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Those who hold the views of the teabaggers on this forum and who claim that their views are held by the majority of Americans (because so many watch fox news) are WRONG. The statement that because a lot of people watch Fake Noise, they must believe all that is said is wrong simply because there are people like me who watch it sometime just to see how the other side is demonizing the progress that is being made and the level of hatred they have for Obama. I don't tune in to become a minion and fall in line. I do it because you always have to watch the enemy. As stated earlier, they present some facts, but they distort them with no thought to consequences. Besides they call themselves an entertainment company. They do it to entertain. Their saying not mine. There are Mcveigh's out there now more than ever. From the informed to the insane, they can come out of nowhere and hurt some people real bad because they don't like the government. Not saying that element will come from the baggers, but that might seem the best guess of the direction it might come from with all the misinformation.

Hey all, People who made under 250k got a tax break. Could have chose between 25 different ones as far as I can read. When did the government raise the taxes on us? They didn't, but the baggers will protest that because their messia, retard Palin said so. If the current polls say that the baggers are made up of wealthy educated white guys, does that mean that the elderly people who attend rally's don't need our socialist programs like SS, medicare or healthcare that is affordable? I say lets cut all those people off those programs like that for people who say they don't need socialized programs. Lets see how far we get by eliminating those things baggers hate in their lives and applying the money to the deficit. But keep in mind, when you ask one of them what should we cut out of the deficit, none of them have a clue. Didn't Hannity hater get yanked from a rally in cin city? Wasn't he the one that called people anti-american when they critisized Bush 2? The clearest case of ethics violation by a moron on tv besides lettermans fiasco. Yet here is a man who calls Obama a terrorist nightly and un-american. Hypocrite personified. Yet yahoos watch his crap nightly, religiously. Didn't Beck the beserk say that if anyone believed what he said on his program without fact checking was an idiot? Could not have said it better myself and yet..his word is gospel to the likes of PG. Same age as Palin but smarter.

thanks for the update.

Please show some proof on insurance from this company that cost him 600,000 a year for 25 people. Is this some kind of elderly company, is this handicap people, is this complete and full coverage, what?

Just a question. Do the teabaggers know that their movement is based on the opposite of their tax claim? Boston Tea party came about because of tax cuts. The richest merchant who sold tea got a tax cut and all the small merchants who sold tea didn't so the small merchants threw their tea bags into the water, creating the Boston Tea party. Isn't the teabaggers claim that the governmet is raising their taxes? This just seems ironic to me. Big business gets ahead again..........

Is it true that when they wanted to start a union in that mine, the owner threatened people so they wouldn't do it? Why exactly was this mine not unionized?

Glenn Beck: "I could give a flying crap about the political process. ... We're an entertainment company." Even Beck knows he has the ignoramous in the country by their unhinged jaws. WOW!! 32 mill a year will make Beck say anything.

PG, No retort to my post? I love it. Like giving a kid a pill.

Another person hypnotized by the cultural manipulators, rethuglicans. Did we have this much debate about spending before Obama came along? I am going to make a prediction. Palin half deck shy, Newt master manipulator of the ignorant, Mitt spin doctor extraordinare especially about leadership in Mass healthcare, Pawlenty the most unforgettable politician ever, will all, if they decide to run, cut each others throats in a run for the white house gates. Palin will emerge as the real dumb one like the character on the boat in Splash with Tom Hanks. Katie Courics interviews will be on an endless loop, billed as "Retards Fantastic" highlights. Mass healthcare will hang around Mitts neck like a skin rash. People will forget who the hell Pawlenty is and Newt will double down on his brand of hypnosis for the slow and dangerous then low and behold ....the biggest loss in rethuglican history again. Let anyone of them run and we can declare a solid victory. I hope that Bachman throws her hat in the ring. If she has 1/4 the brain she will stay away from the real people with her apocolyptic brand of Beck communication and continue to deal with what she knows best..rilling up the fear and garbage talking points. She more than anyone will never be anything other than a two block two street hustler. Know your role, I say.

Fake Noise definitely has the ignorant masses. Every person I know watches everything. The more news you watch the better the bulls..t meter works. See the difference?

The sum of Fake Noise watchers and sum total of their ratings: Republicans + the coo coo for coco puff audience who believe everything they hear + observers of the death spiral of imagined news(like me) + uncritical thinking skilled = Faux News ratings.

