Tired_Old_Man

Ok, I left out a comma and constructed my sentence poorly. I should have wrote: "The story of the deaths in NY only surfaced when the news of him killing a couple of women in Jersey made the news." or at least: "It came out, when he killed a couple of women in Jersey, that he had previously killed in NY."

But does the state the teacher moved to check the FBI database before granting a teacher's license? When I lived in NY, a doctor killed 3 women through botched surgery (not bariactric) and after losing his license in NYS, he moved to New Jersey. It came out when he killed a couple of women in Jersey that he had previously killed in NY. Connecticut refused him a license because it was fresh in the papers when he applied for a license in that state, but there was nothing legally to stop them from granting the doctor a new license to kill. TOM PS: Bettina, I did not accuse you of dozing during civics, but many did.

If there is a God and Heaven, then I would imagine that JonBenet is there and I hope her mother is also there for a reunion. But, I doubt that any news of finding the killer or even a conviction which might include capital punishment is going to fill the void left in the hearts of the family (assuming they were totally innocent of any collusion or complicity in the tragic murder). The mother, I doubt went to her grace happily, at least not on the account of the letter in question.

The DNA found on the child's body was not from any family member. That test was done many years ago. It did not rule out the possibility that a family member colluded with an accomplice. You, like many, are under the impression that you live in America. Actually you live in (one of) "The United States of America" and there is a big difference. Many people slept through civics while in school. Most laws are left up to the individual states. A few years ago, for example, one stated passed a bill (later vetoed by the governor) that set 10 year prison penalties for a particular action, while in another of these 50 states, the governor gave the highest award that state could bestow on an individual for doing 2300 times what the first state's law would have imposed jail time for. My point: A doctor can commit atrocities and after losing his license, he can move to another state. A teacher can commit atrocities and after losing his license, he can move to another state. A truck-driver can commit atrocities and after losing his license, he can move to another state. Or as in the case of Catholic priests, and both public and private school teachers, the administrator can decide to keep the issue quiet an ship the offender "out of town".

There are some insect control companies that use "natural" methods to control insects. Personally though, I think that a chemical used in moderation is a small enough risk to be tolerable. As bad as our chemical industry is at foisting poisons on us, we still have a higher life expectancy than did our grand-parents.

:help: If I get a gender-bender operation, can I come to?:faint:

There are a myriad of reasons why we sabotage ourselves. One is our own emotional problems which lead us to get obese in the first place and the other is the way that we were lead to believe that the surgery was the fix. I know your doctor told you that the band was only a tool, but marketing talent was employed by the media, the manufacturer and by the doctor's staff. It may have been subtle, but they know how desperate people respond to "here it is, but..." No matter how big the "small print" is, it is still "small print". Do not give up on yourself. Do not feel defeated and then let that feeling of defeat become a self fulfilling prophesy. Seek a support group and/or seek professional help. Your band is only one of the tools. You, I mean we, all, need more.

The other reason is because the US Public and the News Media have made a deal (notarized by Satan?) to high-light non-news (or at least unimportant news and non life effecting) that has no lasting effect on the public other than to satisfy their thirst for gossip and speculation. Case in point: The JonBenet Ramsey 10 year old murder mystery and the nut case who claims to be her long lost and sought after killer. The real tragedy is how much important news was bumped from TV news shows and pumped from the pages of newspapers. Many important stories which may effect the lives of the US public were pushed aside to hear about this maybe-killer or maybe-15 minutes of fame-seeker. I usually spend a few hours a day watching cable-news. Yesterday, I taped 3 times as much as normal so that I could fast forward past the repetitive displays of this tragic 6 year old dancing in her parent's Quest to make her a star, to fast forward past the 7 and 10 year old interviews of her parents and the Boulder DA and police and to fast forward past the guessing of the experts. Many years from now, people will not know what important bill George W. BuSh signed into law, or about the killing of the Afghan army's soldiers by US fire or about many other things that are happening, but they will remember about "that guy arrested in was it Japan or Vietnam(?) or, oh well some place over there".

The real tragedy is how much important news was bumped from TV news shows and pumped from the pages of newspapers. Many important stories which may effect the lives of the US public were pushed aside to hear about this maybe-killer or maybe-15 minutes of fame-seeker. I usually spend a few hours a day watching cable-news. Yesterday, I taped 3 times as much as normal so that I could fast forward past the repetitive displays of this tragic 6 year old dancing in her parent's Quest to make her a star, to fast forward past the 7 and 10 year old interviews of her parents and the Boulder DA and police and to fast forward past the guessing of the experts.

