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Yeah my DH said the Lovenox burned like fire. But hey not very many things that cause pain bring such results as a baby!!! Yeah Carrie, that might be why they keep it quiet, I just find it sad that the general public would ostracize someone for health issues such as that. I was/am the opposite, I told everyone about my band! I finally found something that worked and give me hope, and was like a kid with a new toy!!

David Cassidy is supposed to play an aging rock star---who was once a teenage heart throb, and is now reduced to playing casino lounges etc. He unknowingly fathered a DD during his fame, and now he is left to raise her. With his wierd schedule they live or she lives (cannot remember what I read) with his brother, played by none other than his brother!!! And yes it is produced by the 3rd brother. But it is said to kind of poke fun at himself. I thought he and Bobby Sherman were both to die for when I was young......haven't seen or heard about Bobby Sherman in years. Even thought I should have been named Julie for his song!!! Off to eat mexican food with the DH---see y'all!

Carrie, I understand it being uncomfortable hearing bad about someone you like--I really do. And I know bad has been said about both. The difference I see, is that is seems Britney is openly trying to make changes---and I hope she succeeds, and raises healthy happy boys. The reference I personally made to her was in regards to a suspected blood disorder, and that as a celebrity that possibly she felt a need to hide it. When it is something she has no control over if she does have it. I mentioned it in comparison to MJ's having vitiligo for instance, why would his fans desert him over a health issue like that? There was in the beginning and is still out there somewhere, a thread where the OP ask for no negativity in regards to MJ's death. This was started by someone who respectfully did not disrupt the other thread, she titled it so everyone would know if hearing or reading negativity in relation to MJ---then do not read this thread. From there, the thread has hit on lots of subjects!! But back to your post----everyone DOES make mistakes, I think the issue arises when someone does not try to correct or change things. In your admiration of BS---it is standard tabloid information that she is making great strides in getting her life and her career back on track---good for her! I sincerely hope she succeeds! She has 2 of the cutest little boys around, they deserve to have good parents!

I am up, and off to buy a bassinet. For my newest grandson to be. Should be fun---on a Saturday! YUCK! Oh well could not be helped. Glad you finally slept Tap, I did too----went back to bed after DH left for work (feels so wicked to do it, but I LOVE it!!!) and slept like a log for another 2 hours! g4e---I remember making the change back into button/zip pants from the elastic ever growing ones I wore. At first it was difficult, come evening, I wanted my comfort back! Now if I try to wear anything with elastic--like my work out style pants or capri's somewhere, I hate it, I have no pockets! Congrats on fitting into them! I am stuck in my old clothes. I want back into my 8's but apparantly not bad enough, because I am not wearing them! Thankfully I had not gotten rid of the 10's yet, because I have been in them all summer......someone needs to kick me in the butt! Well I am off to fight the shopping crowds....at least it is not the first of the month. Wish me luck!

I'm up, dressed and procrastinating!!! I am actually going to go see about finding a bassinet for the new grandson to be. They have a small home, and it would be nice for them to save some space for awhile. They are looking to buy a double wide mobile home to put on our property out there, which would do them nicely for now, and is an affordable option, when compared to building. We have the property--so that is no charge, it would just be the home, and the one they are looking at is nice, 2400 sq.ft. and under $70K. That would keep payments managable. Becky wants them to look at one her co worker has, she says it is in wonderful shape, they did the same thing, bought it, lived in it for 2 years as they built a new home---and are wanting to sell it, and she offered it to Becky for her son at like $50K---but her son cannot afford that PLUS land.....so hopefully they will soon have room to spare, but for now could use a smaller sleeping station for the new baby. So that is my goal today. Speaking of......guess I better get going. Seez ya later!

Following DH's heart valve surgery, we gave him Lovenox shots for several weeks along with coumadin by mouth. We gave his shots in the belly----do you still give them in the belly being pregnant??? I know 2 other people who did blood thinners throughout their pregnancies---both have healthy daughters, will hope for similar outcome for you!! Thanks for sharing the progress. I have a new grandson due any time. He has dropped and his head is engaged! YAY!!

Hey rambling Jane!!! Can you check on the price for that lotion you sent me so I can get you a check off and get some! Please! Keep the weight in mind so I can afford to get it here! LOL I love that stuff! BB--Rick is finally getting home....

:cool2: Do we only get to choose one???

Heya girls! Crazy day at work. Had a patient call and tell us he was bringing a guy in with something in his eye---so I set up a tray and room for a foreign body removal--kinda excited, I like the gory stuff! He gets there, and he has part of a tree sticking out of his head! He had a small limb, large twig, whatever---embedded in his eye socket! But it had not penetrated the eye ball itself, but was holding it open, and was beyond wierd looking! He was walking with a metal detector trying to find his septic lines, and walked into a tree limb! Our office is around the corner from the hospital, so we sent him with the Dr. to the ER! Then we are behind schedule, so this afternoon a regular patient comes in and she says she began seeing flashes of light, and dark spots, and now it is black mostly like a page has been turned down on her vision. Sure enough she has a detaching retina. The Dr. is telling her how it is good she come right in, as the quicker it is caught the better the reattachment success is. Then she tells us, well it happen this morning, but I had women coming for bridge, and finally it began bugging me so bad I had to tell them and quit, and they insisted I come in. HELLO??? where is your brain???? That threw us further behind. I was supposed to be off at 2, and it was actually 4! Rick is still not home tho, so it could be worse. Back when my DD was married to the E-tech at Rick's place of work, he told us to avoid their direct deposit, that he is always hearing of them ripping people off. So we had always relied on paper checks---in person. Well that is no longer an option, it is direct deposit, or the debit card. So we went with direct deposit. I log on to the bank account this morning to check if it hit....and there was a part of his check......they paid him for 21 hours. He worked 41 and then had a 40 hour week of vacation.....but they only paid him for 21......why? no one knows yet, it is being looked into to see where the problem is, but it will likely just come in on his next check. BS direct deposit the right amount----we are expecting 80+ hours and got 21......I have managed to stay out of the savings for months now....for this! GRRRRR Guess I will go find something to make for dinner. Was hoping Rick would get home in time to go out, but that is looking less and less likely....waaaaah! See y'all in a while....yeah there is a space there--you know what a while is!!! Just longer than a bit!

