Kat817

So far the employees they laid off today--were entry level service people, wash bay workers, and warehouse help. They also laid off 2 engineers. None of them rec'd anything besides a big fat see ya! Rick said severance packages were offered for early retirement, but none have been mentioned for this. The company is notoriously cheap, so we are planning for no compensation at all. Manda is back at the ER. The gland went down, but today it swelled back up. She did her stint in the parade, and is waiting at the ER for them to drain the gland. I am trying to get Kinsey to sleep so I can leave her here with Rick so I can drive over and pick Manda up, they will have her pretty drugged up for the draining they said. Part of me wishes they would admit her overnight, and keep the IV going, and do it under sedation....but they don't sound like that is going to happen. Just so y'all know ahead of time, I plan on winning that Publishers Clearinghouse sweepstakes, that will give me $5K a week for life. And I am not sure when the drawing is....but when I win, y'all can count on me to cover the flight costs to 'bama!!! Man wouldn't that be nice, not enough money to have people coming out of the woodwork at you, or to be a kidnapping risk! But even after taxes it would be a nice chunk of change! So....when I win, I won't forget ya!!!! As I figured my DH is in a serious funk over his meds. Well I am going to go check on the girlie see if she went on to sleep. See y'all later! Kat

Maybe she thinks this is her only chance at stardom, letting them make HER and her family a TV show too. And then to say she plans to nurse the babies? I have had pets that had 8 in a litter and we had to rotate them out! Even feeding 2 at a time, if she feeds #'s 1&2, rests lets her milk build back up then feeds #'s 3&4, by the time she is finished 1&2 are going to be hungry again and 5,6,7,&8 have not even been fed once! My DD and I thought the best she could do would be to pump and supplement formula with some breast milk for the extra nutrients. I feel sorry for the kids..... Kat

Hi girls, Spent the morning at MVD, the grocery store and just now come in from Walmart. I am totally and completely broke! We use the pharmacy at our grocery store, here, so I went to pick up Rick's heart meds, and they are no longer on our formulary. Where I normally pay $40.00 a month, these were $174.60! I about croaked. I left them there, and come home and called his Dr here---they will not change his cardiologists Rx's. So I call Albq. to his cardiologist, and they cannot change it without seeing him. So by the time he takes a day off of work, and we drive 400 mile round trip to see the Dr. I am right back where I started. So I made him an appointment for Feb 12th (I think, heck I was so flustered by then I hope I wrote it down) and went back and bought his meds. He is going to lay an egg when he hears, he is likely to have a damn heart attack! Then the MVD hit hard.....it is scary how broke I feel! And Rick's work laid off the first round today. So he says he probably has another couple of weeks max. I have been praying hard that NM unemployment works out their issues in time for us. I have no idea what is going to happen. We will definitely be breaking into retirement, simply to survive. NM unemployment maxes out at $400.00 a week, so $1600.00 a month, and to pay cobra to continue the insurance for the child we are forced to pay Child support and insurance on, will be almost a thousand a month by itself, but her big expense is an on going bladder issue and a problematic knee, neither of which would be covered by an individual policy for 12 months if we were to try to go that way. My head is spinning from it all. I left the store, dropped off groceries, just to the table, took Kinsey to my Mom, and went for a ride. Cried it out a bit, and am ready (semi) to face whatever happens next. I read in our paper about another family who the father killed his wife, son and daughter then himself. The family in CA made the news the other night, where the parents killed the 5 kids then themselves. I cannot fathom the depths of desperation....I mean in worst case scenario, committing suicide would be difficult to imagine, but actually shooting my child, I seriously cannot digest the thought. It saddens me to think that I know I am dealing with some depression right now in relation to it all, but to be THAT depressed. I cannot imagine. Well, I need to get some firewood in, and pick up a few things....then I can kick back for awhile. Everyone take care! Kat

BJean, not for the first time...but once again, you seem to have taken all the jumbled thoughts running through my head, and put them into eloquent, well thought out sentences. Not condemning, not ever putting your beliefs above anothers, just simple questions and subject for discussion!!!!!! You have done it again! Love those posts, they encompass so many of the doubts and questions, that I too have had and voiced through the years, about WHY I am supposed to believe the interpretation of someone else. Well Done! Kat

