TruBlueSue

I was being a little silly, but you get my drift - all translations are just that - not all concepts, not all phraseologies that are in current use AT THE TIME THE TRANSLATION WAS DONE necessarily capture accurately the tenor or the idiomatic meanings of the text translated. That's why its SO hard to find good literary translators..mediocrity can come in all forms, and this is no exception... and yes, I'm jewish, and did study Arabic and Aramaic in college...got the hebrew from good old fashioned hebrew school with a couple of semesters in Israel to boot... If you're really interested in looking at biblical hebrew, you can call your nearest synagoge/temple/shul and ask if they offer a course...there's usually one being run all the time so that people who know modern hebrew can get into the source documents... Peace,Out all! Got to get my daughter Sarah down to bed..not to mention I have to be at work at 0600...<grin>

that was the sarcastic point along with the rest of my post! ITs good to be able to discuss things without being overly critical...and yes, I knew it came from the Bible...in hebrew it translates out to something along the lines of jewels before the unclean/unkosher, but the drift is the same...

T_O_M - keeping my gun, and voted against the incumbants...<grin> ready to be subversive from the inside and start the "revolution: :-) Man, I love reading your stuff....I wish I had the time to do what you do - but sometimes throwing pearls before swine is frustrating...

Me three!!

"As to the Song of Solomon, depending on the translation you read (I never liked any translation until I read the NIV, primarily because I hated Shakespearean English and didn't understand what I was reading -- and I think there are a lot of problems with a lot of translations not being true to the original text), it can be a very steamy book. I've kept my kids away from it until they're older because of the questions that might arise!" __________________ Gadgetlady, I guess my bible that's in hebrew and aramaic isn't valid since its not a european language translation. My bad.

My husband calls Pat Robertson, et.al., the "American Taliban"...the only reason I disagree is that "taliboon" in arabic means student...<grin>

I'm sitting at work with tears running down my face in empathy. I lost my 18 year old cat, Peanut recently - it was like losing my first child in a sense - she was with me in college, all over the world in the Army, and watched my daughter steal a piece of my heart from her...I kept her here too long but I couldn't bear the thought of my life without her. In the end she was starting to go into renal failure; she was frightened all the time; hid in the closet, and even ran from me cowering until I would say her name...I am sure she was losing her eyesight and her quality of life... I hope she forgives me. And I know your furbaby is happier and well, too. Sue

I can recommend Lite'nFree and Stephanie and Dr. de la Garza as well - terrific experience, and I went alone!!

Saw the Penn State game Paladin - looked like JoPa was having a heart attack! And, I hate to disagree, but we'll see whose got what on 18 Nov... Proud UM graduate BA'96, MA'97

How does cutting the budget NOT mean a cut in benefits? What did they do - fire a bunch of bureaucrats and add their salaries to the total outlay for medical care? I don't think so - and that's why I am not voting for Perry...and the rest of the corrupt bureaucrats voting for payraises for themselves while leaving our kids and elderly unprotected and without basic care.

You know what I wonder about? I wonder how Mr. Bush, alledgedly the prodoct of Groton, Yale and Harvard, managed to GRADUATE from any of these institutions? Don't give me legacy admissions and all that BS. I happen to have gone to a private, east-coast boarding school for high school and GRADUATED; went to a public "Ivy" university and have both a BA and an MA...AND I served with distinction in the US Armed forces, staying long enough to go to war AND get my honorable discharge. SO knowing all of this about me (and Mr. Bush) I wonder: How did he graduate from all of these institutions and STILL be unable to speak a gramatically correct, clear, concise sentance in (his native language) ENGLISH? At least when I went to school (a couple of decades AFTER Mr. Bush) I had to prove that I could use the language and communicate effectively before I ever got NEAR to graduating...lol....

I was one of those that said I would cheat...however, since I'd like to believe that ALL the conditions mentioned in the poll are NEVER going to align in that way, I am still monogamous and cheat free...<grin> I don't think I would have a problem living with myself or my dh and dd. Its just not that big of a moral issue to me when there are larger ones out there that affect more than just me....

