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I found this thread to be interesting. I don't know about others here but I KNOW I have been subject to discrimination because of my weight. I would think most who have a weight issue would want everyone to be accepting of them and practice that back in all areas of their life. This is not a shot and Beth (I don't know her weight status) or anyone else. It was just eye opening for me. Beth, I literally cringed when I saw fag. It is an ugly word. I feel sorry that you seem to think it is ok to use it in any context. Peace.

That state of Virginia's population is about 7.7 million. I am not sure why you dropped the other 3.2 million. Perhaps they are not Christian? Anyway I apologized to all Virginian's (that includes you), the toothless, and I will add anyone who lives in the backwoods to that. I don't use that kind of language and explained it came across wrong. I can own my mistakes.

Yes and that is why I stated that I would not presume she is backwoods and toothless. She seems to be a very intelligent woman. I was using it as a prop of how bad it is to cast such broad strokes. I admit it did not come across well and my apologies to anyone who is from the great state of Virginia or missing teeth.

There is a huge difference between calling someone a bitch and using a derogatory term about their orientation or color of their skin. Wouldn't you agree? For the record I thought he went too far and the question was not fair. He also has the right to free speech as you are practicing here. Just because you have the right to free speech though does not mean you won't be called on it being ugly.

Or when all else fails pull out the disparaging name, fag, flamer, homo, n*g, g**k, and such correct? I am sorry you are not being let off the hook for your choice of words. The thing is I really respected how well you articulated your position until you waived your true flag. Then the real reason showed. Again only those who hate use those terms. Those who do not hate cringe at them, regardless of what side they are on. Take a close look at yourself and be really honest. You might be surprised at what you find. Oh by the way my mother has a 4 inch scar on her head from where some jerk threw a brick at her when she was coming out of a known gay club. She was there doing charity nursing work. Go figure. He screamed fag as he was doing it. No hate their eh?

Got it. I am assuming then you see no problem using the "n" word to speak about an African American you dislike or the "g" word to speak of an Asian American you dislike. You can also combine terms like "f*ing n*g" and such to really drive home the point. At least you are honest though. I will give you a point for that. Normally when speaking about someone I don't like I don't talk about the color of their skin, their orientation, etc. Only those who hate do that. It is a hallmark of ignorance........dear. It is interesting someone from Virginia of all states would be worried about how screwed up California is but I don't assume that you are toothless and backwoods like the t.v. portrays all Virginians to be.

It is always interesting to me when people let terms "slip" out. Kind of like using the n*g word in any context.

So she lied on her contract and that should not matter because she will answer to god for it? That makes no sense to me. Why even have a justice system then? To me it does not matter how the pictures came to light they are there, she lied, she broke her contract, done. Crown the runner up. I would say the same thing if she had answered that gay marriage was the best thing for America. The pictures are not the only way she has broke her contract. She has also been doing appearences and commercials without permission which is strictly forbidden in her contract. You say that the "majority" of American feels the same way she does. How can she be "punished" for something that is "main stream"? The fact that you don't see (or acknowledge) this does not surprise me. What have I refused to acknowledge?

I believe that she is guilty however she has not been convicted yet so she is not guilty in the eyes of the law and deserves a fair trial and good defense.

For me the truth is not such a gray area, you either did or did not. If someone asked me if I had ever considered suicide my answer would be yes in the above senario. I might follow it up with it was a fleeting thought and I would never do it but yeah it has flashed in my mind. For some though the truth can be moved to any direction that suits them at the time. I do see your point and have respect for you (really I do) arguing her meaning of consider is just blindly supporting Palin. But I am sure no one wants this thread to be the Palin show. We already have that with her daughter and baby daddy on Good Morning America all the time.

I am still in shock that he did not know what he put in your body. I wish you luck with this. You are so much nicer than I would be about it.

This may seem kind of weird but why not reschedule your surgery for when you get back? That way you can go to Disneyland and have fun and concentrate on youself when you get back. I know you have been waiting 5 weeks but what is another week or two? The surgery and band will still be here I promise.

Stay strong! I was married to an Army man. I know how hard deployments are. Your husband is not the only one serving his country, you are serving by proxy too. My current husband is retired Navy but is on active recall list. I hope that call does not come. I am disgusted at the care you received. You deserved better. Keep us up to date on your husband and quest!

What does Bill Clinton have to do with Palin's abortion thoughts? That is a really strange analogy. Anyway I don't choose to believe anything. It seems pretty clear to me. She said she never considered abortion and then states later she did consider it for a moment. I don't care either way what Palin considered or didn't consider for her personal healthcare decision but if she is going to talk about it at least be honest. She seems to change the truth depending on the audience she has. Either you considered it or you didn't. I don't see a middle ground there.

Actually it was a lie or she was lying when she stated in an earlier interview she never considered abortion. With her you never are really sure which is the truth.

