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But that's not really the situation with the OP. The situation was that it was sooooooo soon after surgery. Your surgeon (unless you're in the UK or Europe) probably said at week 2-4 that you're only on puree or soft foods at that point. He says no alcohol for 8weeks-1 year or more post surgery. It isn't a question of moral pulchritude. It's an issue of physical healing. Will you injure your surgery? Will you bleed out in under 4 minutes because you drank alcohol and ate a slice of pizza (or chocolates), or overate?
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August Sleevers-How are you doing??
FabBy55 replied to Ash_Bri85's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I hardly ever post but this thread is my favorite. I started at 247 and hit onederland (and then some) earlier in December. I actually screamed and my husband came running. Oh the elation! I then proceeded to fall into the crazy of the holidays - didn’t track and pretty much grazed, drank alcohol and ate sweets. But that’s okay. I didn’t gain (okay the scale went up one pound) and jumped back into tracking the day after New Years. It felt good to eat and drink like crazy (like a normal person would during the holidays) and be able to just jump back into healthy eating and eat within control. That is what I love so much about my sleeve - I feel in control. And yes, I am a bit of a slow loser at 55 pounds lost but I just try to focus on what I can control - tracking, water, vitamins, etc. Sometimes it gets me down but then I remind myself I have NEVER lost 55 pounds in four months. Heck, I don’t think I have ever lost 55 pounds period. And yeah, no one has noticed (no one knows but my husband and sons) but oh well, I didn’t do it for them. -
Any January 2018 Sleevers?
NewBeginnings2018 replied to VSGnewguy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Great advice on the hernia diet! That is what I've been telling people my procedure is on Monday but didn't realize they were on a special diet afterwards too! That will for sure be my story for the times when people are wondering why I am not eating. Perfect!! Regarding the drinking thing, being 10.5 years out from the lap band I know that I'll be able to drink at some point down the road. I didn't drink on new year's even and thought people would say something or notice and guess what, no one cared! I was prepare to say I was driving if anyone brought it up but no one noticed. Granted I'm sure there will be situations where it will come up but my plan is to say that I've been working really hard to lose weight and one of the things i have given up for now is alcohol. I think people will understand that and given the fact that I will have lost weight, it's going to make sense. Personally I am going to try really hard to not drink for the first year. I understand the value of the honeymoon period a lot more than when I got my band. I also know I need to work really hard to create new habits over the first year, and keep those habits moving forward if I want to have long term success. I figure if I could give it up for having my daughter, I can give it up for me. -
What Post-Sleeve Rules Do You Break?
LaLaDee replied to SassyScienceNerd's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I don't exercise enough (I think I might hit 3000 steps a day) and I eat dark chocolate every night before bed. My NUT said that the biggest sign that someone is going to succeed at WLS is that they start exercising. Sometimes I think about joining a gym. I don't have any injuries or health reasons why I can't exercise. I am pretty unfit though. Like, if I tried to run a mile I would probably puke and then pass out. I have also had alcohol about 3 or 4 times. The first time I had 2-3 glasses of champagne and got so drunk, it was frightening. More recently at Christmas, I had about 2 sips of wine (and with the meal too). My surgeon said that the gastric sleeve gives you 2 or 3 years to educate yourself and change your eating patterns. If not, you can expect regain and failure. I do hope to follow the rules. As someone here said, they are there for a reason. -
There are many reasons for the disparity in alcohol consumption. A surgeon may specialize in patients with exceedingly high BMI. Those patients with so much extra fat will have massive quantities of hormones stored. When the rapid weightloss starts, hormone levels can skyrocket. Add a barbiturate to the mix and you can have extreme mood swings and/or depression. We see it all the time on here with comments laden with attitude or excessive weepiness. Add to that the lay persons understanding of what is happening, it is just easier to say "Don't drink booze because it causes heartburn." or something else that is simple to understand. Better to just avoid alcohol until the major physiological changes are done and hormone levels return to normal.
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Hi Engelyn, I understand your fears. I have some of the same especially around alcohol restriction and people knowing. I'm taking this as an opportunity to stop alcohol consumption for good as I know it's one of the main things that gets me to put on weight and I'm better off without it. Once I start socializing again, I'll be drinking water with lemon and graduating to sparkling water with lemon. I've bought different types of citrus essential oils and 1 drop in 1 glass water makes it taste great. I've only told my very best friends that I'm getting a sleeve. Everyone else I've told I'm being operated for a hiatial hernia and that the doctor is putting me on a liquid only diet afterwards (true!) Graduating to smoothies and finally after 1 month, easy solids (true!). I say that I'll most likely lose some weight and that this is an added bonus! So, when people see me eating less and losing they won't be surprised. Then I'll just say that I'm taking the opportunity to continue eating well and losing (true!). As for social life afterwards, I'll still be going out but eating less and mainly proteins and drinking water. The main thing is being out with friends and socializing, enjoying their company. People don't really notice what you drink as long as you have a glass in front of you. I'll also be meeting people more for coffee and teas. I hope my thoughts help you in some way.
