NotSoLittleMermaid

Thanks so much! I guess I spoke too soon. Today was a bad day. I think I have an ulcer.. but don't know. Pain, burning in the stomach/esphaguas all day. Weird because they've ruled out H Pylori and I've been on Cafate for ulcers. I hope to find an answer someday. Meeting with GI on 13th. Have a good one, thanks ALWAYS for your response and help, and congrats on your weightloss!

Thank you so much, Chow Chow.. I think my plication has stretched but I still have more restriction than before wls surgery. Gall bladder surgery went fine, the nausea and back/chest pain has gone, and I think most of my starving, gnawing hunger pains are gone. Inially, it made my acid reflux much worse, but they told me to give it a month. It seems to be getting better and better. I am glad that you posted it might even take longer..it is good to have hope! I still have little pains on right but I would take those over the starving pains or anything else I had before.

Hi Chow Chow, how long after your gallbladder removal did take for acid to stop? I had mine out 5 days ago and the acid is still awful. Same story, water doesnt help. Bread does temporily. Acid reducer didnt help either. so frustrated.. Really dont want to have to have a nissan wrap.

If you want to stay in the US, Dr.Watkins rules and I believe he has done more Plications than any other US doctor.. Even now, he personally will email or call me if I have a question. He is a VERY caring and detailed Doctor, who's skill, care and facilities are top notch. I was an out of town patient and he checked in on me over the weekend and gave me a cell number in case of emergencies. (No I do not work for him or get paid if you are wondering If you want plication, he is your guy. I never had surgery or was in the hospital before and had a great experience. Dr. Cottam in Utah has a lot of experience too, but they are harder to get a hold of. Dr. Watkins and his staff take the time to talk to you and address any questions or concerns you have. They do not push anyone into surgery. He even has a free You Tube class on weight loss tips regardless of whether someone has surgery. My experience and pictures are below in my esignature.

Thank you so much!

Hi just checking to see if anyone has had acid issues or their gallbladder removed before or after surgery. I have acid reflux with water, no food, etc. other than avoiding coffee, egg yolks and bacon, diet doesn't seem to help. My ultrasound showed gallstones. 2/3 of my doctors feel like getting my gallbladder removed will solve the acid issue. Tums, Pepcid and even 2 PPI Previcaid a day do not stop the burning, I've heard that if the acid pills don't help it is gallbladder. Even on an empty stomach, my stomach burns. Drinking water on an empty stomach burns. Eating seems to help. I can eat most fatty foods with no problems or pains (most of the time I eat low fat anyway.) Sometimes I have pain off on the right side, or in the back on the right hand side, but mostly it is acid burning from a few inches above my belly button, to burning throat. I explained this to the gall bladder surgeon, and he ordered an Upper GI, barium test. The test showed acid refluxing throughout exam. 2 of the doctors still think I'd be helped by getting my gallbladder out, but the 1 the gallbladder surgeon seems to now think I will need something more serious to address the acid. Would love your feedback on whether or not your acid went away after gallbladder removal.

Gastric Sleeve Plication. Stomach sewn together to make the same size bougie as a regular sleeve, but stomach not stapled and removed. I believe all WLS stretch in time. Thank you for "spa water" I will google it!

Hi I was taking 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with or followed with water I believe it was atleast 4 oz. I asked my Gastro Doctor about this, and she wasn't suprised it hurt. She said consuming anything with acid would feel worse. It got so bad for me, my back would hurt and I would get nausaous after drinking it. However, my friend swears buy it. I guess everyone is different. It is worth a try for most people.

Yes! Thank you for asking.. I will upload the GERD or acid reflux diet for anyone who is interested. I was very depressed about not having morning coffee or tea (I am not a morning person, so it was one thing I really looked forward to.) After a day of headaches, caffine withdrawl stopped. Since we are supposed to avoid cholocate, alcohol, fatty, oily, greasy foods, citrus, etc. acid and spicy things, this ruled out hot chocolate and spiced apple cider. However, I have found that I can drink SUISSE MOCHA (sugar free/decafinated) and it tastes really good.. my receipe is the following: 1/3 cup of lowfat hot milk, 1.5 tablespoons of sugar free Decafe Suisee Mocha and 1/2 teaspoon of sugar for around 70 calories. My doctor took me off of Prevacid, and I found it didn't do anything eitherway, diet is more important than the pills. I can take up to 2 Pepcid a day if I need to. Some times I do. But most of the time I don't. It seems like I can personally get away with a little bit of chocolate (like a chocolate chip cookie.) and maybe some very sweet or mild wine, but not the dark, strong reds. Some Sobe's or Chrystal Lite with acid (almost all have acid of some kind- but I hate Water and am trying to keep calories low) hurt for a few minutes and pass. All in all, giving up coffee and strong alcohol helped alot! Also found that I cannot egg full eggs, but egg whites alone are okay. It must be the fat in the yolk. Spicy food like pepperonis on a pizza can set it off, but not as bad as the coffee. Hopefully that helps anyone else out there reading!