Hi Dawn! My surgeon steered me towards the Gastric Sleeve. I am now sure that is what I am going to get. I don't have to worry about insurance issues though. I know some insurance does not cover the sleeve. You can visit the sleeve area of Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy Surgery (VSG) AKA Gastric Sleeve (NEW!) - Lap Band Surgery and Lap Band Discussion Forum I was already worried about complications of the band and having an object in my body before my surgeon talked about the sleeve so I was more open to following a different path I think.

You are right. People who don't have weight problems don't understand. Most of my coworkers know I am doing the surgery and I have to lose 10lbs before I can get a surgery date. So what does one do? Bring me brownies today. WTF? I love her dearly, she is really one of my best friends but geez. I don't think she was trying to sabotage me, she was really just being nice. She has always been skinny so she doesn't get it I think. I really should not eat "even one" brownie. There is another skinny coworker who looked shocked when I told her I was having surgery. She doesn't think I need it. I am 90lbs overweight with hypertension and I don't need it? I a sure she was just thinking stop stuffing your face and you will be fine. A heavy coworker I have is uncomfortable talking about it but I think that is their own issues. Another heavy coworker thought it was scary to think of "doing that to your body" but she didn't say it in a negative way, just being honest. I am thinking what are you and I doing every day to our hearts and our joints? Some people are supportive I guess and some are not. I am lucky the most important person, my husband, is all for whatever it is that I think is best for me.

That is great! I also had a chest x-ray. I don't know if this is the case with you but I was a smoker for a long time. I quit in September but I still have to have the chest x-ray. To be honest I would do almost anything at this point to get the surgery so x-ray away. It will also give me some comfort to know there is nothing on the x-ray right now since I am worried about my lungs after all those years of smoking.

I don't think you are being a coward. You had a bad experience before and don't want to repeat it. I had a surgery in September (not WLS) and was afraid of waking up in pain. I discussed this with both my surgeon and anesthesiologist. They made sure I got a shot of morphine right out of surgery. Let yours know how bad it was before and you are scared of the same thing happening again. Don't be afraid! This is going to be the start of a new life.

I had surgery to remove a salivary gland and had a drain for a few days. Right before I was discharged my doctor came and took it out. It was right under my jaw so you can imagine it was a very sensitive area. I felt a tugging and that odd tickle but no pain. A warning though, my drain was not pretty looking. When I saw it in the mirror I was disturbed because it was doing its job, draining "stuff". Mostly mine was kept wrapped but it drained through the wrap a few times and was just generally not pleasant to look at.

I was hoping a sleevster could help me. I know on the band you shouldn't/can't drink soda. I like to indulge in a diet soda once and awhile. I know it seems silly but I don't know if I could go the rest of my life with no soda. Can you drink soda with your sleeved tummy? Also I know skins (like from apples) are a no no / not tolerated by most. I love apples. In fact I eat one a day and have for years, granny smiths only. Can you eat skins with your sleeved tummy? My paperwork says you can't take NSAIDS (no problem) with the sleeve but it also says no B.C pills. I don't have to worry about getting preg (hubby has that taken care of) but I like to take them to regulate my periods and cut down on cramps. Have you heard of this before? I am supposed to shop for Protein suppliments now. I can't find anything on the web that does not have a truckload of soy in it. I am slightly allergic to soy (confirmed with blood test) and prefer not to eat it. I am also have a gastric allergy to peanuts (confirmed with blood test) and really shouldn't eat any (bad things happen) so this does limit my protein options a little. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

Wow. Many people here need to learn the difference between a tax rate and an EFFECTIVE tax rate. I PROMISE you that big corps pay a MUCH lower effective tax rate than the average middle class citizen. Corps like to throw out their rate before taking deductions. That would be like you stating you have tax rate of 25% but then taking your mortgage interest deduction which drops you to 7% but pretending 25% is still your tax rate. That is EXACTLY what corporations do. Do you really think Exxon or Walmart pay any where near what you and I pay percentage wise? HAHA.

Ugh. I was baptized catholic. Your type is the reason I abandoned religion long ago. But you know what? Keep spreading your hate. You make people see what organized religion and the Christian movement is REALLY about! Freedom for all (unless you are gay or not Christian), Life for all (unless you are on death row), Family values (unless your family has an unwed teenage daughter), don't worry about how you live your life day to day because it will all be forgiven on Sunday!

My surgery is at Balboa Naval Hospital so I can't get a sugery date until I lose the required 10% of extra weight which is about 10lbs for me. I can do all my pre-op stuff though. I stopped taking NSAIDS just in case I can lose the weight real quick like and have all my stuff done. My paperwork says I can't take NSAIDS or asprin for one month before surgery. I am excited for you! June 29th is not *that* far away when you think about it!