We are all going to have wait for the DNA match. I'll put my money on no match. I looked into his eyes (on my 32" TV) and listened to his tone of voice. He is nuttier than my favorite Christmas Fruitcake and much, too, too much does not add up.:help:

So true, but the Band does help. I would do it again, even though all my family members think the Lap-Band has been a failure. Losing 95 pounds when you want to lose 150 is like the old half-full/half-empty debate. I still love to eat. Food has been my companion (though not my friend) ever since I was a child. I used to be skinny (my nick-name in high-school) until I hurt my leg playing football in college, then my calorie output dropped, but my calorie input rose. Result: 80 pound weight gain in 8 months. Since the Lap-Band surgery, I have grieved like I lost a friend, but it was only a companion, no make that an acquaintance. Sometimes when I got stuck at a weight and just could not lose, it was because I wasn't eating enough and my (prehistoric) thermostat drove my metabolism to protect me from starving. Instead of cutting back, I ate a little more including fat. I did not eat huge amounts of fat, but I stopped avoiding fat. Someday, I hope to start losing again. I seem to be in a stuck situation again, but I seem to keep injuring myself every time I start back to the gym. My body doesn't respond to training the way it used to. Hope my rant helped.

No offense taken or inferred. I guess the only good downs are the weight losses, but I have suffered too many other negative situations and sometimes I just feel like quitting, but luckily, I have a wonderful wife (looking over my shoulder as I write this), a great son and grand-children to give me a reason to survive. Have you ever heard Ray Charles sing "Lucky Old Son" and/or "Old Man River"? Put those two songs together with "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" by the Hollies and that is what gets me going. But I still feel tired.:faint: TOM PS: My wife was not really looking over my shoulder. PS2: She told me to write that.

I am not tired of sex, but tired of life and it's too many downs and not enough ups (no, not Viagra related).

A Lap-Band will not save anyone. A Lap-Band is a tool. Will buying a toolbox full of automotive tools, save you money on car repairs? Not unless you know how to use tools. Having a tool is the first step. Learning how to use the tool is the second and more important step. Many people who get bariatric surgery are disappointed with the results because they expect the surgery to act as a magic carpet and fly them to skinny-land. Sorry. If you want to be a pilot, you must learn to fly a plane. Bariactric surgery is not magic. Even a magician spends many hours (if not months or years) learning his craft. If anyone wants to be successful after bariactric surgery, they must follow the eating regiment prescribed by their surgeon or his nutritionist. Drinking is also important. One has to learn when to drink and when to avoid drinking. Proper choice of foods after surgery, after fills and at other times must be adhered to. Exercise is just as important as food regulation. I am not writing this to scare anyone. Many have been successful with their weight loss and many have not. Follow the rules. Don't be a pest, but insist on concise answers from your surgeon (or his nutritionist).

