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Alcoholic Beverages
EricsAngel replied to I AM NOT MY SIZE's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
9 years out and alcohol has come between me and my goal weight. I still am 100 lbs down from where I started but not where I wanted to be. My best advice is, if you want to drink at all...keep it to one or two drinks and drink something like vodka and light cranberry juice or red wine. 9 yrs. out -
Alcoholic Beverages
UKHEIDI replied to I AM NOT MY SIZE's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi there Started drinking 10 months after which immediately slowed my weight loss because of calories plus alcohol came with less control over chips and the like then discovered I was using it as a substitute soother for food - so felt needed to stop i found the effect of the alcohol very variable post sleeve. Sometimes I‘d have a single glass of wine and be absolutely drunk, other times several glasses with no apparent effect best to leave for odd sip for family toasts and the like in my experience -
Alcoholic Beverages
mwrarr replied to I AM NOT MY SIZE's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Drinking postop is wild. For me, I would get exceedingly drunk off half of a drink...and then mentally sober up just as quickly, which I could keep drinking through and not feel drunk anymore. Obviously, I'd still be drunk, but didn't feel it at all. It started very innocently this way for me, and quickly led to a couple years of alcoholic behaviours. These days, I can control it, but I had to take about 9 months away from alcohol altogether. I limit myself to 1 drink and if I'm with people who can't fathom that, I just won't drink with them at all. Additionally, I am convinced that it completely derailed my weight loss. -
Has anyone started drinking alcoholic beverages after being sleeved? If so, how's that going for you?
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Let's Shake The Tree!! Hey Vets, Maintaining is All About The Rules...Right?
blizair09 replied to FluffyChix's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Aww. Thank you. I appreciate that. Until the last couple of weeks, I took a break from BP. It really is designed more for pre-op folks and recent post-ops, so there isn't much for me here anymore. (That, plus most of the people I talked with are long gone by now.) I'm glad to be back, though. I don't respond to a lot of posts these days, but I do sometimes when I feel that I can contribute (or that people might listen...). I had to really work to get my calories in the 1900-2000 range. And I eat every 2 hours all day long to get there. I was in the 1600-1750 range for a long time, but I wouldn't stop losing weight. My doctor doesn't want me to go below 170, so I knew I had to get the calories closer to 2000. (I think a person my size needs about 2100 to maintain, so I really should try to get it up a little more, but I've stayed at 173 for a while now, so I think I'm good at the moment.) Some people eat carbs and are fine, but my body is just really sensitive to them. And getting my mindset around food to where it is took a lot of work. Trust me, a few months with carbs would put that in jeopardy (just like booze with an alcoholic), and that is why I am how I am. And I have seen so many people have one surgery or the other and then gain most or all of their weight back (including my mom, dad and brother). I just don't want to be one of those people. -
Let's Shake The Tree!! Hey Vets, Maintaining is All About The Rules...Right?