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I've been ghosting, this is my first post. I am scheduled for January 11, one week! I am very nervous, especially when I read stories of complications. Pre-op diet going good since the 26th, except for some champagne and bad snacks at a party on NYE... But still already down 11lbs during pre-op. My diet right now is protein shakes for breakfast and lunch and a small protein forward dinner w/ veggies. Been having Oikos triple zero and sugar free jello for snacks when I get home from work as well. I am a bundle of worries and fears, these being the biggest ones: - Complication from surgery - Alcohol and carbonation restriction (I am [hopefully "was"] a daily drinker, diet cokes during the day and wine and beer at night) - Regaining weight after losing a lot (I regained weight after being on Medi Weight Loss and losing 100 lbs 5 years ago) - Returning to work quickly (I run a business and cannot afford not to be back) - The diet ruining my active social life which revolves around friends and going out for drinks/food. - People finding out about my surgery and thinking that is was the "easy way out". I have only told my SO and my BFF. There are other smaller fears but it felt good to write those out!
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So funny how all doctors seem to be different in their protocol. Mine said just 6 weeks for carbonated alcohol and only 5 weeks for non-carbonated! Had no adverse effects.
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Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
Shell ???? replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I’m in the same boat I’m 2 years out in March and I’ve regained exactly how much I’m to scared to look lately but it was 5kgs a few months back drinking alcohol has been the biggest issue as I get drunk fast but I use to never drink prior to surgery now I do every night except the last week I’ve stopped I can also eat bread and chocolate and lollies I was sleeved and wish I had chosen RNY so I’d atleast get dumping and not continue to eat bad things I snack all the time and don’t exercise I’m miserable I Was self pay and cannot believe I’m having these issues now I was so good in the beginning so strict Please let me k ow how your going with your weight loss -
I 100% live by the anything in moderation idea at this point in my journey because I know my triggers, what to avoid personally and when I can allow myself a "treat". I didn't want to live on a "diet" for the rest of my life but instead wanted to learn to eat normally. I will be the first to admit that I allowed myself to indulge a little over the holidays and now I'm back on track with my normal diet. That being said, I'm a year post op and 12 pounds from my goal weight. When I was a month out from surgery, I was still on pureed and I followed my plan to a T. I was also not allowed alcohol before 6 months. It is absolutely dangerous to stray from the plan this early out for multiple reasons, most importantly your stomach is still healing, which I think is what many previous posters were concerned about. If you are allowed alcohol and sweets per your plan at this point, great! Indulge, enjoy and get back on track but if you are not, I would stick to the your doctors plan. Sweets, alcohol, carbs and all that will still be here in the future and you can indulge when you want then.
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I've been up and down with my weight over the years. I didn't realize how "up" I had gotten again until we took a family trip to Florida and went to Universal Studios. We went to get on a ride and I couldn't get the shoulder bars to lock into place. So I had to get off while the rest of the family went on the ride. I wanted to die right then and there. I feel your pain. My sciatica had gotten so bad about 2 years after that where I couldn't walk for more than 5 minutes without being in horrible pain. That finally drove me to get my sleeve done. You're taking the right approach. Too many overlook the mental aspect of having WLS. The surgery is a tool. If I really wanted to it would be easy to take up a diet that would lead me to gaining weight back. Food is just as addictive as any drug, alcohol, tobacco, etc. I equate it to overcoming being an alcoholic – you’re never really “over” it. Some days it will be a battle to stay strong. Over time it gets easier and easier and you don’t think about it as much, but there will be times when you have to fight those urges. Some days/weeks are really tough, but as time has gone by it gets a bit easier to fight those urges. I never thought I’d be able to give up smoking and I did. It’s a long journey but having the right mindset will give you all the more success on the other side, and you’re on the right path. Best of luck to you on your journey!
