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Like I said im not sure how much MORE PROOF you want than that . But anyone could find a problem w/ any info someone gave them if you did not agree w/ it . So keep on beating that horse tell its dead and gone .. It wont matter what is said , it wont be satisfying !! Maybe a bigger stick !!!! Mindy

Im TRYING To tell you why just POSSIBLY ( I am not speaking for WASA ) But WHY Possibly someone CANT tell you where they got the info . I dont think it would matter anyway . talk about

?? I dont see how its not relevant ? And no its not out there. People who work certain places cant make it known that they tell certain things , they can lose their jobs . But people do tell certain things because if people are doing things that are dangerous to peoples lives they tell so others do not go places . THAT IS RELEVANT !!!

I got some information today about a doctor that I could NEVER tell anyone where i got it from . the person would lose their job !!! did it EVER Cross your mind that people get info from people about doctors that could jeopardize their jobs therefore someone is not going to go Publish it or Sing it from message boards ? Yet people relay info to others to make sure others get SAFE Surgeries ?? MAYBE just MAYBE that would be the case ? But would that be sufficient ? Probably not ! !!!

thanks Cosmo . Sorry If i flipped a bit . That just Hit the WRONG Nerve !!! :smile:

I took offense to your post ... TO ME you were saying " he is a rich man , why in the HELL would he hit on FAT WOMAN ? Or that woman must not have been FAT ENOUGH to get a lap band or he would not have hit on her ? You said " Rodriguez is a rich man in Mexico. If he made a move on this gal, I'd conclude that she dosen't need to loose weight. Isn't that why we get lapbands, so we can be thin and sexxie ? " WHAT else does that mean ? If a Doctor hit on her she did NOT need to lose weight cause she was NOT FAT ? GIVE ME A FLIPPING BREAK !!! was I The ONLY One who took this that way ? Is it bad if a doctor hit on a patient YES. Does it make it "OK" the comments that were just made ? NO ... A doctor is a professional . He should keep it that way . PERIOD !! :smile: Mindy

THAT does not EVEN JUSTIFY A comment. !!!!

I Do not think he would tell his PATIENTS that NO . That's all i will say about that ! What is his reason for removing A LOT of his bands ? How many other docs do you know had to remove A LOT OF their bands ? I just find it hard to see that you dont find anything suspicious about that ? If you read that about ANY OTHER Doc but yours would you not find that fishy ? Mindy

NO NO doc has 100% success rate , it does not exist , complications arise for a # of reason . Any doc that tells you they have 0 complications is LYING! And its not "Success" its a complication rate. Band, bypass ect in my opinion is going to be successful from 2 things 50% has to do w/ your surgeon and the other 50% has to do w/ you . If you start off having a good surgeon who know's what they are doing , places the band correctly then your starting off 50% in the good , the other 50% is up to you to follow the rules and do what you need to do to be successful . Your right research that is accurate , and unbiased is hard to get. Espically when people (No one specific ) can not accept that docs are human and their own docs might make a mistake or Have a complication from a surgery . Its something that I knwo from working in the medical field. Its something I will admit, acknowledge if i am aware of it from my doc! it happens. But the ones that Stand their ground and dig their heals in that swear their doc does nothing wrong are the ones that make research hard on people. Mindy

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I have been on this thread for quite some time . If you look back . :rolleyes2: People can certainly not recall things the same way . But if Dr Rods stats are that bad do you REALLY think he's doing to tell you that ? Mindy

If your still PBing everything you eat you need to go back ASAP . Your risking a slip ! good luck i hope you go back soon

OK IF HE Placed the bands himself WHY in the HELL would one doc remove Even 10 % of his own Bands ?? Do you NOT find that a LITTLE Suspect ? COME ON !!! Something is not right there. Secondly you keep saying things are "hearsay" , you MIGHT want to look up the definition of hearsay . Hear say is " Gossip" or something that someone does not have DIRECT knowledge of . If WASA was TOLD Something from that person THAT IS NOT HEARSAY ! That is direct knowledge of a conversation . you cant say something is hearsay just because YOU Did not hear it or you chose not to belive it. It does not work that way . And IF the other party says "Things did not go that way " STILL Does not make it hear say " Means a party in the conversation is LYING !! Which one do you think will lie ? the one that MIGHT look bad ? :rolleyes2: Just to clarify here is the definition of hearsay . I have no dog in this fight but People REALLY need to take a step back and realize who has something to gain in conversations when they are makign accusations. JUST because someone wants to make sure people get safe surgeriers people bash those people frankly im quite sick of it . Docs are not perfect , they are human , People need to realize the DIFFERENCE between bad ones and good ones , are the BAD ONES Lie about their mistakes !!! hear·say Audio Help /ˈhɪərˌseɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[heer-sey] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge: I pay no attention to hearsay. 2.an item of idle or unverified information or gossip; rumor: a malicious hearsay. –adjective 3.of, pertaining to, or characterized by hearsay: hearsay knowledge; a hearsay report. [Origin: 1525–35; orig. in phrase by hear say, trans. of MF par ouïr dire] —Synonyms 1. talk, scuttlebutt, babble, tittle-tattle.

