Tired_Old_Man

I think the less aggressive a surgeon is with fills and the slower he creeps up to the optimum fill point, the less chance you will have for PB's. That is assuming that you tailer your eating to the restriction level each time. I was doing fine until my second fill. Then PB's like mad. The surgeon added more Fluid to solve the problem. I argued with him that a partial de-fill would have been a better solution, but he said he had experience. He was wrong. The PB's got worse. When I moved from Brooklyn to Florida and changed doctors, the new doctor gave me more saline and my PB's continued to get worse. Finally after one more add, they had to empty my band because I could hold nothing down except clear fluids. I have been unrestricted now for about 4 months. So, Elisabeth, please do not worry about PB's following you next fill, because I think your doctor is going about it the right way.

Hi Mel and Happy Holiday to ya. I hope that we will not be of any help to you because everything will go so smoothly that you will never need any... BUT WE WILL BE HERE FOR YOU IF YOU DO NEED US.

Putting a dog to sleep is one of the traumatic things that I have ever had to do (though it was the vet who actually performed the deed). Recently I was debating getting a cortisone shot for my bad knee (3 surgeries, next time artificial knee). My choice was 10 seconds of pain and 6 to 8 months of being able to walk without continual agony or skip the 10 seconds of pain that accompanies the injection and suffering every time I walk in continual agony. My wife, sister-in-law and brother-in-law all said they would skip the needle to avoid the needle's pain. I took the injection. What does this have to do with dogs? The pain of putting away a dog hurts much more than any needle, but the pleasure that a loving dog can give you is only surpassed by the love and life-giving fulfillment that raising a child can provide. No one should put off living because there is death at the end of the road. If you want a dog, do not let the specter of his demise deter you. Buy the kind of dog that you most like. I have had 5 German Shepherds. They lasted from 11 years to 14 years (except for a puppy that had to be put away at 9 months). I love all of them, and cried and mourned each one almost as if each were human. Getting a new dog after one dies can help so much. It is a major difference between mourning a human and a dog. You can't go out and bring home another mother, father, etc. But you can bring home another dog, and no matter how much you loved the last one, when the puppy licks your face, your mind is relieved. Now, we have an unusual mix: Half Malamute, half PitBull. We love him just as much (and maybe more) than any of our German Shepherds. He is 11 and in good health. I fear putting him away, because he will be our last dog. I fear having to tell my grand-daughter where her beloved Rocky is on that day. I am crying as I write this, so I must stop.

Reprinted with permission of the Original Author: I may be wrong, but to me a rant is long winded monologue. A rave is an excited or passionate post. The description of the Lap-Band Talk Rants and Raves is “Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave. Enter at your own risk!” I may be wrong again, but I assumed that “Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave” meant to debate civilly but with passion and to debate topics that do not belong in other sections, because they stir up anger and passion (like religion, politics, etc). I may be wrong a third time, but I doubt if the owner of Lap-Band Talk expected this type of “no respect” fighting. I thought we were adults here. Most of these “fights” basically fall into one of three categories: 1. (S)he did it first 2. (S)he is bad, I am good or they are bad, we are good 3. Did, did not I will not be drawn into these fights. I feel that people who respect this forum should not be drawn into them. I feel that people with self respect should not be drawn into them. My quoted post from above has become the object of a mini-debate. The debate about my post has remained civil, but rather than have anyone guess my intention for posting it, I felt that it would be better to give the reason to those concerned straight from the horse's mouth, though someone may counter that it seems like it was straight from the horse's ass, but I can live with that. Tis better to Light One single Candle than to Curse the Darkness. Tis better to be One single Member who doesn't type that One Last Reply than to Curse another Member who could not restrain from typing that One Last Reply.:help:

Tis better to Light One single Candle than to Curse the Darkness. Tis better to be One single Member who doesn't type that One Last Reply than to Curse another Member who could not restrain from typing that One Last Reply.:help:

Reprinted with permission of the Original Author: I may be wrong, but to me a rant is long winded monologue. A rave is an excited or passionate post. The description of the Lap-Band Talk Rants and Raves is “Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave. Enter at your own risk!” I may be wrong again, but I assumed that “Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave” meant to debate civilly but with passion and to debate topics that do not belong in other sections, because they stir up anger and passion (like religion, politics, etc). I may be wrong a third time, but I doubt if the owner of Lap-Band Talk expected this type of “no respect” fighting. I thought we were adults here. Most of these “fights” basically fall into one of three categories: 1. (S)he did it first 2. (S)he is bad, I am good or they are bad, we are good 3. Did, did not I will not be drawn into these fights. I feel that people who respect this forum should not be drawn into them. I feel that people with self respect should not be drawn into them. My quoted post from above has become the object of a mini-debate. The debate about my post has remained civil, but rather than have anyone guess my intention for posting it, I felt that it would be better to give the reason to those concerned straight from the horse's mouth, though someone may counter that it seems like it was straight from the horse's ass, but I can live with that.

Good Job and Good Luck on your up-coming surgery.

I do weight training, but I do not believe in multiple sets. Reason #1: You spend over half your time at the gym resting between sets Reason #2: You wear out your joints Reason #1 is obvious. If you are doing 5 sets of 10, you spend as much time resting between sets as you do, doing the reps and when you add in the time spent walking between the machines and setting seat and pin position/plate amounts, there is too much wasted time. Reason #2: Every muscle in the body, including the brain (not technically a muscle) and the heart benefit from usage. But JOINTS DO NOT BENEFIT FROM USAGE. JOINTS WEAR OUT. I use the 8-13 method of working out. Lets say I have not been to the gym for 6 months or it was my first time ever at the gym. Let's also speculate that I am using a Nautilus type machine which requires a pin to be moved to select the number of plates in use. I guess how many plates I should use. I could make the guess more educated by looking for someone who seems to be my size and age and seeing how many plates they are using or if the last person on the machine was much stronger looking and used 10 plates, I might try 6 plates. Then I do as many repetitions as I can with good form. Good form means no jerking the weights, coming to a full stop at both ends of travel and letting the plates down at least as slowly as they went up. I want to be able to do no less than 8 repetitions nor more than 13. Let's say I can only do 7 reps before I am exhausted. That means that I had too many plates. I note that down so that when I come back tomorrow (or the next day), I will use one less plate = 5. If I had done 14 or more, then I would note down to add one more plate next time = 7. If I made 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 or 13, then I would use 6 plates again the next time I come back and each time I come to the gym, I try to do at least as many or more reps until I am over 13. Anytime you get over 13 and then add a plate on your next visit, you will automatically drop back down toward 8 reps. I can not take credit for this technique, nor the abuse for suggesting it. I learned it at “Jack La Lanne” and have used it for years and I always build muscle quickly and add plates and strength quickly. In the town where I live, the local hospital owns 5 gyms and they staff them with health professionals. They teach the 10-15 system, which is the same as I use except the minimum is 10 rather than 8 and the plate change point is 15 rather than 13. In either case, you do only one set and move on. My typical workout is to go on a cardio machine first for 5 minutes. Then stretch. Then back on a cardio for from 15 to 45 minutes depending on the type of machine and the condition I am in. Sometimes I miss months without going to the gym and sometimes I am a good boy and go 5 to 7 times a week for months. After the cardio, I go to an arm machine. Then I go to a back, then ab, then arm, then back, then ab and by then I can start doing some leg machines. The idea is to rest each muscle area while you are working others. I never stop moving and get cardio benefits even while doing arms or back or abs. I work every body part every visit. Yes, I am sore for the first couple of days, but I learned when I played football in college, that Tuesday was the hardest day of practice. Why? Because the game was Saturday, Sunday was a day off, Monday was the first day of practice and Tuesday you were sore from Monday. When you get into a constant regime, the soreness goes away. Because I am not using either extremely high weights, nor an extremely high number of reps (5 sets of 10 = 50), my body does not get bogged down trying to rebuild from over exertion. Every trainer will tell you that my method is wrong. They will quote Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mr. Universe, but are we in that class? The hospital that owns the 5 gyms in my area doesn't believe in multiple sets either. Who would you rather listen to, a health professional or a Gold's Gym or Bally's Spa personal trainer? I'll go with the health professional. I am 61, have a BMI in the high 30's and amaze the youngsters at my gym.