blizair09 replied to FluffyChix's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm 16 months post-op, met goal of 180 at 1 year and 4 days post-op (October 2, 2017) and have been at 173 for several months now. I am incredibly particular about what I eat and drink, and, in my opinion, that has been the key to my success. I've worked my way up to around 1900-2000 calories per day, but I never go over 2000. I keep my carbs below 25 grams per day. I follow a keto way of eating. This is sustainable for me, and it's how I am going to live. I haven't had any sugar, bread, starch, etc. in almost 2 years. It's no thing now. Food is fuel to me, and nothing else. It's quite freeing, and provides for a much better quality of life for me. I'm treating carbs like an alcoholic treats booze. I feel like they are a slippery slope for me, so I eradicated them from my life, and I have no plan or desire to bring them back. Being this size, being healthy, and having a happy life is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO ME than any food or drink. I'm technically not a vet in the eyes of BP for another couple of months, but I have been doing this for a long time, been successful, and been on and off of these boards for 2 years. I've seen a lot, and lived a lot, and accepted a very long time ago that this journey is for the rest of my life. I'll be damned if I gain anything back after I permanently changed my body and put it through all of that trauma... -
So I l l did they get you all fixed up? Pancreatitis is no fun, I've been there. No gall bladder, no abuse or even ingestion of alcohol, but I had it anyway. Sent from my VS880PP using BariatricPal mobile app
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Post-op Gallbladder’s and pancreatitis
kakatlady612 replied to Rose400491's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have had pancreatitis myself, not a fun disease. I had my gallbladder removed in 1983, in the bad old days it was An open procedure. General surgeon walks in my room, announces We'll have to remove your gallbladder-haha,its been gone for 30+ years, then asks how long I've abused alcohol. Wrong Bozo, I don't drink. He further says But that's what usually causes it. Can you tell at at that point he is not,my favorite person? I had been laying there in a state of peace when he barreled in. Well Sherlock, I told him, you'd better,put, on your thinking cap cause you just struck out. They never did find out what caused my case so it went into the records as idiopathic, a fancy doctor word for Duhh I don't know what caused it either. You can get gallstones in your pancreatic duct as well as the biliary one.The two duct systems kinda go together and empty,their,products into the small intestine. My surgeon in 1983 said he put gallstones on a charm bracelet for his wife. Don't know how long they lasted before they disintergrated. Sent from my VS880PP using BariatricPal mobile app -
Post-op Gallbladder’s and pancreatitis
Rose400491 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sleeved: October 17th 2017 I’ve heard gallbladder problems are common after gastric surgery and a lot of people get their gallbladder out when they get surgery. I’m in the hospital right now and I just found out I have gallstones! Then to further testing mild pancreatitis I’m assuming that was caused from the gallstones because I do not drink alcohol. I have never had problems pre or post op (until now) wondering if anyone else has had experience like this? -
Anyone else feel out of place on nights like tonight?
elforman replied to kandywolf's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I can sympathize with you somewhat. I'm allergic to alcohol so it's like having a built-in two drink limit. I HATE parties and events where people go primarily to get smashed. I've skipped my best friend's birthday party most years because they're all centered around drinking. There is nothing worse than being the only sober person in the room so I find I'll go to some events like that and leave early before I'm surrounded by incoherent morons. As far as handling things when things are centered around food, I'll be OK since I can at least still carry a conversation while others are eating. I'm already the last one to finish eating, not because I eat too much, but because I like to talk during meals to make them last longer. -
Anyone else feel out of place on nights like tonight?
ctdan replied to kandywolf's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was just thinking about this. I am celebrating a birthday and super bowl this weekend. No alcohol and no pigging out. I am getting through it by going to one of my safe resturants for my Birthday and cooking a healthy meal for tonight. For a cake I got the smallest carvel cake for my family to split. -
Anyone else feel out of place on nights like tonight?
kandywolf posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I realize on nights like tonight, for the US people, its the superbowl. Centered around food and usually alcohol. I feel out of place in these situations. I am staying home tonight (smooth move tea and I are fighting! Bad day!) Even going to restaurants, parties, get togethers, even game night. They all center around food. I have been avoiding restaurants because in early January we went to Applebees, which was fine. They let me order off the kids menu (4 oz sirloin? $6 and came with salad!) I ended up being in pain the rest of the night. I had an ounce of steak, 2 forkfulls of salad. The issue, I drank water while eating. Holy moly! It is sheer habit. Does it get easier? How do I break those habits? SW 350 (11/15) BSW 260 (10/17/17) CW 216.1 (2/4/18) RGW 199 GW 175 -
Let's Shake The Tree!! Hey Vets, Maintaining is All About The Rules...Right?
