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Linda, glad your DH is doing alright. Yep, I get it when you said pain if you do and pain if you don't. Take care. Apples, cute jackets...really cute. And you have the advantage of being able to wear those there. There are advantages to living in "cold" country. Julie, good luck with your functions....sounds like they will be fun even if it is a lot of work. You make a good point about the pain being there whether working or not...I think people just don't want you to aggravate it more. Charlene, good luck with the dr. appointment tomorrow. Dieting is tough and you have been doing very well. Maybe a little shake up (no pun intended) will help. Phyl, how's the dog search going? I find the right dog will come to you if you just believe it will. Keep an open heart.
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Anny, thanks for the color change....much better!! Looks like you a Phyl have some location similarities...that's pretty cool. Charlene, I'm not brave enough to have my eyes zapped....good luck, I'm sure it will help a lot. My vision isn't terrible yet, I still don't wear glasses all of the time, but after being on the computer all day or reading books, I can't see very well. I have special computer reading glasses at work, but my eyes still get tired. Getting old isn't for wimps. Need to get ready for work...have an early day today. Later ladies, Eva
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Welcome back Apples....work? Did I miss a post? Did you finally break down and decide to work outside your businesses? Welcome all you new people. Anny, would you mind changing the color of your font...my eyes have a really hard time reading it...it's a little pale. Don't mean to offend you...but some of us have old eyes and it's really a strain to read the posts normally sometimes. You are certainly welcome here and jump right in...that's the best way. Peaches and Kurby, same to you guys....post away, questions, triumphs, issues, gripes, gratefulness....we take it all. My eyes are bugging me tonight....lots of computer time today. I have to meet a splicer in the field at 7am tomorrow, so it's going to be an early one for me in the morning. Great....the sister that moved here last year from Alaska, bought a house, then hasn't been able to find a job that suits her. So now she's in Florida helping a friend of hers take care of her 5 year old autistic daughter....supposedly for pay, but I don't think that is happening. She is putting her house up for sale and is packing all the stuff and putting it in the closets and storage rooms until the house sells, then she'll move it to Florida or put it in storage or something...who knows. She told the other sister that lives in Phoenix that she didn't get the emotional support she expected from us (me and the sister and brother in Phoenix). But the expectation was one of us would be spending the weekend with her every week...we all have lives and she needs to figure hers out. She's never lived alone, at least not for the past 30 years, so she's figured out she doesn't like it. She's going to have to figure out what she wants and what she has to do to get it. I can't do that for her. I love her but don't do well with dependent people. The Phoenix sister is down here helping her with stuff. She goes home tomorrow and Lindsey flies back to Florida on Thursday. So for the next 3 weeks, it's going to be hit and miss for me again. Saturday is another party that I'm cooking for, then Sunday will be a trip to Benson (need some camping supplies that are stored down there). Then next week I leave for Colorado on the 23rd. I'm driving with the dog so that should be an interesting trip. Okay, off to bed for me...have a great evening everyone. EVa
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Another Sunday gone! Charlene, a baby shower for 100 people (70 even) WOW, that's a lot. I can't even imagine fixing that much stuff and making it cute besides. Glad those ladies noticed how well you are doing. It sure helps to get some of that positive reinforcement. Jessica, sorry about your son having problems, hope it gets straightened out...must be hard on you and embarrassing for him. Hang in there girl...you are doing really well. Julie, glad to hear you had a couple of good days there. Hope all your "partying" doesn't back fire on you either. As I wrote to Charlene, I can't even imagine making 12 pans of deserts or prepping for 150 people. You'll have to give me lessons one day. I think I like doing things on a much smaller scale. Melissa, yep about that lesson thing...I do believe situations (people) keeping getting thrown in our way until we learn to deal with them. Unfortunately, choking them isn't the solution. Darn. Phyl, that is one BIG lap dog....my, I don't think you really had that in mind did you? Your hair color does show up and it looks nice. I fixed dinner for my sisters again. They are packing away and I'm doing my part by feeding them dinner. We had pulled pork (what I'm making for the party next weekend) semi-homemade BBQ sauce, olive slaw, beet salad, cucumber salad, and fresh corn...so we had "B's" and "C's" for dinner tonight. I put the pork in the freezer and will take it out next Friday and let it warm up then put it in the crock pot for the party on Saturday. This party is for one of the FNSC gang's 50th birthday. Her husband is throwing the party and says there will be 30 people there. It's probably going to be really hot....oh boy!! I worked for about 3-4 hours today and got a drawing pretty much done, so that will help the stress level next week at work. And that is about as exciting as it gets. Guess I'll go down load some more audio books. Have a great night! Eva