NoPBJ, the thing that comes to mind for me, is that if your Dr. and his staff, say these VERY wrong things to you---it makes me wonder about possibly a bad placement on your band. Personally, I would do several things that have been mentioned...and just experiment, and try to figure it out. Journal every bite that goes into your mouth--figure the calories, and how many you burn through the day. Then begin in any way you can to burn more calories, and take less in, if the amount is higher than you expected. I would also take SERIOUS effort with the food I take in to make the bites small, and chew well. And stop after 10-15 minutes regardless of how I felt right then, if I was still starving in an hour, have another couple of bites, but maybe, it would be enough, without causing the overeating that might be the cause of your pain. If when you do that, you find the the intake and output should have you on a losing track, then I would look for another Dr. to do a study on your band----see if there is a physical reason for the pain. My way of looking at my band was with this analogy. If someone told me to go into the yard and dig a hole---with no tools, I could do it. I could scuff the dirt with my foot, and scoop it out with my bare hands, and make slow progress---until I hit a rock, or hard soil....then I would likely give up. Just as I could and did diet without my band, and did well for awhile, and then something happen (my rocks) and I would give up and back come the weight! So then the person who told you to dig the hole gives you a tool....a shovel! You can dig that hole SO much easier! However if you just let the shovel lay there when it is handed to you, it is not going to do anything....it takes you USING the shovel to make it work. It takes us working with the band as a tool to make it work. I believe that if you begin with some sort of exercise, however small, it will benefit you, even if in worst case scenario there is an issue with your band. The exercise increased the oxygen you take in, which will give you more energy---and just help emotionally. Even if it is a simple walk around the block....or dancing to music in the privacy of your living room....it all counts! I have had a couple of painful PB's in my almost 3 years. But I opted to keep my band fairly loose, and in fact have not had any fill since last April, due to a couple of surgeries. But it allowed me to eat healthy foods. I did my level best to keep most choices healthy, but did allow myself to eat like a normal person. I do not want to give up my life in an effort to be thin, I did not want to give up enjoying today for a tomorrow we are never promised. A well adjusted band, and a good support staff CAN make it possible. Unfortunately it is very easy to cheat the band, and it is also not uncommon for the band just not to be a good fit for a persons eating issues. Give it a fair shot.....Do your part. But if the pain persists, keep seeing your Dr. That will give you the documentation you will need if removal ends up being your answer. I wish you luck in working out your issues, and will vote with the crowd to maybe have a slight unfill, and see if being able to eat healthy foods in reasonable amounts eases the pain. Kat

I can't blame my Mom for my weight....and believe me through the years I have tried to blame a lot of my issues on her!!! LOL Seriously I know we don't really "blame" them, but we also know they did not really set great examples for us. My Mom and Dad were not too bad, they cooked, and made me cook balanced meals. The biggest thing my Mom did that destroyed my eating was that she had full meals every night. We would have a meat, a starch and a vegetable---the plate had to be balanced and pretty. But every single dinner had potatoes, or Pasta or rice.....without fail! Not to mention, there was bread on the table with every meal. Whether it was rolls, cornbread, or even just sliced bread and the butter dish close by! Now years later trying to learn to cook just a meat and a veggie or 2 and skip the high carb starches is hard! It doesn't feel like a proper meal! My DH is happy if we do no more than throw a steak on the grill and toss a salad together, he is happy----but the other part of me thinks we need to have baked potatoes (loaded of course), and veggies and dinner rolls as well. So even if you are doing nothing else, your DD is not going to grow up thinking THAT is normal and expected! She will probably go through a point she doesn't want to read labels and make good choices, but it will be there, she will know how to do it. As will my granddaughter. My DD is diligent in her efforts---as it sounds like you are...and while lap band come late in MY life she DID see me diet and give up, and diet and give up---so at least part of the time she witnessed good habits!!! Sounds to me like you are both on a great track, and the time together is a benefit! You are raising her to be a smart, informed woman....and just imagine what options lie ahead for these kids!! Kat

I am not single, I am happily married. Was happily married when I was morbidly obese, and in fact saw little if any change in his desire of me. We were good then, and are good now. What I have seen is a change in how I receive attention from other men. They meet my eye in the store, I have doors held for me, and conversations started in stores where as before, I was invisible. Now that being said, I am likely responsible for some of it. Not that I am flirty now, but in the way that I felt ashamed of myself before, I didn't look approachable, and didn't make eye contact because I didn't want to see them avoid meeting my eye, or see that they pretended not to see me. Hell they might have surprised me if given a chance, at least some....but there were too many that DID avoid looking at me for me to even want to see that again, so I avoided looking at them. Now it isn't a big deal, I have confidence that I lacked before and I think that in and of itself is attractive, and not only to men, women are friendlier as well. I find myself engaged in conversations in line at the store or at the bowling alley, or just anywhere...much more often than before. But I am also not afraid to start those conversations myself....something I did not do 100 pounds ago. I also noticed the men DH works with, they act much more shocked by the change than I thought, and he says they give him a hard time about having a new woman! I think when your confidence returns, so will your attention!!! Kat