Selective amnesia. They do this well.

PG wrote, tdslf1, If you combine all the other networks, except fox news, they don't add up to the viewers they get. People love train wrecks,(Palin), comedy(Beck and Bill O the clown) and goof balls(Hannity and Bachman) on tv. What can I say more about it? Obviously people watch what they agree with. When you don't know the magician is lying its a good gag. That is why I watch, cause I do know they're lying and they are funny. More importantly, if the public is too ignorant to check facts no matter how outragous, (becks crap) what can I say? This lousy public school system doesn't teach people hardly any critical thinking skills. Also you should never agree with the wacko's if you don't check their work. The above is a sad statement from someone who says they read and check facts. When I watch MSNBC, I can't take their commentators for more than 5 minutes before I am pushing my remote. The truth hurts..What can I say? The majority of Americans watch FOX. It is pretty amazing how much intelligence you grant to yourself. I don't think I'm smarter than Beck followers, I know I am. Despite me having 4 college degrees. You feel that you are superior intellectually to more than half of the population in this country because you don't watch Fox news and they do? I do watch Faux Noise just to see how dangerous this world is becoming and how far the loons have taken 20% of the population and veered off course. Difference is, I don't believe everything I hear and make Noise the staple of my news diet. I actually read on top of listening to them. Even my 8 year old thinks Beck is funny. Wasn't that idiot Hannity's endorsement of Bachman and Palin for a presidential run hilarious? The people in the country you live are pretty stupid. huh? Not pretty stupid, astoundingly stupid. Especially if they think of supporting idiots like Palin or terrorist look alike Bachman.

Fake Noise has an agenda. I also never was a big cable network watcher until this election. I also never understood the bias in reporting until I started watching the news outside of main stream. What people don't get is that all cable shows like that are opinion pieces. Some give the news, great. But people love entertainment and that is why they tune into these shows. Take for example Bill O the clown. The other day he said that the teabaggers were made up of 40+ percent rethugs and 40+ independants and 8+percent of democrats. Therefore he concluded that over 50+ percent were liberal and that more liberals were in the tea party movement. Most people, who have no critical thinking skills would take that and run with what Bill O presented. But the fact of the matter is follow up data (which makes the percentages clearly understood) never make it on bill O's show. Now what the audience didn't hear was that out of the 40+percent of self claimed independants 90+ percent of those people were strongly leaned towards republicans or used to be republican. SO for him to conclude what he did and not express the follow up information was misleading and that is how these yahoos on tv decieve the ignorant masses who don't do their homework and fact check themselves. Fox Noise is good at this presenting half truths. So is our own PG, who doesn't get that they are half truths because she just sees it and it must be true. Just like the half truth statement posted about Pelosi. Difference here is, Bill O knows he is presenting half truths and deliberately misleading. I blame yahoos like him for the half truths we keep reading on here. Him and Fake Noise. Many humans are lazy and believe everything they hear because people who claim they are experts say it or write it. The critical question that needs to be asked is "What do they have to gain by presenting this information?" Nobody in their right mind belives the garbage Beck speaks about. They have tapped into that ignorant mass market.

Bristol Palin is a puppet and so is her PR firm. What idiot pays for the services from an 18 years olds PR firm? But those in the know know the business. Her firm is a drainage pipe by which political money gets funnelled to the family. That is what political hacks do. Set up firms and non profit agencies to funnel funds under the table. Legitimate to the firm but paid out the back door to the Palin family. She is immaterial except for this.

As I sated before, PG loves to post HALF truths trying to make them fly as truth. And et again I say please back up facts with something that adds to the conversation instead of junk that has to be fact checked every time. Waste of everybodies time when you don't do that.

I personally think many are 2 cards shy from terrorist. When you cross in to action pass carrying signs and peaceful protest, you have crossed the line. As I stated in an earlier post, when you use religion as your jump off point and anyone who does not feel as strigently as you do about something is a heathen, there is a problem. Religion turns people like this into dangerous folks. Did anyone see the militia is having a tea party? Tea party people got a serious problem when they get attached to these yahoos. Lets hope they keep this up, tea party renegades are gonna turn off the whole middle voters by November. I'm hoping, they split the vote Reform Party of Ross Perot anyone..........

