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Hi workingonit, Please go back and read Gail's post. (Gail is a sweetie, btw) ... If I could die and come back as Carlene, I would. But... :thumbup: I have had all the fills I am going to get - my surgeon is fairly livid with me - so I'm not going back. There is no sweet spot for me, and I easily stretch out my pouch (I think). But what I do feel after a "meal" is NOT full. I feel as though I am going to puke. I am losing massive amounts of hair, as I can't get enough protein in me, let alone any veggies. And I am taking those awful chewable vitamins from CVS (chewables cost extra!). I have been told to stop drinking the Muscle Milk, as it has too many calories (even the 'lite' version), and as it is a liquid, doesn't stay put long enough in the pouch to make me feel 'full'*. *They (Doctors or Surgeons) LIE to you when they say you won't feel hungry - this is pure BS. What you will feel like is one of those gannets that Japanese fishermen use to get fish. This sea-going bird on the end of the fisherman's rope would normally swallow those fish, but it has that rope tied around it's neck so IT CAN'T SWALLOW. If your pouch is full, yes, you feel as though you can't eat more - but that's because otherwise you get the urge to barf. Your pouch is NOT your stomach. Until your WELL-CHEWED* bites manage to ooze/get pushed through your nickle-sized port opening, your stomach surely will still feel empty. *If you don't chew your tiny little bites until they are like frothy nasty little sponges, you will then begin to 'SLIME'. Sliming is another thing they dare not mention. Other than having the ice cube stuck-in-your-throat feeling, sliming is THE WORST. :cursing: My liver got nicked (Surgeon didn't tell me) - after the initial fluoroscopic fill, which my surgeon didn't have time to do, obviously (surprise!!), I never did get fluoroscopic fills, even though I requested them more than once - and I didn't lose the weight I had so wanted and need to lose. OK, final rant, I promise. I don't give a crap what anyone glowingly tells you - if you don't bust ass and exercise, you won't lose jack. I weighed about 272 pounds when I finally had my surgery October of 2007. Guess how much I weight now? I can't eat bread (buns - anything) no rice, no pasta, no starch of any kind - especially doughy starch. I have been good about this... but sometimes I forget and start to eat a bun with my chicken - that's when trouble starts. It is difficult for me to exercise with an edema-filled ankle, this extra 150 pounds of fat (mostly on the front of me), and my lower back killing me with excruciating pain after about 100 steps, when I do try to walk. If you haven't exercised before surgery, on a regular basis, you are in for a rude surprise, and are wasting your time. I say fix your heart & your head, and if you can, make yourself start exercising. Good luck Nanette Ward

Oh goodie (jumping in, here...) This is a rant 'thread', so here goes nuthun... Brenda.... Ah to be young and arrogant... how lovely... I'm, like, Oh My Gawwwd! :omg: I wish I were - like - you! :bored My Rant & Welcome To It: I didn't realize it was improper etiquette to 'jump into' a conversation... I guess I was supposed to await a proper invite? OK, now I know. (This goes a long way to explain lurking, btw. An idiot 'newbie' like myself sits and reads to learn and get the feel for the forums, then when one does get up the nerve to join in, we're rewarded with smack-downs from someone who has been here since -like, OMG! - like - January!!) I fail to see how asking -in a polite manner- the meaning of some initials - cryptic to me, and I'm sure many others, following the same discussion (excuse me, thread...) can be a thread killer, but then I am old and therefore not 'with-it'. Brenda (Morsaille), you remind me of the little pinkies-up type of snots in junior high, that myself and several others avoided like the plague. One neat thing about being older and wiser... I'm driving the caddy - you're in the VW... figuratively speaking, of course. :heh: (Kathy Baker's character in Fried Green Tomatoes - in the Piggy Wiggly parking lot scene.) Back to lurkdom. - Or as you told Susan... off to find myself another thread. Nanette Ward, aka plumptuous (feel free to google me to your heart's content, anyone) :bolt: PS: Thank you to Chloe for your kind comment, I appreciated reading it.:puke: Thanks go out to l.a. susan, too. :clap2:

Yeah, but was he CUTE?

Thank you Carol for your encouragment and neat tips - I envy you having a chef for a hubby - mine burns water!! When he starts in on his butter kick, remind him of The Galloping Gourmet's regrets of showing people how to add creamy buttery stuff to their already sat-fat laden steak dishes. *_* I have a trick to share with ladies here - if I crave a bit of good old fashioned 'fried' cabbage, I toss it with olive oil mixed with liquid smoke, as I'm steaming and sauteeing. ~_^ Shhh our little secret. haha Sometimes I feel like marching over to a neighbor's house and choking her ... because every morning she fries bacon. Oooh to eat heaps of crispy bacon again... but the nitrites are killers. love, Nanette (STILL pre-band) <><