Green needs a fill? YAY!!!!! So glad food is appealling again! As for the subject at hand. I can see it from ALL sides almost! I provide day care for my granddaughter. She is 4 and extremely tiny. Her Mama, my DD watches her weight, but has never let it get away from her yet. I was morbidly obese, and my own Mom who is still in the picture is obese, by the charts, but say a size 16/18. So our biggest issues food wise come up between my DD and my Mom. My Dad is borderline diabetic and they keep tons of artificially sweetened foods around. When my DGD was younger and they would let her eat it, it tore her little tummy up, and her bowels would be loose, which is hard for little ones to make it in time in those cases. My DD ask my Mom not to let her have all the aspertame and sorbitol, malitol stuff.....so rather than tell the DGD no, she went and bought all the full sugar versions for her! Not exactly what my DD wanted!!! It went round and round, finally my DD got a little lunch box, and back pack combo, and when she goes to Nana's (my Moms) she packs it for her--and puts in little bags of carrots, and apples, string cheese, and bags of 100 calorie microwave popcorn-because it is the right size for her. Just all kinds of OK things for her. A good assortment. And now my DGD is old enough to know that Papa's kind of candy has something like medicine in it, and it makes her sick. She loves being able to dig through her bag and choose a snack. We stock up, and let her choose as much as possible. It is as easy with her to stand in produce and let her choose what kind of she wants as it is to stand and let her pick a candy bar. I KNOW that will change with age....but our tactics will have to change as her age does I am sure! We have rewards---when she cleans up when ask the first time etc, she earns trips to the park, or to McDonalds-where she really doesn't care much about the food, but loves the play area! I KNOW it is easier with her being 4 than 12. We can only hope these lessons make some impact. She is with me everyday, she sees me exercise, she goes to the daycare at the gym with her Mom on weekends. We take her trike to the park with us. Just trying to keep her moving, not sit her in front of the TV everyday. I wonder after the dust settles, and tempers ease, if maybe a trip to the store together might be a good idea. Apparantly Mom is close enough to bring food while it is warm, the issue was the type of food and the sneak factor. Everyone working together with health in mind for the entire family as opposed to just weight for your DD is the goal, maybe there is a way to make Mom part of that. I agree to make the laptop an incentive. I bought my DD a hamster to quit chewing her nails! She still has nice nails, and the hamster only lived a couple of years! LOL We still laugh about it. We saw a woman who literally had no nails, and was gnawing on her fingers at a Christmas program, my DD whispers to me "she didn't want a hamster bad enough!" I really feel that right now is a dark zone with your childs age, she is old enough to have the ability to get food on her own, at home or at school, or through Grandma. But she is still a bit young for her own vanity to be a real strong push. I think focusing on family health, and doing physical things with her will be the best way without destroying her self confidence....little girls sense of self is often reallllly fragile. One only has to read the "Why are you Fat?" thread to see how parents and grandparents reaction to childhood obesity affects us. Good Luck to you all---hope you get it worked out together, she deserves support from all of you. And YOU deserve it from your Mom, hope she really does "get it"....wish I could say I would not have responded similarly, but criticism, even when deserved is hard to take!!! LOL Kat

