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I missed the Carnie episode but I hope to be home by 4pm for the next one............ I think the one thing Kaiser is missing is support groups in differnt locations and also I think the psychological part should be required. I think people should have a certian amount of counseling or a structured support group or emotional eating class. That might make up for some of the problems they seem to have with the group support approach. I just get so darn tired of them generalizing and downing our group all the time. If they came and spent timne with us or came to run a support group in the area than I could say ok they know what is going on. But how can they know unless they read the posts all the time and even than how can they know what is REALLY going on with the group..................I am tired of the putting down the group process or maybe it is just our group. Everyone show goes in says they are downing our group all the time and they also warned me to stay away from the group. So..........what is left if they down that??? I don't see an other support group in the area they are running. I get tired of the negeative alot of us are really trying and have really made progress..........we make mistakes but still we have all come a long way. THe people who aren't doing well usually drop out of the group. Just give us some credit at a group........ I am gonna end up bring this up next time I to to Kaiser. Just loosen it up and quit downing our groups. It has helped me alot or else I would not still be here..............

Interesting topic for the support meeting. Especially in light of all the recent comments about our groups being idiots.................anyone think our thread is read??? :-) I just think you can only handhold someones hand for so long than you have to let go and let them chose what to do. In other words you can't parent someone forever you have to let them go and trust them to make good choices or step away when they don't and let them suffer the consequences. HOw to know if someone really is capable of making good choices if you don't back off a little......... I am sure I am one of the sabateogers that they talked about because I still believe that after a year you either get the rules or you don't. I didn't do this to have my hand held for years. I know the rules and I know what I need to be doing. I don't want monthly check ins anymore except with my surgeon and even than I am hoping for less over time............ I have a problem with them telling me to have a support group and than at the same time telling me not to buy into a support group of idiots............very mixed message. I get you have to stand up for what you think is right but to keep down playing the support groups seems counterproductive.......... I think different approaches work for different people. But still I have to point out that some people at Kaiser are not perfect and do talk bad about patients in front of other patients and that creates a lack of trust for me and makes me not trust that system totally either........ or certain employees anyway. I am honest and I am sure that is something they don't want if we admit we aren't always perfectly on the plan......than we are not a good support memeber. I don't know Bella. I hear what they are saying but I think they say have a support group and yet don't buy into it totally either. I would rather be honest than to be a good group member and try to act perfect................. I think the honesty is part of the process. Of course I run groups and I just totally see things different as a social worker. But ya I think that group discussion was for people like me who really put things out there...............warning to the rest of you to watch out!! I still don't totally buy the approach. Nothering personal but I hate the way the put down on the group and the process all the time..............if everyone pretended to be perfect I would have left the group long ago. If we are sabetauging each other............that only happens if we don't take personal responsibility..........we all better have the personal responsibility figured out by now...... But I am not a favorite at Kaiser right now. So I am the one they warned you about...............:-)

Well I could use that 10 pound thing........From Kaiser? Is that a Fremont thing?? So does it really work?? I am not suppose to have bread not that it gets struck or anything now........but Dr. Baggs said no bread for me..... I am vegetarian but I think I have some veggie meat stuff I could use in place of the tuna. Ok so than you go to regular 1200......pre op diet?? Hmm I might try it. I am down again today but I am so up and down lately it is hard to know how long it will last. I think I will try it but have to start on Thursday or else figure out what to do when I go out to lunch tomorrow. I was planning to get a salad......not sure that would work. I plan to be there Saturday!!

Very lucky on the weight loss!! Dr. Baggs tends to be the most reasonable..............But you did lose actually. You got lucky they counted that I was told they wouldn't. Reggie glad your getting tested. I hope it all works out. Well I did good today. Got all my water in my body today and ate well except for a bite of my duaghter butterfinger candy................ The front part of my house is clean now...........feels good. I even moved the furnitur around so I could mop and vacuum. Back of house tomorrow.........I need this place clean so I can think!!

