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They say kids cost a lot of money to raise, pattygreen. And 14 kids are going to cost a lot more than one: housing 14 children, cooking for 14, keeping 'em clean becomes expensive and an exercise in logistics. There are diapers and cribs when they are infants and beds and bed linens when they are a little older. When they are toddlers you have to keep an eye on them lest they be getting into accidents. Daycare centres have regulations as to the limit of children per childcare attendent and I am sure that one mother per 14 babies is breaking this limit in just about any state, and with good reason! And the sad truth is that preemies have a greater rate of developmental growth defects. In some cases, these children never catch up to your normal child. They will always be high maintenance children. I can easily understand Suleiman's mother's annoyance with her behaviour and that of the other folks who have posted on this thread for I feel it, too! It seems to me to be crazed, selfish, and thoughtless of others (including those kids of hers).

It sounds like yer mum is toxic, a selfish woman who just refuses or is simply unable to "get" it and that you need to emotionally divorce her. I would suggest therapy, either that or a poison that doesn't leave you on the hook for murder - even though this may be considered justifiable.

Um, yep, my blonde...and now over morphined-mind(less). I forgot about that aspect of our Whacky Jacky. Thanks for reminding me, eh.

It seems like this case highlights the need for some regulation of the fertility industry. I really feel for Suleiman's mother; from all reports she sounds like she is at the end of her tether thanks to her whacko daughter. Speaking of which, have I got a match made in hell for her - howzabout octopussy and whacko Jacko????

She's an idiot, a self-deluded idiot.

Sounds like he is in denial.

I must say that I agree with you. I have never regretted not having had children, nor having had the one abortion. I have also received some flack about not having kids. My mother was disappointed by the choice I had made and the guys with whom I worked at my job building aircraft felt that my decision was pretty weird for a "straight" chick. All straight chicks are supposed to want kids, you see. But the issue of a desire to have kids has little to do with sexual orientation, I have found. I have met many lesbians and gay men who would love to be parents. I find the noise, mess and chaos that small children import into one's life to be utterly horrifying and I find that they themselves are very boring. They don't share any of my hobbies, you see, which are lying around in bed, reading, shopping, discussing the economy, religion or the effects of one's genetic inheritance. They prefer the Care Bears and I prefer the I-dpn't-Care-Bears, and both irony and sarcasm are lost on them. I do like their art work, however, but fortunately, I have found that many proud parents are happy to share their children's art works with an admiring adult. As for Carrie, I can only imagine the pressure that you go through.... Fortunately for me that ship has long since sailed due to an early on-set menopause.

So, it sounds like Pattygreen's God f88ked up when he made ya, eh? You have Green's condolences. (My doc told me that I had a small pelvis and that childbirth would have been difficult for me - not that I put her words to the test. Thank God they had legalized abortions in France which is where I had mine.)

But, Pattygreen, the truth is I don't like children, I positively hate babies, I have a narrow pelvis (my doctor told me so), and I find pregnancy's effects on the body to be terrifying. I do like sex, however. This would mean that married sex would be not one of God's options to me for, if my birth control method screwed up again,....I would be hunting down an abortionist. Your God doesn't have all the answers, I see.

I bet her parents, the ones that she has dissed, are on the hook for them.

Kimmel's comment was cruel but funny. Thanks for posting this clip.

If she takes one penny of the taxpayers' money to raise those brats of hers, then I think that the taxpayers should engage in a class action lawsuit against the doctors who were responsible.

Yep, that lo-rent-Angelina is completely out to lunch on planet 9. Those docs she has been hanging out with should have been bringing out their butterfly nets instead of the implant-a-fertilized egg apparatus, eh. Silly them, they deserve a smack.

The f-word is my favourite word.

Ha ha ha. I remember my dad announcing at the dining room table that if men had to have children the human race would have died out eons ago. My mum and I were not amused!

