lisah25

I'm so sorry to hear about all you are going through!

No one is depriving anyone of choices. What it does do is stop the majority from dictating how the minority should live. I find it interesting that most polls show somewhere around 55% or so of the US is against any type of gay civil union. Polls also show that about 85-90% of the country identify as Christian. So I'm not the only one who feels as I do.

That's not what I asked. I wasn't asking about following laws, I was asking where in the Bible I am commanded to work to make laws to inforce what is in the Bible. But you are indeed forcing people to at least act as though they believe as you do. By wanting Biblical principles made into laws for no other reason then they are in the Bible.

Even your poll shows only 54% oppose gay civil unions. Since when are we a country of majority rules always?

I don't remember seeing anything in scripture that requires me to support laws to validate my beliefs? I'm not saying anything about my personal feelings about the right or wrongess of gay marriage. Or really any other issue that doesn't impact society as a whole. I'm talking about why anyone thinks their personal, spiritual beliefs should be shoved onto others through law.

http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=29#2 Shows that even back on 2003, 53% of those polled opposed gay marriage. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-04-10-gay-marriage-poll_x.htm 55% opposed gay marriage. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/same_sex_marriage_poll_040121.html Again, 55%. I don't call that vast.

So, what about all the straight marriages that don't produce kids? By choice or otherwise?

I expect people to support laws that benefit society. Where it's a matter of personal beliefs, with no compelling reason outside of that, then I expect people to be willing to live as they believe, and allow others to do the same. I expect people to look beyond themselves and realize that freedom may be hard to grant sometimes, but that we all have areas where we should be glad it's there. My in-laws don't believe in drinking alcohol. So, I don't order wine when I'm out with them, but I do drink a glass now and then otherwise. And I'm glad their belief is not law in this case. Which is why I am a Christian who doesn't agree gay marriage should be outlawed.

Well, I still don't conceed that point, that our laws were based on those morals. Even so, banning gay marriage isn't opposed by the vast majority of people. And further, why does might make right? Because we live in a country that loves freedom. Lots of things happen that I don't support or approve of, but as long as they don't affect my life, or society in general, I don't have a right to tell other people not to do it.

You don't have to support it, I'm not saying you need to go and start a wedding planning business or anything. But by supporting laws that keep it illegal, there is a level of authority to make people do, or not in this case, something. Based on your belief of what is right or wrong.

I guess my question is why you are drinking your protein that far out? I was told to only drink it while healing, after that my surgeon wants us to eat solid foods.

Which leads me to ask, assuming that you are against legal gay marriage, why can't you simply live your life based on what you believe is right or wrong? Why must everyone else in this country also do so, when it may not be their belief?

Kind of like married people wanting to set up their single friends? :confused: I know parents who admit if they knew what they were getting into, they wouldn't have had kids. I also know parents who are great parents, and love every good/bad/ugly moment.

And I love kids. I babysat as a teenager, and honestly when I was a kid I just assumed I would have them. Then grew up, and realized I just am not cut out to be a mom. I have a 5 year old niece I adore more then I ever thought I could. I saw something the other day about having someone in your life you would run into a burning building to save, and she was the first person who popped into my mind. I love being Auntie Lisa, but even with her, I'm aware I wouldn't want to be the parent.

Take a deep breath. Relax. Ok, now I have a couple of thoughts. Very few, if any, people have all the complications you list. Many have none of them. Some do have complications, and yes they can be serious. And you need to know there is risk. However, think about the risk of staying overweight, and what that does to our bodies and minds. And one big drawback to being on great groups like this is that those who post tend to be either new, or having problems. So you can get a skewed idea of what post-band life is like. The worst I've had happen so far is a few PBs. When I've eaten too much, or not chewed enough. I can eat pretty much anything I want, but I don't do much bread or Pasta, carbs aren't good for me. If you can't eat healthy foods, lean Protein for example, I think that is a sign of being too tight. A key, IMHO, to doing well with the band is knowing it's not a matter of having surgery, then going on without a thought. You have to be active in it, following up on getting a good fill level, communicating with your clinic team. It will take some time to learn how to live with your band. I LOVE my band. I don't think about food all day anymore. I'll plan what I want to bring to work for the day, then when I start to get hungry, I eat. Other then that, I'm not obessing about what I am going to eat, or not eat, or what I did eat. It's the first time in my life I've felt normal about food and eating. It's a wonderful feeling.

I never could understand how deciding not to have kids was selfish. To me, having them to please your parents, or society or such is selfish, and not fair to the kids.

I'm a DDD, and my DH isn't a boob guy. He's all for me getting a reduction when I get to goal.

Thanks! The service was Saturday, and it was as good as such things can be. The pastor who did the service had known her for a long time, and it was very personal.

Yipee - I knew you'd get through the worst of this soon.

I swear, while I know it's about educating us patients, sometimes the hoops we get to jump through feel like a test. Like how bad do we really want this, and what will we do to get it!?

Not many of us who were banded in the US have had it that long, it hasn't been approved that long. A nurse at the clinic where I go has had hers for 8 years now. There was a thread not long ago about how long it lasts, if I can find it I'll link to it. As far as complications, the vast majority of us don't have any outside of an occasional PB(productive burp, when what you just ate comes back up). While not fun, they aren't serious if it's just once in a while. Yes, there can be serious complications, it's important to know that there is some risk. For myself, that risk was much more acceptable then the risks of staying morbidly obese. One other thought, boards like this, and support groups, tend to have either new people who are learning how to live a banded life, or those who have been banded for a while, but are having problems. Those who are veteran banders, and are doing just fine, don't post a lot.

One of the reasons I chose the band was because of the long-term prospects. At 5 years out, the weight loss between the band and bypass is the same, from what I could find. And with the bypass, you don't have any way to adjust it later if need be. Pouches stretch out, and the body adapts to the malabsorption. With the band, it can be adjusted however your body needs it to be as you go along. That was very appealing to me.

You'll love him, all the staff really. I'm so impressed with how they treat us patients.

Short answer for me, I think most talk radio is BS. I've never been told that I should be a wife and mother and not work outside the home, if that's what I want. I believe that God gives us all different talents, and wants us to use them. No matter what our gender.

To me, this is a good example of when it works!