Island Ice Teas. However, as I did keto WOL for so long before surgery, I went to having an occasional diet coke and rum (technically keto friendly), HOWEVER, this was more of a once or twice a month thing before surgery. For me, since I"m only 8 weeks out and I'm in my THIRD stall AND I am a very very very slow loser even sticking to my dr's plan 100%, while I have had brief temptations, I know I'm 1) Not Ready to try this 2) Unsure if I should ever try it 3) Not willing to add something else into the confusing equation of why I am stalled yet again All this being said, I will not lie and say that I feel 100% confident that I will never have another drink. We are going on a Christmas cruise with my 89 year old MIL as she wanted the whole family to be together at Christmas and wanted it to be on a cruise...so we are all going. I have wondered about the possibility of having a drink at this time.. Unfortunately I will be only 5 months out at this time. I wish it was more like 1 year. I'm also unsure if I want to try my 1st drink, if I even do, on a ship with my whole family around...have no idea if it goes awry, how fast I could get to a place of privacy....you know? I have wondered what in the heck I would 'mix' any alcohol with and my eldest pointed out that my Premier Clear Protein Tropical Punch drinks would probably work...I was like "yeah, thanks for pointing that out...and now it is in my head". Only thing I know for sure is that for today, I choose not to drink alcohol.
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My nutritionist recommends 40-80g net carb per day at the nutrition class. I think that might be once you're on regular food again. I am very carb sensitive so this is fine with me. I spent months counting calories pre op and lost nothing until I started following the carb guidelines. I've only ever lost weight on keto or atkins so it's not a shock. My surgery is a month away and I've lost 7 pounds this last week from 297 to 290 staying below 50 g of carbs and 1200 calories. I got down from my highest weight of 315 to 265 on low carb but regained back to 297 after spending months on prednisone for rhuematoid arthritis last year
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Hey vets question about stalling
Dub replied to LxA's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Not sure about what your post op diet looks like. My surgeon was very clear and laid out a very simple eating plan. Specific meal sizes that were initially all chicken, steak, fish.....then at 6 months begin adding crunchy vegetables. So....by definition....it's a keto diet to begin with so there is no other strategy for me but to follow the normal post op diet. Stalls are what occur when I don't. -
😂 Get used to it. When it comes to the topic of diet, food, calories and especially carbohydrates it can get quite controversial. Low-carb or keto diets are very en vogue these days, just as low-fat diets were a few years ago. Go with what you feels most comfortable to you and don't be afraid to make adjustments as time goes by and weight goes down. Your nutritional needs will change over time. And go with what feels most comfortable to you, not to your best friend, your surgeon, your dietician, a random person online, your mother or Uncle Bob's best buddy. Talk is cheap. That includes dietary advice.
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Lap Band to Gastric Sleeve Revision Surgery 6/24/2015
Seattle51 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Greetings Gastric Sleevers! My name is Jay. I am 45 years old and I have been Morbidly Obese my entire Life. Here is my story. I had a Work Physical in December 2006. When I stepped on the scale I weighed 326lbs. That was the most Obese I had ever been, and enough was enough. I had had it. I needed to do something drastic to stop the weight gain. I decided to have a Lab Band. At the time I didnt want to have any physical changes to my body, and people were having very good weight loss success on the Band. In February of 2007, I had my surgery. From February 2007 to September 2007 the band worked great!!! I weighed in at 207lbs. I was extremely happy!!! But sometime in September the tubing to the band developed a kink and then the tubing cracked and the band was worthless. March of 2008 I underwent my second surgery, this time it was a port and tubing replacement. Everything seemed fine until I went in for my first fill. When they tried to fill the band they werent able to. The tubing was kinked again!!! Are you F'ing kidding me? I had enough and was just going to do my best on what the surgeon had put in the band ( I think it was 9cc's). It wasnt enough, I started to gradually put on weight. In 2012 I had enough again. I went in to have the band filled under X-Ray Fluroscopy. For whatever reason the band took in 15 cc's The band I had was only supposed to hold 12. Needless to say the band was closed off, and I couldnt eat or drink anything. Two days later I had emergency surgery to release the band. The surgery went well, but the Surgeon didnt replace the band. When I went in for a fill they put in the Max CC's of 12. Guess what? No restriction. Yup in was stretched out so much it was ineffective again! I had had enough with the Lap Band, it was nothing but a big giant headache for me. I decided to have a Gastric Sleeve in 2015. I had my surgery on June 24th 2015. The day of the surgery I weighed in at 275lbs. Today is September 11th and I am down to 240lbs. I am very happy with my Sleeve, but the adjustment to the new diet was very hard for me. I am doing 3 Protein shakes a day and I added 1 KETO OS drink a day to my diet. It has made a huge difference. My energy levels are through the roof and I feel absolutely Fantastic!!! The weight is coming off twice as fast for me ( from 2 pounds a week to 4) I took the time to research this product and it is the best decision I have made in a long time. Check it out for yourself: http://C7W6R4.pruvitnow.com -
Going back to basics, keto and weight watchers did not work for you. It may be time to seek counseling.
