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Unable to get enough fluids or protein 5 weeks post-op
Deep6 replied to Jlw1403's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hey, @Jlw1403. I had my bypass + hiatal hernia repair on June 6th of this year. The operation went fine, and being on liquid, then pureed, all the various stages, wasn't hard, I just wanted more. I took the supplements (multi + iron, and calcium) but as I progressed now more than 3 months out, I'm less hungry, find a lot of food or the thought of it, almost distasteful, and have to force myself to eat. Drinking liquids is not a problem simply b/c I get dehydrated, especially in the Texas heat. You should talk to your surgeon/dietician and see if there is any physical reason why you are having a problem. I would not do it in an accusatory fashion- more in the "I need help here " vein. I think, from what I've read here, that everyone's experience varies. It's like we all have different sensitivities to certain foods after the surgery, but-at least to me, you should be able to intake the basic minimum-- I was OK with the Max Protein drinks for about 2.5 months- then I found them gag worthy and couldn't digest them. I'm told it's about sips, not guzzling, but still. It is a pretty serious surgery- one that has a ton written about it in the med journals, and pretty safe in terms of outcomes. But tolerance for food and drink is probably very individualized. Get help. You don't have to suffer. -
August 2023 Surgery Buddies!
Angela Read replied to kayhay0714's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hello, I had GB on 8/16/23 I developed slight acne along my jaw line and chin around 2 weeks post op. I am now 5 weeks post op and my acne has subsided but left me with acne scars. I was just told it was my hormones fluctuating and to make sure to reach protein and water goals as well as take my bariatric vitamins. -
6 days post op and STARVING.
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SpacePossumSupreme's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I never lost my hunger when I had my sleeve. It really sucked. Ironically, when I had the revision to the bypass, I lost hunger. I'm now 1 week shy of being 3 months post op from the revision and I still don't have much in the way of hunger. Try having the unflavored protein shakes, since the flavored is too sweet. Have mostly broths and anything else you can that has protein in it. Right now, that's the most important thing. Definitely get your fluids and protein in. -
6 days post op and STARVING.
saramelie replied to SpacePossumSupreme's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Im 9 days post op and cannot stomach the flavored/sweet proteins. I bought whey proteins without any fillers or taste, just pure whey, and it mixes very well in water and does not have a taste!! Might be worth looking into it. I'm sorry you are struggling with hunger, this must be pretty hard -
Does anyone have any recommendations for someone who really can't stand artificial sweeteners and Stevia?
curlygirl74 replied to curlygirl74's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
Thank you all so much- you’ve given me hope that I have some options to try!! -
Does anyone have any recommendations for someone who really can't stand artificial sweeteners and Stevia?
NickelChip replied to curlygirl74's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
It's wicked expensive, but Ka'Chava protein shakes are sweetened with coconut flower nectar, which does add a bit of sugar but within the guidelines I was given (I was told no more than 10g sugar per serving, and calories no higher than 10x the grams of protein, so ). I haven't tried it yet but did order a bag. I've also ordered a sample pack of Truvani protein powder flavors to try. Those are sweetened with monk fruit, and also on the pricey side, but made without artificial ingredients which appeals to me. I've been trying so hard for the past several months to clean up my nutrition and get rid of artificial stuff, so it pains me to think I will be spending months drinking shakes filled with artificial junk. -
September 2023 Surgery buddies
ShooterInTheSix replied to Breaking notsobad's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Tired but feeling good. I do still feel a little achy in my abs but it continues to improve daily. I had a Zoom call with a nurse this morning and she was happy with my healing progress and with what I've been eating (averaging 80-85g of protein every day). My scale this morning said I'm down 11 lbs since surgery day last Thursday and now 31 lbs since the beginning of my two weeks of pro-op liquid diet at the end of last month. -
4 weeks post op! Eating less??
