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What is eating like 6 months or more after gastric sleeve?
PasadenaMom replied to missmaryc's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I’m almost 9 months post-op, down 85 lbs. I eat what I want, but still eat my protein first and I fill up quickly. I have treats when I want but in very small quantities. Deeply grateful for the surgery and the freedom it’s given me, and feel like a million bucks. Now I don’t focus on food much and still drink almost no alcohol, which is a big change from pre-op. I don’t miss these things at all — feels freeing. -
I would love to see some peer reviewed scientific studies that show Splenda is dangerous. I haven’t found any, but there could certainly be ones I’ve missed. Definitely check with your surgeon for their recommendation, but mine allows Splenda. I try to avoid all sweeteners when I can, but I definitely use protein shakes that are sweetened with Splenda. I also use products sweetened with sugar alcohols, stevia and monk fruit.
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ESG surgery Looking for answers.
Tex Slim 66 replied to shelia_stanford's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Sheila, hi I had the ESG procedure November of last year, just before Thanksgiving. I'm early 50's and yo-yo dieted for the last 15 years, gradually gaining 10-20 pounds per year since my mid 40's. I chose ESG because I wanted a permanent change (not the balloons) and felt more comfortable with the endoscope procedure (no incisions) than a vertical gastric sleeve. ESG procedure went very smoothly, I was not in pain, did not get nausea and was up and about within a day or two following procedure. After the long weekend I went back to work on Monday and there were no complications. I'm looking to lose about 80 pounds. As of late January I'm down 34 pounds and since the ESG it has totally changed my appetite and desire for food. I eat much less, don't have cravings and have eliminated most sugar from my diet (no processed foods, sweets, alcohol, etc.). Check some of my earlier posts for more details on diet, etc. Let me know if you have more questions, on this forum we're always glad to help and share our experiences! Tex -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
LittleLizzieLilliput replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
My doc was fine with me reintroducing alcohol after my 12 month follow-up. No binge drinking mind you, but with-in reason is absolutely fine he said. I follow all my guidelines and am doing well so far. I don't really break the "rules" on this stuff cause I get sick if I don't follow the protocol. -
Married people....8 out of ten of us will get divorced within 2 years
blizair09 replied to Creekimp13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Statistics are just statistics. (And I say that as a person who does math for a living...) My ex and I broke up in July after 8.5 years together. (And that is like 50 years in the gay world.) We both lost a tremendous amount of weight, and while that had some to do with it, it wasn't all of it. The last 2-3 years had been rough, and the last year had bordered on unbearable. When we broke up, I told myself I didn't want to be stereotypical, but it had to happen. If you have a super strong relationship before you start your weight loss journey, you'll probably be just fine as long as you support one another and keep your communication strong. We didn't, and that's why our relationship had to end. Like choice of surgery, or alcohol consumption, this just depends on the particular life situation of the individual/couple. My parents both had WLS in the past 13 years, and they are still together and have been married for 43 years. I know many others in the same boat. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
blizair09 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'll chime in... First, I abstained from alcohol for the entirety of my six month pre-op diet program and the first 3 months post-op. I just wasn't willing to derail the progress I wanted to make on the front end of the surgery (where I lost 100 pounds by surgery day) or the first few months post-op. I took my ex on a monthlong tour of SE Asia at the 3 months post-op point. I spoke with my surgeon about alcohol on the trip, and he told me that I would be fine. His only recommendation was to take it easy and test things out at home before I went out in public with it. I am now 16 months post-op, and it has been 22 months since I started this journey. I follow a keto way of eating and am really particular about what I put in my body. I have lost 225 pounds, am below goal, and have maintained beautifully for several months now. Do I have alcohol? Yes, I do. I mostly have red wine and I mostly only have it when I am traveling for work or on the weekends. Drinking has always been a very social thing for me. Yes, there are statistics about WLS and alcoholism just there are statistics about losing more weight with a bypass than a sleeve. But, I'll same the same thing about the alcohol as I did about the bypass vs sleeve weight loss issue in a thread the other day. It depends on the person. If you were inclined toward alcoholism before, you will be now. If you are eating and exercising like you should, a few drinks (especially with low- or no-carb mixers) probably won't cause you a problem. I had a sleeve and have been more successful than many bypass patients. It just depends on each person's story. But if your alcohol calories outnumber your food calories, that is an issue. Something to think about. To each his own. I have no issue with it, and never have gained one once from it, but I am also crazy obsessed about what I eat and how often I imbibe. It's all about balance, in my opinion. Good luck! -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Engelyn replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
You're welcome. My answers to those questions are thus: 1. How long did you go before having your first drink? 8 days. 2. Have you had any MEDICAL complications with your surgery that were attributed to drinking alcohol? None so far, but it hasn't been long for me. 3. Have you gained back significant weight from drinking alcohol? Not applicable to me because I am still in the losing phase. I do feel that I would lose faster if I went absolutely dry but I will not be doing that. 4. Have you developed an alcohol addiction post VSG after having been able to control your drinking before? I am drinking less than I was before surgery. I do not think this will be a problem for me, but again I am not that far out yet. Furthermore regarding food, I am having a similar experience, I am able to eat only about 1-2 oz (by weight) of food at meal times. So, that is hardly anything (like 3-4 bites). So intake for me is typically 2 protein shakes, yogurt and for dinner 1-2 oz of food, and water of course. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Creekimp13 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The US divorce rate is 50%. The divorce rate for people who have had bariatric surgery is 75-85% Read that again. If you have had bariatric surgery, your chance of getting divorced within two years is 75-85%. Split the difference....and 8 out of 10 of us....will get divorced in the next two years. There is no way in hell I would add alcohol to that equation and those odds. it is really important to pay attention to your relationships and do the work required to keep them healthy. I don't see alcohol as a beneficial part of that. My marriage is incredibly important to me. 25 years this year. I have seen way too many marriages go down the crapper...over something as utterly unnecessary as alcohol. Given the physical changes in digesting and tolerating it....and the fact that we're already losing a big coping crutch (food) and that alcohol abuse and dependency are documented to increase post surgery.......it just seems like the perfect storm for a really bad outcome. To me. Others will have different views and keep rolling the dice. To each their own. Free will, and all that:) -
Can we have Splenda?