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Stella, with the macros you just mentioned you are actually the poster child for "perfect" keto as it was originally defined by Dr. Atkins and Dr. Westman. LOL. Which is cool. But I don't think @heycrystal2052 wants to be that low. And that's cool too! I love the spark or awareness she had when @GreenTealael posted her screen captures. Love light bulb moments. And I bet she will do awesome and get back to losing with just recharting her food plan a little bit toward the <100 or <75g of carbs per day. Maybe even 50g of carbs would allow her to keep fats low and still give her enough carb diversity to keep her full!! Just for grins I plugged your macros in Stella and this is what it shows. Perfect "keto" or LCHF (low carb healthy fat) as I love to call it. I use the free MFP program so it only allows me 5% increments rather than 1% increments to adjust to macro targets:
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Absolutely agree. The prob that I can see is that she has a "set calorie threshold" that she wants to stay within and your cals are made up on only the 3 macros: protein, fat, carbs. So if you keep carbs low enough to get into keto...for most of us that's around 30g total carb max, then you have to fill up her calorie threshold with either protein or fat. OR drop the cals. Which is what I do. So she either has to eat a ton of protein (which can keep you out of ketosis) or she has to eat a wad of fat, which none of us need right now. Right? The solution is to really simply just hit your daily protein goal, stay at your carb # that you've set and let fat fall until you are comfortable and where those cals end up are where they end up. Mine usually is somewhere between 650-850 per day using that general rule.
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Do you still identify as a wls patient?
ProudGrammy replied to Healthy_life2's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
@Ms skinniness hi there glad you are back!! keto is working for you - great coming to this board is good for my health (and yours too) keep up the great job kathy -
I noticed when I was eating g like I did my macros was keto. In order for me to loss I have to eat under 1000 calories. It works. Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Feeling of indigestion 5 no the post op rny please help if you can
lf1227 replied to lf1227's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Okay, do you have time to elaborate? I've seen that many people go keto here post op and my surgeon never spoke against it. Not questioning you but if you have some feed back i want it. Sent from my SM-G950U using BariatricPal mobile app -
just so you know, a 10- to 20 lb rebound from your lowest weight is VERY common in year 3. I think it's just your body settling in to a weight it feels comfortable at - your new "set point". Of course, you can still lose again if you cut enough calories - but it could be a bit of a struggle if you're fighting against where your body wants to be. I've been dealing with the same thing since year 3 (and here I am in year seven...). different things work for different people. I count calories, which my dietitian hates (she's into "intuitive eating"), but I'm obviously not cutting back enough or I'd be losing weight. It's tough... I know other vets who've done Weight Watchers, Keto, and/or intermittent fasting. Whatever works - some approaches are more effective than others, depending on the person. to respond to your questions (sort of, anyway...), I don't do low carb - but the vast majority of my carbs are the healthy kind (fruit, veggies, whole grains). I have to average around 100 grams of protein a day because I malabsorb it (we discovered this pretty soon after my surgery), and I do manage to get that in every day. Other than protein, it's really just calories for me. If I stay in the 1500-1700 range, I can maintain my weight - but I'd really love to lose 10-15 lbs (!!)
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i just went to the mr. olympia convention and tried Quest for the first time. they have a new waffle flavored one that legit tastes like a waffle with maple syrup. altho sweet for me the taste is amaze. they also have a new snickerdoodle Protein cookie that's killer. they also now have protein chips, goldfish crackers and pasta! the chips and goldfish are amaze. have tried the Pasta yet but i'm excited. their ingredients are far superior to others so i'll keep trying their stuff. it really fits my keto lifestyle.
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My gut is PISSED OFF! 2 month old newbie needs help! Offer some keto guidelines?