Melaniehealthymom replied to Melaniehealthymom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thank you for the response! I think you are right- the purees and soft foods are just sitting harder and taking longer to digest. And I am still trying to figure out how much is the right amount for me to feel satisfied! I worry about not getting in my protein but I am drinking protein water to help combat days where eating my protein is harder. Thank you for the encouragement and congratulations on how well this surgery has worked for you! Cheers! -
6 days post op and STARVING.
Arabesque replied to SpacePossumSupreme's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
While most of us lose our hunger & desire to eat after surgery, there are odd cases when people don’t. What you could be experiencing is head hunger especially if food was a comfort to you. You’ve had a pretty major surgery, are stressed, likely emotional, & your hormones may be a bit off so wanting to comfort yourself is a pretty common reaction. And because you can’t have food you want it more. In most cases a grumbling tummy does not mean you’re hungry unlike we were always told. The rumbles are usually just your digestive system working. Are you on a PPI to reduce your stomach acid? You’re still making what you used to need which is too much for your much smaller tummy & lower food intake. Excess tummy acid can make you think you’re hungry too. Oh, yes I found the shakes awful too. I diluted one in the morning, sipped it for hours & then relied on soups (bone broths are great but can be salty but cream soups & consommés are fine too) for other meals. You could make your own shake using a unflavoured protein powder & milk, blend a high protein up yoghurt with milk to make a yoghurt drink, etc. you don’t have to have just those pre made shakes. All the best. -
I got a little bag of samples when I saw the nutritionist last week. Turns out I much prefer the Celebrate 45 Tropical Twist vitamins to the Bariatric Fusion orange flavor, so I've placed an order for those and the sweet treat assortment of calcium soft chews, which were almost dangerously tasty. The Unjury chicken soup was better than the other brand I tried, but not enough to buy it. And their vanilla shake was vile. I just can't do artificial sweeteners, and probably not vanilla unless I add something to it to mask the flavor. The aftertaste was so strong and I had a vague impression of drinking baby formula. So far the only ones I've really liked have been the orange and peach flavored Syntrax Nectar Naturals, so I'm going to get two vegan fruit flavored options in case I have trouble with whey after.
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September 2023 Surgery buddies
waterchick replied to Breaking notsobad's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This weekend is stock up and get ready weekend. I'm so glad protein shakes have improved since 2012 when I had my band put in. Pre-Op diet is a challenge. I miss my coffee. -
QUICK OVERVIEW: 8 days post-op Gastric sleeve No problem drinking. Not really eating/no appetite. Ok for proteins shakes and electrolytes. Lost 10 pounds in a week Feeling permanently bloated/full despite not eating, and stomach is still swollen/distended. Gas pain went away on day 3. Pain came back in left shoulder, on&off since day 6 No pain whatsoever inside the belly (the actual stomach) since surgery, except today it started. Thought I was maybe hungry so I had a bit of liquid food (as per my plan). Did not help. It's not excrutiating but very uncomfortable pain right in the middle of stomach area. I did a lot more today (walking, errands, etc).... and i had sex yesterday No other symptoms. No fever, no nausea, etc. Could it be a leak?? (Also, I'm anxious naturally)
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Post surgery hair loss
Shanna NYC replied to TEXINFLA's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
As @Sleeve_Me_Alone has stated it's absolutely completely normal. There really isn't anything that can be done to stop it. At this point those are already dead hairs and are going to shed out. Trust and believe I'm living this now. I had surgery 4/11 and the shed started at month 3. I still have shedding in month 5, but it's a lot less than when it first started. The collagen, biotin and keeping up with protein will just help support healthy new hair growth, but won't do much to against it. -
Does anyone have any recommendations for someone who really can't stand artificial sweeteners and Stevia?
Shanna NYC replied to curlygirl74's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
Those are the ONLY shakes you can use??? I have tried to get down with them since they are popular and found all over the place including Costco, but I just can't get past the taste. Something about it makes me cringe even at it's coldest and even in coffee. I feel the same about the Ensure Max as well. I can somehow somewhat tolerate the Quest vanilla and just ordered some Pure Protein in chocolate to try it out. -
duodenal switch 6 days post op and STARVING.