Hi girls, Manda had her IV this morning and headed off to work. The steroids are already working, she is able to close her mouth, the jaw is less swollen, and the golf ball knot is now movable---where last night it was just tight swollen. She will get another IV tonight, then will rely on oral antibiotics, and the steroids for a few more days. She said she did not use the Lortab, and it being less swollen it is less tender today so she probably just wasted her $$$. I told her to put them away, you can never tell when a toothache or twisted ankle will happen, and having them will be appreciated! I was similar to Laura, the first 2 trimesters with Manda I was small....but man oh man I ballooned then!! Looked like I swallowed a beach ball! The height gives room for all the additional weight, but when the baby started growing, so did I! Heather, I got ZERO help from ER. If there is a fill center anywhere close, they will do an unfill even if you are not a patient, of course at a cost. Might be best to get DH or a good friend to take you in, I know it is 4 hours and a hard trip, but much better to be safe than sorry. Now if you cannot get liquids in, and cannot get to your Dr. so opt to wait for the clinic next week, your OB or PCP can order IV fluids on a 2X a day basis, which will keep you and the baby hydrated and with necessary nutrients. I had to do that prior to my surgery for the twisted intestine. Well Kinsey is finally ready for lunch, she is asking for grilled cheese. Man it makes me want one! Usually I can convince her to have chicken salad, or a tossed salad or soup. Today she is begging for grilled cheese. So what kind of Granny would I be if I denied her??? Judy great pic--------I notice YOU are surrounded by men......LOL You look great! You do not look like you have ever had a weight issue. Will try to catch up with everyone else in a bit....of to make a grilled cheese! Kat

They gave Manda IV antibiotics, and guess what? We are the Mother - Daughter poster people for Prednisone! Her too, to reduce the swelling in the gland and try to let it drain without having to do it surgically. She is also taking broad spectrum antibiotics orally, and was given Lortab for pain. She goes in in the morning for another IV of meds, and again tomorrow night. Then on Friday she sees the ENT and they decide if this is aggressive enough treatment. She said she would see me in the morning, she is going to work.....they said she is not contagious, it is up to how she feels. Thanks Judy! It always helps to know y'all are out there! I had fixed a pot of chicken and noodles, because it is her favorite, and I thought it would be soft for her to chew before I knew she was headed to the hospital. She come in starving, ate a big bowl and left with a big bowl to take to work. I filled another bowl for Rick to take to work, and all the offending noodles are gone! Gonna go check & see what I am missing, since email notification is down yet again! XOXOXO Kat

Yes he still owes the money by my way of thinking....but I also thought when I provided him with place of employment, SS#, home address and phone #, work address and phone #....that something would be done. I was wrong then too! On the other side of the coin, when a paternity test proves a child not to be yours it does not clear you either. Go figure... I finally quit looking for justice in an unjust world, and chose to be happy in spite of it all. To not would just let them win again! Kat

Hey looks like they are admitting Manda to the hospital. The infection in the gland is leaking and into the ear, and they are concerned about the aggressiveness of the infection, and the proximity to her brain. So she will be in with IV antibiotics. This is 3rd party relay through my Mom, she called with the news and Kinsey and I were out getting wood. So now I am just sitting waiting for them to get her a room, so we can go up. Til then I don't want to have Kinsey hanging out in the ER--which is where they are admitting her through. I will have a better idea what exactly is going on after talking to her myself. So I will check in as I can. I will have Kinsey with me. Say a prayer if you would! Kat

Ours falls on the other side of the coin in Colorado courts. Paying for a child proven not to belong to my DH......one that we do not get to see......who now lives with her boyfriend, but Mom still gets the CS. Sometimes it is a no win situation regardless which side of it you are on. I too raised a child with no CS, he is in fact on New Mexico's top 10 offenders list for non payment of his CS. I filed with the Child Support Enforcement Division back in 88, had one excuse after another....case workers come and go....finally years later, after life was good again, 10 years to be exact, I get a check for $50.00 from CSED! The next month I got one again. Then 2 weeks later I was sent a letter to return the last $50.00 that the said child was no longer a minor. Such a crappy system here! She learned the hard way what kind of man he was, and was not. Good Luck to us all dealing with it! Kat

Just cuz I love y'all, you can have my guacamole too. I make it for the family, Rick loves it, but I am allergic to avacados! The times I have had it, I have not had a serious reaction, but it breaks out the inside of my mouth in little water blisters, and they said the allergy would likely get more severe the more I am exposed. So I avoid it. I toasted coconut and pecans to mix into a streusel topping for a pie for my Dad. I made him a SF Dulce De Leche pie, and mixed the coconut with some Splenda brown sugar, flour, and butter to crumble over the top. He is borderline diabetic, and watches his sugar VERY closely. They usually have bible study at their house on Thursday, but someone had plans so they are having it tonight. When Mom does refreshments, she always makes sure he has something. So does the one couple they are such good friends with, but one of the other ladies always just bakes a cake, and then Dad has no goodies. So when he ask Kinsey and I to lunch, I thought I would make it up to give to him to take home and have tonight when everyone else has dessert. He was HAPPY! Said he doubts he will wait til tonight to taste test it though! TracyKS, I had never heard of a child with Shingles either! Did he have the chicken pox ever? Or did he get the immunization? Makes me wonder if they are going to be more common among kids with the shot. Kinsey has still never gotten her CP vaccination. Some time this year she will have to get it. They delayed ALL of her shots, she has gotten all the DPT ones I think it is---I am not sure how it is, I do know it is with the blessing of her pediatrician, and that the plan is to start the immunizations on a schedule as soon as she reaches 35 pounds. Well I guess I will go haul in some wood, it is cold out! I could be lazy and let Rick do it, but WTH, I guess exercise won't kill me...... Kat