GeTnBackuP posted a topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Hello. I’ve had some success on keto and Atkins type diets in the past and I am curious how they work post op and more than a little nervous to start it up again now since they are basically higher fat and my past probs there...plus I’m only two months + post op. Lil backstory- I had my gallbladder taken out 11/2016 and a year later my body still hasn’t made up its mind on how to process fats (mainly dairy, meat based fats are tolerable) Some days I can totally tolerate minimal dairy (like in my morning coffee or some meat wrapped cheese/pickle meals). Other days I take one sip of my AM coffee and I bolt straight to the bathroom & for the rest of the day- this is low fat, whole milk, half and half or even full on heavy cream. I literally can drink/eat FULL fat one day and get the intestinal freak outs the next! I don’t get it! I had VSG on 10/31/2017 (2.5 mos) and still struggle having dairy back into my diet since I’m pretty much experiencing the same thing. Now I make my one morning coffee with chocolate Premier Protein shake and do OK but still struggle with any other dairy...cheese, low fat sour cream, yogurt...but I WANT TO COOK WITH THIS STUFF! PLUS I NEED THE CALCIUM. Ricotta bake- HELLO! I want to be able to eat that without excusing myself from the table after one bite. Can I do a modified Keto and/or Atkins type eating program that allows me to eat lower fat (mostly dairy) type foods and still be satisfied and lose weight? Maybe less fat and more protein? Is there something like that- toss in some whole greens maybe? I’m earnestly trying and reaching out for help so please don’t give me arrogant attitude. I enjoy most of you but geez the power trips here are sometimes too much...kinda like the trots I get lately many thanks and so much love and appreciation to all of you that offer kind supportive suggestions...Tess -
When can I Keto - 2 weeks post no loss
magpie26 replied to Fallinfast's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Keto is (was) not a fad diet. It's effective for children and some adults with seizures and other health issues. People assume it is a fad, all the new low carb diets are based on it. My nutritionist said if you wanted to do keto at stage 4 it's fine, but I'm not keen on giving up dairy and I'm growing green beans lol! -
Pizza crust almond flour
Highly_Undermedicated replied to trecia gordon's topic in Food and Nutrition
I purchase ready made Cauliflower crust in the freezer section at Publix. 2 months ago they had one brand overstock marked down from $8 to $1.99! So we purchased 10 of them. Removed them from their boxes (they were plastic wrapped too) and stored in deep freezer. Took up less space without the boxes. But we used them as "pita"/flatbread in greek nachos, pizza crust, breadsticks, crackers. So delicious. We also make Fathead keto dough. Its so simple and yummy. You can use it for breadsticks, pita alternative and a not so crispy cracker too. But it still works. https://www.wholesomeyum.com/recipes/fathead-pizza-crust-low-carb-keto-gluten-free-nut-free/ -
Has anyone tried the Ketogenic lifestyle after RNY
WV_Chef posted a topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I know I saw a thread that mentioned Keto somewhere but I would like to start a new one. I just found this amazing Keto food list and was wondering if anyone has had any success with this new lifestyle change after RNY. Please give me your experiences. Keto Food list -
Demographics - Opinions - Weighing Options (no pun intended)
Berry78 replied to P-Diddy's topic in The Guys’ Room
Whew! Dodged the bullet on that erroneous heart attack thing.. Doc: "Sir, I have good news! You didn't have a heart attack!" You: "What heart attack?" Excellent plan losing as much as you can before surgery.... and keto will get you there! -
low carb pre op diet
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to KimA-GA's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I did keto a while back and had the keto flu for about a week. The bariatric diet and keto are actually the same except bariatric diet wants your fats 50 or less per day and keto wants HEALTHY fats higher. I did the bariatric diet for 2 1/2 months and my body hated it. I would stall over and over. I decided to switch to keto again and I haven't had a stall in the month I've been doing it and have steadily lost. No keto flu this time, tho. But it's normal and goes away. I keep my calories between 1000-1150 per day (I work out and need the extras so my body doesn't think it's starving and hold on to everything). I keep my carbs between 25-35 per day. My protein stays around 75-85 per day. My fats are usually around 70-80. And I'm completely sugarfree or very low sugar (such as certain fruits or veggies). I work out for 45 minutes per day, and I generally take in around 75-90oz of fluids (depending on the type of workout I did that day). -
i do not have a surgery date yet, but have been trending down my carb count to prepare for my 3 week low carb/keto diet (50 total carbs a day). Figure it will help me loose more weight before surgery and be more psychologically comfortable and ready for the whole process. i have finally got myself mostly down under 50 carbs a day (6/7 of the last days under 51) and am starting to feel the “keto flu”. I have had a lot of dreaming at night, which is unusual.. headaches the last few days and today general body aches. no fever or cough etc. anyone else experienced this with cutting carbs?? how long did this last?? did the keto actually help loose more weight ? thank you for sharing!
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What are you eating for a low carb breakfast?
TheRevisionedVagabond posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Trying to map out my meal plan & I'm so used to overnight oats, that it's hard to think I won't be doing that if I want to accelerate my weight loss. Every low Carb Breakfast I google, it's all Keto. My NUT wants me on low carb, low fat, high Protein & I'm sick of doing scrambled eggs every morning. What are you eating for a low carb breakfast?! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