Do you remember that movie "Twins" with the governator and Danny Devito? Well they mixed the sperm of Rush, Sean, Bill O', Bill Bennett, Glen Beck and Ann Coulter and impregnated my mother Katherine Harris and out popped TOM. As a child I saluted the flag with both hands and memorized the Old and New testaments. Then I got hooked on Oxycontin and pot, rebelled, grew some ***, burned some flags, read the Qur'an and 1984, volunteered all my parents for the war in Iraq and became a candidate for Lap-Band surgery. My imperfection was not enough to cause by parents to commit suicide, but I will never stop being the person that they would not want a radio talk-show phone-call from if they didn't have the ability to cut-off the call. I hope you were being as satirical as I was.. PS: in case any of you have a dirty mind, *** is the filtiest word of all, at least at this forum: FAT.

Its sort of like when you see that a schoolbus has collided with a firetruck. You go to see what the damage is, but you would have been happier if the accident had never happened.

Thanks. It may wind up at our next yard-sale. But we will give it a try.

My wife is a diebetic and wants to burn off sugar and tone muscles (which burn calories more efficiently) with out impact problems (arthritis too). This machine doesn't seem to be much of anything except in the way.

Can we also talk about the radio shows of the 1950's before my family had a TV? Fibber McGee and Molly Inner Sactum The Lone Ranger The Shadow Edgar Bergen

If the Whites win, it will prove that whites are more intelligent. If the Blacks win, it will prove that they were bred for strength and endurance. If the asias win, it will be because they flashed their cameras in the eyes of the others and blinded them. If the Hispanics win, we will deport them for being illegal.

So did I. I wish they would make a new movie version of 1984. But, I guess it would be too boring for the needs of the avarage movie goer who values "special effects" over plot.

Didn't the Globetrotters start because it was the accepted idea that Negroes could not play basketball?

I wish they would call the season off. I am a Steeler's fan and if they called the season off, the Steelers would be the NFL (and World) Champion for two consecutive years.:faint:

Have you seen the movie, "V for Vendetta"?

That is neither me nor my wife on it.:faint:

This is the one she bought.

Wow, I'd hope no one would be a fan of that Big Brother!Actually, I was a fan of Emanuel Goldstein.

I made the above statement to explain why I voted to Ban members who are violating the board's Rules (or TOS = Terms of Service). It was not directed at remarks in this thread and is on the first page of the thread. I may be wrong, but to me a rant is long winded monologue. A rave is an excited or passionate post. The description of the Lap-Band Talk Rants and Raves is “Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave. Enter at your own risk!” I may be wrong again, but I assumed that “Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave” meant to debate civilly but with passion and to debate topics that do not belong in other sections, because they stir up anger and passion (like religion, politics, etc). I may be wrong a third time, but I doubt if the owner of Lap-Band Talk expected this type of “no respect” fighting. I thought we were adults here. Most of these “fights” basically fall into one of three categories: 1. (S)he did it first 2. (S)he is bad, I am good or they are bad, we are good 3. Did, did not I will not be drawn into these fights. I feel that people who respect this forum should not be drawn into them. I feel that people with self respect should not be drawn into them. My quoted post from above has become the object of a mini-debate. The debate about my post has remained civil, but rather than have anyone guess my intention for posting it, I felt that it would be better to give the reason to those concerned straight from the horse's mouth, though someone may counter that it seems like it was straight from the horse's ass, but I can live with that.

I thought you were talking about 1984

I ate normally the day before my surgery. Actually, I ate what a normal person would eat the day before as compared to the way I normally ate which got me to the point where I required a Lap-Band. I had my Lap-Band surgery labroscopicly and the only eating restriction was not to eat after midnight. Open surgery might have other restrictions.

If a restaurant served exquisite food, but there was a dumpster right next to the restaurant that caused a stench in the vicinity of the wonderful restaurant, it would scare many perspective diners away. These uncontrolled rants are a stench.