I think if you eat yogurt, cottage cheese ect A LOT that could be eating around the band. Because its "easy" it goes down easy . to me eating around the band is Liquid proteins , " easy " foods that slide down . Foods that do not require work , and that can mean yogurts , protein shakes, BUT I think it depends if your "Abusing" Them or not for lack of a better word. My doc allows me my protein shake in the am and that is IT . Except after fills. He would not want me drinking them 2, 3 times a day . I guess it all depends on how you look at it ? Interprut it ?

at 5 weeks post op you can NOT Eat "around the band " well honestly you should not be "Eating" things that you cna eat around the band anyway . If your still on Mushies or semi solid foods . YOu most likely do not have restriction so you do not have to or can you eat around the band. The first 6 weeks post op is about healing. NOW Once you have restriction things that are "soft, liquids , high in calories " Honestly things you KNOW You should not be eating are things that you can eat around the band with . If you have questions about what foods are solids, mushies ect you need to ask your doctor. Different docs have different opinions of that. For instance some docs consider ground beef " Mushies" my doc does not . So its best to ask your doc. Mindy

NO NO NO ... What I have said is and I have told you this as well... I dont count calories .. BUT if im not losing i will count for a short period to make sure im not getting too much to eat or too little. I do NOT Count DAILY !!! No need for it. But if you find yourself in a plateau or not losing the way you want , i think its good to see what your eating . Sometimes what we THINK is going in our mouth is good for us is NOT . And loging what we eat for a week helps see that. For instance smoothies at places like smoothie King ,,, ONE of those can have as many as 1500 calories. Do i count EVERYTHING that goes in my mouth every day , no . I have had to count calories twice since surgery and both times I found I was not losing due to not eating Enough . Congrats on the weight loss !!! I told ya it will come off woman !!!!! Mindy

I agree w/ everything Grace has said. I dont count calories . what is the point ? If your eating what your suppose to and not eating around the band the band pretty much does that for you is how i look at it . I dont exercise . I play Wii Fit w/ my kids and have a blast , I am more active with my kids and enjoy it . Diets, I dont see the point in dieiting ... Makes NO SENSE TO me now that we have the band. I dont get the people who get banded then say " I just joined WW's or Jenny Craig " WHY ? Like Grace said diets did not work before . Before restriction you have to have patients . You have to exercise some self control . Once the restriction gets here then its easier. the band is not a magic want that your going ot wave over your stomach and lose the weight. OR More so over your head. It will come in time BUT Sometimes you have to be patient . HTH Mindy

I believe there are Protein powders you can mix with fruit juices ? Also it does not have the MOST protein in it ,,, i am not sure if there is any dairy in the mix itself. you might try Carnation instant Breakfast mix. Anything "Whey" will have dairy in them . So careful with that. Check out "Celiac Forums" for Celiacs disease . They have to stay away from dairy . Just did a quick search and found these .. Protein from Rice, powder, Dairy Free, Vegetarian / Vegan, Hypo Allergenic, Plain - 1 lb. 5 oz. Go Dairy Free | beverages - smoothies & Mixes If you find a mix you can mix it with Lactose free milk could you not ? Can you drink that ? If you have a whole foods near you they should have tons of info or stuff. HTH mindy PS I just googled " Dairy Free Protein Mix" and came up w/ quite a bit Mindy

I think Jachuts Definition is pretty accurate. What your talking about to me is not eating around the band. Eating around the band essentially is being "lazy" Eating things you KNOW will go down easy , you KNOW yo0u should not be eating but are " Easy" for you to eat. Soft, usually higher calorie foods what ever it is that the band wont " Stop" you from eating . Also to me eating around the band can include Protein shakes, ( My doc considers this as well I believe ) drinking your calories basically . HTH Mindy

Carol did you get my email ? Mindy

YOU GO SISTER !!! My philosphy EXACTLY ... You just put it much better than I !!!! Can i copy that for future use ... ?? I"ll give ya credit LMAO Cause that is GOOD ! Mindy

ONe thing to ask is what is the docs post FILL Diet . What instructions does he have for each fill ? Some docs require liquids only 24 hours before a fill , some 6 hours before a fill. Some docs require liquids 24 hours AFTER a fill. So ask those questions . Here is a good section to look at Lap-Band Surgery Frequently Asked Questions - Lap Band Surgery and Lap Band Discussion Forum Also what is the post op diet . What is his fill "schedule " how far out do they schedule for fills and unfills ? Is someone on call in case of an emergency ? What happens if the doc is out of town ( Espieically if your doc is in a one practice office ) That's all i can think of right now But others im sure will chime in Mindy

Keep on going Irene you will do it your almost there. Seems like the "Milestones" Take FOREVER to get even when in actuality we are SO CLOSE . You will be there soon !! Mindy

ADD me to the list as of Friday im down 100 lbs in 10 months !! From a size 22/24 to a size 8 I just bought this weekend !! WHOO HOOOO Thanks Mindy

I hit the 100 lb mark on Friday ... I celebrated by buying a size 8 Short and M SLEEVELESS TOP !!! I am SO selfconscious in the top still but Its Texas and its almost 100 degrees already ! Before is at least 250 Now is 150 I have 25 more pds to goal !!