JohnnyCakes replied to babu1995's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
sucralose is not a sugar alcohol. sugar alcohols include xylitol, erythritol, etc. and they are, in my opinion, a much better choice than Splenda. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Creekimp13 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Risk for Alcohol Abuse Intensifies after Bariatric Surgery: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/887243 Food for thought. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Creekimp13 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Q: Can I drink alcohol after surgery? A: Alcohol is not recommended after bariatric surgery. Alcohol contains calories but minimal nutrition and will work against your weight loss goal. For example, wine contains twice the calories per ounce that regular soda does. The absorption of alcohol changes with gastric bypass and gastric sleeve because an enzyme in the stomach which usually begins to digest alcohol is absent or greatly reduced. Alcohol may also be absorbed more quickly into the body after gastric bypass or gastric sleeve. The absorbed alcohol will be more potent, and studies have demonstrated that obesity surgery patients reach a higher alcohol level and maintain the higher levels for a longer period than others. In some patients, alcohol use can increase and lead to alcohol dependence. For all of these reasons, it is recommended to avoid alcohol after bariatric surgery. (American College of Surgeons, 2011) -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Creekimp13 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I drink so seldom I forgot about the alcohol rule. My kiddo made some homemade cherry mead and wanted me to taste it last week .... it had completely slipped my mind. I took a tiny sip...and that one little sip of mead burned like rubbing alcohol on a paper cut going down. It really hurt...and I remembered immediately that it was too soon. I took a big drink of water (which helped a lot) and looked up the alcohol rule. (and went...ah, crap!) I might repeat the experiment...next Christmas. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
JavaKnut replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Myself and others that I know in the area have all been told no alcohol for a year. The reason not being completely on the intolerance, but more on the higher likelihood of alcoholism and addiction since it takes so little to get the buzz. Take a look at how and when you are eating. If you are grazing on stuff throughout the day, then that could be why you are only tolerating small amounts of non 'real-food.' I was told to eat at least 2-3 hours apart. No liquids 30 mins before or 30 mins after. To each their own. I hope you don't get any major complications from your current path. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
RussT replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Feel free to do what you want to do with your own body, and you are perfectly within your rights to do so, but I think you set a bad example. Even if only one person decides to disregard their doctor's orders (like your example with alcohol) and they hurt themselves or complicate their health, then you have contributed to it. -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Raffi posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Real food sucks...I have it on occasion and 1-2 oz's max. Protein shake in the morning, then munch on nuts, cheese, beef jerky and protein bars throughout the day, then have a few bites of whatever the fam's having for dinner. Doc said no alcohol for 6 months post op. Yeah, right. I've been drinking as regularly as I did before (sans beer ) since the full liquid stage. Tolerance was low for about a day or two, then back to normal. Exercising as per the nutritionist's guidelines, though, so not doing everything wrong. 75 pounds in a little over 2 months. Extreme hypertension down to near-normal. No regrets. Am I alone in just doing it my way? -
Can we have Splenda?