SpacePossumSupreme posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Hello! I'm a 29 year old woman who just had surgery on the 14th of this month, and it went well. However, I'm absolutely starving, to the point where all I can think of is food! It's driving me crazy. No matter what I'm doing, no matter how I try to distract myself, I can't stop thinking about food, and my stomach is growling constantly. I've been having issues with protein, since I can't seem to stomach the sweet powders, but I did get some in today with some broth. I just don't know how I'm going to make it until next Wednesday, when I'll hopefully be approved for soft foods. Did anyone else experience this? How did you manage? -
Post surgery hair loss
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to TEXINFLA's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It is 1000000% normal and generally unavoidable. Your hair naturally goes through growth and shed cycles and any major trauma to your body (surgery, stress, pregnancy, etc.) can impact that cycle. You just had major surgery and now your body is losing a significant amount of weight in a very short period of time, which triggers that shed cycle to accelerate. For most folks it lasts a couple months, slows down, and then you start to see regrowth. Take your bariatric vitamins, hit your protein goals, and stay hydrated. Those are your best tools for helping minimize it and ensure regrowth comes in strong. Some people also supplement with collagen and biotin, which certanily can help, but they won't stop the shed. Hang in there, its totally normal and doesn't last forever! -
4 weeks post op! Eating less??
Melaniehealthymom posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi! I had VGS on 8/23/23. 4 weeks from surgery TODAY! I feel great. The past few days have been weird, though. I can't eat or drink as much as I have been able to the past 2 weeks. I used to be able to somewhat easily get down a protein shake in 30 minutes. Now it takes me a few hours. Does that sound right? I don't feel sick or anything. It just feels like I am going backwards. Should I be concerned about this? Anyone had similar experiences? Thanks for your help!! Melanie -
Not everyone experiences a bounce back regain. And not everyone experiences a larger regain. If it does happen there’s often a reason: complacency/&or bad habits returning, a too restrictive way of eating, lifestyle changes, medical/health issues, emotional issues, settling of your weight, … I had a regain of a good two kgs (about 5lbs) rather quickly a few months into my second year so earlier than the usual 3rd year. Didn’t gain any more. Wasn’t happy but was accepting it. Couldn’t really put my finger on why. No dietary changes, no activity changes during that time. But what I did have was a gall removal at 25 months which caused an protein absorption issue. Then almost at the three year mark we realised the gall removal also stopped me absorbing my HRT & caused other issues. Went from a tablet to a patch & slowly but surely I lost a good kilo of that regain over 6 months +/-. I’ve been sitting pretty stable again for about 6 months or so. I keep an eye on the scales, monitor my portions, watch my food choice & fingers crossed I continue to remain stable.
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My experience... TOTALLY WORTH IT! I think the rushed appointment may be contributing to your feelings of uneasiness. You also have the option of using a different surgeon if this one isn't the best fit.
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protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
ChunkCat replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
Though you may be an unhealthy weight, you still have to fuel your body with protein and vitamins for that size or you will lose muscle mass. Losing muscle mass is enough of an issue post surgery when you are super restricted so you don't want to induce it before the surgery does. Does that make sense? I have found some dieticians to be very erratic when t comes to what they advise you from meeting to meeting. I have no clue why. I'd ask her for a print out of what macros she advises you to be at and follow the percentages, aiming for over 100 grams of protein. This should keep you at a healthy balance give or take a few grams of protein. The sad truth is that many obese people are nutritionally deficient because we've restricted ourselves down to 1200 calories or lower which shuts down our metabolism. But we do it because we gain with anything more! Our bodies are rather broken metabolically. Don't stress yourself out. If you are losing at a steady rate and feel good with consistent energy and aren't starving between meals you have probably found a decent balance. As for the scale I have the same issue from place to place. It is so irritating. In the end go with the scale you will be weighed on for the insurance company (which is probably the surgeon's scale). Then weigh yourself in one consistent spot at home and calibrate your scale to match. This should get you in the right neighborhood... -
How to get all my protein in?
