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I'm underweight but can't eat much
Darktowerdream replied to Bastian's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
@Bastian I hope that things get better for you. That they figure out what is wrong. my life has been endless battles. But we do what we can to get by and sometimes it’s still worth the price we paid. I paid hefty price physically to battle with my weight but I wouldn’t change it. I hope this leaves you no regrets where the path takes you. I find it hard when answers aren’t clear or even there. I didn’t get them myself. I wanted to answer though I’m a tad exhausted. I will say, Not all whey protein is the same, you can have allergic reaction to some not others. Depending how pure they are. The quality I’d say. I had the best results with PEScience select protein powder, although they do make a vegan select. Have you tried mixing protein powder in yogurt, like Ripple brand yogurt that’s non dairy. I don’t do well with dairy but have a little Greek yogurt since it’s protein rich. To get dense protein BariatricPal has excellent protein shots. It very well could be vitamin deficiency and more an overall ill feeling you need higher absorption nutrition until they figure out if it’s mechanical. I highly recommend taking Whole Foods based multivitamin in gummy or liquid form. Because your body utilizes it better than traditional vitamins. most vitamins shoot right through your system especially after bypass. And you went through a lot with yours. I kind of wish they had taken my remnant stomach. I wonder if I feel pain from it but they didn’t see ulcers there. sorry I go off on tangents. I had my gallbladder removed also. I take chewable digestive enzymes that helps. I also read bike salts are beneficial. all the best to you in getting the care you need -
Starting pureed food for two weeks
over65 replied to over65's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
FOODS ALLOWED ALL FOODS pureed TO BABY CONSISTENCY MUST STRAIN EVERYTHING No Peanut Butter or nuts No real butter No raw fruits or veggies (so no bananas) No bread or crackers No hard cheeses (low fat soft cheeses ok) No dairy listed except skim milk (yogurt not mentioned) No carbonated or soft drinks No alcohol No Kool-aid or sweet tea Nothing sweetened with sugar No fruit or veggie juices with pulp or added sugar 3 meals per day with supplemental Protein Shake between to get Protein Tonight I opened can of Progresso Clam Chowder. Thinned with skim milk and pureed with blender stick and strained it. All the clam bits down the drain. -
I had surgery on 12/31/19 and have done very well. I was very lucky to have an easy recovery, including no physical hunger. Well, I'm 5 1/2 months out now and my hunger has returned - a lot! I'm trying to be sure to eat dense protein at all my meals. My program doesn't like snacking so I'm trying to avoid that but if I am really hungry I'll have some greek yogurt. Does anyone have any advice on good, high protein, dense meals you like? I'm not much of a cook so simple items would be best. Thanks in advance, Lori
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Nervous about post-op energy levels...
California Guy replied to vgal's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I did liquids only for two weeks post OP with the same 2 week pre-OP diet. This included Shakes, Sugar Free or fat free versions of pudding, jello, popsicles, soup broth, gatorade, yogurt, milk. I was never hungry. Now I'm on puree foods including liquid diet items plus eggs, melted cheese or string cheese, mashed potatoes, yogurt, bananas, peanut butter, applesauce, lean ground meats like turkey, and cooked carrots. I'm reluctant to eat because I'm just not hungry, I keep to a schedule and make sure to get all the required protein and fluids. Regarding your question about energy levels, I found only consuming 700 to 1000 calories per day is great for weight loss but tough on keeping up my energy. I am recovering so I rest a lot and deal with feeling a bit weak. I'll change my diet to soft foods this Monday and increase my calorie intake. My most recent surgery was a revision to DS. Keep in mind, the goal is to progress in stages to a reasonable, healthy, and sustainable diet. The liquid or puree diet should be discontinued on schedule as they will not meet your long term nutrition goals. By the soft food stage you should have a plan to get all your protein from real food. Avoid high sugar, fried, processed or refined foods. Avoid caffeinated, carbonated, or high sugar drinks. Consume only limited amounts of bread. Bread should be toasted. Select whole wheat. Protein bars and protein shakes are not real food. -