summerset replied to FluffyChix's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
If you're able to maintain that kind of starvation lifestyle for 2 or 3 years and beyond - kudos to you! I'm terrified of having to eat 1000-1200 cals a day while needing to exercise 4-5 days 45 min a day. Find a sustainable lifestyle early on. Like a really sustainable lifestyle. One that fits your needs and not that of somebody else or a lifestyle that blows to pieces the very moment "life hits you". I know a lot of users on here throw a fit the very moment there is talk about "moderation" - however, I think our whole life is about "moderation", not only this eating stuff. Or maybe I should rather use the word "regulation" instead? You need to learn how to regulate yourself, the amount you eat, drink, use alcohol or caffeine, have sex, exercise, express your emotions etc. Too little of these things and life might be miserable, too much of these things and life might be miserable, too. -
Calling March Sleevers
AskingForAFriend replied to AskingForAFriend's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I cannot drop coffee! I did drop wine/alcohol but I'm on my way to get coffee now. I just can't give that up right now. I am ordering my bariatric vitamins this week, along with something to keep my hair from falling out. I drink water all day every day....you sound really focused. Happy for you. I am hoping to get OFF of the CPAP, i hate that thing and I've been on it for over 5 years. Pleased to meet you! -
January 2018 Sleevers- How is everyone doing? Please post.
niceross replied to Honeyswt's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was sleeved on 1/3. I am 5’7, was 255 at surgery and I’m down to 226 in 4 weeks. I had a rough 2 week recovery, but feeling fine now. I had a slew of health problems for the last 8 years after gaining 90lbs very quickly. I am happy to say ALL traces of the edema I had are completely gone, I’m off lasix and all my blood pressure meds. I don’t have reflux anymore either. I have 4 more weeks on the mushies stage until I can eat regularly, but I don’t feel restricted on my food choices right now anyway except for anything seeded and raw veggies. I am only able to eat 2oz at a time, but I supplement with two protein shakes a day. I have a few expensive bags of bariatric advantage left that I can’t stand anymore, but I really like the muscle milk with the 32g of protein in it. I tried Isopure drinks 🤢. Still on the hunt for a protein source I can add to my water that isn’t whey and has a milky taste. I have the flu, so I haven’t been exercising but still able to drink and eat “normally” I had a craving for something sweet, and i found a bunch of keto recipes on Pinterest that were sugar free and low carb obviously, my favorite are no bake energy balls made with almond flour and peanut butter. Crystal light is my drink of choice. No alcohol yet, no desire which is weird because I used to drink often. Not in large quantities but often. -
Many people will die without liver transplants. But there are conditions for getting a transplant. You have to remain alcohol free for a set period of time to qualify for a liver transplant to save your life. If you screw up and have drink...you don't get a transplant. And you die. And that's on you. YOU have responsibility in the process. Many people do elect to die. Just like weight loss surgery. You can elect to comply, or you can elect to die. It's up to you. To qualify, you have to be accountable and prove that you're serious about changing the behavior that contributed to the damage. Without behavior changes, weight loss surgery is not only a waste of resources, it also can cause more harm. Particularly, if a patient cannot get hold of their eating habits enough to keep themselves safe. Yes, you have to lose weight before surgery and prove you can break your addiction JUST EXACTLY like liver transplant patients must give up alcohol. Liver transplant patients get their blood alcohol tested....weight loss patients get weighed. If you screw it up, the next step is therapy, not surgery. If the fact that "you're going to die" without surgery is not enough to inspire you to comply with a few months of pre-surgical requirements....you will very likely get a referral to a psychologist to help you work on these issues first. Not being unkind, just telling you the truth.
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Hi there. Just hitting on a few topics you mentioned: First, I'm jealous you don't have that waiting period. I used to have Anthem BC but the company switched to CIGNA in Jan '17, so now I'm stuck with the three month supervised diet. Next, as far as what to tell co-workers and clients without lying: Tell them you've had some health issues and you're now on a very strict medically-supervised diet. Even post-op, that's the absolute truth. If they inquire more just use the schmoozing skills you've likely picked up in sales to change the topic, like saying you'd rather talk about your product or the client's needs instead of some medical condition you're tired of talking about. If you need an excuse for not drinking, then go ahead and lie and tell them you can't mix alcohol with your medications. Or if you're OK drinking but need to lower expectations about how much you can consume and you want to stick with some truthiness, tell them since you have limited food intake your alcohol tolerance is very low and the doctor has limited you to one small glass of wine or whatever your drink of choice is.
