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Take a look at the Mayo Clinic Diet. It's based on the Mediterranean diet....which is the diet eaten by the people who have the best longevity in the world...lowest heart disease and cancer rates, too. I have never felt better in my life or enjoyed my diet more....than when I started eating the Mayo Clinic Diet. (have been on it since June of last year) My nutritionist is fully supportive of my continuing this diet. I have no problem hitting my 60+ g of protein goal, and I keep my calories between 1000-1200 a day. Some nutritionists will really push keto after bariatric surgery....but my office serves a population of people from all over the world...many vegans, some following very different cultural eating habits...so they're more open to different paths up the mountain so to speak:) Best wishes to you on your journey.
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I was doing a Keto like diet (was not hitting the fat goals) then I went on vacation and it was shot to hell So I'm doing a low carb plan but nothing like before. I didn't notice any gained weight as a result of the switch however I am in the early months of post surgery my body seems to enjoy the fruits and vegetables more than the proteins (I was a vegetarian prior to surgery anyways) but I'm still being careful to keep rice bread and the likes out of my diet.
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Pre-op diet changes - Hungry!
elforman replied to NJ Patty's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Did the nutritionist lay out a dietary plan for you? Granted, all my nutritionist told me on the first visit was to cut out carbonated beverages and avoid carbs after breakfast. I also had to meet with a dietician at the hospital who basically said I had to meet a certain number of grams of per day pre- and post-surgery, so I took it upon myself to just go full keto. The advantages of doing keto are no calorie counting and little portion measuring, plus with all of the meat, eggs and I cheese I get, I haven't felt hungry in several weeks. So I suggest calling the nutritionist again and asking if he/she has any specific recommendations for you other than "eat less". -
anyone following ketogenic lifestyle after WLS?
OutsideMatchInside replied to drmeow's topic in Food and Nutrition
We talked about it here http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/360260-ketogenic-diet/ I eat Keto. It is nice to follow post-op. It is hard to get the fats in really. I keep my carbs low easily and my Protein goals I meet daily. If I fall short on fat, it isn't the end of the world. -
I'm 17 months post-op. I lost over 100% of my excess weight, got to my goal at 1 year and 4 days post-op, and have been maintaining almost 10 pounds below goal for over 5 months now. If you eat and drink how you are supposed to eat and drink, you won't regain. I know that a sedentary person at my size (6'0" 173 pounds) needs around 2100 calories per day to maintain his weight; therefore, I keep my calories around 2000 each day. I follow a keto way of eating, so I keep my carbs below 25g per day and my protein around 150g per day. I don't consume sugar, bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, etc. I had to make food fuel in my life and I changed my relationship with food to embrace an eat to live philosophy. I had to do that after having a destructive relationship with food for 40 years. I understand that neither the keto thing nor the eat to live philosophy is for everyone, but the fact remains that if you eat within the proper parameters, you shouldn't regain weight. Frankly having an active, healthy social life beats the hell out of any food and drink any day. I am living my 20s in my 40s and having the time of my life!!
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your pouch is probably fine. Supposedly it takes work to stretch it - as in chronic overstuffing. You're probably just used to eating more, and it's hard to cut back once you've been eating at a higher calorie level. Regain is pretty common - but I know a lot of people who've managed to lose it. Some have gone to Weight Watchers, some start counting calories again, some do Keto, some do Intermittent Fasting - whatever works. But I would get on it now before it really gets out of control. It'll be a lot easier to lose 20 lbs than 50... If you're a calorie counter (I am...), then track your intake for a week or two to figure out what your current average calorie intake is. I find it hard to drastically cut mine, so I just try to cut it by 100-ish calories at first, then after a week or two, I'll cut another 100 calories - and so on if you hate calorie counting, then go back to following the rules we all followed the first year - protein first, then non-starchy veggies, and then if you have room, a small serving of fruit or whole grain carb. Or find a program that you like and can stick with for awhile (like Keto or WW), and try that...