DON'T CHEAT AND LOOK AT THE BOTTOM FOR THE ANSWERS!!! History Exam... Everyone over 40 should have a pretty easy time at this exam. If you are under 40 you can claim a handicap. This is a History Exam for those who don't mind seeing how much they really remember about what went on in their life. Get paper and pencil and number from 1 to 20. Write the letter of each answer and score at the end. 1. In the 1940's, where were automobile headlight dimmer switches located? a. On the floor shift knob b. On the floor board, to the left of the clutch c. Next to the horn 2. The bottle top o f a Royal Crown Cola bottle had holes in it. For what was it used? a. Capture lightning bugs b. To sprinkle clothes before ironing c. Large salt shaker 3. Why was having milk delivered a problem in Northern Winters? a. Cows got cold and wouldn't produce milk b. Ice on highways forced delivery by dog sled c. Milkmen left deliveries outside of front doors and milk would freeze, expanding and pushing up the cardboard bottle top. 4. What was the popular chewi ng gum named for a game of chance? a. Blackjack b. Gin c. Craps! 5. What method did women use to look as if they were wearing stockings when none were available due to ra tioning during W.W.II? a. Suntan b. Leg painting c. Wearing slacks 6. What postwar car turned automotive design on its ear when you couldn't tell whether it was coming or going? a. Studebaker b. Nash Metro c. Tucker 7. Which was a popular candy when you were a kid? a. Strips of dried Peanut Butter b. chocolate licorice bars c. Wax coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar Water inside 8. How was Butch wax used? a. To stiffen a flat-top haircut so it stood up b. To make floors shiny and prevent scuffing c. On the wheels of roller skates to prevent rust 9. Before inline skates, how did you keep your roller skates attached to your shoes? a. With clamps, tightened by a skate key b. Woven straps that crossed the foot c. Long pieces of twine 10. As a kid, what was considered the best way to reach a decision? a. Consider all the facts b. Ask Mom c. Eeny-meeny-miney-mo 11. What was the most dreaded disease in the 1940's? a. Smallpox b. AIDS c. Polio 12. "I'll be down to get you in a ________, Honey" a. SUV b. Taxi c. Streetcar 13. What was the name of Caroline Kennedy's pet pony? a. Old Blue b. Paint c.. macaroni 14. What was a Duck-and-Cover Drill? a. Part of the game of hide and seek b. What you did when your Mom called you in to do chores c. Hiding under your desk, and covering your head with your arms in an A-bomb drill. 15. What was the name of the Indian Princess on the Howdy Doody show? a. Princess Summerfallwinterspring b. Princess Sacajawea c. Princess Moonshadow 16. What did all the really savvy students do when mime ographed tests were handed out in school? a. Immediately sniffed the purple ink, as this was believed to get you high b. Made paper airplanes to see who could sail theirs out the window c. Wrote another pupil's name on the top, to avoid their failure 17. Why did your Mom shop in stores that gave Green Stamps with purchases? a. To keep you out of mischief by licking the backs, which tasted like bubble gum b. They could be put in special books and redeemed for various household items c. They were given to the kids to be used as stick-on tattoos 18. Praise the Lord, and pass the _________? a. Meatballs b. Dames c. Ammunition 19. What was the name of the singing group that made the song "Cabdriver" a hit? a. The Ink Spots b. The Supremes c. The Esquires 20. Who left his heart in San Francisco? a. Tony Bennett b. Xavier Cugat c. George Gershwin ------------------------ -------------------------------------------------- ANSWERS 1. On the floor, to the left of the clutch. Hand controls, popular in Europe, took till the late '60's to catch on. 2. To sprinkle clothes before ironing. Who had a steam Iron? 3. c) Cold weather caused the milk to freeze and expand, popping the bottle top. 4. a) Blackjack Gum. 5. Special makeup was applied, followed by drawing a seam down the back of the leg with eyebrow pencil. 6. a ) 1946 Studebaker. 7. c) Wax coke bottles containing super-sweet colored water. 8. a) Wax for your flat top (butch) haircut. 9. a) With clamps, tightened by a skate key, which you wore on a shoestring around your neck. 10. c) Eeny-meeny-miney-mo. 11. c) Polio. In beginning of August, swimming pools were closed, movies and other public gathering places were closed to try to prevent spread of the disease. 12. Taxi. Better be ready by half-past eight! 13. c) Macaroni. 14. c) Hiding under your desk and covering your head with your arms in an A-bomb drill. 15. a) Princess Summerfallwinterspring. She was another puppet. 16. a) Immediately sniffed the purple ink to get a high. 17. Put in a special stamp book, they could be traded for household items at the Green Stamp store. 18. c) Ammunition, and we'll all be free. 19. a) The widely famous 50's group: The Inkspots. 20. a) Tony Bennett, and he sounds just as good today. SCORING 17-20 correct: You are older than dirt, and obviously gifted with mental abilities. Now if you could only find your glasses. Definitely someone who should share your wisdom! 12-16 correct: Not quite dirt yet, but you're getting there. 0-11 correct: You are not old enough to share the wisdom of your experiences.

According to some researchers and historians, Jesus was actually born on April 17, in the year 6BC. Before anyone calls me an atheist or worse, please realize that the December 25th date to celebrate Christmas was set by Constantine, the emperor of the Roman Empire about 325AD. He did it because he had declared that all Romans would become Christians and since the Romans were already celebrating a pagan holiday on December 25th (the god Saturn), it was easier to just change the name of the holiday gradually. Historians say that the reason that Joseph and Mary were going to Bethlehem was to be counted in a census as degreed by the Roman Emperor. The only two censuses taken in that era were in 6BC and 6AD. Herod was not alive in 6AD, so it must have been 6BC. The 3 wise men saw a celestial event which led them to the manger and that took place on April 17, 6BC.

