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Thank you for your thoughts, I am at such a loss here.. I will keep searching for anything that helps.
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Congrats on your weight loss journey and prioritizing your health! As your skin adjusts to the changes, it's common to experience dryness and changes in texture. Here are a few tips to help prevent facial wrinkling: First, stay hydrated to keep your skin moisturized from within. Secondly, incorporate a good skincare routine with hydrating products, like a gentle cleanser, moisturizer, and sunscreen. Also, consider using products containing Argireline, which can help temporarily smooth out wrinkles. Remember, everyone's skin is unique, so what works for others might not work for you.
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New obesity meds in progress
Arabesque replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
About 20 years ago I was prescribed the weight loss miracle pill: Reductil (sibutramine). It was great. Killed my appetite to the point I was eating once a day & I lost weight. But when I did eat I wasn’t interested in prepping good healthy meals. I must have been so lacking in necessary nutrients & vitamins. And I didn’t sleep - like only getting an hour or so a night for months. (Actually think it contributed to my developing poor sleeping habits which have only improved since my surgery.) when I went off the med my appetite came back as did my weight because I ate in the same way as I had before. Then came the news they were taking it off the market because of side effects they’d newly discovered - anal leakage, cardiac issues (strokes, heart attacks, etc.). Yikes. It’s why I worry about these medications. What happens when they stop taking them, what long term side effects are they yet to discover & what impact does the reduced food intake have on their general health & is that being monitored? Yes, we were on a reduced diet & many of us lost our hunger & appetite for a time after our surgery but we were also given guidelines to ensure we met nutritional needs & foods we should or shouldn’t be eating. We also had regular blood tests to ensure we weren’t low in anything & our health wasn’t being affected. All of which contributed to us changing our eating behaviours & helped us learn how to make better food choices. Those with diabetes who are on these meds would, I’d hope, already be aware of their nutrient needs & how to regulate their eating. But I understand some believe these medications are their their best/only option because they don’t want to or can’t have weight loss surgery. I just wish that when they’re given their prescription they’re also given a referral to a dietician, nutritional guidelines & their health is regularly monitored. Just my opinion. No judgement. We all do what we feel we have to do which is best for us & our lives. -
I Am Not Really Seeing The Weight Loss I Was Expecting
ms.sss replied to Hey Man's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Fun fact: the most weight i ever lost in one month AFTER wls was the first post op month with 21 lbs lost (and i was about 225 at the beginning of said month). the most weight i ever lost in one month BEFORE surgery was 25 lbs (and i started off that month at 180-ish). so weight loss roughly the same-ish. and i was eating roughly the same-ish (i.e., basically nothing lol). i didn't expect to lose "faster" because it still boils down to calories in-calories out. maybe if i ate less in that POST-op month than i did that PRE-op month, sure. but i can't eat less than "basically nothing"! thats just math. and science. surgery doesn't make me burn more calories. its all restriction-based (though rNy does have a malabsorption aspect to it...but i digress). now the main difference is this: i re-gained those lost 25 PRE-op lbs plus packed on another 55 for good measure over the following 4 years. VS...keeping those 21 POST-op lbs off PLUS losing an additional 99 lbs on top of that over the following 7 months. im 4.5+ years out now and have continued to (more or less) keep all 120 lbs off for over 4 years (FOUR YEARS! that still blows my mind...i have never lost weight before and even come close to keeping it ALL off for even 4 MONTHS). yes, you will lose at the same rate doing diet and exercise as you would with surgery and it's associated physical restriction, IF (and that's a BiG IF) u continue with the diet and exercise. which leads us to the age-old question: so why didn't u? food for thought. ❤️ -
That's good. I realized that I pay more attention to everything now. I'm reading everything I'm talking to my self lol in Walmart telling myself you know you can't have that. Imma wait one more week before I put anything in my body that's more solid because I need to see weight loss before I start adding all that other stuff
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Just an update on the expanding science in the treatment of obesity! https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02092-9 https://www.gq.com/story/the-next-ozempic-will-probably-be-a-pill/amp https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/23/health/eli-lilly-pill-orforglipron/index.html https://nypost.com/2023/06/27/new-triple-g-weight-loss-drug-may-be-better-than-ozempic/amp/
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Struggling… the evil voice is back.
