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Yeah, this makes you feel like sh*t. When I went in for mine, the nurse prepping me looked at me and said "hm, I don't mean to be rude, but I'm not sure you can fit in the machine". She then proceeded to - I kid you not - use her arms to grab around me to get a "measurement" of my body, and then held her arms like that and left the prep room. She was going to use her arm measurement to see if I would fit. Again, this actually happened. She then comes back in and says OK, let's try having you on the table and have it go in just to see before we prep you. I fit in that thing fine. Then she comes back to me in the prep room with a hospital shirt in size L. Euro size L. That's what I wear now, 169 lbs lighter. Pretty annoyed at this point I say 'look, I can't fit into that, can't you find a larger one?' and she's like no, sorry, gotta put this on. So now I've been utterly humiliated, been taken in in front the 4 people behind the screen, done a 'is he too fat' test, now back out to the room and handed a tiny button-down shirt that cannot possibly cover any of me. With this open, I then consult with the very nice doctor, who apologizes for the whole thing and does the test. But man, this just strengthened my resolve that if ever given the chance, I'll f'in fight for people of larger sizes' right to quality healthcare, too (and access to bariatric surgery).
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A good rule of thumb: if you're hungry, eat. Choose something good, eat slowly, protein first - you know the drill. But being hungry simply isn't sustainable, and it's why most of us got to needing bariatric surgery. Restrictive eating --> hunger --> giving in to the hunger ("oh to h*ll with it") --> gain weight --> eat restrictive ("oh no, I have to eat LESS!"). You see the problem. Your body said it needs nutrition. Listen
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Hi all- I'm almost EIGHT years out VSG! I can't believe how time has flown by. I have some regain and have been refocused to get it off. I joined CrossFit several years ago and really enjoyed it but I'll be honest, I suffer gym anxiety so bad that I avoid going at all. The anxiety has gotten progressively worse over the last 3 years of attending. I changed gyms and even got my husband to join but I'm suffering bad. I literally have panic attacks. The irony in this is that I'm a psych nurse practitioner and spend my days treating folks with the same sorts of issues. So I know this is actually legit. I was on YouTube one day looking at some random video, and an ad came up showing this at-home dance program that involved a group of people, and they were doing these dance/exercise routines to multiple genres of music. I sadly don't remember what the heck it was called but wondering if anyone here knows, or knows of something similar?? I'm going to be likely leaving my CrossFit gym and since I'm really trying to get back to more of a bariatric-focused program, trying to increase my aerobic activity at home. I thought something like this might be a fun option. I hope someone can direct me... Thanks!
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So my bariatric doctor is trying to convince me to get the sleeve instead of the Bypass, which I thought would be better for me being that I have GERD & a hiatal hernia. He says he can fix my hiatal hernia and after he fixes it, I would be fine and won’t develop another hernia. Now I’m confused and not sure which surgery would be the best for me. Has anyone who’s had the sleeve ever developed a second hiatal hernia after it was originally fixed during a sleeve surgery?.
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So my bariatric doctor is trying to convince me to get the sleeve instead of the Bypass, which I thought would be better for me being that I have GERD & a hiatal hernia. He says he can fix my hiatal hernia and after he fixes it, I would be fine and won’t develop another hernia. Now I’m confused and not sure which surgery would be the best for me. Has anyone who’s had the sleeve ever developed a second hiatal hernia after it was originally fixed during a sleeve surgery?.