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I had some flushing,my Dr said too many carbs and if you drink any alcohol can cause this.
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Crunchy Foods & Lack of Satiety - Even Nuts?
orionburn replied to Taylor5's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
To be honest this is the wake-up call you probably need. The surgery is just a tool. You're seeing already how easy it can be to still get a lot of calories in without a lot of food. The cravings and head hunger aren't things that just go away with surgery. We're always going to have those battles. Things like nuts aren't bad for you (maybe not so much now because it's not on your plan) but as with everything moderation is key. You're going to find that certain foods are going to fill you up and others won't. Slider foods being the biggest culprit. Soups and soft foods (like yogurt) are easier to pass through the system. Denser proteins are going to be harder to break down. Like you said it's easy to break down nuts into a very fine paste of sorts. With something like chicken you're going to break it down but not to the extent of the nuts. Most of us are going to stumble from time to time. Get back up on your feet and stay on track. Hopefully you can find some healthy rewards of sorts as you can bring more foods back into your diet. I mean for me a Greek Yogurt with a little bit of Cool Wip is a nice dessert like treat for me. I'm a big love of mixed nuts as well and I allow myself to have them from time to time, but I have to do it as a treat now and then. Again...moderation. Another thing is treating it like alcoholism. Don't put yourself in situations that you feel you can't handle yet. I mean seriously, if you're trying to stop drinking you don't go hang out in a bar a week after you quit. If you're going to go out pick something where you have no choice but to eat something healthy. The sooner/better you get at controling your urges now the better you'll set yourself up for the long term. -
I was sleeved 10/5 and am only down about 35 lbs. I was doing well in October and November but did not do well in December or January. My husband was admitted for impatient alcohol treatment on November 27 and was there for 30 days. This was obviously very stressful and having to deal with all of that stress without my go too stress reliever (aka Food) was very difficult. I also was using alcohol myself to try to cope with the situation. Well good news is he is back home and doing great! He has been sober for 2 months and i'm going on a month and a half. I've never felt so good. I'm back on track now and hit a new low today on the scale and only have 4 more pounds to lose to get to my wedding day weight. I'm excited to keep working on this and excited to see the change it has in my life and my family's life!!!! I love this forum for the support everyone has for one another it's great!
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I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
Little Green replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Jeez, y'all. This thread won't die! Can we all just agree that increased dependence on alcohol is a risk after surgery due to various factors, that encouraging others to go against their surgeon's guidelines is unwise, and that some people will still go their own way, with or without complications, and it's not possible to argue them out of it? -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
sillykitty replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I read this article, and then did some reading of the studies she seems to draw her conclusions from. IMO, she comes to conclusions that are not entirely supported by the research. The idea of transfer addiction sounds good, and seems logical, but the data is not so clear. From my own perspective, I find it difficult to believe that someone like myself who has had unrestricted access to alcohol for the last twenty years, and no addiction problems, will suddenly develop one post WLS. Also not everyone needs WLS due to food addiction. I know for myself, and many other overweight people I know, it is about poor food choices and inactivity, and nothing to do with compulsion or addiction. For me, the biggest deterrent to alcohol post surgery will be the empty calories. I know I can easily drink 1000+ calories a night. But I also know that will undermine all the work of having WLS and keep me from my goal. -
Married people....8 out of ten of us will get divorced within 2 years
Creekimp13 replied to Creekimp13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
There are a lot of issues that can contribute....transfer additions are a huge one. Where people who used to use food to cope turn to alcohol or other substances and end up damaging their relationships/careers/etc. -
Calorie Intake for weight loss after weight gain.
merylinda replied to merylinda's topic in Food and Nutrition
Thank you! Yea, sadly they won’t lol My calorie intake eating as I would say like a beast protein after protein yesterday was about 600. Thankfully, I realized where I was gaining all the weight gain, it was from alcohol, I could drink a bottle of wine like it’s no ones business as I cleaned my home. So I quit the fun drinking and now am just focusing on fueling my body with what it needs -
I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
linda8 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was told no alcohol for 6 months
