Tired_Old_Man

Cozy Cole did "Topsy part ll". Stevie wonder did "Fingertips part ll", but you can play with me any time.:faint:

No Comment!!!:help:

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A sense of humor is imperative for keeping one's sanity, but it also gets me in trouble a lot.:boxing:

You women are great. :clap2: I had qualms about posting the joke and deleted it once, then I saw (and remembered reading) the thread Warning ADULT content XXX (please don't look if you're easily offended) and said, "I'll give it a try". Thanks to all of you for being open minded.:confused:

There is a company here in Florida called "Nozzle Nolan" that does non-chemical lawn care. I do not know if theyt are in your state.

Do you think I will still be sarcastic?:fencing:

I told you in the PM that we had better be careful. My "other" wife knows the combination to the safe where I keep my 38 Magnum.:help:

I could just imagine George W. BuSh and I hanging out together in Heaven. He would probably invite me to a Friday night dance with all the "Unborn aborted babies". I bet I could have a more intelligent conversation with the "Unborns".

We don't get to chose as indiviuals what we pay for. It is a collective society and laws are not always what is right. Slavery was once the law, but it was changed. This concept of borders may be very sacred to some, but to me, humanity comes before borders.

Or he is repeating me.:confused:

People do not know what they are talking about, no matter what their level of education. Personally, when I fill out a form and it asks Race(?), I write "Human". That pisses a lot of people off, but except when I was getting my Security Clearance to work at the airport and it was needed to encode my ID, there has never been a real need to know my race on any application. My doctor was not going to change his methods during surgery if I had written White or Black or Asian. By the way, I always say Black rather than Afro-American or African-American, because a person can be Black without being American. On "ABC World News Tonight" last year the anchorman was reading a story on AIDS in Africa and he said, "40 million Afro-Americans have AIDS in Africa", then stopped reading, thought about it for a while and said, I mean, "40 million Blacks have AIDS in Africa". Why couldn't he have just said, "40 million people have AIDS in Africa"?

Barry Goldwater, the father of the Conservative movement in the USA, today might be considered a Liberal by the Neo-Cons and Christians who have high-jacked the "Party of Lincoln". The only reason that I, (today) a Liberal Democrat (about 3 paces to the left of either of the Clinton's), did not vote for Goldwater in 1964 was that I was 17 months too young. Party names and idealogical names have morphed mightily during the past few years and greatly over the past 4 decades.

Pearl Buck can get your kids in trouble.:confused:

Jodie, try reading some books by Melody Beattie. "Codependant No More" is my personal favorite. http://www.melodybeattie.com/library/library.htm

Thank God, we don't have a President that feels that way!!:faint:

Am I glad that I don't have to pay child support.:help:

I was not directing my post at anyone, but at the concept itself. I know there are many problems with the immigration situation, but fine tuning is the answer, not a meat cleaver.