Hi Gail, Don't feel gun shy about speaking your mind... all us pre-op people NEED to hear various opinions and aspects, before we go in for this life-changing surgery. :clap2: I would like to suggest (and this is coming from someone who struggles daily with heavy-duty depression...) that maybe your outlook needs work. Your cup is half full, hon. You spent your savings, but it can grow back. Your health (besides Jesus) is the most important thing in your life. You can still go to counselling. And that band will help you. :bananapartyhat: Consider sitting there listening or talking to a not-a-clue, thin psychiatrist or counsellor, without the band in you to give you a helping hand... (eeeek!). Good luck hon, and God bless you, Nanette (STILL pre-op since Dec 26, 05)! :bananapartyhat: <><

(what's 'peckish'?) :Banane56: Very good advice, Jacquie! Not being snide here at all... are you a counselor? If not, you should be. I just wish you weren't so far away - I'd love to be your first patient/client!! :clap2: hugs, plumptuous <><

Good morning Jasmine, I'm pre-op, but I was wondering... this awful heatwave aside, have you been able to exercise at all? I've been reading other threads over the last few weeks, and several people are (a) staying away from what made them fat in the first place - and ( exercising. Tough to walk in 120° heat, though.... Do you have a pool available? Or an easy exercise class at a nearby senior center, maybe? This website is the best thing since sliced you-know-what. HA Best of luck hon, :Banane56: plumptuous <><

Hi Kathy, Sorry about your banding being put off... bummer. What is d.e.m.? :Banane56: Curious... Is your Dr Oliak, and Dr Owens local to our area? I'm in Fallbrook and am totally disllusioned with being told my surgeon does lapband, then having to fight tooth & nail to have the surgery done... what he really does is roux en y. So... I've been fibbed to, strung along, told to wait, told to "lose another ten"... yadda yadda... oh - his dietician? She said 'there isn't anyone in SD Co doing lap... so "when" he starts to do them, he'll be the only one." WHA??!!! Any small amount of web searching comes up with all sorts of Docs in SD Co that already DO lap band. :angry I hope you are able to get your surgery done, in a timely fashion, by trustworthy docs that you have total faith in and don't have to feel upset and let down by. (sigh...) Of all the people we live with and deal with on a day to day basis... having to deal with our surgeons shouldn't be part of the equation. :cry Sorry to be such a downer... I'm gonna go make myself a soy-yogurt smoothie. FOOD always cheers me up. LOL :faint: Do you have someone to go to meetings, or to the hospital with you? I am totaly available if you need me. Let me know, OK? hugs, plumptuous <>< (if you wanna call, our number is _60-723-1554, just plz never before noon, as hubby works late nights)

Hi Marie, why are you nervous hon? It's a very common surgery... I had mine removed - no complications, scars are infintesimally small... You'll do fine, I promise! :kiss2: big hugs, plumptuous <><

Hi primadonah, I'm in Fallbrook... may I ask where you are? I ask because sometimes people say San Diego, coz if they said.... Lakeside, or Bonsall, or Natural City, others not in SD co wouldn't know where of they were referring. :guess Big hugs, :Banane56: plumptuous <><

Hi Jacqui, I have seen that before, but still haven't been told what it means... what is meant by pb, please? :Banane56: I assume it means to regurgitate, but can't figure out why 'pb' ... ha Thank you, plumptuous <><

Hi Stephanie, :biggrin1: Good 'luck' on your fill appointment! YAY! :clap2: Which books, hon?? Please tell me when you get home & feel up to it, :Banane56: OK? Thanks!! plumputous <><

Hi Stephanie, What is a life stress unit, please? :Banane56: thanks! plumptuous <><

WOW!!! what a super great thread! YES God cares, knows, and will always Be There For You... even if it seems He isn't. Whomever mentioned the two kids - three if I count my husband has hit the nail on the head! I used to say that ALL the time to (girl)friends. You know what? I think they (hubbys) consciously or subconsciously get soapy Water ALL OVER the place when they do dishes or kids in the tub, just so you won't ask them ever again to do said chore. As for MILs... that is a hard one. I'm assuming she's the babysitter & that's why she feels making demands is OK..... that's a tough one. We are instructed to honor our parents... but then again, Jesus never had a Mother In Law... LOL. (just kidding....) You can't do a lot about her, exept ask hubby to talk with her. CYMBALTA is one med I have been told works on depression and anxiety attacks. Remember tho, anxiety attacks is our bodies or brains or both giving us very clear signals that we are scared $#itless... and most likely for very good reasons.... Bunnies die of fright -thankfully- before the coyotes reach them and rip them to shreds... we don't have that luxury. See a shrink -fib to hubby and say she told him he has to accompany you... teehee- and get on the meds - the faster the better. I'm on meds - the strongest dose allowed. They barely help, but they do. I wonder how your hubby is going to be a counselor, if he seriously needs one himself.... anyway, Please, self-love as best you can, let us help you any way we can (women are GREAT at networking!), and keep praying. Prayer is an awesome tool/weapon. PS: the Salvation Army idea shared in this thread was a good one - I didn't think of that! :Banane56: Hugs, Nanette <><

Hi Wendy (and everyone reading this!) I'm not yet banded... STILL WAITING for the office to give me a DATE!!! I say this is caps because I started all this after Christmas of LAST YEAR. :Banane56: I'm in Fallbrook... I could hock the cats and come your way sometime for a mini meet-up... or we could meet half way or something. Are there any other bandeds or pre-b's in your area, or between us that you know of? Let me know what sounds good to you, OK? (NO fair sayin "An In & Out burger." either!) LOL Hugs, plumptuous <>< _60-723-1554 (Only after noon, plz - hubby works nights...)