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2 Years Post OP and struggling
SteveT74 replied to Nayro827's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I think you already know many of the answers to your questions. You got out of your healthy rhythm and need to find the motivation to get back on track. I would suggest you make an appointment with the nutritionist at your surgeon's practice to discuss what's going on with your weight loss. You don't want to let it go for too long. If you think working with a personal trainer will get you motivated, go for it! Weight is lost in the kitchen, not the gym--but, working out can be a good motivator for eating healthy. Also, you can definitely do Keto after bariatric surgery. I am only 3 weeks out and I am essentially doing keto. Obviously, I am eating more protein and my macro doesn't look exactly like the ideal Keto macro, but I cut my carb intake to less than 20g of net carbs per day. I am getting my 100g + of protein a day and the rest of my calories are from healthy fats like avocado. It's been enough to put me into a state of ketosis and I think it's helping me along the way. Plus, I am very happy with the foods I am eating. For me, this is a sustainable lifestyle. If you're a carb addict, it can be hard to give up those carbs--it takes about 4 days to get through the "withdrawal" and even a little longer with keto, but it's totally doable. You can definitely do it... think about how you were able to handle the pre-op liquid diet. Keto is way easier than that!!! -
Enjoying food is gone?
Sammi_Katt replied to imaginegirl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So I'm just starting to eat real solid foods again, and honestly, my taste buds have changed a little bit, but I really enjoy food still. Taking the time to eat slowly kinda lets me savor it? I've been experimenting with bariatric and keto recipes and I'm finding some really nice and tasty things that are well within the dietitian's guidelines. You may have a few things that don't taste as good as they used to (I'm kind of sad that fish for me doesn't taste really good), but things you didn't like before might taste good now, too (I like cooked spinach all of a sudden). It's a lot of experimenting and guessing and seeing what your new body reacts well with. -
Yes, keto has been around for a long time, as has most of the popular diets that have gone in and out of fashion - there really isn't all that many things that can be done in a weight loss diet that hasn't been tried before and found wanting, often multiple times. Keto has some apparent benefit in the treatment of epilepsy but beyond that it is fundamentally just a fail safe or backup mode for our bodies in time of famine - we can get by but the body really doesn't like it (that's why if provides you with the bad breath and BO, telling you that this really isn't a great idea....) Over the short to intermediate term, it can work well - as most diets do - but in the longer term for the morbidly obese, beyond a year or so, it shows the same 95+% failure rate as any other diet effort (though WLS tends to extend that years' grace period some.) Indeed, if you go back 20-30 years in the WLS world, many were often told to simply eat as they did before, but just less (courtesy of their WLS) and it overall worked well for the first year or so, but obviously since they never learned to eat sustainably and correct the habits that caused them to need WLS in the first place, they typically regained. So, from a strictly weightloss perspective (as opposed to longer term weight control), almost any diet will work with your WLS for the first year or so. What really counts is how well you adapt to a sustainable weight maintenance life in the long term. If keto works for you to do that - great; if going vegetarian or vegan does it, that is also great. Balanced diet, South Beach, Zone, Atkins, low fat, Mediterranean or whatever - go for it, and don't worry about what others do because if it doesn't make sense to you, then is isn't right for you. Clinically, high fat, low carb diets such as keto or paleo (or at least the current commercial interpretation of paleo) are used for minimizing or avoiding weight loss after a gastrectomy (such as when done for cancer or gastroparesis) owing to its high caloric density - one needs lots of calories in a small volume to maintain weight, which is just what such diets provide. This isn't to say that they can't be used for losing weight, but the odds are more stacked against one in doing so, and one needs to be aware that just because a food or recipe is labelled as keto (or paleo, vegetarian, vegan, etc.) doesn't mean that it is appropriate for weight loss or contol - one still needs to watch what one eats.
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Yep, could be keto flu. Google it & see if it’s what you’re experiencing. Plus you’re likely experiencing withdrawals from caffeine, sugar, etc. It does get better. Good luck with your surgery.
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Hi! As school is getting ready to vamp up, I am trying to prepare for the year. My family is extremely picky and I know I need to start now making changes in their diet so they can support me. I am only 10 days post op but I was looking to build my meal planning box. Was curious if those that are further out see any similarities between keto diets and the eating requirements post sleeve. Do you have a favorite website for recipe ideas? It would be great if I could cook once and eat a small portion and my family could have normal portions. Thanks for your help.
