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I hear ya Candy. I still have my RNY days. My debating days. I really went through surgery for results not more of the same. I still don't think at 40.5 that RNY was right for me...........but I guess I still have alot of my quick fix mentality. I just sometimes wonder what the band is doing since I am having to work my butt off and still diet!! I have some restriction but........is this it? I don't know. I guess all bandsters go through this............frustration.

Hey Candy I know what you mean. I keep telling myself the same thing. I went through surgery and I have to get down to goal weight.............I know I have lost 40 pounds but I didn't go through all the trauma for that...........but certainly is a much slower process than I though.............I thought the weight loss would speed up after surgery not slow down....................

Ok I Know I am on a roll but here is something interesting and I hope not to technical. HEad hunger defined. Psychological dependency is a dependency of the mind, and leads to psychological withdrawal symptoms (such as cravings, irritability) Addiction can in theory be derived from any rewarding behaviour, and is believed to be strongly associated with the dopaminergic system Some claim that it is a means to avoid undesired activity, but typically it is only so to a clinical level in individuals who have emotional, social, or psychological dysfunctions , replacing normal positive stimuli not otherwise attained (A person who is physically dependent, but not psychologically dependent can have their dose slowly dropped until they are no longer dependent. However, if that person is psychologically dependent, they are still at serious risk for relapse into abuse and subsequent physical dependence.[citation needed] Psychological dependence does not have to be limited only to substances; even activities and behavioural patterns can be considered addictions, if they become uncontrollable, e.g. [/url]", sexual addiction / pornography addiction, eating, self-injury, compulsive buying, or work addiction. This pertains alot to substance abuse and drug addict/my career but I do think that at the core alot of this psychological addiction stuff relates to food/head hunger and emotional eating as well.

Caucasions and carbs? Where did Dr. Fisher get this theory?? Interesting but is it scientific or observation? In his line of work I am guessing he know exactly what he is talking about but I have never heard this before. I know it to be true for me.................now I am gonna have to do some research!! Ok I went to the library today and got some books on weight loss and head hunger/psychological addiction as it is call in the field......also a couple of biographies but someone who lose 100 pounds and one who had gastric bypass..........some casual reading..........NOT!!

Ok well 2000 steps so far today .........but I rode my bike three miles in 27 minutes. I don't know if that is a world record or not!! LOL. But I forgot about the pedometer and was so disappointed when I got off the bike and realized that I didn't get any steps added for all that work...........should have chosen the treadmill instead. On the other hand I was sorta wondering how many miles I could ride in a week, 2 weeks...........well before the 25th anyway. I wonder if I could hit 50? I don't think Robin should be talking crap where other patients can hear. That is totally unprofessional. I would so get fired for that were I work and with HIPPA laws........not liking that attitude. If she would do it once.............well you know!! She is very young though and still learning the ropes.........I sometimes wish they had someone doing the nutrition stuff that has a bit more time under her belt..........learning to work well with people and motivate them is skill that takes time to develop................a team approach and encouragement works better than the domineering approach.............but ya know she is learning some of it from Liz...........I guess maybe some patients do need that............when someone gets in my face I tend to match them with my attitude...............but Liz was coole with me...........Robin has been ok in person.........I just sorta made it clear inthe beginning that I don't like to be talked to like that..............in a nice way!! LOL. I think more as an equal and don't want to be talked down to....................boundaries and rules .............yep that I can deal with.........I like that clear cut but for goodness sake treat me like an adult............... Ok ladies I am going to see a movie with my daughter.........nonfat hot chocolate here I come!!

congrats on onederland I can't wait!!

I know about the band saying stop and RIGHT NOW!! I totally know that feeling..........and I like you want to eat the rest. And I have to admit that sometimes after I get too full I just wait about 10 minutes and than suddenly it will go down..........still not eating bad things or too much. But really I think I need to stop when it is time and not feel bad about the 3/4's left on my plate!! Waiting to find out about my job too?? I should hear something this week. Forlough? Lose health benefits? Layoff? Paycut? I just don't know yet..................I am a single parent so everything is on my back financially!! But what can you do..........when I get this stressed I lose my apetite so all is good in that regard.

My teen is going through this diet stuff with me. As independant as she is she is copying everything I do. Makes me realize she has been following my eating habit for quite awhile..............she is eating up all this nutrition, vitamins, protiens, fiber, water and low carb stuff. She is thrilled that I am into all this now with her...........she also pushes me to exercise but is a bit of a nag too.........you only did 20 minutes not 30 mom........sorta annoying. She is also coming to Pinole with me on the 25th. She wants to be part of the nutrition class!! Never mind I keep telling her that it is for WLS............I only worry what she will blurt out to Dr. Baggs..........cause she did that at the last support meeting........."mom you have not been exercising enough" in front of everyone!! LOL..........I told her not to disclose my business this time but with her who knows!! Funny kid!! anyway she is off school for the summer and probably coming for the next few appointments...........than out to the Jelly Belly Factory and outlets..........maybe Marine World.

Heather 30 pounds really is alot!! I am impressed. Oh Candra Dr. Schurr told me I was borning, normal but boring!! I also didn't know how to take that but she passed me...........she asked me who the president was and I laughed and asked why she didn't know that!! She told me she was the asking the questions not me!! I do those psych evals at the time at work so I gave her a hard time. But in the end she made me cooperate to pass. I liked her. We talked about about raising teenager and eating issues with teens..........very smart woman!!