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Pain under rib cage left side
HalfCourt replied to StratusPhr's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I’ve had this for almost two years. Bariatric dr says it could be scar tissue or iBs. I have iBs but it’s weird, it’s always in the same spot. Did you get yours figured out? -
1 week away from changing my life
wendyrlandry posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
HI! I'm a 46 year old female from South Louisiana. I will be having gastric sleeve on 3/16/22. I'm currently 5'3", 245lbs and my goal weight is 145lbs. (if i lose more, that's a bonus but i felt 145 was a realistic goal.) I am insulin resistant with HBP. Thyroid disease runs rampant on both sides of my family, as does diabetes. I'm borderline Type 2 and my TSH levels are also borderline. I've tried for years to lose weight through diet and exercise. I think i tried every fad diet out there. While i would lose weight initially, the minute i was left to my own resources, the weight just piled back on. Exercise was a whole different issue that my PCP just couldn't understand. It didn't matter what i was doing or where i was doing it, after 15 minutes i began to overheat and 2x had to be taken for medical attention. (one of those times was doing nothing more than walking in my neighborhood.) My PCP always said it was my BP causing that and if I would just lose weight, it would stop. Well doc, how do you propose i do that if i can't exercise without passing out? When my employer finally started covering bariatric surgery, if certain comorbidities were met, i jumped at the chance. That is when i found out i was insulin resistant. I'm about to hit the clear liquid stage of my pre-op diet and am very stressed. Yesterday I had issues with nausea and vomiting every time i tried to drink a protein shake or protein water. I just couldn't get it down. I hear that is normal the 1st 48-72 hours of the liquid diet but yesterday was day 5. (i was able to find the Fairlife portien shakes and those didn't make me gag.) I'm really nervous about the clear diet. Any suggestion on clear protein drinks that taste good and won't make me gag? (I have tried the Gatorade g2 in fruit punch and the blue one. The blue was one the only one that didn't make me gag as much. I also have tried the Protein2O and those were just awful as well.) I have found some good broths that i will try and i have the Isopure unflavored protein powder. I tried adding the powder to warm broth and that was a disaster. Thanks in advance for the tips. I'm excite to start this new phase in my life and get healthy, not only for me but for my husband and kids. I beat cancer, i can't let obesity be the thing that kills me. -
Why am I craving this particular food? (Food mention trigger warning)
PuraVida37 replied to PuraVida37's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thank you for that suggestion. I do occasionally indulge--I like the taco flavored ones. However, I am recently trying to avoid those too because they are a trigger food for me to want to binge other slider foods. This is just clear proof that whoever says bariatric surgery is the "easy way out" sure is a big fat liar! LMAO -
Tropical Smoothie Cafe.
PuraVida37 replied to ShoppGirl's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My nutritionist said Hard Pass. Too much sugar in the fruit and veg, even if you got it with whey mixed in. Besides, the drinks are huge, even pre-surgery. You're better off making your own controlled smoothies at home. Here's a video link to a bariatric surgeon making a smoothie -
Hello This is my first post. I hope I put it in the right forum for "April Surgeries". It's nice to meet everyone. I have been on this journey since April of last year. Im excited, anxious, all the feelings. I am still trying to cut back and make life style changes. I am also trying to go ahead and cut to one smoothie a day. But my smoothies are yummy, the sample smoothie the Drs office gave me. Does is matter what brand? I tried a sample: Bariatric Fusion:Meal Replacement orange cream...IT was ok but a terrible after taste. I have seen people saying they tried Premiere or other drinks, are these allowed? I also see people saying broths, when did you start broths? Pre or post? How is everyone's significant other with their surgery? Mine hates the idea, but finally starting to show support. I wish I could truly get him on the same page as me though. My consultant for surgery is March 31st,
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I've been dealing with really intense constipation since my surgery Feb 14th. I was first suggested Colace and that didn't do much for me. Next, my doc suggested Senna tea (also called "Smooth Move" in American grocery stores). That worked pretty well. I'm still having issues so my doctor also is having me drink prune juice, psyllium husk, and milk of magnesia which is pushing things along better. My doctor has also recommended to me glycerine suppositories but tbh that didn't work for me. So those are some bariatric-friendly options. One of them or multiple hopefully will work for you. I haven't heard of castor oil being suggested because it might be difficult for the stomach/nausea or cause intestinal discomfort. But at the end of the day, just ask your team and see what they recommend for you! Best of luck with it. I know firsthand how awful post-op constipation is.
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Recommend good sources of information.
Guest replied to Kia kaha's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I second the recommendation of Denise Ratcliffe. That's a great book. I learned a lot of the actual scientific studies on outcomes from bariatric surgery. Because it helps you understand not just the physiology behind it, but also some of the factors that you can influence for success. It's a jungle out there, and I spent tons of hours on it, so I can't really recommend anything specific, but if you're sorta okay reading science, it's well worth it. -
Recommend good sources of information.
Kia kaha posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Hi all. I’m pre op, and I love to be well informed, from good, verified sources, and I would like to share a book title that I have downloaded on my ereader….who knew there were books on bariatric surgery?! It such a great resource and compliments the advice I’m getting from the psych and the dietician. The book is called “Living with Bariatric Surgery. Managing your mind and your weight” by Denise Ratcliffe. Published on 2018, so all up to date. I really recommend it, it’s been helpful in my decision making process so far. Any other really great resources that people can recommend? Particularly for after surgery, both short and long term. P.S I have no connection or interest in the book, just thought it would be good to share -
I agree about the protein bars. I've never heard of these. I don't consume any protein bars, so I'm unfamiliar with them. There's a "10:1 ratio rule" and it is a guide to use to determine if the calorie to protein ratio is bariatric friendly. For every 1 gram of protein, you should have no more than 10 calories. So in the almond butter Perfect Bar there's 320 calories, but only 13 grams of protein. For a food that has 13 grams of protein per serving, to be bariatric friendly it should have no more than 130 calories per serving. Sent from my SM-G991U1 using BariatricPal mobile app
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Psychiatric Evaluation done... Finally.