ChunkCat replied to wendywitch7's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
What is his reasoning for all these restrictions?? I'd consult a dietician trained in bariatrics, most doctors and surgeons have NO CLUE about nutrition and come up with these odd plans that have no medical basis because they don't think about the patients who will actually try implementing them. If the dietician there supports his weird restrictions, find another one. There is no medical data saying bariatric patients should avoid cheese and protein shakes post surgery. Are they checking your vitamin and mineral levels? You'd become deficient eventually without proper supplementation on a plan like that. Early post op recs are different than maintenance when you are over a year out and your restriction has eased up some. I know some docs favor a no snack plan because they think snacks will lead to mindless eating, but planned snacks can actually PREVENT mindless eating. Anyone can hold out for an hour or two when they know when they will eat next... Again, some people can survive on this sort of plan long term after the first year, but to try forcing it when you are still healing is cruel and misguided. You will end up with a lot of fatigue and weakness because you aren't getting enough nutrients. -
Does anyone have any recommendations for someone who really can't stand artificial sweeteners and Stevia?
ChunkCat replied to curlygirl74's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I would get the drinks with the sweetener of your choice and just add the unflavored protein to them, or brew tea and add the erythritol to it, then add the protein powder. I hate artificial sweeteners but I have decided part of my journey to surgery is learning to tolerate them as this is a lifelong change and I don't do well with sugar alcohols like erythritol. My surgeon requires the 2 week pre surgery liver reduction diet to be done with the Premier Protein premade shakes and those are sucralose based... I think I have like 10 flavors of them now. LOL I still cringe with the first few sips but having them ice cold helps. With fruit drinks I find a sour component helps cut the artificial taste and sometimes watering them down more than the package states. I like adding cold brew coffee concentrate to the shakes, the bitter component balances out the sweetness. I'll have to get decaf for after surgery! But really, the pumpkin spice flavored one with coffee concentrate makes a pretty decent pumpkin spice latte! -
November 2022 Surgery Buddies
gbrown replied to Crystal Leifheit's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I’m new here. I’m hoping to have my surgery this November 2023. I’m waiting for insurance approval. I’m trying to lose some weight before the pre op approval. Any suggestions on how to cut down on carbs? I’m doing good on upping my protein but my carbs are still higher than I like -
For those of you who have gotten the sleeve do you wish you had gotten the bypass?
ChunkCat replied to Tinkerbell1991's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Bypass is pretty amazing for GERD sufferers. There are a fair number of those that have had revisions from sleeve to bypass on this site. That said, my surgeon says there is a way to make a sleeve that is less likely to cause GERD if they already know you have issues with it. Something about the top being a bit wider? I'm most likely going with the DS which causes much more malabsorption than the bypass. The way I see it though, I'd rather trade my meds and chronic illnesses for daily vitamins and stable weight maintenance. It is important to remember that each person has a surgery that is right for them. I have gone over the medication malabsorption issue with my psych several times. But she says that in the end it comes down to the individual. Sometimes even sleevers need med adjustments after surgery. And sometimes bypass and DS people do fine with no adjustments. It all depends on the person and their individual system. Things can be adjusted, there are always options. I'm lucky that my ADHD meds are a disintegrating tablet because its most often given to children. And I have always chewed my benzos so they kick in faster (I only take them in emergencies). My biggest worry is my anti-depressant but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. DSers tend to absorb tablet vitamins well so I'm hoping the tablet anti-depressant will do equally well! -
Can I take liquid vitamins instead of meal replacement?
NCL04321 replied to BrookeyB's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Are you sure you are supposed to take vitamins right after surgery? i would ask your nutritionist. Mine held vitamins until about 1 month after surgery and at that time said i could take a regular capsule. You can take any form of protein either ready made shakes or use protein powder.