Kartman, I am with you on this one. Turns my stomach when I here religious rhetoric skewed. I have my own place with God and it ain't nowhere near that. Like I said before, I feel sorry for the lot cause its a limited mindset that is dangerous.

PG, What kinda people do you know? I for one don't know any one person who collects unemployment that doesn't need it. Or any of the other services that they get for free. Sad case when you see ten bad apples and label millions unfit to get free services.

PG, What I said just went right over your head. How can you have an abortion if there is no blood in the lining of the uterus? You can't. Rare cases, maybe early when you first get the shot and the complete effects have not kicked in as in the 1st 3 months but as stated, rarely. Don't put that garbage out there. People like you make kids scared, as I stated before, to tell their parents about, or talk about birth control. That is sad. Believe what you want. You never listen to people anyway. Good luck with that theory.

PG, Do you even think about the stuff you may hear and read and decifer it, critically think about it? No, because how is it that you think that to have a depo shot would mean the killing of a child? Depo stops the eggs from being released thus no way you could get pregnant every 3 months to have an abortion as you put it. After 2 shots, many women don't even have blood lining the uterus because it stops the production of blood along the uterus as a side effect. A good side effect for a lot of women. Many women who get the shot don't have periods. The uterus wall which is where the baby would have to stick to, is not available to produce a fetus and sustain life. Thus your statement of killing babies is your fantasy. Sorry. How do I know this? I have 4 girls who all take the depo and none of them have a period. You can't make babies without the blood lining. Jeez. Your data is wrong. Please read other things about the subject because I hate to see this type of ignorance and misinformation. Because as you set up these half truths and people keep having to knock them down, it would be nice if they were the complete truth that you post and maybe we could all learn something.

Bottom line PG, People would starve and die under your proposed process. Rely on charity to help the poor? You have been saying time and time again that people would find out how to scam for free things. People like you would take that attitude towards the charity and not give. Not saying you never did, but you like many would get tired of doing it without help. Bottom line some people are selfish to others when it is their choice, like giving money or food right into the hand of a poor person instead of an agency. If poor people came to your door everyday to ask for food and clothing, you would get tired of it and look for other sources they could go to or start your own services, WITH the help of the government and not out of your pocket. The government knows this so they have implemented programs for these people. Just because they are wasteful, and I didn't say that you did, don't mean people don't need them, nor need to have them in place when people do need them.

PG, Please don't make up falsehoods about depo. You can't be pregnant and go and get contraception like this. Everyone knows they give you a pregnancy test first to determine if you are pregnant. Depo stops the release of any eggs. It doesn't kill eggs.

Exactly who do you consider poor is the question? If you consider just the women who have children and don't have jobs, poor, then yes, we know they get MEDICAID. But what about the people who don't get medicaid? And still don't have a job like men over 19. None of these people in Illinois get MEDICAID. Only women. That is a large population who do not get MEDICAID but are poor. Also women who do not have children but make too much to qualify for MEDICAID, but too little for affording insurance don't get MEDICAID? Or the people who have a job but don't get benefits from that job. These are the poor that concern us. I had a girlfriend who could not get insurance from MEDICAID nor her job. SHe had to pay 1k a month plus just for insurance. WHat about these people? There is more to being poor than just not having a job. Or having a job whatever the case may be. There are millions and I'll bet they are men who can't get insurance through their jobs nor MEDICAID without a job that need this help and for you to say that they don't fall into this category of not needing help and don't need this bill is just wrong. We haven't even gotten to the people who get denied coverage or have to pay a rate higher than my girlfriend does each month for little or no coverage. Sarah Palin's age but smarter.

I told you PG reminds me of being one card shy of the jihadist. The views are so extreme its scary. Never seen all this craziness till they saw a black man become president. Name one time in the Bush reign were they went off the rails like this with garbage in the news darn near ever week about overthrowing the government or threatening the people they put into office or people wanting the government to rule religiously and such or wanting to attack a funeral of police. Difference is some people recognize and respect the laws and jihadist don't. Now the so called retard Palin people are starting to disrespect the laws which to me means they are not too far from going over that line. Look at the response a lot of religious people had about Tiller's killer. "Tiller killed people thus he deserved it." Crazy People need to learn to decifer the difference between truth and half truths in the media. People watch Fake News because its entertainment. Only the fringe believes the garbage they put out completely. No way a News organization should be known for lying like they are. Only the ignorant watches any news and believes everything they hear.