THE FOX

hey gillian and big sis, soz just realised ive got you both mixed up,meant to say about the shouting,just give them that look ,you know the one your mother used to do to you,and you swore that you would never useyeh thats right the one that shows you are having homicidal thoughts,and watch the room clear,or get one of those big fog horn thingys( see and i thought i was prepared) that should have them running,just dont let them get a hold of it,cos running for you is not good at the early stages,wonder how this weeks bandsters are getting on ,cant wait to read their replies,:biggrin:

hey gillian ( soz cant call you big sister as i have one and shes a right b***ch)anyway, stitches out today, PAINLESS !! was feeling really scared to cough etc, but left the docs went shopping for xmas pressies ,(ended up with a 3 k leather suite !!!!!!!) no difference then,forgot my painkillers and thought my pain was down to doc fiddling with me !!! but then realised id been lying ,sitting,bouncing on various sofas for about 2 hours,( hows that for coming on from surgery, never thought a week ago id ever bounce again,so there you go):biggrin: anyway it really is amazing just how good you can feel just10 days after surgery,im going to try a glass of wine or two before xmas,purely for you guys of course in the name of medical science:sneaky:, has anyone whose been banded recently, had a drink yet and what happened, did you get the hangover from hell? im glad i decided to get my band when i did as i will be healed enough to have xmas dinner and some fun at ne"erday,then i will get a fill in january and the real work will begin the fox:thumbup:

Ah ha ,miss flump good to have you back,no to the catheter,that was one i asked ( tho they do call the shunt in your arm for liquids a catheter) dr chris will advise a liquid diet for 10 days. but after 7 days i was eating small children i was soooo hungry !!! im waiting for frederik to contact me with a date for mid january for 1st fill,and im really glad cos my weight loss has all but stopped,hardly any restriction :w00t:,at the mo i had my husband do my bikini line the night before we left,and it really wasnt nesesary cos you have your drawers on the whole time,the incisions are above what was once my waistline,so if your wearing a bra after the op ,say for travelling,make sure its an underwire free, been to gps about the pain in my port, there is no infection tho the port is stitched onto a muscle,ive changed my co-codamol dispersible for diclofenac and oh my god ,wish id done it days ago and for the bandsters out there,who have kids who like to argue or scrap,dont get invoved, and stay away from people who irritate you as shouting is VERY painful and it causes your stitches to throb for some time afterwards,so not worth it, anyway hope this has answered some more questions for you and good luck to the bandsters for friday, this time next week,you will be ova the worst,but please experiment with pain relief,as i wish someone had told me this,i could have saved myself a lot of pain,feel da love,the fox:thumbup::cursing:

Hey Miss Flump Hope your not checking our grammar !!!!!,( or our grampa for that matter ) listen all you will need for the hospital is knickers,cos they give you a gown,there is a hand towel in the washroom,and they will clean your stitches while you are there, you will need toothbrush ,toothpaste,deodorant,hair brush and if hairs long a scrunchie or hair clip to tie it up, i took loose joggers and a dark t shirt with a pattern on the front,trainers and a plain black hoody,i couldnt have possible worn a bra if my life was dependant on it,and im a 46ff,!!!!!! Before you leave you will pick up a pack at the nurses station which contains, painkillers,anti nausea tabs( 3 of ,so use sparingly)pink antiseptic wash ( to use when changing dressings on day 3, tho i had to do mine sooner,cos of a reaction to the dressing )and your lovely last but not least injections for preventing blood clots,the needle is very sharp so very little pain there,small sting for a second,thats all your wounds will be covered,oh and you will also get anti embolism stockings,so leave yours at home,im just mentally trying to tick off your list what you said you are taking,and as this is not a regular holiday where we all take loads of stuff we dont need or even use,leave as much as you can at home!!!!!! any way good luck and any more questions ,just ask,

dear miss flump cant remember if i said,i wasnt offered a shower at the hospital,but neither did i feel like one,and i was going home to my hotel,but maybe if you ask, there will be facilities,there is a bathroom which you and your roommates share,well not really a bathroom,more of a large toilet with sinks for washing,in the ward/room,but if you really want a shower just ask,if you dont ask you wont get, good luck and remember to log on and let us know how you get on,our thoughts will be will you,love from the fox:thumbup:

Hi mmm, no i didnt drive home from the airport ,had a friend pick me up,im still not driving,thats 5 days after the op,im having a bit of a problem with one of the sites of the stitches,right next to the port,so im off to the docs in the morn,wish me luck,love from the fox:sad:

Hi there,if you feel you could cope,then go for it,you could always ask for help at the airport when you check in ,just tell them you are feeling unwell( but be aware,we flew from brussels to london,then london to glasgow,but the eagle eyed hostess on the london to glasgow flight,followed us down the aisle to ask my husband if i was ok as i looked terrible,we then said we had flown from brussels and i would manage,she then asked did i have a letter from my surgeon permitting me to fly !!!!!!! well i almost died of fright,:sad:i gave her the gastric band info and she took it to the captain where,they all had a huge conflab about the fat bird in agony in seat 12a,and whether she should be allowed to fly, in the end( after i had lost about 6lbs worrying) they decided it would be ok:cursing: and off we went, Let me guess are you a teacher,the girl in the hospital room wif me was a teacher and someone else on here is a teacher and are travelling back the next day also, brave bunch you lot, but thenou would only need to go into a classroom to know that !!!!! going for ANOTHER SHOWER it helps me to feel better:smile2: so till next time bandsters,take care,love from the fox

Hey Wishfull glad my posts are helping,you will be nervous ,excited,frightened, and a whole lot more, all i wished for was that i was back safe with my wee family and was 5 or 6 days post op ( forgot to add with no pain to the wish, so perhaps you could add it to yours !!!!!)cant believe im going to say this but,,,,,,,,,,,its hard to remember, even 5 days post op how bad the pain was !!!!!!!!! what i will say tho is when lying on your side,( i found it easier to lie on my left side)PUT A PILLOW UNDER YOUR TUMMY AND WOUNDS TO SUPPORT THEM,and you might get a better sleep,worked for me, can miss flump let me know how she is getting on, And can i just say i almost burst my stitches laughing at gillian and co about running for the wheelchairs at the airport,ive got a picture in my mind:laugh::laugh:it will b like a wheelchair convention,good luck the fox

Hi Garry dr chris and frederik do the op together, so it doesnt really matter who you speak to, ive spoken to both and was told the same by them both,they are both very nice, Chris on the other hand is frederiks partner in ecfs, the after care service,confusing i know dr chris, a guy called chris and a guy called frederik chris and frederik founded the ecfs company and run it with dr chris as far as i was led to believe, i had my first consultation in brussels the night before my op,found most of my questions answered right here on this forum, the people here are fab,so good luck in your quest and just keep logging on the info is sure to just keep coming,as more of us are banded,and dont forget everyones experience is different,but much the same,:thumbup:its all good,love from the fox,ps feeling better again,thanx to the wonder of chicken soup and a caring husband,

OMG Miss flump,sorry to scare you,have you already booked your flights,the campanile will provide towels, if you book the frederik package it takes into account that you will have someone with you ,the only other expense you will have is the flight(which i would say was very worth it !) the frederik package ,you have one night pre op in hotel,one night in hosp then the next night in the hotel again,can i just ask who advised you to travel the day after surgery as my room mate in the hospital did just that and both frederik and dr chris were very angry,because they would not advise travel the day after surgery and you wont feel like it either,(sorry to be the one to tell you this,but this forum is about supporting each other,and id hate to see any one suffer if they dont have to)i used wheelchair at the airport because i felt really wobbly on my feet and lightheaded( no wonder, when all i had was the lovely !!! pea soup they give you at the hosp) oh before i forget,stock up on the dutch crispbakes,asda do them,soups and sugar free jelly,for afterwards ans even if not hungry try to eat a little to keep your strength up,( though my appetites just fine, NOTHING like it was,but enough to get by) im now 4 days post op and i cant believe when i look at it like that,the small amount of pain im in in relation to just after,so no pain no gain girls,(how many times we heard that before) but seriously i feel it really is worth it soooooo far and im still in a little pain,unfortunetly for me a stone (although faboulous)is nothing on the scale of things for me ,but better off than on oh before i forget,in the campanile provide shampoo,towels soap,facecloths, handtowels,coffee, herbal teabags ( so if you dont like herbal,best take your own)sugar kettle,i took cupasoup and im glad i did,cos the painkillers were making me feel sick on an empty stomach,so if you can manage even a half a cupasoup it may prevent this,maid service will change towels make up bed replace toilet rolls ect,and there are shops nearby, which your companion could find quite easily should you need anything, im far from being an expert ,but i can answer any questions if i experienced it,i will try my best anyway,this forum was an absolute lifeline for me, miss flump when are you going to brussels? will sign off now, bowl of tomato soup waiting for me,feel the love,the fox:thumbup::cursing:

Hi guys,starting to feel a bit better again,but strangely enough the better i feel the hungrier i get !!! tomato soup ,chicken soup and dilute juice is starting already to loose its appeal,so if anyone has any ideas just to jolly me alone ,they would be really appreciated,oh i almost forgot the most important thing, today i weighed myself, and bearing in mind that my pre op diet wasnt fab, ive lost........wait for it......... one stone,yes one stone,in about 10 days,so its definately been worth it,and im sorry if i scared anyone with the pain description,but i thought it only fair i should give an accurate account of MY experience,in my room was a lovely young girl called saira,who travelled home on the eurotrain to london the day after the op, tho having spoken to her since she wished she hadnt,i left on the thurs,banded on the tues and needed a wheelchair at the airport as i felt really wobbly but on the up side we didnt have to wait in any queues,and received first class treatment at the airport ,so dont try to be brave girls,take any help you can ,you wouldnt have teeth pulled with no aneasthetic,there are no prizes for bravery,oh and i meant to mention i had a filling fall out while waiting to go to theatre,spooky eh,but overall, the best advice i would give would be to check your package before you go i had the frederik package for 4070,hotel,taxis,band,everything but flights,so no worries in a strange land,and can i just say the hotel do a fab steak dinner,the other girl in my room, her mum booked it all herself which is why she went home one day early ,and can i just say ,frederik was not amused,he was worried for her, but they booked the night before the op in the hotel before they arrived,then went to the hospital with all the luggage,and there is nowhere for your companion to sleep,so her mum then tried to rebook hotel for the night of the op and they were fully booked,so had to hunt for another hotel and they booked thro bridget who apparently told them they could leave the day after the op and dr chris was horrified, but they did indeed leave ,and when i left the hospital the poor girl was still vomiting and unable to tolerate even water,so just please be careful, check everything before you go and check again,well going back to bed now,but promise my updates will be happier the better i fell, tonight i actually fell not to bad,still painfull at the site of the stitches,as expected,but it will only get better from now on,roll on the big weight loss,(although ive got lots to lose)enjoy your xmas dinner girls:tt1: you deserve it,love from the fox

HEY TC27 AND GILLIAN AND ALL THE BANDSTERS, ITS THE FOX !!!! ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS, CAN I JUST EXPLAIN TO ANYONE NOT DONE YET OR NOT EVEN CLOSE THIS WAS JUST HOW I FELT,AND SO AS NOT TO UPSET ANYONE, I WAS SHOUTING !!.anyway calmer now, i chickened out !!!! JOKING, and banded and dusted,back home had a fab sleep in my own bed,and im feeling like ive been hit by a bus,it now feels like a small bus granted, in comparison to an aeroplane,its amazing what a difference a few days can make, ive just come downstairs for some painkillers and couldnt resist signing in although sitting at comp not recommended this early on!!!!!!!!! juast wanted to say thank you for the support girls,everything went fine.except that i had a crazy belgian gereatric patient in my room,but before you panic aparently this is not normal !well gotta go will leave much more details when i feel better, any questions just ask, good night and god bless you all,the fox:thumbup:

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH, THIS IS DRIVING ME COO-COO,:cursing:HAVE SPENT THE WHOLE NIGHT TRYING TO GET INSURANCE BUT ON MOST SITES CANT GET PAST THE FIRST PAGE ,SO AGAINST MY BETTER JUDGEMENT IVE GIVEN UP,IM ALSO TRYING TO DO IT WITHOUT MY 11 YEAR OLD LEANING OVER MY SHOULDER,COS HE KNOWS SOMETHINGS GOING ON, AND HE KEEPS TRYING TO SNEAK A LOOK AT WHAT IM DOING,AND IVE SPENT MOST OF THE DAYS SHOUTING AT HIM TO JUST LEAVE ME ALONE,AND NOW HES GONE TO BED I FEEL REALLY GUILTY,(THE 5 YEAR OLD CAN BE BOUGHT OFF WITH SOME PLAYSTATION TIME!) SO TOMORROW IS THE BIG DAY OFF TO BRUSSELS AND DONE ON TUES,HOME ON THURS, I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL YOU GUYS FOR THE ADVICE AND HELP GIVEN ON THE RUN UP TO THE OP,AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GIVE SOME GOOD ADVICE MYSELF AFTER TUES,SO HOPE TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL NEXT WEEK,I WILL BE THINKING OF YOU, HOPE YOU WILL BE THINKING OF ME,AU REVOIR MES AMIES:rolleyes2::biggrin::wink2:TILL NEXT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!! THE FOX

HEY CHRISSY4 THANKS FOR THAT,TRAVEL INSURANCE, ANY INFO ON THAT ONE,ANYONE OUT THERE REMEMBER READING IN PREVIOUS POSTS OR HAVING BEEN BANDED RECENTLY ABOUT INSURANCE AND WHAT TYPE I WILL NEED AND WHERE TO BUY:eek:,GOTTA GET IT DONE, OR MY HUBBY WILL PULL OUT, HES STARTING TO GET WORRIED AND AGITATED,AND HES ONLY MY COMPANION,( AS HE HAS THE BODY OF AN ATHLETE !!!):cursing:SO ANY INFO ON THE OLD INSURANCE FRONT WOULD BE VERY WELL RECEIVED AS I ONLY REALLY HAVE TOMORROW TO GET IT SORTED AS IM OFF ON MONDAY ,BANDED ON TUES AND HOME ON THURS,AND HOPING TO BE SITTING HERE AT THE COMPUTER POSTING NOTES ABOUT HOW EASY IT ALL WAS,:girl_hug:

OMG bytheseaside,THAT IS F A N T A S T I C,WELL DONE AND THEN SOME,HOPE MINE IS AS FAST AS THAT,IM OFF ON MONDAY TO BELGUIM AND THE ONLY THING I HAVENT GOT SORTED YET IS TRAVEL INSURANCE,CAN YOU TELL ME IF I NEED SPECIAL INSURANCE BECAUSE ITS A TRIP INVOLVING SURGERY, IF SO WHICH ONE DID YOU USE, HOPING TO GET ONE ONLINE, MY HUBBY NEARLY HAVING KITTENS AS THIS IS NOT SORTED YET, SO THE SOONER THE BETER, I SAY, AND MANY MANY CONGRATS FOR THE WHOPPING WEIGHT LOSS,AND I HOPE IM LEAVING MESSAGES LIKE THAT NEXT WEEK MYSELF, REGARDS THE FOX:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

OMG has that actually happened to anyone, id be gutted and id better get myself sorted out,!!!!!!! ive only got 6 days to go n im gonna try,:wink2::smile2: do you think i can make a difference in 6 days to the size of my liver,

