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From what I understand risk for a leak is during the healing stage of the staple line. Although my surgeon told me only about 2 weeks and your safe. I have read of people having/discovering they have a leak as late as 4 weeks out. I am not too sure of the stats on that but eventually the stomach's staple line heals completely...and I hope I'm correct about that.

I'm really feeling bad that you are in such distress! Is your surgeon involved? Shouldn't he or she be? How long ago were you sleeved? Do you know if your problem is sleeve related? Please keep us updated and feel better. I pray this matter is resolved.

Thank you God for bringing you know who through. Thank you for letting us know your okay. Please take care as others have already told you to do your sipping, walking and burping. We'll all be waiting to hear from you again when your ready and able. Looking forward...

bkind, I just want to thank you for your beautiful sentiment and support. I'm on this med now for the second night. I had a blah day today because as you can see I stay up too late and then having a med which acts as a sedative, awaking and actually getting out of bed in the morning is really difficult. I also am living alone for the first time in many years and without job in an apartment that doesn't feel like a home really. So, when I awake I feel a sort of despair a sort of "Oh no, another day to push through this painful void" So thank you for all of your beautiful suggestions. I am feeling really weak minded lately and doing what I can to be good to myself but not the best I can because I've little motivation. I believe in God and I know in my head that I must be grateful for the people in my life that are still here like my parents. I know there are so many lonely people out there in despair and sometimes I'm so ashamed of myself for my own despair and sadness. I'm going to see my PCP next week and ask her about doing that full scale hormone panel...I believe she will agree. I also will get the vitamin E that's one I haven't been taking. Chamomile tea is on my shopping list too. I'm looking into message and acupuncture as well. Thanks again-- your advise for self love is really something I need to work on. I wish you too all the best and may the love of God be with you always. Warmest regards, Lis

Sounds good Tiffy still sorry that you've got to have surgery. I hope you get through this easily and I pray your pain is little as you recover.

Here's my update for you...I had my first dose 15mg last night and I didn't get out of bed until nearly 11:00 this morning. I lazily lounged around after washing up, had breakfast then checked some email etc. All I wanted to do is sleep so I laid down in bed and fell asleep but awoke shortly after that and forced myself up at about 1:00. It's now 2:23 and I am going to force myself out the door to get to the gym and go on the treadmill at least a little bit. I think I'll take tonight's dose about 10:00 instead of midnight. I sure hope the sedative effect wears off at the higher dose and the antidepressant effect works well because I'm tired of trying different meds and I'm tired of being depressed. Please keep me informed on your end. You can PM me if you prefer or even email me lisnatoli@yahoo.com, or just reply on this thread either way any way since were on the same medication I'd appreciate comparing notes. Thanks so much Coopersmama. PS When I talked to a pharmacist last night about Remeron he said it's prescribed as a sedative for sleep never heard of it being used as an antidepressant. :sad0:

Thanks Daisy. Can you imagine I've been an internet user since 2001 and missed that one. Here I was thinking it was some sort of antidepressant drug classification! Duh! First night dose of Remeron (in its generic form) and I slept till nearly 11:00 got up had Breakfast, and yawned my way back to bed! I'm sedated thus far but shall see what happens tomorrow when I have an early morning appointment for an excercise (yoga) class.

Your in my thoughts and prayers ...your in the hands of one of the best surgeons out there but more than that your in Gods hands. I can't wait to hear from you again.

God NO not a protein shake! I'll toast with my citrus punch Vitamin Water instead! I't's the ONLY water I can drink without getting grossed out since the surgery 4.5 months now!

Super post Tiffy, I am glad to find out about the PPI and Calcium. Since I'm taking my PPI in the morning I'll take my calcium before bed as well.

I take (swallow) Citracal petites they are smaller than the usual and rounded nicely but still not as small as I would have preferred. They are coated tablets. w/500IU's of D and 400mgs of Calcium. The recommended dosage is 2 a day. I also take D3 at 5000 IUs nearly every day, but at least 3x a week. You can get the Citracal Calcium Citrate + D "Petites" nearly anywhere, any pharmacy.

Terrific list of links Tiff!!! Your in my heart and my prayers all the way.

Well I will be taking my first dose tonight in fact in about 10 minutes. I'm a bit apprehensive when I take a new drug since I live alone. I have no trouble falling asleep and the purpose of my shrink prescribing this drug is for (eventually) it's antidepressant effects. I'll let you know how I fare waking up tomorrow. Thanks for the update. Lets keep comparing notes as long as were both taking this medication and see if it's a help. Thanks so much for keeping me informed. Best to you. Lis

I agree with you on all points. I am working with my psychologist to locate a psychiatrist who will at the very least have some knowledge on eating disorders and perhaps know of one who has knowledge of ones body chemistry change after having bariatric WLS and how this may have an affect upon the various anti-depressant drugs in particular SSRI's. She, my psychologist is very together. I am going along with the protocol of this current neuropsychologist in the interim and who knows perhaps something good will emerge. All and all I DO NOT WANT TO BE ON ANY PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS for any great length of time and I am a huge advocate for natural/homeopathic/alternative nutriceuticals and substances. It's just that at present I am so UN-empowered due to the anxiety and morbid feelings/depressive feelings and fears etc. I just don't have the wherewithal to forge ahead as I in my (former unsleeved)state would have. I am out of omega 3's just finished a bottle of Carlson's Fish Oil in liquid form and barely could take it since it kind of sickens me taste and texture wise since the surgery. I'm going to order either fish oil capsules (since they are soft) or Krill oil since they are neat and small as well as taking 5000 IU's of D3 daily and B Complex and I also need to get some Vitamin E. I'm taking a multi liquid but after this bottle I'm going to switch to chewable or just ones small enough to swallow because I really don't like the taste of the liquid. I'm taking you up on the humming BTW, I do believe now that is the reason some people actually go around and hum...it is to relieve anxiety! Thanks so much for giving me so much. You stated that Abilify is the most weight-neutral of the anti-psychotics IMHO. What does IMHO stand for and is this drug for anxiety? Do you know if their are side effects? I'm just curious since I know you wouldn't be taking it for reasons of psychosis. May I ask you how long you have been taking Abilify? Warmest Regards and keep me posted please on your surgery date as it approaches...I'm overwhelmed and so I get lost in confusion often times. -Lis