There is still a part of me that despises Rick's voice of reason.....when it is against me, I refer to it as his voice of treason......it is especially irritating, that when it is something similar to what Heather is talking about---he used to let me know when I was baiting Manda! I admitted it and tried to learn. I really WAS responsible for some of her 17 year old smart ass attitude (imagine that!?) BUT when I try to discuss the same type of thing, like his original reaction with Abbey and the baby--he digs his heels in and is NOT changing! But to be more technically correct, he is not changing now....but he usually alters his reactions the next time. Men go figure them?! And I fully believe men, and include teenage and pre teen boys in that, DO have hormonal surges that hit them similarly to PMS. I have always said they do! I stayed up late watching TV---couldn't sleep, so slept in some this morning. Feel kinda blah..... Mom and Dad want us to go in and have a late lunch with them. They go to a local restaurant that has a HUGE salad bar, and on Wed. they have shrimp and oysters on the salad bar. My Dad and Kinsey could eat their weight in shrimp! Thank heavens she is old enough to peel her own now! But Dad has yet to make it back from his walk, so here we sit waiting....which isn't a big deal, we usually try to time it to get there after the work lunch rush. It is cold here, but we are in the upper twenties now, and supposed to make it into the high thirties. The wind is blowing tho.....and no new moisture, so that is good. I would hate to hike to the road, we did that when we lived in Utah. But my neighbors didn't like me and would not help me (I was the wrong religion for them),so I was on my own when Rick would be out of town. It sucked soooo bad! I learned how to stockpile, and I would make some wierd things for myself to eat when he was gone! Usually self comforting things....which helped with my weight issues! Anxious to see your tattoo Pamela!! I would have gone through with the violet tattoo I think had we all done it! Rick still asks me if I was the only hold out, I think he believes I used up all my bravery reserves on the river!! LOL Like Haydee I would have gone with the top of my foot area! Well I am going to go toast some coconut and pecans while I am waiting for my Dad to get home....stay warm everyone!!! XOXO Kat

If you already have an order in place, and you have to hire an attorney to deal with his idiocy over this, do not forget to ask for attorney and all related legal fees when you answer it! We hold a lien on DH's ex's house because she refused to pay our legal fees over an issue. I love the comfort of having that!!! Lulu hope all is well! Kat

Manda and I were just laughing that when her cat had 8 kittens she had to rotate them in 4 at a time, so they could all eat! Even if this woman could feed 2 at a time, her body needs time to replenish before feeding the next 2 and so on, by the time she can feed 5&6, #'s 1&2 will be hungry again. Manda said if it were her (and we are both incredibly glad it isn't!) that she would pump as much as humanly possible and add it to bottles along with formula so they would get some breast milk benefits, but still be able to thrive. Seriously it is admirable to want to do that for your children, but that is totally unrealistic! And todays formula is not like it is bad for a baby! Whereas starvation is! Manda come in tonight and tried on her costume, pretty funny! Durango CO has a HUGE winter festival week called Snowdown. This years theme is Snowdown in Da Nile....and it is all things Egyptian. Manda is Cleopatra on their float Friday night. My DD looks totally wierd in straight black hair! The part of BP she works for is a Natural Gas collection site. The float they are making is on a 16 foot flatbed truck, and has a pyramid on the front half, with a pump jack (not a drilling rig Michelle!) on the side of it, and a sphynx on the back of the float. Every time the pump jack goes down the tail of the sphynx lifts and it shoots out a cloud of steam....or farts! The side reads "BP we're all about natural gas"---it looks good! The parade is Friday night, I am hoping it warms up some, I want to take Kinsey up, but it is SOOOO crowded and it is cold out right now. So will have to see. Saturday we are going to go watch some of the races....bed and outhouse races down the ski slopes....waiter and waitress races down the road all while dressed in theme. It is a full week long event---there are fashion shows, from simple places like Dillards, to high end shows at the resort. It is sooooo much fun--they have ice sculpting and snowman contests---which are fun, they have one area children are not allowed, because they are quite elaborate and detailed and usually X rated! There is a swimming suit competition, they ski in bikinis--idiots! Should be a fun week I am glad Manda is getting involved in the float for work, but also getting into a group of people who DO things like that. She is excited. Well I have some paperwork to deal with....I HATE insurance issues! Will talk to ya later.....and Laura, I am glad you aren't having a litter either!!! Kat