Yea I figured it was not LIz that sent you hear!! She warns everyone about us........just had to be sure!! :-) Liz is ok once you get to know her. But it depends too because with some people she never loosens up. I have not seen her for more than six months and I only saw her a few times before. I have issues with the other one.... Jes I hear ya. I use to be able to see Dr. Baggs every month no problem getting an appointment. I could call two week before and still get an appointment. But lately it is always 6 weeks or more............it has been crazy. Maybe because I go to Vacaville......but way to long and way to booked up at Richmond lately...............I wish they just had a fill center............I still think part of my problem is that Richmond is so far I don't want to go over unless it is an ER visit.............if they were closer I might have made different choices. I was told I was to tight when and that I am just right now. I don't know how they figure that. They said they think I was eating all liquids and that proves I was to tight........you brother all the theories people come up with when they forget to ask........ So Jes I can tell you what they will say!! You should TRY harder cause you have restriction your just not using it. Maybe you are drinking liquids!! LOL!! Get ready for the theories you will hear before your fill appoitnment :-) LOL

So how much did Dr Baggs make you lose?? I only had to lose 12 pounds so I went fast too. I had orientation in December and was ready for surgery by January. I was 2 pounds away from goal weight at my surgeon appointment.......I could have had surgery in February but I had an overseas trip so I waited until April. It went very quick for me.......... Oh ladies Dr. Machado here in Sacramento will NOT do fills unless you join her program. She told me she is "not a fill center"...........as if that was a very bad thing!!

So do you just show up at the grocery store?? Like the fruit section? I serious can't figure out how it could be a Raleys?? Do they close the store down?? HEATHER: So did CPS take the 18 month old?? Geez I was in that parking lot a few hours earlier. Scary. JES: I hear ya. It is taking me six weeks to schedule anything at Kaiser now. Dr. Baggs is totally booked all the time. Makes it hard. I think they have done so many bands now that they are backed up. A year ago it was not this crazy. They have only been doing the band less than two years. I think it is catching up with them. Jes I have no retriction either and I totally hear you. I want a fill so bad and the long waits are hard....... LAURIE: Did Liz send you over to this site? Just wondering Well I am cleaning my house. I can't stand the mess anymore!! Maybe by Friday I will have it finally cleaned. My sister told me the way she keeps hers clean is to focus on only one room a night after work. She is a clean freak so that is how she limits herself from spending to much time cleaning. For me.......it might help me spend some time cleaning.

Raley huh? WHy where they have a support group at a grocery store??? Let me know that is close to me!!

Welcome Newbies......:-) I had Dr. Baggs and i LOVE him he is the best!!! Great sense of humor too!! I had surgery in April of 2009

Tamra by the time you get done hopefully all the counties will be hiring..........

Hey All. I am under financial stress too..........seems to be the most common kind of stress. I realize that right now I am not making the band 1st like I use to. I know that I probably made weight loss more important than everything else awhile back but now real life has caught up with me............I have other number ones.........so balance.........I think I was to focused on weight loss before and let other things fall to the side...........now I can't do that anymore..........just trying to figure out how it all fits. Jes if I lived closer..............I don't even get off work in enough time to make it. Happy Sunday all. I am back on carpool duty today. Having a teenager in high school is kicking my butt. We are on the go all the time..............between that and work!! My house needs a good cleaning today!! I need to cook this week and take my lunch eating out is to expensive and not band friendly..........

Stress and not sleeping well here which I think makes losing so much harder. I have to go see my PCP cause my TOM is serious late and I am retaining water and sore like crazy. My bra doesn't fit me I am so swollen. Been like this for more than a month now. I am sure I am not pregnant but my body is acting like it is. I am going to see my PCP I need to figure out what is going on. Someone said eating to much soy can mess with your estrogen .......well my estrogen is seriously out of wack I just need to figure out why..........than maybe I coule lose so weight. I got down two but that lasted one day and now up and down for days........ I won't be getting a fill this month again. Darn it........no where close to 12 pounds right now.......

I hear ya Pam I am stuck at the same weight for weeks now. And yep I am majorly stressed out with layoffs and work..........the child abuse reports have tripled this week. I don't get it maybe everyone is stressed out as well...............we went from 5-6 emergencies a day to 20 and above every morning by 8am.............this is unreal!! Pam I wish you lived closer I get bored too. My daughter had a party tonight and was home hanging out but nothing on TV at all tonight.......

Reggie is your band to tight?? Stress? Let us know if your not able to meet up next week I would totally understand.................. My sister had that happen last year and came to on her bathroom floor when her 2 and 4 year old were screaming for her to get up..........she has a benign tumor on the side of her scalp......feels funny but nothing serious......... Just be careful.......

Ah Reggie that is scary that happened to me a couple times when I was too tight. Not sure what happened but I almost went down in subway.......but after I chilled in my car for awhile I was able to drive home. I don't know if it was the band .............I was taking BP pills and stopped cause I think it might have been those... Ah really scary stuff. I know it is surreal and scary I have been there..........Take care of yourself I had it happen twice and I still get worried if I get start to get dizzy............. Went to my PCP but she had no idea why.......Dr. Baggs didn't know why. Maybe the band being to tight? Ah Reggie how is your restriction? Did you get a fill the last time? I am dying here.............without a fill!!