liveaboard15 replied to liveaboard15's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yea for some reason my location is very picky. I talked to other bariatric centers and they dont even require any kind of psyc exam. -
yes - that does become a challenge for most of us as we get several months out (or sometimes a year or more) and "diet fatigue" sets in. It's a constant battle. I just have to keep reminding myself of where I came from, and how much I DON'T want to ever go back there... as someone suggested, working with a therapist who works with bariatric patients (or even eating disorders in general) might be helpful - I haven't done that myself, but I know several others from various forums who swear by it. P.S. no - your stomach almost certainly hasn't stretched back out also, sometimes I'll do things like eat a big bowl of bran cereal - or eat a bunch of raw carrots (which irritate my stomach if I eat too many of them) to stop a snacking attack...(when nothing else - like talking myself down - works!). Or just get the hell out of the house...
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Sleeve or Bypass? Apprehensive...
Splenda replied to MissNicole's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was in a similar boat where my surgeon told me that either RNY or VSG would be fine and left it up to me. I considered the pros/cons and worried about the effects of RNY. I ultimately went with RNY because I wanted the surgery that gave me the best chance to lose the most weight. If you know you will be self-accountable for your Vitamins, you have already drastically reduced the chances of long-term bad effects. Obviously, there are no guarantees that everything will turn out OK (and that weighed on my mind when I was on the gurney, waiting for my surgery to start). But long-term complications are relatively rare in people who are committed to taking their Vitamins, hitting their Protein goals, etc. And taking the Vitamins isn't difficult -- get a good bariatric multivitamin and find a workable routine for taking it (I keep mine at my desk at work and take it when I get to work). I am very happy with my surgery. I am 41 and am in the best health/shape/weight I have been since college (it has been at least 20 years since my weight was so low). I was also a sweet tooth and addicted to food. But I have to say that not being addicted and not being constantly tempted by sweets is such a liberating feeling. The surgery definitely changes the hormones in your stomach in ways that change how you feel about food. I am 6.5 months out and here is my response to most foods: meh. It's there. It has nutrients. It will taste fine. As someone said in another thread, I no longer feel like my body is fighting against my efforts to lose weight. -
Self pay questions
liveaboard15 replied to RaisnHL's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
LOL Yea cheapest was $15,500, One reason i chose this hospital is because they do offer a type of insurance that covers any complication that may come up during surgery because my insurance will not cover anything involving bariatric surgery or complication. But yea USA hospitals are very expensive compared to the rest of the world and yes most doctors do drive exotic cars. One doctor near where i live use to drive a McLaren. tho a few years ago that doctor was having his car transported by a semi truck and it got stuck on railroad tracks and got hit lol. -
Went to the support group, now cold feet?
Splenda replied to mrsjo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think this article gives a very fair view of what life is like with bariatric surgery and a good layman's explanation of how it changes you, beyond just shedding pounds. Read it if you have cold feet. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/health/bariatric-surgery.html -
Went to the support group, now cold feet?
Guest replied to mrsjo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You're very welcome. Honestly, bariatric surgery - even just being a person who needs that - was such a big thing pre-op, and it's such a minor thing in my life 15 months out. Do some digging into obesity studies. You won't doubt it afterwards. Check out (citing from memory, but it's a start for your googling): Harvard Health Biggest Loser study (shockingly, people's metabolism slows and is still much slower even after regaining all the lost weight) Studies on rat populations that have their calorie pool reduced (lowest social hierarchy rats do not starve as predicted, they get fatter!) Studies on how childhood stress and trauma alter your body's idea of a weight set point (trauma or stress = your body stops wanting to maintain a healthy weight, but wants to add weight constantly) Overfeeding studies (it turns out feeding people 1000 calories per day in a 100% controlled environment does not, at all, mean a similar weight increase - so calories in, calories out is dead as an absolute concept. Obesity is a chronic disease. It's one we have tools to manage. But we need to get rid of the idea that bariatric surgery is capitulation, an easy way out, or for losers. You two's feeling of We Can Do This! is spot on - but why do it without using the tools we know work? Best of luck. -
Went to the support group, now cold feet?