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ssjiminez@yahoo.com replied to MaybeMeow's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi everyone! My nickname is Gata. Im 62 years old and weigh 314 lbs. I’m scheduled for Dswitch on the 16th. All the information I’ve been reading from such sincere hearts is helping me tremendously. To hear some say they’re nervous and excited. Others saying that while waiting nervously they’ve gained weight helps me feel better. I can relate to so many of your comments. My Dr. snapped at me today for gaining 5 lbs (made me feel really bad). I’ve been waiting since January, but what little I lost , came back in no time from the nerves! Anyway, I’m still super excited, I started my liquids today (so far so good). I purchased a variety of fat free cream soups which I added protein powder to. Also purchased jellos and nonfat yogurt and low fat cottage cheese. All recommended by my dietician. I feel a little lost, but I will continue reading. I wasn’t sure wether to let my family know, but your texts have helped me make up my mind not to. Thank you all again for sharing your experiences! Note to self:walk, walk, walk🙂 -
Starting pureed food for two weeks
California Guy replied to over65's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You can verify if these are on your approved food list: Mashed potatoes Creamy Peanut Butter String cheese Mashed banana Non-Fat yogurt Mashed (soft scrambled) eggs I'm getting protein from these sources and reducing shakes to 0 or 1 per day. I like the shakes, but I feel I'll do better getting protein from natural sources instead of processed foods. -
Anyone? Supervised Medical Weight loss Requirement
NovaLuna replied to Lilfootie's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My nutritionist was different because after surgery you have to have 3 meals and 3 snacks if you want to reach your protein goals because your stomach doesn't hold as much so my nutritionist had me get into the habit of 3 meals, 3 snacks. I'll usually have a cheese stick or two as a snack or a fruit cup (in water) or 1/4 cup of nuts or indulge in my chocolate craving and have sugar free pudding, sometimes I'll have a yogurt, or a slice of deli meat, etc. After my surgery I have to get a minimum of 80g of protein a day so I work to get at least 50 on my own and then have 1 30g protein shake to make up the difference. -
I like making greek yogurt mousse. One 650 or 750g container (whatever you've got, I know they come in different sizes) mixed with one package of jello sugar free pudding. Makes for a lovely texture and a bit of a decadent treat! :-) Sent from my SM-G950W using BariatricPal mobile app
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The stomach upset, gas, and bloating are definitely the distinguishing symptoms of a food intolerance! A stall and a few lb gain one week happens to most people around 2-4 months - happened to me. Not very fun, but normal. I would really hate to cut out yogurt and cottage cheese.
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Lactose can be your Enemy!
amboyle728 replied to amboyle728's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was in a stall for about 3 weeks, then gained about 2 lbs in a week and I called my bari team in near hysterics! Very discouraged. I was feeling awful, with stomach upset, gas, bloating, lethargy. All that has gone away since I cut out dairy--which admittedly has been hard, b/c cheese (esp. cottage cheese) and yogurt had been a big part of my eating plan. -
I came out of surgery able to take in an ounce of protein drink and an ounce of water (at the same time) every 15 minutes. I did need to mix up my protein intake from room temp clear protein, to cold shakes, to warmed tomato soup with added protein powder per my nausea tolerance the first 5 days due to nausea with the pain meds but once off those I'm good with any. I drink 50-70 ounces of water a day, (preop I was 80 to 120 minimum) with electrolyte drop ins. That puts me at 80 to 90 ounces "intake" a day. I meet and exceed the fluid and protein goals. My 2nd week post-surgery I began to get a painful empty feeling several times a day. Its pissing me off. Its not acid, I'm on omeprazole and do 2 antacid meltaway chewable a day. I can eat an entire Greek yogurt serving tub in 30 minutes, with small bites and putting down my appetizer spoon between them. I don't like it, though, lactose pisses off my digestive system, but I was desperate for a "solid" and popsicles don't cut it either. I can easily get in 500-600 calories with the meal protein drinks and 2 snacks to stop my stomach hurting because of its "empty" feeling. I'm 12 days out. This is ridiculous! Anyone else come out of surgery this way and struggle with liquids? Please tell me moving to food is going to curb this, lower my overall calories when I can focus on solid proteins, and let me feel full.