I saw that same program with hubby (he came into the office here and got me - I don't do TV, generally). I think it was Discovery Times channel - great channel by the way!! I don't recall them mentioning her first fill, but then I can't remember anything anymore. HA Too bad about Al - he was a terrific guy.

LOL, hi 'I'm with the band'... Your story is a great illustration of how "God moves (works) in mysterious ways."

WOW, Kat! I love reading your posts! You only just had your first fill mid-June (are you getting those state-side?), yet look how much you've lost already. GREAT going! Is 1.25cc a lot for a single fill? Seems like it, but I'm only guessing.

Moms are saints.

Hi Lisa, How come you have to wait so long to get your band in? '_' I read about it online, and a few friends shared news links with me, as they knew I'm WAY overweight and was looking at ways to get help. So many people still haven't heard about it yet, though, it's sad. Big hugs, Nanette <><

Hi 'Kare, Wonderful thoughts! Except - you haven't seen Oprah's trainer - woohoo!!! (hehe) That was neat info about the depression news, thank you. Learn something every day! My sweet daughter (30, young, single, intelligent, single... LOL) comes down for visits now & then, and says to me: "Moooom, just get out and walk! - You'll feel better!" (exasperated sound...) I think to myself, while I'm smiling at her perfect teeth and still-perky body: 'if you say 'Mom, just...!' one more time, I'm gonna knock your head off your shoulders - that'll make me feel better!' HA But I smile and say "OK, honey, I'll try.", that usually gets her off my back (I mean, makes her feel better... haha). Poor thing, she really does worry about her Mom. - I wasn't always as large as one of Wyland's famous whale murals... It is so hard for people who don't have depression to really get their mind around what it's truly like, and how debillitating it can be. If I can't cope with the world, I cant cope. No amount of whip-snapping is going to help. I thought up a pretty good description that I share with people when the subject arises... you're all free to use it, LOL. 'Depression isn't the boo-hoos that people (usually male spouses) think it is. It's really more like trying your darndest to waaaallllk thrrroooough coooolllllllld molaaaaaasssses.' This is why, sometimes, when people first start feeling some sort of energy, they climb flights of stairs and jump off buildings. They would have done it before (Prozac), but they didn't have the ambition or the energy. :straight Kimmie is right, I know she is. And some days I can and do get outdoors. I have what I call my 'lizard rock' out front, that I am supposed to sun on every day to get my Vit D and happy-mood going... My getting outside to get the mail across the road is a triumph. If Dave comes home from his long night at work, and the dishes are done, and the dryer is running, it's champagne cork-popping time! :scared: I really feel that once I get the help of a restriction device that helps me not crave a constant cargo of food all the time, I'll be able to start seeing some weight come off, stay off, be able to walk without my back aching from my stomach hanging out in front (I am currently sway-backed) and that will start another 'circle' ... one that will be good for me, for a change. This is what I am really looking forward to. Oh! And sewing for myself! I have always sewed for others... never for myself. I'm looking forward to making myself some fun, strappy sun dresses and nice things to wear. Shove all my baggy, no-Iron tee shirts to the back of my closet, wear things with BUTTONS!... and BELTS! again! teehee:clap2: Thank you for your great encouragement, 'Kare. Have a wonderful weekend, Nanette <><

Hi IB, :scared: I'm tryin, I'm tryin. I have a lot of weight to lose... and I know I'm getting arthritic in places, like my left thumb where it joins my hand. This getting old business sux. LOL A lot of it is the re-training of my brain and mind-set... trying to not have a "food-centered life" any more, as Dr. Callery put it. (Wow, talk about your revelation!!) hey - I can get myself up and outta bed without having Cocoa Pebbles and chocolate soy milk as the impetus any more! HA! Did your surgeon, or dietician(sp?) explain to you how one stops losing weight, after they've reached their goal? That's one concern I have... :omg: where are the brakes in this scenario? Thanks everyone for being here for me. This is way too kewl! I think I'll go duct tape my yellowpages together and make my own step thingie to use. I don't watch TV, but I can still plop it on the kitchen floor and entertain the cats with my unusual antics. Haha. Big hugs, Nanette (in Fallbrook!) <><

Hi Julie, I don't have a date yet, hon... sorry to say. But like IBLoser said, I do have to lose a bit more before he wants to to the band... sigh. If you're ever down here, lemme know, K? Hugs, me <><

ALWAYS! - God is awesome - always! :scared: Nanette <>< PS: may I ask where you're located? this forum (website) doesn't show location like thinnertimes does. - Just wondering. I'm in San Diego county.

Thank you for this great information! I'm still going to stick with my sun tea, though. Have to get used to NO soda pop (diet even) any more. :scared: Thank you for posting this, Nanette <><