We actually got a ride in not this last weekend but the one before....it was cold! We leathered up and went anyway. My stress levels were sky high, and nothing seems to help as much! Things here are going......not much change, the scale is still going up, up, up. The hives keep breaking out all over. Have had a couple of trips to the Dr. where even with the low dose daily steroids, they have been in my throat. He guarantees me the weight gain is issue with the steroids. But I know I am eating the food, I just cannot seem to stop myself. I have no control---and the more I worry about it the worse the hives get, and the longer I have the hives, the longer I keep on the steroids.....see the evil circle here???? I cannot get to my fill Dr. He is 6 hours away, over 3 mountain passes, all are snow packed, and one is totally closed due to an avalanche of snow. I would have to fly in. I pay $150.00 per fill, and to add an additional 2-3 hundred to fly....it just isn't in the budget. We are in serious cost saving mode. Ricks hours were cut back seriously, and lay offs are in the offing, so we are really trying not to spend much extra, and to cut back where we can. So to buy an airline ticket right now is not happening. I had arrangements between my Dr. and my former oncologist, she actually tried to hit my port, but I think her needle was too short. It was a huber non coring needle, but not long enough he thinks. So I got poked a few times, but no fill. So looks like I just keep getting fatter until Spring Thaw. Can you say depressed?????? It is upsetting to say the least. It is cold here, but just a skift of snow last night. It was finally drying up so I could get to the barn and ride without spending hours cleaning hooves.....and now it is pushing in another storm!! New grandson is ok I guess, we don't get to see him often.....the appointment thing is not happening! We also found out we have another grandbaby coming in August. Our son and his wife have a little boy,Connor who will be 3 in March, and they are having another. That one I will get to see without an appointment! Well sorry I have been MIA.....I have been a slug, and not exercising. Thinking seriously about doing the 5 day pouch test, just to maybe jump start my own enthusiasm again. Til then, guess I'll have another Diet Dr. Pepper! Sherry, hope you are healing from your fall. I fell in the wood shed not long ago. Just kinda hurt my wrist, and my ego! Y'all take care, and I will check back in. Kat

Terry you used to only see Peeps out at Easter, now they make them for other holidays as well. They come in multi packs of yellow chicks, pink bunnies etc. They are solid marshmallow, with a slightly crispy (I think it is just the food color paint) outside. They come packaged flat and each stuck to one another.....never could figure out how to put them in the kids baskets without putting the entire package in whole, if you open them the Easter grass sticks to the Peeps. Especially where the Peeps were attached to each other. Nah--------y'all can have 'em. I'll get my sugar fix in other ways....there are sooooooo many other ways!!! Chocolate Easter Bunnies just waiting to have their ears bit off! Dove Chocolate Eggs, Reeces Peanut Butter Eggs, Cadbury Eggs, Malted Milk Eggs, Mounds & Almond Joy Eggs......the list goes on. I'll leave all the Peeps and jelly beans for someone elses Easter Basket! Still bumming, and Rick is freaking out over it, he keeps calling to see if I am ok. I want to scream NO, but I am I guess. Kat