Wow Doctors without Borders so is he in Haiti than?? That would be my guess. Hmmm ..............I know I went on a trip to Africa last year and I was gonna cancel for surgery and he told me to go to AFrica and have surgery when I got back.............told me that alot of his friends were into doing charity work and it was more important than scheduling surgery sooner................but I didn't know it was him doing the charity work!!! Interesting he was very into my going to AFrica now I understand why!! Impressive!! I have always liked him.

Dr Baggs is gone on vacation for a couple of weeks so you would have to figure out who is on call for him......

John I 100% agree that there are some control issues with Kaiser...............totally found that out the last couple of months. Same where I work people just out of school get drunk the power of worker for CPS in the beginning and go to the extreme.........once your around CPS you see people start to relax and not get so high off the power......I think with Kaiser it is alot about control and now sure why.................not everyone but for sure with some people...............I think it works for some people but for me it is a totally turn off...........I am having a hard time wanting to work the program.......I just want the darn fills and let me go.........but it has been a year of one to two times a week meetings..............I am so burned out and so fed up with the whole thing................most people at my stage are only going in every three months now.............I am totally feeling the control and hoovering and I am just done...............once I get a good fill I want to be done with all the appointments............. So darn burned out on the Kaiser hoops...........love the band but I want to be on my own now. I have learned everything I need to..............I was more on top of everything than even Kaiser was I did the research and I can quote Kaiser and the binder forward and back..... I was good with Robin but I did tell her the whole approach with me was a bit much.................I Have been having to drive there and see them once or twice a month since last NOvember..............I am so DONE!!!! Robin didn't realized that I was in there so much. I KNOW what to do give me the darn fills and let me go!! LOL. I felt like asking her about the "put the fork down comment" cause I think she needs to know not to every do that again but I didn't. I thought of what Jes said and shut my mouth........she was trying to imply the problems with me ending in ER was my fault again ........but whatevery I am done with those appointment. Just fills and nothing else.........once I get to my sweet spot I am DONE!! Dr. BAggs is ok but I am done with the rest............

Talked to Robin today. I don't have to keep meeting with her. I nicely got myself out of it............I told her after a year of once a month I am good on my own.......so if change my mind I can call her or if Dr. Baggs says I have to..........but otherwise I am done :-)

Sugar and Carbs here Tamra..........if I start. I just don't keep the foods around the house. My craving was Nachos. I think I finally tried them at 12 weeks out and they weren't even good...........I didn't like them. French fries is a big no no but than again so is nachos............I agree better not to start them cause it only makes you crave more things..................

Ah Nicole I am so sorry...........I was actually at the Jack in the Box on MOnday..........I had a home visit in the apartments behind the Jack in the Box............I was shocked when I saw it on the news.............I was just there............not even that bad of a neighborhood. Ah girl I am so sorry. I thought your sister lived in Marysville how did he end up on the South side of town......Ah yea cry but don't eat. The crying is a better way to deal with it..........don't push the feelings down wade through them you will heal faster............ Girl call me if you need to talk or text me. I am so, so sorry............

Bella your new???

Well I waited until almost 3:30 pm today for Robin to call and nothing so I went back to work. (I drove up to my house to get her call). When I got home tonight I saw she called at 3:36pm. My appointment was for 3pm..... I don't have voice message on my home phone and she usually calls my work cell phone but today she didn't. So no message and no call to the cell phone. I tried to call her back but after 6pm no one answering at Kaiser and I can't leave a message. So I guess I chase her down tomorrow...........great just what I needed. Looks like I avoided her but I didn't even know I had another appointment with her until last night. I just hope no note in my file about missing appointments....

Tamra I had horrible gas pains for about a week so I hear ya. Walk, walk, walk............it does come out.,

I will be nice today. I think like in the beginning I need to listen and say what they want to hear. Food log well after what I know and what I have heard I will write what they want me to write............but I am done talking. I will play the game again. I am asking after this for fill appointments only though. It is hard for me to take calls at work anyway. I might miss the 3pm call if I can't get out of the office but I will call and check back in so I don't get a note in my file. Jes your story about the coffee irratates me!! Really?? Ok than I am no gonna put coffee in my log. I will play the game so I can gtet a fill but not helpful and a waste of time. Candra still irratated by that "put the spoon down" story. I think my doc likes check in with Robin first.........so I might have to have them. But I will ask and say it has been a year of once a month I think I can be done now.........:-)