What an absurd, obnoxious question - as if human beings marrying out of their SPECIES is even valid to the discussion.:faint:

One other thing - those that are preaching about family values keep saying that the family is the basic building block of society. If that is indeed the case, then why try to keep people out of that definition by legislating who can 'marry' (or whatever term you want to use) each other? I would think that the family values folks would be jumping up and down with glee at the thought of people wanting to become part of that most basic building block...? Or am I just obtuse with wondering why its such a big deal when there are so many other things with more pertinent, immediate impacts to/on me and my family, to be worried about this election season?

TOM, I am constantly amazed (and amused) at your adroit responses... My Bible isn't the same as yours...and, as a Jew, I don't see ten commandments or laws or rules - I see ten SUBJECT areas...and for me, there are 613 commandments...248 positives and 365 negatives...:speechles We can create our own hell here on earth just by the way we treat each other...so let's resolve to make kindness one of our commandments...

You always have such great things to say. I am back on the straight and narrow. Family went back to the UK; there's no more Cadbury's Crunchie bars for me to get my hands on, and I'm cooking again... Now I've got to get myself off my butt when I get home from work and get in some exercise. Thanks guys...

Somebody give me a clue - I'm doing it to myself again! You know how you go on a diet, do okay for awhile, then just start eating mindlessly? Here I am, doing it with the band!! I've been logging my food religiously - the past week or so I[ve eaten all kinds of sweets - bad for you worthless food - and its gone down easier than the food I should eat.. just when people are starting to notice that I'm making this effort and making progress - even the toxic ones like my mom who would never say anything good without a dig...lol...you guys know what I mean...so what gives? I need some of your expertise - I recognise I'm doing it but what can I do to stay focused without beating myself up to the point where I feel like I don't deserve to succeed?? :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:

All of you inspire me. I had family come in from overseas the last ten days; nobody but my husbnd knows about my band, so I couldn't very well say no thanks to going out to dinner with them, etc., and couldn't turn down a gift of my absolute favorite candy (that I can't get in the US) without looking (to them) like I was terminally (or mentally LOL) ill. So, to get it over with, I ate all of it over two days, and tried to get on with eating right, but wasn't too successful... So today, I weighed myself - and have lost the weight I gained over the last two weeks plus a little more! Oh, the relief of realising that if I work with the band that the band will work for me... Thanks for being a place where I can vent and whine and generally do all those things I used to stuff inside when I'd stuff myself!!

I used him, too , and went alone...

I was banded by Dr. de la Garza as well...

You guys are great...I know what it is - my aunt and uncle from the Uk are in visiting my mom...food - dinner - etc., - an excuse to socialize with them plus meals is doing me in - my aunt brought me some chocolate that I can't get here in the US and of course I had to eat it all at once - over a couple ofdays instead of a couple of months...lol...I am just goign to have to watch it more...plus, I had a little unfill of .4 ccs becasue I was too tight, and the ability to eat a little more didn't help either....just got to put my mind to the fact that this tool is meant as just that - I still have to eat healthily and make good choices...

Somebody give me a clue - I'm doing it to myself again! You know how you go on a diet, do okay for awhile, then just start eating mindlessly? Here I am, doing it with the band!! I've been logging my food religiously - the past week or so I[ve eaten all kinds of sweets - bad for you worthless food - and its gone down easier than the food I should eat.. just when people are starting to notice that I'm making this effort and making progress - even the toxic ones like my mom who would never say anything good without a dig...lol...you guys know what I mean...so what gives? I need some of your expertise - I recognise I'm doing it but what can I do to stay focused without beating myself up to the point where I feel like I don't deserve to succeed?? I've gained 2.5 pounds this week! I'm so bummed all I want to do is crawl into bed and cry.

I had no idea the list was so extensive... I hate people who talk about sending others (read: me - Iraq 2003-2004) to war but haven't got the nuts to serve themselves ever in any capacity...as long as its politics by other means by others' kids then it must be okay... Sue SSG US ARMY 1996-2005 seved in Bosnia, Kuwait, Iraq, Egypt... toured every crappy place in the world courtesy of Uncle Sugar

Krista - you have no idea - it is totally better and I still lost another half pound...now I just need to get into exercising...wanna join me?!

I would say time for a fill! I got my first fill the first day of my 6th week out from surgery,,,before that, I could eat anything, just in smaller amounts as my swelling went down...