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Janet, good for you speaking up. It's really hard on kids being obese. I know I was one of them. Even now, when so many kids are, they still have it rough. Brooke has seen you change and can understand you know what you are talking about. Lori, glad you had a good visit with your Grandma and kids. It's so tough not to be with the ones you love, but you are fortunate to be able to "pop" over there and visit. It's a long and expensive ordeal for me to get to Colorado. For some reason, air-fare has always been pricey from Tucson to Colorado Springs or Denver, then it's the rental car and hotel rooms. It's a 14+ hour drive for me and I usually do that in 2 days...so it's time or money. Thanks for the compliments on the hair...I really like it and the color is a little wilder than I normally do, so I like that too. We just got back from a surprise BD party for a 30 year old. His wife had a little surprise party for him and it worked out great. Obviously it was a pretty young crowd, but they are great bunch of kids. I really enjoyed it. I'm working on shredding pork, so I guess I'll get back to it for a while. Hope everyone has a great night. Phyl, post a picture of your hair color! ee
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One more picture....me at Multnoma (sp?) Falls in Oregon.
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Pictures....the agave that is blooming by my window, the first two are when it was really blooming, the third one is what it's doing now...producing many baby agaves. My new hair cut. Not a great shot, but my hair is shorter.
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Glad to see someone updating this too. I'm still at a standstill and I'm not working at it either. I know I need to put more effort into my "diet" but I've never been good with that, so I'm grateful for the band because if I didn't have it, I'd be 10-20 pounds the wrong way.
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Kurby...it does take time to retrain your brain....some of us seem to never learn, but you can be aware of what's going on and use the tools made available. I still struggle with my food demons, but there are great days where everything works just fine. Laura, congrats on getting Nels through his FIRST graduation. Glad you checked in...I was getting worried about you and was going to call. Janet, you do get your point across and quite well by the way. Enjoying your visit with your kids? It's so true ....doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.....I have those illusions now and then. Joyce, I'm with you and Janet....I'll take the heat over the wind any day. Yesterday it was so windy we couldn't see the mountains....the mountains are close. Today it's breezy, nice, not awful windy and cooler. Amazingly cooler since it's only in the 80's right now (10:30am). Sounds like you have a very nice day planned. Enjoy your dinner. Melissa...my boss's boss sounds like your boss (does that make sense?). She is micro managing us from Phoenix and doing a very crappy job of it. It's the source of 75% of my stress at work. So sorry about the UTI...you on meds for that now? When your life calms down, your food and exercise will come back into line. If you stress about it, it just makes it worse (I know). Hang in there friend....life sucks sometimes, but we are here for you and there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm a firm believer in your type of boss doesn't last forever. Everyone is probably busy this weekend....here too, but I thought I'd try and catch up now because who knows how the rest of the weekend is going to go. So this is the weekend the one sister is packing up her house to put it on the market and then go to Florida. The other sister (the one from Phoenix) is down to help her and I'm being the gopher, chef, etc. I hired a friend from work's daughter who is unemployed to help my sister pack. The daughter has no transportation so we have to get her and take her back to the bus station. She lives about 45 minutes away and so her mom and I decided she can ride the bus between so neither of us have to drive so far to get her and drop her off. Complicated. I have to work on a drawing that needs to be done Tuesday and do my other weekend chores. I'm also cooking pork to make pulled pork for a party next weekend. When it's done, I'll freeze it 'till next week. I got my hair cut and colored yesterday. I had it cut a lot shorter and had it colored a much lighter color with highlights. It looks great. Tried to take pictures, but they don't look so good...you can't really tell what my hair looks like color wise. I may post them anyway. I'm the only one on line....weird. Anyway, guess I'll go work on those chores. EVa