ms.sss replied to mcipanda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
case in point: i noticed the other day that my never-overweight-in-her-life friend of mine eats basically the same way (and roughly the same amounts) as i do with my significantly reduced intake post-wls. i've known her for over 25 years and she never seems like she feels deprived (never says, oh i cant eat that, etc) nor is anywhere close to having the same "awareness" (for lack of a better word) as i do regarding food choices. she just seems to eat what she wants just in smaller amounts. and always had for as long as i've known her. she's not on a diet, it seems... its just her normal eating habits. i think the idea of deprivation may come when a person longs to keep their obese eating habits vs accepting and finding a new normal. long term success (meaning keeping the weight OFF) with weight loss among the obese should ideally come with a significant mind shift...but not everyone can (nor maintain) that. ❤️ p.s. also want to add that i'm NOT saying i found nirvana or anything...for me its more of a "so far, so good" attitude about eating and weight loss maintenance. i am fully aware that i may gain unwanted weight in the future (nothing is forever!), but i'll deal with that when i have to deal with that. -
Struggling… the evil voice is back.
Fred in Pa replied to mcipanda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
If you see your diet after weight loss surgery as deprivation, you’re doing it wrong. After the weight is lost, the diet you maintain should be that of a normal weight person at normal caloric intake. There should be no deprivation involved. Getting to your goal weight involves caloric reduction but it should not be to the point that you want to binge… and if that’s the case, then again, you’re doing it wrong. And it should not really be called a “diet”, it should be normal, healthy eating. -
My son said the same thing, he also said I was focusing on the wrong thing as far as the weight loss is concerned
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JUNE SURGERY BUDDIES
Brandiwine77 replied to Mira88's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey there. Are you still having pain? It could be as simple as gas, as your body was thinking what have you done to me, lol. If you start having other issues, or the pain gets worse, definitely call your team. As for the weight loss, not everyone loses weight right away due to bloating and such, as it is major surgery. Follow your plan, and don't stress. It WILL happen. -
Yep, sounds like every side effect I’ve read about. It’s something I worry about: not eating & losing weight only because you feel too sick not because you are making better food choices & establishing better habits. And what happens when you stop the medication? Will you be able to continue to eat the much lower calorie intake needed to maintain your lower weight? My question is were you stalled or had you reached your set point - the weight your body is happiest at? It’s always much harder to lose below & maintain a weight that is lower than your set point. Your body will keep taking you back to that weight. Not everyone loses all the weight they may want to lose. The average weight loss for sleeve or bypass is about 65% of the weight to be lost to put you in a healthier weight range. From the numbers you gave you had already exceeded that average which is something to celebrate. Your choice of course but talk to your prescribing doctor about how to manage the side effects & the what happens after you stop taking the medication.
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Origami Paddlers sound so fun!! You'll have to post some pics when you get out on them! One of the adventures I want to have after some weight loss is horseback riding. (Every commercial place I've looked at close to me has a 250 pound limit).
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High protein meal/snack ideas, Hair loss, overeating
ms.sss replied to Erin18's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
snacks: crunchy veggies, cheese, beef jerky? hair loss: mine started at 3 months post and stopped around 6 months post. at around 18 months post, all the "new" hair that started sprouting up when hair loss stopped were the same length as my "old" almost-shoulder length hair (i had cut off all my hair into a pixie around 3 months). by 3 years post op my hair was about under-boob length and u would've never known i suffered serious hair loss. in fact i actually think its thicker and healthier now (plus it grew in kinda wavy, which i love). over-eating: now based on your description of the kinds of foods and amounts if it u eat in a typical day in your post, i kinda think you may be underestimating the cals you note u are consuming? without seeing the amounts and actual food, what you describe seems like it would add up to much more than 1200 cals a day? maybe you can go over your food logs with your nutritionist and see if they can help you identify areas to re-visit? -
My Gastric Sleeve Journey
LookingForward22 replied to TRClark23's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
My progress has been slow but steady. Sometimes I get a little frustrated because my loss isn’t as fast as others, but then I remind myself this isn’t a race and I’m working to a life long change not just a quick fix. I was over weight for most of my adult life, that change is going to take some time. I met a new “mini” goal today (I broke my weight-loss goals down into 10 mini phases/goals) so that felt pretty good. From my highest weight… I’m down 135 pounds! (57 of that was pre surgery loss, 78 since surgery). I’m hoping when I go for my 1 yr check up… I will be down 100 ponds post surgery (which will make 157 pounds lost if I hit that goal). Best of luck - hope you’re recovery is going well! You’ve got this. 🥰 -
My surgeon wanted me to lose 10-12 pounds, before surgery. They put me on Ozempic and that gave my body the little boost it needed, to start the weight loss. I lost 13 pounds on the Ozempic and when I had to stop taking it (because the clinic couldn't get any more samples and I couldn't afford it). They gave me a Rx for naltrexone and Wellbutrin, that seemed to help me stay on track and not gain. I had 4 months between the last of the Ozempic and my day of surgery. Maybe ask your team if there's anything that you can try. I was on OHP at the time (Oregon's version of Medicaid). They wouldn't cover the Ozempic, but they did cover both the naltrexone and Wellbutrin.
