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thanks for helping the other day, but you should go over to the sleeve site and look at the lapband vs sleeve thread, the people that tried to trash me and call me a liar for saying that not everyone i knew with the sleeve was happy, the people that called me a liar and told me i was trying to ruin peoples surgeries, well they trashed the band, said it was no good, allowed it to be said that the band was a bad a idea for anyone. and wasbubblebutt is a site administrator there, hows that for ironic