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You guys are all amazing and have such a nice way of expressing yourselves. Some day I may actually learn how to do that. Seems after I read your posts, all I can say are bland and boring things. No, I'm not in crises....just impressed by you all. Another long day and had to do an "emergency" meet in the field to day a 1:30....it's hot at 1:30, so I'll go tomorrow morning early and do the official field notes. I also had a dental appointment...no big deal, just my normal cleaning and that went well. There's a new oriental market on the same side of town as the dentist, so I went there afterwards and bought some baby bok choy and oyster mushrooms to cook with my pork tenderloin. They were very good. I was looking for some specific things for some Moroccan food, but didn't find it. I'll have to check a couple of other places. So, I'm really burned out tonight and think I'll go to sleep early for a change. Hope everyone has a good night. Eva
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Sorry I've been gone again. Julie, so glad you had at least one pain free night...hope you have another tonight!! Apples, nice smile and shirt....I do like that style and it's very flattering on you. LauraK...as for the cougar...you do what ever makes you happy. I don't care for older men either, but there are a few out there that don't act old. Those guys are pretty hard to find. My DH is younger than me too, but only 1 year. Janet, great going on the exercise. Glad you didn't have the power outage at your house....it's way too hot. We had one that was a little over an hour on Saturday morning, so it wasn't too bad. Charlene, Congrats on 2 more pounds and it was brave of you to share. You are doing really well. Phyl, so you want a lap dog do you? The right puppy will find you, just wait and see. If you can hold off until winter again, you can go to Janet's and have her Angel give you lap treats. That is one sweet dog. Great, my guest room and bath have red and "gold" or tan towels and bedspread too. I'm getting a little tired of them and am thinking of changing to something else. I went with tropical blues and greens in my bedroom, so I'll have to come up with something else for this room. Funny about your DH hanging things up too high. Joyce, getting too tight is not fun, so your PA is probably a wise person. Talking to a nutritionist is probably a very good thing and maybe you can share with us afterwards. Linda, I'm going to Athens, OH in November. My brother will be celebrating his 50th wedding anniversary. It's something to celebrate! Your pictures were fun! So if I missed someone, sorry, I'm doing this from memory again. Sorry I've been missing again, but it's been busy with my sister here. She's finally decided to put the house us for sale and is just now starting to sort so we can pack her up this weekend. We are going to box almost everything and store it in her store rooms and leave the furniture. She'll fly back to FL and when the house sells, I'll probably have her stuff loaded up in a U-haul and drive it out to her. I'm in for Vegas in October too...sounds like fun! I have a few more chores to take care of...hope you all have a great night! Eva
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Jessica your picts are wonderful...you are looking great!. Your son is a cutie too. Kurby..welcome! I'm one of the banders that doesn't follow the rules too well and have completely slowed down on weight loss, but it does me a world of good to keep reading and posting so I don't slip back to my old ways. The band works GREAT! I don't work the band is my problem and I'm still dealing with emotional, stress eating. Janet, Great, Apples, Phyl, Julie and everyone else have insights and experiences that are very helpful. Joyce, I'm impressed with your resume. Yoga and biking...a woman after my own heart. Not that I do either of those very well now, but I do like yoga...I'm very stiff naturally. My DH would love for me to bike but I keep falling off and hurting myself so I haven't been on my bike for a while. Great, sorry to have missed your bandiversary. Congratulations, you continue to be an inspiration! I take it DH is home with you this weekend? How's the house arranging going? What kind of fence are you getting? Janet, your vacation sounds really nice. Much better than going to Ohio (what I have to do in November). Yep, I think I missed out on those girly girl genetics...there are some things I really like, but I'm missing the "motherly" instinct and the need to apply makeup daily. Phyl, sorry to hear about the shoulder....maybe you just slept on it wrong. Hope it gets better quickly. You'll be find with the unfill....pretend you just got banded and have to watch your eating for the next 3 weeks. I perused your FB photos...you are a very active and busy lady. I'm trying to make a sunshade curtain for the back door...guess I better get to it. HI to everyone I missed. Eva
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Julie, welcome back. Sorry you are still in pain. I think an end run sounds like the thing to do....there are things that can take care of it...even if it's surgery. Your doc isn't treating you too well. You can come see my doctor, he's very helpful. He told me he will start the proceedings any time I'm ready to get this disc thing worked on. I'm just putting it off until I think I can't stand it any more. (Maybe after I'm retired if the insurance stays the same). Glad you are back and we'll chat with you after you get some rest.