Now just one more question how do i get that tracker weight loss thingy you all have on your page,im having a party on friday for A FEW close friends,the whole 5 i have told and its going to be fancy dress, the most ridiculous outfit you can find, im stuck between britney spears and a giant corn on the cob, but i say hey hell ,why not go out with a bang!!!!!!! there will be food ,booze and good company, what else do you need for a great party,:smile2:,so as you can probably tell the pre op diet is not going very good at all, but does everyone not pig out before the op or is it just me:embaressed_smile:

wow thats fantastic,and thanks so much for the info,hw did you get rid of the trapped wind? :wink2:,my husband is coming with me so i shouldnt be bored,he may be, but i hope to sleep the pain away !!!!!!!,now what about the xmas festivities,i wll be two weeks post op, will i still be on liquids and will that be long vodka for starters, dry white wine for main course and champagne for dessert, that is minus the strawberry cos thats a solid,so cant have that!!!!!!!!!!:smile2:

thanks alfie858,thats settled me a little:ohmy: ,so any info on how to prepare , what to take with me etc,my doctor has given me some dressings and co-codamol,will i need any other supplies,like do you wear your own pjs or a hospital gown! i dont want to be taking things i dont need,so anyway how are you coping post your banding,do you have loads to lose, i would like to lose about 9 stone, thought im almost 6 foot tall, so i just look well filled out apparantely !!!!!!!!!! but that is the opinion of friends,so good luck on your journey and keep us posted as to how you go,i fully intend to ,this forum has been a lifeline for me ,it also helped me make up my mind to go ahead and have it done,so roll 0n the 9th december and hopefully for my kids sake i will at least be upright for xmas day, THE FOX:w00t::smile2::wink2:

hi TC27, Im being banded on the 9th december im also in the hospital for one night and then the hotel for one night, i booked the package with frderik and was advised thats what most people do !!,so now im worried too, but bytheseaside was banded on the 28/11 and is now feeling loads better ,so maybe lots of pain day one two and three maybe but surely the hospital will give you pain relief, or do we take that ourselfs,and what else might we need ,AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH, !!!!!!!!!!!!:smile2::wink2:

hi gillian, how are you when are you being banded again,ive now got 1 week and im getting really scared now :biggrin:,any info would be appreciated,the fox

JUST WAITING AND WAITING FOR THE 8TH OF DECEMBER.............................:crying::wink2::smile2::laugh:

Hey you guys, Anyone there,its the Fox here,ive got 11 days till i go to brussels and ive got millions of questions, is there anyone out there who has already been banded that can give us a blow by blow account of events from pick up at the airport,im feeling very nervous as the time gets closer,my friends are starting to freak me out a wee bit ,they are getting very weepy and one of them asked me if i had written letters for my 2 young sons incase i dont come out of the anaesthetic !!!!!!!!!!!! HELP !!!i need all the info i can get to shut them up, its not that they dont think its a good idea, but they are worried,so im told,and now im worried too, not worried enough to cancel though !!

OMG friday you lucky thing , you will be all over and sorted for xmas,please remember us bandsters who still have to be done and post an honest and detailed account afterwards please,with every gorey detail included, !!!! im being banded on the 9th of december, is there no one else on this forum being done around the same time,im getting really nervous now,!!! I still havent received any more details from frederik about what happens after you pay your deposit, book your flights,all of which ive done, what now? do i just wait? can anyone tell me the proceedure from stepping off the airplane, like when is the last time you can eat or drink ,is it midnight or 12 hours before surgery, how will you know what time you will be operated on etc,sorry for all the questions but i know there are some of you already done and have the answers and i cant see the point of sitting worrying about it if someone can allay my fears,( hopefully) please excuse any spelling errors as im just finished a 12 hour night shift!!!:thumbup::ohmy:

hi there, i have heard of a tullia law, and think she is an agent for dr chris ,as i had a zillion phone calls from her trying to get me to book through her but after reading thisforum i decided to go straight to frederik myself and not through an agent,its cheaper that way, 4070 euro,( more money to spend on clothes when this huge fat body just melts away after surgery !!):cool2: being banded on the 9th of december, so hope im ok for xmas, i have two young kids,who will want mummy on the wii fit on xmas day, or at the very least to be sitting up with a little lippy on !!!:smile2: wouldnt it be good if we could post before and after pics here to encourage one another, just thought id throw that one in ,any takers, it would be interesting to see that photo that just decided it for you, and im sure we all have one, i certainly do !!