Thanks to my genes, my arteries and veins are plague free. When the saw my weight, age and cholesterol count, they expected to find globs of goop in my arteries and veins during my angiogram.

Yes, when only one side of the political spectrum gets to express itself, we wind up in either the McCarthy scenario or a Nazi government. The Nazi's came to power based on fear of Communists and Jews. In this country today, they are scapegoating Liberals, peace activists and Muslims. Ann Coulter, the darling of the right-wing has called for all people who disagree with the BuSh administration, including the Democratic Congressman and other elected officials to be convicted as traitors. What's next? Maybe to change the Pledge of Allegiance to Read: I pledge allegiance to the Flag and the BuSh Administration, one nation, one voice, under Jesus with liberty and justice for all Christians in the right Soon they may be trotting out Jeb to run for president in 2008. I guess if Jeb purges some history for Neil, then Neil can run in 2116 or maybe Barbara or Jenna can use a phony ID to make the age requirement. How about Jenna for President and Barbara for VP? I wonder how many people know what the minimum age for a US president is? Shhhhh....Labor Movement: another bad word in 2006.

Yes, I had the EPS and during the EPS, my heart stopped. I was looking at the monitor and saw the flat-lines and the doctor asked, "Do you know what is going on?" and I replied, "My heart is not beating." We conversed for another 15 seconds (which seemed like an eternity) and then my heart started beating again. At the time, because I worked around electronic equipment, we decided that an AICD would mean forced medical retirement which I did not want. I want to make one thing clear; when I said that I: I was referring to my build in pacemaker which is a part of the nervous system of the body, not a man made and implanted pace-maker. I have passed stress tests or nuclear stress tests every year since the EPS and as long as I keep my weight under control and take my medication, I should be ok (I hope).

Please call your doctor for advice or if you had counseling by a nutritionist working in conjunction with your surgeon, call him/her. My doctor's plan for after surgery eating may be different than your doctor's plan. There are so many possibilities. Different brands of bands. Different sizes of bands. Different positioning of the band. Different initial tightness of the band. Each doctor has his own methods.

I like your sense of humor. I used to be right, now I am correct. A country is like a bird or an airplane. They each need a right-wing and a left-wing to fly. If either wing is too big, there must be a major correction by the rudder or elevators, or the plane or bird will crash.

I have an unusual heart condition and about 4 years ago, my heart stopped beating on a Sunday afternoon. I jumped out of my computer chair and starting doing "jumping-jacks" which I assumed (correctly since I am alive to write about it) would signal my autonomic pacemaker (part of the body) to kick my heart-rate up. My cardiologist did not believe me when I reached him through his service, but told me to get a ride to the local hospital's ER. While on monitoring equipment, my pulse dropped to the low 40's, and my blood-pressure hit as low as 71/45. I was on a monitor in the cardiac ward for 5 days and a few times my heart stopped for as long as 20 seconds, but restarted each time before the "crash-cart" arrived. I am being treated with medication and am tested every 6 months or so. So far, "knock on wood", I am surviving.:faint:

I used the word "you" in it's most general sense. Do "you" think that if I change the name of the thread to "People get the Government they Deserve" and then make the linked phrase read "People get what they deserve", anyone will be happier or people will know any more about their government? It was a joke.

Sounds to me like some who think I am unAmerican are trying to limit my First Amendments rights. Now I ask, "Is that being American or unAmerican?" I have been called names for stating my opinion. I have been accused of harboring terrorists. My father was killed in WWll in Berlin while fighting for the USA against Germany. My daughter-in-law was standing next to the South when it was hit and suffered both physical and physiological damage. I wiped that gray soot and tears from her face after she ran from the falling South Tower and held on for her life as she walked across the Brooklyn Bridge as the North Tower came down and then walked the 8 miles to our home. My son worked on the elevators of the World Trade Center as a member of Local 3 of the IBEW. I was an aircraft mechanic that worked for the airline which hit one of the towers and the Pentagon. I lost my job because of 911. I am an American and I have a right to speak. But I do not have a right to call people names and I don't. Report me to the FBI if you think I am a subversive. Let's see, "I know of this guy who exercises his constitutional rights of free speech." That will definitely get me investigated and arrested. Where is Joseph McCarthy when you need him?

Neither the thread nor my comments were directed at you or anyone else in particular. I am sorry if I offended you as an individual.