Well Violets I am home with no fill. The oncology office who was going to attempt it, with consent of my Dr...he supplied the huber needles. But she could not hit it. I have many pokes, and no fill. And looks like I won't til spring melt. By then I will be back to my original weight. I am sooooooo depressed. TracyK--I did PT for my herniated disc as well. It is still herniated, but has receeded 30%, and the nerve pathways regrow in a 2 year period he said, and I believe it, it has made a difference. I faithfully do my stretches, and weight loss helped....which I am slowly undoing. Pamela you can have my Peeps. Laura you can have my gummies. But I will keep my chocolate! Good thing I have none in the house the way I feel right now. I have never relied on clearing the house of everything, I have always had some willpower to me, now I just feel totally worthless---like I am too weak to be believed! The issue with my band Dr. is location. He is 3 mountain passes--all snowpacked, but one totally closed due to avalanche away. My only option is to fly in, and with the hour cut and feared lay offs, that is not an option. I pay $150.00 for the fill anyway, and adding another $2-3 hundred for a flight out is just not happening. I am in cost savings mode, not spending. Not sure what my next step is. One thing for sure, crying has not helped a bit. She was going to talk with him in more depth when they both were not with patients, and see what he suggested. She thinks she feels it, and perhaps the needle is too short. Huber needles come in several lengths, and they have always used a really long one for me. So maybe we can try that I don't know. Jenn I can't believe you frostbit the tops of your feet and not your toes, I always hear of guys in the field here getting their toes. But never the TOP of the foot! When they are here walking around in icy conditions, and their steel toed boots get cold, it holds the cold in. I have went with Rick to the hospital to see a couple of guys who froze their feet, when they walked through liquid nitrogen without realizing it! There is often a lot of steam involved in the job due to the temp differences, so when it rolls around the ground....it is not normal steamy conditions. Neither one of them lost their feet, but I would bet they have trouble with them forever. I don't know if I told you about my cousin being pregnant. She has a DD 3 months younger than Kinsey. She lost 6 babies before having her DD. They could never find exactly what the problem was, then she just sailed through with her DD and had no issues at all. The baby was fine, good sized, no problems during delivery. They were ecstatic! She was 36 when she was born. She lost another baby after her DD. She went to the chiro after that because she thought she had a pinched nerve, she had tingling in her legs. X rays were fine-they finally discovered it was MS. She has been treating the MS with injections, first daily, now weekly, and is doing well with it. All the meds sent her into what the Dr.'s said was an early pre menopausal type of thing. At her appointment a few months ago, they found her to be pregnant again! She is 40, with MS and pregnant....with twins. A boy and a girl. Dr. said all looks fine. She is due late in May. If anyone can handle anything life throws at them it is her....sure do hope all goes well for them all. She is a respiratory therapist. Her DH is a school councelor, and a nice guy....but you would never take him for her husband . He is far more feminine in many, many ways than she is! And she is pretty girlie herself! But i f he makes her happy, all is good. Well I am going to go fins something to do to occupy my mind. I feel like wailing and throwing things, so gonna try to find something else! Talk to ya later. Kat

I'm here, all is well. Manda got home middle of the night, so she spent part of the day with us when she come after Kinsey. Who was REALLY happy to see her Mama!! Rick was off.....so it was a lazy morning. Then we hit the Dollar Movie this afternoon. A local radio station sponsors a different movie every Monday, they are at 102.1---so they technically charge $1.02----but they always just charge a buck. Today's movie was The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Was a good movie, but lack of sleep had me soooo tired, it felt like it moved kinda slow to me. I liked it, but was ready for it to end, if that makes any sense. Well my needles come in---so my fill is tomorrow morning. YAY!!!

LJM---that's right! when I read what you typed I remembered my Dr. saying that exact thing! Wow! I knew he said stuff, didn't remember what all! LOL Glad you knew--refresh my memory!!! Kat

Living in a border town to the largest Navajo Indian Reservation, I am not so sure they survived any better off than yours. Many of the issues they deal with today are left over issues from years ago. A HUGE percentage are alcoholics. They do not sell alcohol on the reservation, so they come off and then attempt to drive home, leaving the reservation as well as our state with astronomical DWI rates. Their diets are so poor, that the diabetes and obesity rates are seriously over 70%! It is a difficult situation for ALL involved. And anyone thinking that racism is going away, only need to visit a reservation border town.....sad but true. The Navajos are a religious people now, what the beliefs were originally besides a worship of Mother Earth, I do not know------it is not something they share willingly. There is a high percentage of LDS among the Navajo. I KNOW their ancestors were mistreated----many of our ancestors were...... How to "fix" that now? I have no idea----living where I do, seeing how things are, I know the way it is it isn't working!! Kat

Wow I was told the orgasm -- labor info by a OB/GYN!!!! I am sure times have changed, but I do know something worked, I was 2 weeks overdue---and scheduled for induction!!! LOL was fun anyway! I still say try it, I know I am not the only one it has triggered!!! Kat

I thought we'd sung a duet on the subject before!!! Kat