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You know Cheri, I think I have more male tendencies than the average female...I like yard work, pouring concrete, setting tile, hate housework, I'm terrible at sewing, etc. Maybe that's why I like the pen so much. So use the pen, leave it in your purse and when you lose it, oh well, at least you got some use out of it. (Or you can regift it at some future date). I'm not a big fan of regifting, but sometimes its appropriate. Well the sister made it in yesterday. The three of us went to dinner and we are just "on hold" until Lindsey makes up her mind on what she is going to do. Lindsey and I are going to Bisbee later today to pick up her quilts. She can't drive there herself because?????? I have started working out on my pilates machine again. I'm taking it slow as to not aggravate my back more, but I hoping it will help with the constant annoyance of my foot issues. I did talk to the doctor about it and he thinks the foot problem (nerve issue) is caused by the herniated disc. Summer is here, it was hot yesterday. I had to do some field work yesterday afternoon and boy did that kick my butt. I didn't have any problem drinking enough water yesterday. It's supposed to be 107 tomorrow which means even the swamp cooler won't work all that well. Hope everyone has a great day! Eva
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Cheri....sorry you aren't happy with your cross pen. I love them, they write nice. Got a set from my parents for graduation and I think I still might have it some where around. Glad they gave you something to show they appreciate you. Lori, yes, it sounds like you have a very nosy neighbor and sort of rude too. I would probably say something like that too...but not until I got to know the person, absolutely not on the first day. How's your daughter doing? You said both of your kids called, she must be feeling better. Julie went to Ohio to shingle son's house or was it a brother...can't remember. I hope you find your pants....but then again...it might be an excuse to go shopping...no, I bet you have some favorite pants in that box. Janet, ok August it is. Actually that should work well because I'm booked all the way June and into July also. Are you superstitious? How about planning the weekend of August 13 (Friday)? It's good for me because the cleaning lady will have been here on Thursday and I think it's pay day too. I know how you feel about "administering the estate". I do all of the work on my brother's and my place and I don't expect to get paid...it's what I need to do. Charlene, glad you are feeling better. It so hard when nothing actually works to easy the pain. How's your Mom doing? Your scale will move again...don't concentrate on it. Joyce, sounds like you are having a great day. I called my God-mother today...she lives in KC. I told her I will be through there in November, so we will actually get to meet then. The only thing that might stop it, is if I don't retire by then...I might have to fly to Ohio then. Does your DH work for Special Olympics? I might have missed something. Judy, when do you hear if you get the part you tried out for? Jodi, your description of Fire Island makes me want to go...sounded like a very nice place. Especially the beach and shopping. I love taking vacations like that. Dassi is a very lucky girl and she'll realize it when she gets older. You are doing a wonderful job of giving her what she needs now. You're doing very good with sticking to your plan. We had another webinar today with my surgeon. This one was on plastic surgery after weight loss. It was more inspiring than I thought it would be. He also stressed exercise and toning. Smart man...and his center was just awarded the "Center of Excellence" rating from the United States. It's the first one give internationally. Cool. Tomorrow my sister (the one that went to Florida) will be here and deciding what to do with her house and all. It should be a very interesting weekend. I'll try and stay in touch but I may be packing and moving her stuff. We'll see. Okay, I'm going to go read a book. Have a great night. Eva
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Lori...Happy Bandiversary!! You are one of my inspirations! So sorry you are feeling down....I can understand being in a new town without your family. Now, it's only 535 miles away and you can do that drive in a day...or you can fly. I bet you will be back and forth often. HUGS!! Apples, good luck tomorrow....hope it goes well and you have a great weekend at the lake. Laura...it's so hard to watch your parents suffer, be depressed, etc...and there isn't anything you can do about it but let them know how much you love them. I'm sure your Mom and Dad both know that. Your exercise sounds wonderful...wish I could have joined you for that walk. Cheri....I can't imagine not having air conditioning at work...it's HUMID where you live and it gets plenty hot...I would just melt. As hot as it gets in my desert, it is true what they say about it being a dry heat. Janet....we should get together sometime this summer...and do a nice resort (cheap rates) and go shopping....think about it. Phyl, sorry to hear about your son, I know you are worried. Hope he can get it together enough to take care of himself. Wow there is a lot going on with your back. Glad you got the pool PT perscription....sounds like a great