My feelings about this issue have nothing to do with BuSh. I have held the same basic beliefs since before the first Bush, (HW) and probably before Reagan or Carter. I think that the crime wave will diminish when people are allowed to come out of hiding. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. When the (legal) Puerto Ricans emigrated en mass to Brooklyn and the Bronx (boroughs of NYC) in the early 60's, we had many of the same problems. Now Puerto Ricans have moved up the economic ladder and are complaining about the Dominicans who are starting to move up and complaining about the Mexicans and Guatemalans I really do not know if my ancestors came here legally or not, but Italians were known to be “With Out Papers” often enough to be get the nickname WOP's. My grandfather who was born in Italy in 1901, joined the US army in WW1 in order to get his citizenship. They didn't worry about having citizenship or not with a World War going on and running out of American White men. Hell, they even had to take Blacks eventually and (God forbid) give them guns. The Irish, when they came over en masse also lived in crime ridden slums. In modern Brooklyn, since the Soviet Union broke up, there has been a huge influx of Russian Jews moving into Brighten Beach (near Coney Island) and the crime rate has sky-rocketed in that area as the Russian Mafia has proven to make the Italian Mafia look mellow. And getting back to my people; the Italians also lived in ghettos and had high crime rates. When people cluster together for protection from the established communities, crime and slums are a byproduct. And they brought the Mafia with them. You can find the same debates as we are having here at LBT and the same headlines plastered in the papers that were so prevalent last year when immigration was the topic de jour, if you go to the library and get the NY Times micro-films out. Except it will be in the last two centuries and it will be about the Irish, the Polish and the Italians. Everybody who came here and didn't speak English, has been persecuted And the Blacks and "Native Americans" have also fallen into that same "not as good as we are" syndrome. The English, who settled this country were among the most barbaric people who ever ruled the world. Their methods of annihilating the "Native Americans" were barbaric as were their methods of torture and execution. All people deserve a chance at feeding their families, and as far as changing the constitution to throw out innocent babies born here to "illegal" people, that smacks of calling babies "bastards" because their parents did not get married. Babies should never be blamed for the mistakes of their parents. Every group that comes here eventually melts into the pot of America, but too many of the people who's ancestors have come here don't want the same opportunities extended to the latest crop of foreigners. It is human nature. It is not the best component of human nature. Maybe the USA shouldn't have stolen so much land from the Spanish speaking people who settled it, then we would not have to complain when the Mexicans cross into Arizona and California. If a child lives with criticism, he learns to condemn . . . If a child lives with hostility, he learns to fight . . . If a child lives with fear, he learns to be apprehensive . . . If a child lives with pity, he learns to feel sorry for himself . . . If a child lives with ridicule, he learns to be shy . . . If a child lives with jealousy, he learns to feel guilt . . . BUT If a child lives with tolerance, he learns to be patient . . . If a child lives with encouragement, he learns to be confident . . . If a child lives with , he learns to be appreciative . . . If a child lives with acceptance, he learns to love . . . If a child lives with honesty, he learns what truth is . . . If a child lives with fairness, he learns justice . . . If a child lives with security, he learns to have faith in himself and those about him . . . If a child lives with friendliness, he learns the world is a nice place in which to live . . . We never stop being children (at heart), so the same can be said for the Undocumented Immigrants who are just as much “Children of God” as we are (in you are Christian) or just as human (with human rights) as we (whether you are religious or not).

I disagree with your version of reality. I see the Mexicans immigrants as becoming a part of our vibrant life and a boon to the economy. I also see them contributing even more if they do not have to hide and cluster in small areas. There is a big difference IMHO between the laws that were broken to get here and get a job, and other laws that may have been broken. If a person working here without proper documentation robs a store, mugs someone or burglarizes a home or car or deals drugs, that is different and should disqualify that person from eventual citizenship. I live in Florida. Many people here do not speak English. Many people here are Hispanic, but many are honored guests because the USA has a hard-arm for Fidel Castro. Why is a Cuban better than a Mexican? Why do Chinese people who make it to the USA get refugee status, but not Mexicans? How did your ancestors get here? My Italian ancestors were probably illegals. They were called WOP's back then. With Out Papers = Illegal.

Was that you? I'll make sure my kid never says that again.

I meant daughter.

Amen sister.

Most economists see the Mexican immigration issue as a net plus for the USA. I do not feel that compassion for poor people is a sign of weakness and I do not think that the kind of law enforcement that you would like to see will be good for our society in the long run. We already lead the world in prison occupancy. There are better ways to spend money than by being harsh to people who need to feed their families. I think if we spent a while walking in the moccasins of an illegal immigrant, we might change our ideas.

I was a bad boy when I was young. I drove a 1966 Olds 442 (Oldsmobile's version of the Pontiac GTO) and I raced it both on the street and at the track. In my best season, I won 5 trophies and won "Street Eliminator" once. Tina used to scream with joy when we were racing (on the street). Screamed louder if we lost and demand that we get whatever it would take to stop us from losing again. As soon as she got pregnant with baby TOM, if I touched the gas pedal too hard, she would scream, "What are you crazy?" Instead of a bachelor party, Tina and I went to the drag strip to race my 442 on the night before our wedding. Who says that I am not a romantic?