Acid update: Citric Acid & Caffeine seems to be really bad. I thought it was the fake sweetners, but it appears to be anything with "acid" in it. That seems to be par for the course per my Gastro doctor.

Still having acid issues Going to Gastro Dr. next Tuesday. Tried Apple Cider Vinegar. Sometimes it takes the pain away, sometimes it makes it worse. Hope you all figure yours!

ACID UPDATE!! Last two days I've been experimenting. Here is what I found..(THANKS TO OTHER MEMBERS POSTS ON VERTICAL SLEEVE!)CRYSTAL LIGHT, MIO and anything with Aspertame or Splenda and TEA (even Herbal Tea with NO sweetner or sugar) gives me the HORRIABLE ACID or HUNGER! Now that I can't have soda and didn't want to drink calories like juice/lots of milk (I don't enjoy plain Water either) I would drink alot of these type of drinks throughout the day! I was HUNGRY or had BURNING PRETTY MUCH CONSTANTLY! It was weird, I could think about food and it seemed to trigger the acid! This happened before and after surgery. Last two days, I elminated those kinds of fake sweetened drinks. Instead I drank SoBe LifeWater (not as good tasteing as the others) but sweetened with Steveia, the all natural sweetner. My hunger is nearly erradicated! I am MUCH more satisfied. Today I went 6 hours after eatting sushi without getting hungry! I should have tried this before, because I can go hours without getting hungry sometimes by drinking my favorite coffee (sort of a Half Latte) before breakfast: Nescafe Instant made with 1/2 cup of 1% Lactaid Milk and either 1.5 tps of sugar or some vanilla creamer. It is a science to get it right. too much coffee, my stomach hurts, Not enough milk, my stomach hurts. The werid thing is, that my stomach hurt a few days ago with the acid, and drinking milk didn't cure it. But it was right after drinking the Mio. I think everyone with this issue should experiment with different things to find out what bothers them. Someone told me sugar, others coffee. One friend without WLS has recommended Apple Cider Vinegar. She was on 2 Prilosecs a day, and has cut them out completely. If she gets the burning, just take 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar in water or plain and that should stop the pain. I plan on trying this soon if and when I have my next bout with acid. My stomach was folded in and sewn to the same capacity as a regular Gastric Sleeve, this is called GPS or Gastric Plication Sleeve. Like all Sleeves, they are expected to stretch some. The major difference is the Ghrelin. I think more of it goes with regular sleeve (although my understanding is smaller amounts can still be produced in other parts of the body.) Some people with the GPS don't experience much hunger at all, and have the same experience as the regular sleeve. It is possible I stretched mine out from overeating due to acid. But I am still getting thinner and have it pretty darn good!

That is very interesting DoOver. I felt very disappointed for a long time that I could eat so much. But I am about 10 months out. I will be very happy if my sleeve stretches no more. I also find that with a normal stomach, some times you can shrink it a little. tntransplant06 Yes, I lived my WHOLE LIFE hungry. I swear, they should do some kind of public service announcement. Whenever I heard about Acid Reflux/Reflex, I always thought that meant heart burn or integestion. No one every told me it would feel like hunger! It wasn't until I came here that I learned about it. Still, I am happy to shrink my monster. Acid or no acid, having a smaller monster to feed has given me access to the road to weight loss. Before I felt it would be impossible, I'd have to work out 3 hours a day, and I did try to work out daily and diet. But I am so glad to have WLS surgery! purple tulip consult your doctor about your sitiuation to be sure, but many people will take it temporarily. Yes Prevacid is over the counter and can be purchased at Walmart, Walgreens, whever. I don't like being on medicine that can cause stomach polyps (although I already had them even before I took Prevacid or any anti acid/PPI -which is unusual) or possible bone loss or other side effects, but burning the esophagas and being obese isn't good either. All I know is, acid definately feels like hunger for me, and it will go away when I eat. Hence, one reason why I got fat. Easy to give into cravings and nice to take pain away. It has improved since I started the Prevacid.. I am going to Gastro Dr. on 18th, maybe she can prescribe something like Prevacid but stronger so I don't have any acid. That would be nice! Great posts! Thanks for your replies!