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Is Post sleeve diet similar to Keto diet?
mybariatricjourney replied to nativenm's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hello just wanted to share some good information per the Keto Lifestyle! Good luck with your journey [emoji5]!!! https://kickincarbclutter.blogspot.com/2017/06/getting-into-ketosis-after-bariatric-surgery.html?m=1 mybariatricjourney -
Whiny moment :(
erica_ozzy73 replied to Kirbykendall06's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Pinterest ... vsg recipes ... paleo... keto...no carb... It's awesome Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Need to hear from VSG to DS revisioners
Goldy6575 replied to Goldy6575's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Yes, here is update. It took a little longer for me to heal for the DS over the sleeve. My belly was sore and bloated for a solid 2 weeks, with painful gas. It was a pretty uncomfortable recovery in the hospital. I had mine in Mexico and they really don't give you any pain meds. I now have figured out what I can eat. Pretty much anything I want!! Minus sugar...I have found I can still eat bread on my sandwich with no ill effect, and can have just a few bites of dessert. I can have 1 slice of pizza, steak and corn on the cob, roast beef, ... nothing really bothers my stomach. Since I am trying to lose, I do limit my portions, but I'm fully satisfied. Do not feel like I'm missing out at all, nor do I have uncontrollable cravings. I have found that if I eat too much of a carb or sugar, I will have gas and alot more loose stool the next day. It's not like uncontrollable diarrhea or anything, just have to go alot. For that reason it's really not worth it to overeat on carbs, and it keeps me from doing it. And I try to limit my carbs for the weight loss effect, not low carb by any means... just do half a piece of bread with sandwich, etc. The bathroom situation is not as horrible as a lot made it out to be. I had problems with constipation before, so it's actually nice to have looser stools. It is more stinky, but it's worth it!! I have not had any accidents..when I'm traveling I take devrom tablets, and it takes the stinkies away. It took awhile for me to trust the weight loss from malabsorption. At first I didn't trust it, and was eating hardly anything at all, and it actually slowed my weight loss. Once I trusted it, and ate like a normal person (about 1000-1300 cals a day) the weight started coming off. I have lost 12 since July 20. It's slow but steady. I average about 2 lbs a week... before my DS when I would try so hard doing keto, or 1000 cals a day ( which felt like starvation) I absolutely would not lose. For breakfast I usually have 4 sausage links or low sugar oatmeal. For lunch a deli meat sandwich with cheese and Mayo, usually on just one piece bread. For dinner, usually grill a meat with a veggie, or do tacos, or bacon avacado sandwich, or egg drop soup with 2 crab rangoon. Or I also love Amy's frozen cheese enchiladas. I try not to snack between meals, because most snacks are carb heavy. If I do, I'll do cheese sticks. Any questions, please ask. Would I do it over again, heck yes. -
I personally don't have any tips, however, I am on a fb group page where people who post say this way of eating has helped them. Maybe google "Keto diet with Lupus" or something similar.
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115 pounds lost is phenomenal. How did you do it? Did you have to adopt a different strategy for the last few pound The last pounds can be painfully slow. We have less body fat to burn. No different diet or strategy . Reaching a lower BMI was not important to me. Its just where I ended up. I wish there was less emphasis on BMI. The goal to me is healthy. You said “The final pounds of weight loss are difficult and - because of the type severe restriction to get there - are not often sustainable” I agree that severe restriction is not sustainable. I did not use severe restriction to get to my BMI. I used bariatic basics and the calories/macros that kept my body in weight loss mode. Many do Bariatric basics, Keto, intermittent fasting, whole 30. Vegan paleo Etc. These are weight loss phase diets. You said "Ketogenic diets are not really recommended long-term for bariatric patients" Maintenance phase diet is a totally different long-term food plan.(ask your office for your plan) My instructions add calories, carbs, and fats to slow/stop weight loss. It’s been sustainable for me at five years out. You said " There's a risk that if I go back to a diet with 'forbidden foods', I may start thinking about it too much again (which - for me - would be counter-productive). You may want to work with a counselor to address this issue. Restricting and thinking about food too much is counter productive. I hope you find your own balance with all this. None of this is easy, right?
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3 weeks post op stopped losing, gained a little????