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Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
chrys129 replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Drinking for me was interesting. I didn't touch alcohol until over six months out. And all it takes is a single glass of wine or a shot or two and I feel it pretty fast. It also wears off very fast for me though (not a great combo btw). I think everyone is unique in how they handle alcohol post op. My advice, especially now that I went down that rabbit hole... Just don't go there at all. It's not worth it. Like some people can eat ice cream or milkshakes/Fraps. These are the rare items that I've had dumping with. I won't go near them now. Sent from my SM-G935V using BariatricPal mobile app -
Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
DLovelySleeve replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hey Dimples58, Soooooooo.....drinking after wls is truly different for every person. I was also advised by my medical crew that I would not be able to tolerate much alcohol, BUT this was not true for me. I can drink a sailor under the table. Lol! This is not good though because it's a lot of calories and causes weight gain. My first attempt was a shot of whiskey about 6 months post op and I felt nothing. The only time I feel it quickly is if I don't eat first. -
Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
Dimples58 replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Good morning, i was just curious, did drinking alcohol effect you any different than before the WLS? I was told that we wouldn't be able to tolerate drinking the least amount and that one small dip would put us over the edge quickly. What was your experience and do you drink? -
Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
chrys129 replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I've returned to BP due to regain as well. I need to get refocused. I'm a little over 2 years our and 2017 kicked my butt. It's entirely my own fault. I was heartbroken by a betrayal and also started a new job and went back to old bad habits of using food for comfort. Stopped running. Drank a lot of alcohol. Sigh I gained back 50 of the 115 that I lost. I'm starting new with protein goals and 64oz water daily. Getting my arse moving again. Etc. But it was a learning experience, a scary one, to see how easily I could screw up my own health even with the surgery. Over two years out and everything I eat still hurts: meat, cheese, veggies. Potatoes, pasta, and bread are the most painful for me. It's probably a blessing,even if it's a total bummer sometimes. My regain was a lot of liquid calories and learning to graze throughout the day. Lack of exercise. Bad food choices (when it ALL hurts, it isn't very motivating to avoid certain foods) A combination of a lot of things. But my restriction is still there. I eat like a toddler. Lol Sent from my SM-G935V using BariatricPal mobile app -
I'm not sure where to post this, so I hope this is OK. I had VSG in October of 2015 and lost 115 lbs by the following August (10 months out). I went from 254 to 139. My goal was 129, but I likely was in that ballpark because of loose skin weight, so I felt like I had hit my goal. I maintained that goal weight for six solid months. In December 2016 I had a betrayal by someone very close to me that I'm still not over. Somewhere in early 2017, I started eating more carbs. Grazing more often again. Drinking a lot calories, much of it alcohol. In the first year post op, I became a runner and was running up to five miles, 4-5 days a week. In 2017, it tapered off until I hadn't run in months and recently had to restart C25K completely, and couldn't even run 1/4 mile anymore without having to stop and walk again. I have regained almost fifty lbs and I am so pissed off and angry at myself. I cry daily over it. I have no clothes to wear. I was 188 last week. I saw a counselor at the end of 2016 and most of 2017 to try and deal with my "head stuff" and honestly feel like I did more damage than good. She was all about forgiving myself and it just ended up that I'd "binge" or not exercise and instead of trying to refocus, I'd just forgive it, make an excuse and do it again. I'm not sure of anyone here can even help me but I needed to post this and put it out there as a first step in being accountable for my actions again. I promised myself I wouldn't be a statistic with this surgery. I worked so hard and went through too much to end up here and I desperately need direction to get back on track. I have my 2 year check up with my surgeons office on Wednesday. I will tell them all of this, as well. Thank you for listening. Sent from my SM-G935V using BariatricPal mobile app
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HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE POST OP--in Pain and in tears!
FluffyChix replied to NatureLover888's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I do wonder if some patients get the "pain ball" at surgery and that's why they feel little pain after surgery? I know we each have different pain thresholds and prior use of alcohol or narcotics also jacks with the ability to manage pain after surgeries, but the way some sound in describing their pain after/versus how others describe no pain. The local anesthetic from a pain ball would certainly account for some of that difference! -
What told you it was time to lose?
Sonyawon replied to kakatlady612's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My alcoholic brother called me "a fat f#cking b#tch !!" ...story gets better though...... A year later and 5 mths after my surgery the alcoholic said "you f#ckin b#tch" I was ready and prepared. I said, "that's right you can call me a f#cking b#tch but you can't call me a fat f#cking b#th no more, can you?!?! His mouth just dropped and he walked away and now I weigh less than him ........ I may have been fat but I'm not an alcoholic hurting everyone in their path Sent from my LGL84VL using BariatricPal mobile app -
You're so right. I am not giving myself enough credit for all the good things i have done for my body. And ya it was just xmas and the end if the year that got me to sin a little. Overall, I haven't really been that bad, just the burrito and some alcohol was sending me on a guilt trip. But i'm back from my trip now and the new year is going to be awesome! 2016: worm [emoji218] 2017: cocoon [emoji946] 2018: butterfly 🦋 Thanks for your kind words and tips.