way to help with the pain. Can't wait until my GF's pool is warm enough to go workout in. Charlene....I just friended you on FB....cool. I actually just did a bunch of people. I think it's too overwhelming sometimes for me....too much stuff going on. You have been doing so well with the weight loss....it's just slowing down a bit and it will start again, don't worry. You have been doing fabulously. LauraK...I'm going to post a picture of one of the agave's that is blooming right outside my south window. Since I know you like plants, thought you might like this. Joyce, my brother is in Ft Meyers....DH and I went to Sanibel Island for the day when we were in Florida in February. It's pretty nice. Hope you have a really good time. Actually my neice might be there in July...she usually goes and hangs out on the beach every July. Another fairly decent day at work. Didn't even work late or work through lunch today. You guys know I listen to audio books a lot...I down load them on my computer and sync them to my MP3 player...well I have had nothing but trouble with it since I got this computer. I thought it was MS Media player, but DH suggested it my be the CD player its self. So, of course being the geek he is, he had a brand new one and exchanged it for the one I had. So far, so good. I've been able to download everything, even the CD's I couldn't download before. It's a small thing, but it's nice. Did a small workout on my pilates machine today. I need to get back to that...maybe my back won't bother me so much. I have such a hard time keeping up a program. Just have to make myself do it. I'm looking forward to some pool time....that always helps. It's getting late, hope everyone has a great night. Eva
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LauraK...on the veggie BBQ, they were veggie burgers and they were very good. Jim melted some provolone on them and they were quite tasty. Of course I ate mine with out the bun, so it was very good. They also had french fries (baked frozen ones) cole slaw, and beans...so pretty much a regular BBQ.
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Phyl, I hope your son is okay....keeping fingers crossed for him. Glad you are feeling better....pool work sounds like fun!! Great, glad you are in your new home and you'll have it organized before you know it. Glad you got your internet up and working already too..that's good. When you get lonely, you can always call your Grandma or get on line with us. Best wishes to you in your new home. Apples, glad you had a good weekend. You'll be home for what 2 days and then off again. What a life!! Yes, I know you work hard and deserve it...I'm just envious right now. LauraK...yep, I love working in the yard....it makes me feel good. Of course hostas would shrivel up and die in 30 minutes here. Laura, having someone to work out with really does help...I'm hoping to find one of the people that walk in the neighborhood regularly to walk with once I'm no longer employed. I really had going to a gym. I haven't been to one of the teppan yaki grills for a long time. Maybe DH and I should do that one of these nights for date night. Jessica, I admire your ability to keep your focus. Are you enjoying Twilight? I have all them in audio book form. I really enjoyed it and will listen to them again some day. My sister is supposed to be coming back from Florida Friday to pack up her house and move there for two years...now the other sister (the one in Phoenix) called and said she may not be moving there....so we both are up in the air not knowing what is going on. Such drama in the life of unemployed relatives. Work was okay today...the phone wasn't ringing off the hook and I actually got something accomplished. On days like today, I really don't mind working. Today one of my customers had a unibrow....she was in desperate need of waxing I think. It's really hard to talk to her without looking and that amazing brow line. Oh well, I can be grateful I just need regular plucking. I'm going to listen to my book for a while...have a good evening everyone. Eva
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Janet, where's Andrew? Why isn't he walking his dog? Those pitbull type of dogs have lots of energy and need to be able to run. At least you have a nice fenced yard for him. Does he dig up your plants? I had a 2 vicodin night last night. At least I slept...a lot and this morning, besides the hang over, I'm feeling quite a bit better. So much so, I went out in the more than 90 degree sunshine and planted a lantana that has been sitting in it's nursery pot in it's future hole for a month. I also did some more weed removal from my front rock pile. All in all a good morning. I really don't want to get too carried away today because I think my back issues yesterday may have been aggravated by the weed work at my sister's. For some reason, I seem to crave the heat and sunshine...I will wait until it's hot before I go out and do stuff in the yard....when I come inside it feels so good. I think all my muscles stretch better in the heat. I've heard about yoga done at more than 100 degrees to help with the stretching. I remember back when I had grass (a different house), I would wait until noon before I'd go outside and move the grass...it would be so hot, but I seem to like it in small doses. We are going to a friends today for a little BBQ (vegetarian style). These are some of the FNSC people and I haven't seen them in quite a while so I'm looking forward to it. Have a great Memorial day! Thanks to all that serve our country in what ever capacity it is and to those who have given their lives. Eva