kakatlady612 replied to babu1995's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Splenda is sucralose, a sugar alcohol, I would make sure my doctor is okay with it, but I usually err on the side of safety. Sent from my VS880PP using BariatricPal mobile app -
Kaiser options orientation So-Cal
echu replied to morenita2013's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was denied due to recreational drinking and mmj being on my medical record. Has anyone had any success with appealing the process? I was never given an opportunity to appeal officially, either, so if anyone knows who I can call that’d be great. I’ve gained an additional 15 pounds since I was denied. My body is in an awful state. My mental health isn’t much better (the news was pretty devastating). I’ve got another appointment with my doctor in hopes that I can try to talk to her. All I received was a call from her nurse telling me I was denied entry to Options. They told me I have to wait a year for sobriety despite the fact that I am not a heavy drinker nor a heavy pot smoker. I would quit both alcohol and pot cold turkey if I had to - they have no real significance for me. At this rate I am considering paying entirely out of pocket. I’ve never been so disappointed with my insurance before. I am so miserable. Only 25 pounds off 300 lbs which is the heaviest I’ve ever been. I am so afraid. -
Six months is the recommendation at my group, but the overwhelming advice it to avoid it permanently. I know some people do continue to drink after six months, but alcohol will feel different...both in absorption rate and the way it's digested. It might cause you problems, so approach reintroduction very cautiously.
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When did everyone start to drink alcohol?
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Wow! I know this has nothing to do with your thread. But I saw you speak at the Hillary Clinton Nomination! Thank You for all that you have done!!!!!!! Now onto your post. No a doctor never should have called you a name. Yes, we are all addicts. Addictions will never go away. I will always be a food addict. The day I forget that I am an addict is the day I break what I am supposed to do. We are all food addicts. That is the reason why we are in the positions we are in. Why do some people cheat on their liquid diets? It is because we are addicts. It doesn't mean we aren't ready for surgery. Heck. Very few people can stick 100 percent to the liquid diet. Just look at this forum. Does that mean those people aren't ready for surgery? No. Should they be insulted the way PeachesCat was? No. We are here for reinforcement. Positive reinforcement. If an alcoholic fell off the wagon they don't need to be attacked. They need to be supported and to tell them start again immediately. You can do it PeachesCat. I am sorry if you are still as sick as you are in that picture. Do not let anybody on a forum get you down. You are going to do great and remember. Nobody needs to insult you. Not a doctor or a unnamed person on a message board. Thank you for your service and your speech with Hillary was AMAZING.
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Post Sleeve 30 pound regain in 1 year
travelergirl replied to Ash104's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
With any procedure over time it is more about food decisions than the actual procedure. You can gain weight back after any of them. For me logging my food always helps me when I feel off track. As pointed out by others the alcohol can add a lot of extra calories. It sounds like you are pushing yourself to eat more...if you are eating as much as your friends and cramping then you aren't listening to your body signals. If it were me, I would go back to the beginning. Do a couple of days of liquids. Then go back to the fundamentals of 60g of protein and 60 oz of water. Protein first. No liquids 30 min. before, during, or after meal. No alcohol. Reaquaint yourself with the fundamentals and then see where you are. Sent from my SM-G920V using BariatricPal mobile app -
Post Sleeve 30 pound regain in 1 year
Ash104 replied to Ash104's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi Shedo / others, I think alcohol for sure has played a part for me however im just curious if any of you after a certain period of time had a moment where the sleeve almost turned off? If I can use that phrase, and felt you had to revert back to full manual control so to speak? -
I've worked in drug and alcohol treatment for the past 30 years, currently running a long term residential program for men returning to the community from the county jail. What has been amazing to me since I had my sleeve done 1/22/18 are the similarities between my emotions and thinking and those that client have expressed they struggled with early in their recovery. Acceptance is a b***h, whether it's acceptance of my addiction, acceptance of a medical condition or acceptance that my days of eating a 16 oz steak are over. There is a very old reference in AA's Big Book that goes once a pickle, never a cucumber again. I have told this to clients for 20 years but it didn't settle in for personally until yesterday when I was feeling resentful after seeing a burger king ad and realizing that I could never sit and eat the hamburger. I got angry and resentful and even told myself that it was ok to have piece of ham because I deserved it. Yeah, that entitlement lasted about 1 minute which is how long it took for me to throw up from the cramps I was having. I'm working on embracing/accepting my "pickleness" today. What I has seen over the years is that acceptance brings serenity.
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Post Sleeve 30 pound regain in 1 year
BGrundee replied to Ash104's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi, My guy friend had weight loss surgery in Germany. He lost alot of weight and he gained all of it back 2 years later. He's not as big as he was but he's pretty fluffy and admits he kept drinking beer and alchohol. The beer and alcohol did it to him...On your profile picture it shows you enjoying or holding a mixed drink...I would highly keep beer and alcohol to a minimum. -
Blood thinner shot to prevent clots
mamamc32 replied to Krista27's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I take blood thinner normally for an artificial heart valve, so I had to do Lovenox shots for two weeks before surgery and a week or two afterwards. They are no big deal. You pinch the fatty part of your stomach, clean it with alcohol wipes, and do the shot. It doesn't hurt too bad unless you don't grab a fatty part . . . then it hurts like a #$%^&! You might bruise a bit, but even that's not a big deal.