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So, we all wan to eat like that but if you are doing that so quickly after surgery, you are setting yourself up for failure. Talk to your NUT about the best options for you. And really think about your priorities!! This is the time when it is easier to eat right so you should take complete advantage of it. Do everything right at this time because later it will be even more difficult if you don't set your good habits now. Keep a food log and be honest with what you are eating. Show this to your NUT. And if that scares you to show them, then you know you aren't doing it right. No burritos right now!!!! And just a warning about the wine -- there is a really good reason why they tell us to not drink wine/beer/alcohol, especially early on -- it is very common for people who have had WLS to transfer food addiction to alcohol. It may start out as a small glass of wine but that becomes bigger until it is a problem. I don't remember the statistics but the % of WLS patients becoming alcoholics is really high so please put the wine down for now!! Later on when you are in maintenance phase you can slowly bring it back. Besides, it is full of calories and sugar that you don't want to have right now. Best of luck to you -- keep us posted on how you are doing. We are all pulling for you.
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Great progress!! You look amazing! Good thing you are traming your meals and cutting down your carbs/sugars/alcohol.. I hope you reach your weight goal soon. Happy holidays! 👌
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I've lost 72 lbs. since having gastric sleeve surgery in June of 2017. These are the changes I've made this year. I no longer drink carbonated beverages. I don't eat bread, pasta, rice, tortillas or chips. I rarely indulge on alcohol or sugar. I only eat from a very small bowl or small dessert plate, using a teaspoon. I drink two protein shakes a day. I track all my food intake and activity. I am finding new ways to be fit. I recently started training for a 5k, and added weights back into rotation. Surgery is only a tool. It takes constant effort to lose and maintain weight. While I'm far from the end of this journey, my overall health and well-being have improved dramatically and I am ever so greatful to have my life back again! Sent from my SM-N920T using BariatricPal mobile app
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WOW!!! You are Beautiful! Your skin just glows!! I don't know if anyone has said this or not but CROSS ADDICTION is REAL!! When we can't have food to help us deal, sometimes we move to other things: alcohol, sex addiction, exercise. We all need to be careful here because it is a slippery slope. I am not saying this in a bad way. I just want you to be aware. My hubby said that he hoped I was addicted to sex. LOL NOPE but I do love to shop online and clothes, boots, and purses are my things that I overdo for sure!! Just be aware,
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Aloha All, These are my before and after pics at 8 months post op. starting weight 312 two weeks on pre op diet/ surgery day 302 current weight at 8 months post op 240 which are the two bottom pics. I have been losing quite slowly but can only blame myself due to my weakness for wine. My surgeon did warn against alcohol as it will slow weightloss. I am doing much better at abstaining from drinking! Good luck to those who have not made the jump yet and for those struggling, get back on your plan, you can do this! Happy New Year everyone:) Sent from my SM-N920P using BariatricPal mobile app
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Maybe the regain has nothing to do with emotional eating or bad food choices?
Xerox replied to setoo's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yes, absolutely. There are many reasons you fall off the wagon, usually falling off the wagon isnt introducing a bit more lean meat, vegetables and legumes in to your diet to ward off hunger, its going off the rails and eating high calorie and nutritionally void foods too frequently. Nobody gets obese eating comforting portions of lean meats, vegetables and legumes most of the time and treating themselves occassionaly. If you dont feel good eating filling portions of nutritionally dense food then you have a phycological issue, you arent suffering physically from this. Its difficult to gain weight by over indulging in lean protein and vegetables, but you can by over indulging in potatoes or high calorie processed foods. So I dismiss the idea that people stop eating nutritionally dense low calorie foods because? What? they're starving? What is the pressure that makes them not able to do it anymore? How is it not sustainable? Are they low on energy? If you are saying they dont feel good because they crave high calorie foods too often and want to give in to temptations often enough that it causes weight gain then that is phycological and can be changed with persistance its like an addiction. You wouldnt be saying this to an alcoholic. I felt like I wasnt getting anywhere on wholefoods after a while, but in hindsight if I kept going I would have broke the plateu eventually, even if I didnt it would be a better place than I am at now. I take full responsibility for mucking things up for me.