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Judy....MOM works for me (Milk of Magnesia) over night stuff. Sorry...I really understand how you feel...hope everything comes out alright! Laura...no puppy yet....they are a lot of work and you will be the one taking care of it. You'll worry when you go to NC and DH is at work all day and night. I love dogs....but don't want another one until I'm home more. Well the back is still giving me fits...it's okay for a day or two and then it bothers me again. Janet, there's always one sibling that wants everything for nothing....sorry. Getting house sitters (dog sitters) that you can trust is tough. There are services available here, but they are expensive. Joyce, glad your car dried out. Sounds hot and humid in KC. It was a very relaxing day....cooked, read my book, walked to my gf's house to feed the cats and didn't set off the alarm..YIPEE!! The ribs came out very nice. I marinated them in a concoction of orange juice, onions, garlic, chipolte (sp?)peppers and stuff, then slow cooked them for 3 hours. The DH put them on the grill for about an hour. They did get a little toasted on one side, but they were pretty good. I mixed the marinade with plain old regular BBQ sauce, added a couple more peppers and made a very good BBQ even DH liked it. I used to be able to eat 1/2 a rack....can barely get through 2 ribs now. It is a nice change. Hope everyone has a great night. Eva
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Cheri....enjoy your weekend....write something, go for a walk....three day weekends are far and few between. Sorry about your family's problem...you seem to have more than your fair share. Meredith...wow, congrats on the weight loss. Take care and don't hurt yourself with being too tight. It's not good for you. When will you be out of school? Janet, sounds like you are having a nice relaxing weekend. I'm just doing weekend chores and reading a book. I finished one and am working on the 2nd. I'm cat sitting for my girlfriend and she has a house alarm. Since I haven't had to do the alarm in almost a year, I set it off big time yesterday. I finally figured it out and hopefully won't set it off again, but that was not fun....it's very loud. I called my friend, but her cell phone went to voice mail. She finally called this morning and said she had 4 calls, two from the alarm company and 2 from me. Oh well. It's a really nice day...hope everyone is enjoying their's. CBL
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Jessica...sounds like a nice day. We are going to have ribs too, but probably not until tomorrow. I'm going to find a marinade or dry rub for them I think.
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Joyce, movies in the afternoons is really nice. I love it when there aren't many people in the theater....however, being a working stiff, don't get that pleasure except on weekends. After I retire, then I won't have anyone to go with because they are all still working, but I can go by myself...that would be good too. Melissa, glad to hear you are feeling better. It's all very hard and we have to go at our own pace. Hang in there. Phyl, I didn't know you were feeling poorly...sorry about the bronchitis. Take it easy, you know the drill. My MIL gets bronchitis frequently...she lives with smokers also so I believe that doesn't help. Enjoy your concert, that should be a lot of fun! Got my tortoise food shopping done. We went to look at Airstream trailers, but the place was already closed, so we went out for lunch and then grocery shopping. I have to bribe DH to stop at the store....groveling and ummm other stuff. He hates to shop and Albertsons didn't even have any beer he liked. Okay, off to read or maybe take a nap....don't know why I'm tired, I slept well last night and plenty long enough. CBL
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Sorry Janet...had every intention of staying in touch...however, you know how life gets in the way. I spent around 3 hours this morning working on my sisters yard. She'll be back next weekend to pack her stuff and move to Florida for 2 years....we'll see. She is going to put her house up for rent while she is gone. Her yard is totally out of control...weeds everywhere and the trees needed trimming. So I got some of the weeds pulled up and all of the front yard trimming done. It looks a little better. Have plans of down loading audio books, cooking ribs one of these days....maybe going to see the airstream trailer store, reading a book (yes, an actual book), shopping for turtle food, laundry and I don't know what else. My backside is a little sore from bending and pulling weeds....I'm stiff as an old board and this always happens. So if I don't feel too bad tomorrow, I'll go back to my sister's a pull more weeds. I love long weekends....wish there were more of them. CBL Eva
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Joyce, I like your tattoo idea....don't think I'd want it notarized either...LOL. PJ...gecko up the arm would freak me out too...not that I'm afraid of them, but the startle you and they have those sharp little claw feet...yuck.