Hey Candra wow your doing great!! I also have the 1/2 cup bowls. Love them. I make lentils at the beginning of the week and and than fill them up to 1/3 cup and they are just easy to grab out of the fridge at night when I get home. Makes it easier not to snack that way........... I am reading some books today and than headed out to the gym later.........might go see a movie tonight.

Good for you Heather. Today was my day off but I usually work overtime to help other social workers out. Guess what they called me at home today and told me not to come in to take the day off. I guess the overtime is over. Yes the work needs to be done and yes state regulations won't be met. But at this point it is all about money. Really strange I don't know what it means........ Heather I won't know until monday if I got an email since I was not at work today. I am watching the Board of Supervisors meeting right now and it is grim but it does look like Sheriffs might get some of the funding back......... Girl I so feel your stress!!

Melba toast.........great idea. I won't touch bread after the last PB'ing incident last night. But I can eat croutons..........I joke that is my bread when I get a salad!! But I think maybe I could do melba toast great, great, great idea!! Ok ladies I threw out a bag of chips today. I had to dump alot of trash on them so I would not be tempted to eat them........left overs from nachos my daughter and her friend made..........I started to nibble a few and figured they had to go and quick. Made chili today added protien powder, soy meat a can of tomatoes, kidney beans..............full of protien and than ate them with tofu hot dogs.............talk about protien!! I got it today for sure........... Sadly more lost hair today............I can tell my hair is thinner I can feel it. Oh well......it will grow back!1

Hey Candy so is it the 23 or the 27th. I need to get the day off work!! I think I will be at the group fill in July too but we will see what Dr. Baggs says. I got 2cc's and 3 at surgery. Pretty tight fill the first week. So weird how Dr. Baggs decides how much. I sorta wonder if it has to do with pressure during the fill.......I know Riley has been moving slowly but she seems to have the same restriction as me. Everyone is different. We weill do lunch again in a couple of weeks!! We decided we like BJ's...........lots of choices. I hope everyone is doing well and has a great weekend. Donna loving the book and I got that new one you have as well. I plan to read it this weekend. Problem is I know my triggers and I know I emotionally eat..........stress and boredom..........but stopping it still hard!! After walking 9000 today I find the head hunger not as bad. Or maybe I just don't want to mess that up..........but I am walking stiff. I am an exercise wimp I fear!!

9000 steps today on the pedometer...........so very tired!! But I did it. Now to keep it up everyday.......that is the hard part.

I am doing liquids only today. I can feel my band and I think getting sick last night made my stomach swell. Worried about slipping. I serious have to figure out what foods don't work before I get sick...........at least my list of absolutely not is growing so I know some of what to avoid. Just this trial and error stuff worries me. I am getting out my Kaiser binder again today and sticking strictly to that..............but even some of what is on that won't work for me. Still mourning broccoli but at least I have salads.............weird how this band works!!

Heather you heard anything? I have heard nothing and today is Friday. I did hear they were going to try and restore some money to public safety yesterday but can't get a straight answer on what that means. Waiting games suck!!

I tried to eat an organic burrito tonight for dinner........small thing, snack size................ah I PB'd the worst ever. Good grief I guess I have to resort to nothing made with white flour!! Salad I can do Chris but broccoli and bread and I guess flour tortilla's are OUT. I know about getting almost stuck!! Sorry about the salad thing I would be upset with no salad. So far I am ok with salads............ So hard to tell what foods are a problem and what works.................. I am tired of PB'ing so I really gotta chose the right things. I am worried that my band will slip if I keep this up. Waiting for the 25th..................

Ah he said salad is ok after you eat your protein and if your still hungry.........something like main course first than salad last. He also said dark or field greens or spinach and even better have a bean type salad or add beans............ I don't think he is against it just doesn't think after the full protien you would still have room for it........ Also this book is saying support system over half of the key to success. So we are all doing something right!!

Hey Donna reading this book and he has some great points!! Even the salad point makes sense.......... I also have been doing some research online on lap band success rules.........ect. Something I noted was one doctor recommendes 3 meals a day breakfast and dinner smaller meals, lunch biggest meal no eating after 7pm no drinking for 2 hours after eating 4-5 hours between meals 20 of exercise everyday I sorta think the biggest meal being lunch and not eating after 7pm might make sense.........

Candy are you coming to the group fill appointment on the 25th? are you working for the country or state? I forget but it seems like you might be. I know county and state offices are crazy right now........

Candy we are all in the same place with the Head Hunger. Donna had a couple of great books today about Head Hunger and I borrowed the new Lap Band book she had!! A fill helps but this lap band stuff is harder than I thought. It sometimes seems like I am still doing all the work and the band is just along for the ride....literally!!

Nice seeing everyone today. Good luck tomorrow Candy. A fill helps alot!!

Hey Ladies I just got to work and it is gonna be a crazy day!! I should be able to make it for lunch but if I am not there at 12 go ahead and sit down and get started. My plan is to be there just gotta deal with some stuff her at work this morning that could hold me up .................don't want you all sitting around waiting!!

Head Hunger is a killer. I had a hard day too........... I was seriously craving sweets all day long. I think maybe because I ate bread and that started my cravings.............I seriously wanted to run to the store tonight for something, anything sweet..........my house has nothing!!! I ate way to much today too. I was doing good until I started to eat the cashews!! I don't get why this head hunger is getting us all lately. I have had a hard couple of days............well maybe I am stressed about the layoffs and that is doing me in!!

Oh fun Donna, Tina, Nicole, Pam, Heather...........anymore joining in? Do Donna's friends want to sit with us?? I fine if everyone else is.................. Candy, Christine? Reggie you will be missed!!