It makes sense to me as a woman that there would be a double standard. Reproduction is such an unbalanced bit of business. The male's contribution is a spasm of pleasure and then he is out of there. The female's contribution, on the other hand, is enduring the pregnancy itself, the steadily deforming body, morning nausea, weight gain, the expense of needing to eat more nutrients in order to feed the growing foetus as well as her own body, the expense of buying garments which will accomodate her new body, and of course the medical expenses. These costs do not end here, much later in life, she may suffer from a prolapsed uterus, incontinence - why, the poor woman may dread sneezing - all because of that pregnancy. There is the considerable pain of childbirth. In earlier eras, before the current advances in medicine, childbearing itself was a risky business. My brother was told in his first year of med school that historically more women died in childbirth or of its complications than men in war. One of the major birthing bed killers was puerperal fever. Then antibiotics were discovered and that put paid to childbed fever. Fortunately this was a killer bacterium and thus vulnerable to death by antibiotics. Because pregnancy leaves women so very much wide-open and vulnerable to a whole bunch of nasty consequences, I believe that when it comes to the women's right to choose, it really is that; women get to call the shots and if she is anxious to have a baby or feels that killing the foetus sits badly with her particular moral compass then the man should have no say in this matter. I chose to have an abortion even though the man involved wanted to have the baby and wanted to settle down with me. I simply do not like children and was creeped out big time by pregnancy and its effects on the body both long term and short term. You may call this a phobia, if you like. I also think that if a man wishes to avoid the consequences of having a child to support he would be wise to wear a welly on his willy whenever he enters.........! That is called taking care of business!

As someone who runs an X-rated blog, I must say I love the card. Thanks for posting it, eh.

Wow, talk about yer Angelina Jolie clone. I suspect she did this because she has a crush on Angelina Jolie, the great white baby goddess.... Her lips could suck the chrome off a trailor hitch, as my mate would say. lol Her comments indicate that she lives in la-la land and that she has no real comprehension of just how difficult and challenging raising kiddies can be; you need bucks to be able do this. And she is planning on going to back to school in order to get her master's degree. This is going to be very time consuming and difficult. My niece is a single mum of one kid with a special learning need (dyslexia) and was going to university. She had a very difficult time getting through. I had to help her write her papers. (I am not maternal and so I don't do children, eh. lol) Her father helped her out financially. She seems to think that her love will conquer all. She also seems to think that folks are against her because she is a single mum, and not because she already has 6 other brats to raise and not much cash with which to do it. Ugh! She is just the sort of dimwit that Green longs to give a smack behind the ears to.

LMFAO! That is hilarious!!!

I must confess that when I had my abortion I wasn't tossed up about missing out on an income tax deduction.

I don't mind answering and I am glad that you have asked. Researchers have discovered a flaw in the DNA that indicates that you will likely get breast cancer. It is important to understand that this flaw does not account for all breast cancers. Apparently cancer is a very large group of diseases; there is over a 100 types of cancer! If you trust your doc, you should talk to your doctor about this and see what he or she advises. The genetic test may or may not be applicable to you. It is important that you find this out. My cancer was cancer of the larynx and my kid brother's was bowel cancer. He died of this when he was 49. His death was likely preventable but he hated doctors and hadn't been to see one in over 10 years. He finally landed up in hospital when the pain was completely insupportable. He died not too long afterwards. As for me, my diagnosis was slowed slightly by the band. I thought that I had a slippage or acid reflux - something that can be triggered by a tight band. It was my band doc who figured it out, though, and told me to see an Ears, Nose and Throat guy ASAP. The cancer was difficult. The treatments - chemo and radiation - are no picnic but I was well looked after and I found the business to be very interesting. Weird, eh? I kept a blog and I sure did lose a lot of weight. At one point I was down to 108! I haven't weighed that since I was 9. I looked like an insect lady. I do think that you should, as you are concerned, talk with a reliable doc about prevention and the genetics of it all.

Thanks, we don't get this up here in Canada.

Who are Jon and Kate?

I once went to a giant charity sale and bought myself a pair of gorgeous Armani trousers for 10 bucks. They didn't fit, too small, and I used to joke that I was going to hang on to them, that they would fit me after I got cancer. Well, sure enough, they did. (One of my current wisecracks is that cancer is very slimming....) My friends have been used to putting up with my tasteless, black sense of humour and so I have been able to get away with making cancer jokes among others for years now. Even before I was aware that my kid brother (who died) and I were prone to it genetically, I liked making jokes. I think that being able to make jokes about dark subjects is very important to those of us with bleak senses of humour. It helps us come to terms with our possible fates. You are right, Gloucester, being dealt the fat gene and the prone to cancer gene is a double bummer. And you should be permitted to make as many wisecracks as you want to. Tell them that Green said so. You should also get regular check ups. That is what I tell the other brother to do.

Hey, cool, you can have your cake and eat it, too!