It's really good to know your back home safe and forging ahead with your recovery. I'm also glad to know you've a husband there for you (he sounds like he's a good one) lucky you. Take everything slow and one day at a time and I am confident that you will fare very well. Thanks for getting back to us so soon. God bless.

Thanks for updating us. It really is upsetting to me that you've yet another surgery. I can't wait for this to be behind you and I pray for your comfort and speedy recovery through out. God speed and care Tiffy. xxooxx

Thank you HH, I agree with you entirely. I am learning this as I go. I've one psychiatrist that my psychologist (who works with bariatric WLS patients) says she knows of who is in her opinion excellent and the only doctor she refers her patients to. I tried elsewhere since her referral is such a distance from where I live but in the event that I don't get genuine relief from the psychiatrist I am consulting with now (who is just minutes from where I live), I will move on and try this other who is about an hour drive from me. What a task this has turned into. I'm trying to save my life here because living on this level is just so hard to bear and so burdensome on the few family members I've got in my life. My poor aging mother is devastated to see the state I'm in and my dear aging dad is trying so hard to be the strong young man he was years ago to support me. This is so painful to watch when I should be the one supporting them. Thanks for the support. I'll keep you all up to date as it goes.

Hey Daisy, Yeah I will try this generic form of Remeron and hope for the best. Before the surgery I had my same ups and downs but I was a whole fully functioning person able to cope. Now I fully realize I didn't become obese because I didn't use food as a coping mechanism. I did. I ate healthy, organic, and spent loving times with people sharing meals but I ate too much. Having this element of my life both the healthy eating and the over eating suddenly whisked away has had for me unfortunately a devastating impact and most definitely contributed to this unrelenting anxiety and depression. That said I do feel that there have been many hormonal changes with such a large part of the stomach removed and such a rapid weight loss....serotonin is produced in the stomach as well as ghrelin. although my surgeon agrees he doesn't have any answers for the connection between this and emotions and brain chemistry. He told me that he doesn't get involved with the emotional or mental health of his patients after the surgery. He will just refer you to see a psychologist.

Susan thank you so much for sharing this openly. I am very glad that the Prozac is working well for you. Is it actually Prozac or are you on the generic form of it? The problem I've been having with SSRI's (is Prozac an SSRI?) is that I can't eat!!! food repulses me to the point of gagging and barfing just looking at it. I have one more psychiatrist in mind if this one doesn't help me. It looks like this is going to be a long process but I pray it gets resolved by the spring as I need to live a relatively normal life. Right now I don't even care to get dressed each day, no make up, I don't even care that I'm losing weight. I've no libido all i do is manage my anxiety with pills and try to get in enough Fluid and Protein so I don't die. this is no way to live. thanks again Susan and bless you too for sharing.

I am amazed at what you have gone through but it doesn't surprise me. My problems with anxiety and depression began right after the surgery. Since then I've been seeking help desperately. I've been paying a psychologist out of pocket $100.00 per week just to sit and chat for an hour. I don't yet know if my health insurance will reimburse me any portion of that but soon my visits will have to stop if I don't get money back. I can see how superficial this is all to them we are just dollars and cents in their bank accounts really..and bottom line it's all experimental. I give YOU so much credit for what you have done for yourself through discipline and natural alternative supplementation. Deep within I know that that is where I really want to be. I do NOT want to end up on an antidepressant drug for life nor go through these horrendous side effects trying different drugs to "fix" me. Something changed within my chemistry after having this surgery and if it were not so severe I'd forsake these doctors and their meds. but I've barely been able to function. You my friend are an inspiration and I'd love to know more about what natural supplements and dosages you take to manage your life when you have the inclination and/or the time. You can PM me if you prefer. In the meanwhile I'll plug along and hope for no further complications and that this depression and anxiety will just leave me! I am picking up that prescription tomorrow for the Remeron (generic of course) and just hope I don't go through another mini hell with side effects etc. thanks a bunch for opening up as you have here. I must say I am very proud of you for finding a way for yourself. God bless your soul.

Wow thank you so much for sharing your situation here. I have not started the Mirtazipine yet but my prescription is also for 15 mg. Do you have trouble waking in the morning? Are you tired all of the next day? I want relief from anxiety and depression and I'd like to be able to at least enjoy a bit more of a variety of food but I sure don't want to feel lethargic day and night. Please keep me updated on how this drug continues to effect you and let me know of any side effects especially if you should have any. Also when your dosage is increased please let me know if the side effects you are already encountering do fade. Thanks again for sharing, it means alot to me.

Thinoneday, I pray for things to change for the better within your family structure. Do the best you know and then "let go and let God". And thank you for your heartfelt warmth and caring. Itstime, Thank God that there is love between your son in law ans his children, your grandchildren. It hurts so much when we watch our own kids suffer or do the wrong things and then when they have children the hurt just multiplies, unless somehow things really do change for the better. I turn to God he's got to be there and hear my prayers. I pray for all of us who are watching in pain. Thanks so much for understanding. Lis

I've had back pain and odd pain under my left breast. I have no gallbladder. I'm wondering too about the pains.