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Groovymommy replied to MaybeMeow's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
That sounds good but I believe that's post-op...wasn't OP asking about pre-op? Here's a summary of what I was told for pre-op: DO's: Non-starchy vegetables, lean meat, clear and full liquids. At least 90 grams of protein per day, less, than 50 grams of carbs, and less than 1000 calories. 64 oz of fluid minimum. DON'T's: No added sugar, no high-carb foods (pasta, rice, bread, cereal, potatoes, corn), no sweets of any kind, avoid fruit, and NO caffeine. I'm honestly not having a hard time with it now, I'll be at 1 week tomorrow. I do miss bread sometimes and wish I could eat fruit (I do add frozen berries to my protein shakes as flavoring, and throw a few into my Greek yogurt, but that's it). They told me the whole goal was to shrink the liver (it sits right above the stomach) by using a low-carb diet. Plus side, I've already lost more than 5 pounds. I also think this is shrinking my stomach and getting my body accustomed to eating less. I still think that my first two weeks post-op are going to be a challenge. I'm supposed to have only liquids, starting with clear but adding in full as soon as I tolerate them. I hope that what I've heard about not feeling very hungry at all after surgery is true, else I'll really be miserable! -
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MaybeMeow replied to MaybeMeow's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Edited to say... OOPS! I thought you said post-op! Well... enjoy POST Op below. My pre op was 3 protein shakes a day plus clear liquids. My friend's was two protein shakes and a meat and veggie only dinner. I admit I followed hers instead of mine. Day 1 and 2: Focus on fluids, water, broth, jello, SF Gatoraid, popsicles. At least 30oz fluids Day 3-7: Add one protein shake. At least 40oz fluid, yogurt, watered down cream of wheat, strained, low fat cream of soup Day 7-13: Start Multi Vitamin. 50 oz clear liquid. Add A few soft foods: Scrambled egg, hummus, cottage cheese, refried beans Day 14-7 weeks at least 64 oz fluids. Add soft wet meats (tuna, canned chicken ground turkey, fish, melted cheese, mayo, other beans deli meat. Aim for 3 ox per meal. 3-5 meals per day. (week 3 add Calcium Citrate) DO NOT eat these until 2 months post op: Carbs, Steak, raw fruits or veggies, grains, caffeinated coffee and avoid carbs as much as possible. 3oz protein first. then veggies, then fruit to fill any stomach space. Hope this is helpful! -
For slider calories you can try adding a teaspoon of olive oil to a scrambled egg. To get more calories and protein you can try Premier protein water. It is gross to me cold but over ice so it's really cold is much better. When I was losing too quick I would have a tablespoon of peanut butter and lick the spoon so it would take 10-15 minutes. Slider foods will not make you feel as full so you can consume more calories. I changed from eating low calorie yogurt to high calorie/high fat yogurt with some nuts or granola mixed in. I was able to eat a graham cracker square with peanut butter and half hour later eat another. I would dip carrots in high calorie/high fat ranch dressing. Just go slow and try a little at a time to make sure you feel ok before eating a lot of something. If eating something dense like refried beans try and mix in some water so it slides down easier. I had to consciously eat every 30-60 minutes to try and up my calories from 500-1000 over 2 months. Others will warn it is a slippery slope and it's against everything you learn and it will make you feel like you are creating bad habits. All of that is true. However, if you are determined and set a goal that once you gain "x" pounds I will stop eating after 8pm or not snack between lunch and dinner then you can later reduce calories and go back to good habits to stay at a maintenance level.
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At A Loss (Not Weight Loss)
Darktowerdream replied to MrsSpooky's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I understand the situation very well, lifelong chronic illness and disability along with metabolic disorders and inability to exercise at all I fought for gastric bypass surgery I desperately needed the tool because my own efforts were not sustainable. To be honest I had to drastically cut carbs/sugar and calories. Prioritize protein first, find the calories that you start losing weigh at. I only started to increase my calories once I hit goal. Make sure to get minimum of 0.36 grams protein per 1lb body weight. And honestly exercise isn’t really for weight loss, building muscle is. The more muscle you have the more calories you burn. If you can do some resistance exercise some strength training maybe through physical therapy. That might help. For me my medical condition, exertion causes muscle weakness and damage and for me to feel ill. I can understand not being able to rely on exercise. But if you are able to do limited exercise look to building muscle. And that’s also why you need to prioritize protein over calories. Getting maximum protein for minimum calories. Also be mindful of sticking to three meals and how much snacking and start tracking your daily calories and protein along with tracking foods you eat each day to see what helps or hurts. just one example: I like mixing yogurt like Fage plain, TwoGood, or oikos triple zero with 1/2 scoop of PEScience protein powder. recipe example: oikos triple zero peanut butter banana, with 1/2 scoop PEScience peanut butter cookie protein powder = 160 calories, 27 grams protein. I mix it I a bowl with a bit of pink salt and stick it under the freezer 30 minutes and mix it again. A little low sugar jam and it tastes like pb&j polaner sugar free with fiber I think ... these days I add a little low carb granola for crunch. (Sola granola 15 gram portion is 70 calories and 4 grams protein 2 net carbs) And some sugar free land o lakes whipped cream. Overall very low carbs. PEScience http://rwrd.io/c6uus2e -
Yogurt only has CFU in millions. Need CFU in trillions to do any good. Sent from my SM-G950U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Only if it has active cultures - it should say somewhere on the container if it does. I grow my own kefir from scratch - it's really easy, and pretty cheap (mostly just the cost of the milk because the grains cost only $15 and have kept going for 5 years so far). Kefir also has more bacteria than yogurt, and contains many more strains of healthy bacteria than yogurt or most supplements do.