Guest replied to mrsjo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This. People think about bariatric surgery in a way that's nowhere near close to reality. Surgery won't change your dieting behavior. Sure, it will in the short term, but if I wanted to gain weight at 15 months out, I probably could. Surgery will change your body's response to the diet behavior. It will stop fighting you. You'll need both the mindset of 'we can do this!' and surgery to make it happen. I hate to push surgery like this, but there's no real data to support any other way of thinking about this: Find out why you're obese. If disordered eating, fix that first. Make a plan. (This is the We Can Do This! phase) Choose a surgery carefully. Look at the data, lifestyle requirements, cost, recovery etc. Make plan for how you'll get the surgery and for how you'll recover. Start path and new lifestyle. Note: it's not about what you weigh now. Most bodies will want to get to their highest weight without surgery. We all know the high from having lost 20 lbs on our own. And we all know the "wtf happened?!!" when you gained it all back. The body is really that powerful. It will make you eat, eventually. That's why surgery works. It's not a behavior modification. It's a hormonal intervention to give you a second chance to be a healthy weight (whatever that may be for you). -
Went to the support group, now cold feet?
Splenda replied to mrsjo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can only speak from my experience. I had several of those "I can do this without surgery" moments throughout my life. I first started down the path of surgery in 2013/14. I was doing the Tim Ferriss Slow Carb Diet (6 days/wk, eat only beans/meats/veggies, 7th day is cheat day) and having great success. I explained what I was doing to the bariatric surgery coordinator and her response (paraphrased) was, "That's nice, but you won't be able to do that post-surgery." I didn't want to hear that, figuring that I had already lost 40+ pounds this way and cancelled my appointments. I ended up losing roughly 150 pounds on that diet, but gained it all back. Why? It reinforced binge eating habits and didn't set me up for future success. Like a lot of overweight people, I thought my next lifestyle change (clean eating! intermittent fasting! keto!) would be the one that allowed me to lose the weight and keep it off. I finally realized that I was only fooling myself. It takes an incredible amount of discipline to lose weight and keep it off without surgery. You have to commit to eating a certain way for the rest of your life; I have yet to meet someone who did a diet for 6 months, lost the weight, went off the diet and kept the weight off. I reached a mental state where I had two choices: 1) continue living my life as I had been or 2) making a truly radical change, the change most likely to keep the weight off. I chose Option 2, because I owed it to myself, my wife and my kids to be the healthiest person I could be. I do not regret my choice. But while I do not regret my choice, I don't go around telling other people to do it. I don't think I would have succeeded in 2013 the way I have today with the surgery. In 2013, I would have seen it as "I do a surgery, I eat less, I lose weight, winner, winner, smaller chicken dinner." That is a set up for long-term failure. Now, I see it as "I have been given a great chance to live a healthy life and I need to take advantage of it." Until you reach that mental state, you are not ready to succeed with this surgery. -
Any UK surgeon or hospital suggestions or recommendations please?
summerseeker replied to bombshellocks's topic in Weight Loss Surgeons & Hospitals
Hello and welcome to the forum. I think most UK companies are reputable. They get their practices checked regularly. I chose Spire, They are offering Bariatric packages at a price I could afford. If you have complications and need more days in hospital or more x-rays or a CT scan, You are not going to get a bigger bill than you expected. I had to stay 6 days instead of 1. 5 days for nausea and vomiting and 1 day for the storm that outed the power in our county. The doc wouldn't let me go home to a cold house. If he or she has a Mr or Mrs instead of doctor in front of their name then they know their stuff, they are consultants. Good luck. P.s there is a Uk forum in the drop down boxes- 1 reply
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February 2022 Surgery Buddies
SoCalEm replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi! My program stresses lean proteins at the stage I'm in (pureed), so I'm eating canned chicken breast, tuna, and sometimes egg salad. They cautioned me on sodium, which is usually very high in canned and condensed soups. I think the concern is sodium can dehydrate you. Sounds funny, but I searched on Pinterest for simple recipes I could make at home and customize to my liking. Many of the pins link to bariatric patient geared sites with people years into their journey, so there's lots of insight and tips. -
Lunch idea after gastric bypass
SummerTimeGirl replied to Jennifer ortiz's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
A combo or anything below......... Tuna with some crackers and cheese, hard boiled eggs, rolled lunchmeat, chicken salad, egg salad, slices of spicy salami or pepperoni and some cheese slices/cubes, left overs, grape tomatoes, cucumber slices, cottage cheese, low fat yogurt tubes, nuts, sandwich roll ups on low carb tortillas, shrimp, etc. I also suggest visiting Bariatric Queen's website. https://bariatricqueen.com/tag/bariatric-meal-prep/ She lists her meal plans at all stages and has lots of great ideas for breakfasts, lunches, dinners, etc.