RickM replied to calvinrn2011's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Here is a good explanation of the early (three or third week typically) stall: https://www.dsfacts.com/weight-loss-stall-or-plateau.php The term "NUT" is a derogatory term, though many on the forums may not appreciate it, derived from the fact that many on the forums find that their RDs or nutritionists aren't prescribing the latest fad diet that can be found on the internet, so they refer to them as being "nuts" for being so "ignorant" about nutrition ("everybody" "knows" that you gotta do Atkins/Paleo/Keto or whatever is hot today, to lose weight.....) Fundamentally, this initial stall is primarily part of your body adapting to the large caloric deficit that you are imposing upon it, and has little, if anything, to do with what dietary stage you are on - liquids, mushes, softs, etc. as even those of us who started out on soft foods experience it. Also, it would not be unexpected for your loss rate to slow some once things pick up again, as once you get through this initial phase of depleting your glycogen reserves and actually start burning that stored fat, things shift a bit as glycogen (stored carbs, basically) burn faster than fats - approximately 2000 calories per pound for glycogen vs. 3500 calories per pound for fats, so you will be burning more calories to lose a pound from now on. I never had a notable stall at this point, but there was a distinct dogleg in my loss curve at right about three weeks. -
I'm trying HFLC (Atkins/ Keto) to see what happens. I'm only 10 weeks out so maybe I shouldn't be doing that, but I was already pretty much doing it anyway, except for the high fats. I just want to make sure that I stay in ketosis and stay away from non-vegetable carbs because starchy foods have always been hard for me to eat in moderation. Today I had 660 calories/ 11 net carbs/ 32 grams of fat/ 73 grams of protein. I've been eating up to 1,100 calories most days, though. I lost 2.5 pounds in week one. I weigh again in the morning. Fingers crossed!
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I Think I'm Doing Everything Wrong...and Shrinking
blizair09 replied to Raffi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'll chime in... First, I abstained from alcohol for the entirety of my six month pre-op diet program and the first 3 months post-op. I just wasn't willing to derail the progress I wanted to make on the front end of the surgery (where I lost 100 pounds by surgery day) or the first few months post-op. I took my ex on a monthlong tour of SE Asia at the 3 months post-op point. I spoke with my surgeon about alcohol on the trip, and he told me that I would be fine. His only recommendation was to take it easy and test things out at home before I went out in public with it. I am now 16 months post-op, and it has been 22 months since I started this journey. I follow a keto way of eating and am really particular about what I put in my body. I have lost 225 pounds, am below goal, and have maintained beautifully for several months now. Do I have alcohol? Yes, I do. I mostly have red wine and I mostly only have it when I am traveling for work or on the weekends. Drinking has always been a very social thing for me. Yes, there are statistics about WLS and alcoholism just there are statistics about losing more weight with a bypass than a sleeve. But, I'll same the same thing about the alcohol as I did about the bypass vs sleeve weight loss issue in a thread the other day. It depends on the person. If you were inclined toward alcoholism before, you will be now. If you are eating and exercising like you should, a few drinks (especially with low- or no-carb mixers) probably won't cause you a problem. I had a sleeve and have been more successful than many bypass patients. It just depends on each person's story. But if your alcohol calories outnumber your food calories, that is an issue. Something to think about. To each his own. I have no issue with it, and never have gained one once from it, but I am also crazy obsessed about what I eat and how often I imbibe. It's all about balance, in my opinion. Good luck! -
I have since about 6 months post-op. I eat more stuff that is not strict Keto, but low carb a couple days a week, but on a daily basis, I am Keto. I low carbed for about 6 years before surgery to control my diabetes without insulin, so this isn't a new thing to me. I don't really associate with a post-op surgery life, but with being healthy and my body running at optimal levels. Combining Keto with WLS though, is so easy and delicious it seems like cheating If I followed a normal bariatric post-op diet. I am pretty sure I would have bottomed out in the 240-250 range. Just make sure you don't follow it blindly. Use a calculator to set your Macros and weight/measure all your food and track it.
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I'm doing keto as soon as I can eat again.
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I have MCT and done the bulletproof coffee- I can't say unnoticed too much difference in energy or weightloss... I use the keto strips to stay in ketosis. The only thing I would say is remember it is an oil/fat and to think about the calories of a TBS spoon of oil- also too much MCT and you will be heading to the potty [emoji4]
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yes! i LOVE keto! also an easy way to explain your diet without detailing your surgery
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Hi all! So I’m in need of some info.. are we low cal, low fat or low carb? See the reason I ask is because low carb is high fat, high protein.. but I thought fat was not good for us… now that I am almost 6 weeks out (Friday makes exactly 6 weeks) I’m feeling hungrier. I eat 5 small meals, but if I actually eat I’m looking at more calories. I’ve been creeping upwards around 950 calories a day. When I used to do keto, I never looked at calories. Help!
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can someone please help me understand my husband?
thewifehere replied to thewifehere's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I’ve already tried that 😭 we turned it off half way through because he kept arguing it was propaganda. We’d recently watched Forks over Knives and I was sold on WFPB. He’s not. He believes in keto.