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That is great to know! Those are some impressive numbers . Congratulations! I am bald already so hair loss won’t affect me much! Thanks for sharing your experience
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Surgeon suggested bypass instead of sleeve.
Midwest Grateful replied to areyoukiddingme's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Thanks, @LindsayT. I'm glad you're doing well. I am def struggling with this decision for some reason. I probably just don't want the more invasive surgery. But I'm still on the fence. Way to go on rocking your weight loss! -
High protein meal/snack ideas, Hair loss, overeating
Tomo replied to Erin18's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
No hair loss with the sleeve. Post revision to RNY (for gerd), I experience quite a bit, about 6 months of it. Started late too like 5 months in. If you aren't meeting your protein requirement, just swap some of your junk food for something healthy with protein. If that is too difficult, then try to have a little protein with each meal to help fill you up. For example, if you eat chips, add a string cheese to that meal. I think a bariatric therapist may be able to help with the junkfood cravings if you have access to it. Since you are still in the honeymoon stage, that may help you for the future when the appetite comes roaring back. -
High protein meal/snack ideas, Hair loss, overeating
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Erin18's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When I had my sleeve, my hair loss lasted from months 3-9. It's growing back now and I have about 2 inches of regrowth, but I go in for my revision on the 28th, and I'm nervous about how thin my hair is gonna get now. -
High protein meal/snack ideas, Hair loss, overeating
Arabesque replied to Erin18's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hair loss usually lasts 3-4 months. You just have to ride it out until your accelerated hair loss cycle reverts to its usual rate. Those who spend money taking extra supplements using special shampoos, etc. find their accelerated hair loss slows at about 3 or 4 months so I say save your money. Your new hair is still growing just at its usual rate. Many of us cut our hair shorter if it was long so the new growth will reach your shorter length more quickly. And shorter hair is usually bouncier so can look thicker. May be get in contact with your dietician to review your food choices & suggest healthier alternatives because based on what you’ve said it seems you are eating too much & not making the best choices. Your dietician will also be able to advise on caloric goals that you need (we have different needs & are often given different goals), number of snacks each day & recommendations for intake of other macros (fats, carbs, sugars, etc.) & food groups. You just need to start implementing those better habits & routines. Start by making one or two changes & then next week make another change or two. Always easier to adapt to a couple of changes at a time than a total dramatic overhaul that can be too confronting & difficult to manage & stick to. A couple of tips. Avoid popcorn. It is a slider food & goes through you very quickly so it’s easy to eat too much. Usually rice, pasta, breads & bread alternatives (bagels, wraps, tortillas, etc.) are off the menu. They are considered high processed, nutrient poor simple carbs. They are too filling in your tiny tummy reducing your ability to eat more essential nutrient dense foods like your protein.h Get rid of the junk food out of your house so you won’t be tempted. If you have family, store their snacks in a separate area. Try not to skip your three meals - it only slows your metabolism. I eat later in the day because it works for me: breakfast at about 9am, snack at about 1pm, lunch at about 4, dinner at about 6pm. -
High protein meal/snack ideas, Hair loss, overeating
Erin18 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey people! 4 months and 3 days post RNY. What meal and snack ideas can you give me that are high in protein? I'm still not hitting my goals and currently thinking about drinking protein, turns my stomach. This happened in the beginning aftrr surgery as well. Any good recipes? I know there are recipes on here somewhere, but what are your top high protein foods? I need to start planning my foods ahead again. How long did everyone's hair loss last? When I had lapband in 2009, my hair loss wasn't as bad as it is this time. My hair gets SO tangled! Probably because this time my hair is lightened and colored with fashion colors. But, when did the hair loss start to ease up for you? I feel like im overeating. I feel like I could have lost a lot more weight by now. If it's not overeating then it's high calorie foods. For example, I can eat almost a who bagel with