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Should have waited for Fecal Transplant
rjan replied to over65's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I grow my own - that way I know they're fresh! I make kefir, which is much easier than yogurt - just pour milk in, wait a day, drain the kefir off - done. No heating or other nonsense required. I ordered the grains that hold the probiotic colony and make the kefir from Amazon - just search "kefir grains." Only costs 10-20 dollars. I've had mine for 5 years, and have given them away to several people since then (they multiply over time). -
How can I slow myself down from eating too fast?
NovaLuna replied to ChattyKathie's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Probably the only reason I don't have that issue is because I have EOS (it's an autoimmune disorder that causes narrowing in the throat and can cause choking) and because of that for the past few years I've eaten really, really, really slowly because choking freaks me out and after wayyyy too many ER visits with food stuck in my throat I finally got a clue. 😓 My advice, take smaller bites and chew your food to MUSH before swallowing. If you are eating foods that you don't need to chew (yogurt, cottage cheese, etc.) then just take a small bite and then set the food aside for 30 seconds to a minute before taking another bite. Still keep with the small bites. -
Moving to Norway right after surgery, scared of doing post-op diet in a foreign country
California Guy replied to MoominMan's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I'm a picky eater too. I got through the pre/post op diet just fine, twice. Once for the Sleeve and once for the bypass. My first two weeks post op included 3 protein shakes a day, water, chicken or beef broth, non-fat yogurt, sugar free popsicles, sugar free pudding prepared from a powder mix, and sugar free sports drinks like gatorade. Since you only follow this diet for two weeks, you could pack a box of supplies and bring them with you. My second two weeks include eggs, string cheese, applesauce, bananas, mashed potatoes, yogurt, creamy peanut butter. I also make home made turkey chili and puree it. During this phase you can have everything from the Liquids only phase, but I was ready for new food. I was told if you can get protein from natural sources, it is better than getting it from protein shakes. The last phase will be soft foods which allow more meats, cereals, toast, pasta, vegetables, and cheeses. You should get a list from your nutritionist, but there are several informative lists online. Search for a Post Op bariatric surgery diet. You'll want to purchase a large supply of bariatric vitamins online as those are usually difficult to fine in stores. My Doctor asked me to wait two weeks post OP to start vitamins to avoid nausea. I wish you good luck with your surgery, travels and studies. Sounds like you are really getting a new start this year. -
Pre-Op Diet, Are you hanging in there?
It's time. replied to futurefinemama's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It seems everyone has a different pre-op diet. I started mine 6 days ago. I'm fine most of the day but I'm starving when I wake up so I might add a yogurt in the evening, but I've lost 4 lbs. -
Things that Taste Like Peanut Butter
ChubRub replied to JessLess's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I find that if PB is warm and gooey, it spreads really good and I don't need as much. I like it on a toasted chaffle! It's also good swirled into some greek yogurt! -
Things that Taste Like Peanut Butter
catwoman7 replied to JessLess's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I echo the PB2 (or PBFit - or any of those powdered peanut butters). It isn't quite the same when you reconstitute it with water to make a paste - but it'll do in a pinch. But I usually just mix it in with things - like yogurt or chocolate protein shakes - then it's OK! -
I also was really, really hungry right after surgery. For me, what seemed to really help the hunger go away is when I was finally able to get enough protein in starting at about 1-1.5 weeks after. I was having trouble at first because I totally gagged on the pre-made protein drinks I had tried and found fine before surgery. My protein intake increased partly because I moved to full fluids and was able to start eating things like yogurt. I also found an unflavored protein powder I liked and added to pudding and broth. (Just be careful adding protein powder to hot liquids - if the liquid is too hot, the protein clumps up and gets all gross.) Now that I'm 3 months out, the unflavored protein powder is still my staple - I'm back on coffee, so I use it to make a 30 g protein latte most mornings - heaven! Hang in there! The first few weeks after surgery can be really tough, but you'll start to feel better and find your routine soon.
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Thanks. And yes, 64 lbs in 5 months is crazy For food, I am generally right around 800-900 calories, with around 70 grams of protein. I am low carb, but not super low, so I'm happy between 50-80 grams net (excluding my fiber). My typical day includes: Breakfast: Coffee w/ sugar free creamer and a Protein shake. I add a fiber supplement as well. Lunch Varies, but something like chicken salad on whole grain bread (1 slice) or ground chicken w/ beans and taco seasoning Dinner Varies as well, but generally chicken of some sort with veggies. I generally don't snack. I have just started to feel hungry again so if I am really hungry I may have some greek yogurt. I also occasionally have a SF popsicle at night.