a serving of cream cheese and a 1/2 to a cup of cherries for breakfast. A lot of the times I skip lunch because I eat whatever I have at breakfast at that time. Then if I have a snack yes I'll eat a junk food item like a serving of chips or a cheesestick and then at dinner I'd have the 3 ounce of chicken, with 1/2 cup veggies and spoonful (the ones you cook with) of rice. Of course I'd have regular BBQ sauce or chic fil a sauce (a serving) and a serving of butter on my rice. Then awhile later before I get in the shower I'll have one or two of the following; a popsicle, another serving of chips, popcorn, yogurt, ice cream sandwich (yep I shouldn't be eating this. No, it hasn't made me sick and no I don't have it often), a cheesestick, etc. Or sometimes I'd eat some cereal if I know it doesn't make me feel sick. When I write it out, it doesn't look like I'm overeating, but when I track it, it comes out to be around 1200 calories. I shouldn't stress, but I need to make better choices and maybe make schedule for water intake and food intake. PLEASE, no rude/mean replies. Please be helpful. I want to succeed, and right now I feel like I'm not gonna succeed eventhough I'm not gaining, I'm still slowly losing. Thanks for your time! -
Surgeon suggested bypass instead of sleeve.
LindsayT replied to areyoukiddingme's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My choice on the bypass was solely made because I have GERD and I didn't want to possibly make it worse by getting the sleeve. I cannot imagine going through a revision surgery. A lot of people do, but that was definitely something I didn't want to experience, especially since the first 6 weeks after were very unfun. That said, it's your choice and either surgery will give you great weight loss results; just look at the possible cons of each surgery as well. As far as dumping with the bypass, it keeps me in check when choosing what to eat. I hope that works for my advantage later down the road. -
I Am Not Really Seeing The Weight Loss I Was Expecting
TRAVELRN replied to Hey Man's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I can only speak for myself. That being said I’m in the US and I had to go on a “diet” before my surgery to yes decrease the size of liver. I had to stop stepping on the scale as it will drive you batty. Focus on your meal plan. 3 weeks is short period of time and it’s not expected to drop off that fast. Weight loss is only one goal. Water is one of your goals, and meeting your calorie and protein numbers is another. Your comments are kind of unusual for someone 3 weeks out tho. Usually it’s about other things, nausea, not feeling hungry…etc. if you’re skipping eating that will effect your weight loss. If you follow your meal plan to the letter you will see the difference. You didn’t really mention what stage of your meal plan you are on now (liquids, soft, purée). Best of luck. -
Well, now it’s almost 3 months gone and I’ve lost 13 kg ( only) . Weird is that I get hungry over 2 hours and probably it takes down weight loss. I still don’t have problems with dumping or loosing hair which is good.
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Questions about DS, talking myself out of it
Arabesque replied to boat 4 fun's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Having surgery doesn’t mean you can’t manage your eating & drinking or it will be too hard to do. It’s more that it may be different to how you used to do things & you just need to establish new routines & habits. A lot of our old habits did us no favours anyway so they are no loss. Vitamins morning & night. Many people take a packed lunch to work. Pack your meals & snacks in a small ice bag & take it with you from vehicle to vehicle. Make sure you always have your fluids with you & sip, sip, sip. Pop everything you may need in a back pack or similar so it’s easy to grab & go. Be organised & allow for the unexpected. My family are on the land too & always take a large water bottle, a thermos of hot water & a packed lunch &/or snacks with them if they aren’t going to be near home. They haven’t had surgery but it’s their routine so it’s not impossible to do. Benefits of the surgery (loss of appetite, the staged return to eating, possible temporary changes to taste &/or smell, boosted metabolism) give you time to evaluate your old eating habits & try new more nutritious foods & cooking methods. Remember also the most restricted eating period after surgery is only usually about 6 weeks not forever. Therapy can also be very beneficial too. Helping you understand your relationship with food, what was behind your eating habits, cravings, etc. Doing the head work is essential. And sometimes realising something as serious as surgery is your only option to improve your health & life is the best motivation to make changes.
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