How can she have sex? She ate the chicken!!!! And Pool Girl of course she was snarky with you---all your parts are ancient, and no longer work. I should know, mine must be too. ps.....don't tell hubby yet he is under the impression they still work! OK, there is a problem with Pool Girl tho.....the name is long to type, and PG is taken!!! Guess you will have to be Tpg!! J/k We had a wild day at work too. I get a call from a patient that he is bringing in a co worker who has something in his eye. So I begin moving appointments some and set up for a foreign body removal---the guy gets there, and he looks like he has a tree in his head, there is a small branch firmly imbedded in his eye socket, but not truly through the orb of the eye. We are like a block and a half from the hpsp. but he comes there! We sent him on over! LOL Then this afternoon was flowing smooth, and in walks a patient and she has a detaching retina----she said she began seeing bright flashes and then dark spots, and now it looks like a page folded in half. So the Dr, tells her it is good she come in right away because the earlier they can catch it, the better they retain after reattachment, and she tells us, well it happen early this morning, but I had bridge, and it got to bothering me too bad so I left. IDIOTS!!! Through my day way behind, I am supposed to get off at 2 on Friday---got out just before 4. But DH is still not home from work, so it will be ok! Hope everyone is feeling much better today......in spite of some of us having reallllllllly old and non functioning sexual organs!!! LMAO-------oh dear, ya think I laughed more than my a$$ off????

LOL some people will just never get it I guess..... So back to topic..... Night before last I had heard on the news that they did a crack down bust on this park in a small town just north of us, because there were people having sex in the bushes etc. They knew it was prostitutes etc. So they did this bust. It hit the news this morning, one of the "girls" arrested----was a city councelors wife! So now the whole dynamic of the story changed from them being worthless humans doing something horrid, to how many of them have problems and need help. I find it sad that if not for the one woman who was known---they would have been all made out to be horrible, when they are the exact same women, with or without her among them.

When my 2 oldest were in braces----now this was NOT following the initial installation of the torture devices---they would get an adjustment, and they would chew SF bubble gum for about an hour after, and they said sometimes it hurt like crazy, but it got them past the pain, they ate normally from there. The youngest, she lived on mac & cheese, and mashed potatoes for days on end, could not do the gum route!!! Off to work.....see y'all tonight.

HH, I did not want to branch off in a whole different direction, but you are right. There is a place near here, a town now called Shiprock. There is a huge ragged rock the town was built around, and the ancients believe that it once sailed and brought some of their people to the area. Honestly I do not know the exact story---the language gets so mixed, and they have no words to translate it completely to where us non natives understand. But it does all tie in, and several of the Morman churches on the reservation hold it in high enough regard to have times to clean the area, and hold celebrations --- and it is held highly sacred by the tribe, we are not talking chidrens birthday parties!! I don't find it lessens my beliefs to listen to, understand and support the Navajos in theirs. Or any other person or belief, it does not mean I am a follower myself! The Dr. I work for is Nigerian, and he has blended the faith he was raised with, with what he has developed over the years here in America. Seldom have I ever come across anyone with a stronger faith in action tho. He lives his life helping others. He works 6 days a week, he ministers to the local jails, he gives services away literally every day I work, to those who would otherwise do without. His beliefs may not align themselves with mine 100%---but he LIVES in what I consider a Christian way---who am I to judge whether his beliefs or mine are "right"??

That's what it boiled down to with Manda over Lindzie being dangerous for Kinsey to be around. There were other problems without a doubt, but it was the final decision maker for Manda. I understand where you are Trac....take care, utilize the couselor. See y'all in the morning!

hiding my head in shame....cuz I did too!!!

You know Rod, I always thought the whole "walk a mile in their shoes" phrase, was so that you could understand what made them do certain things. For instance, if you had snapped someones head off the day your son had surgery, if we were in your shoes, we would have known WHY you were in a different mood. To walk a mile in MJ's shoes, no matter what the issue, would not answer some of the questions we all have --- unless one of the stops in those shoes were at a dealers house or something! I mean, what experience or what mood are you in to hang your infant son over a balcony? What pushes you to continue to allow children in your private areas in your home, when it has already caused problems? These are the things I wonder about. The plastic surgery, I honestly feel was a mental thing, I think he like many of us suffered from a body dysmorphia issue, and he probably never truly saw himself as he was becoming. And the drugs---the problem with them, is once you begin, you are often unable to make a straight decision again. Which is why so many are addicted, famous and not famous. My brother had an addiction to alcohol, and it took a forced time out (aka jail time) for him to be forced into sobriety, and to stay that way long enough to realize he had reasons to stay that way. He has a brain injury from years ago, and he just never sobered up long enough prior to be arrested, to figure out that it was a SERIOUS problem! When the drugs are always there and available, and you can even have a Dr. there to get and give them....doesn't seem like a lot of hope going straight. Those issues I can I suppose relate to, feel I HAVE walked in those shoes. But the others.....no desire to walk in them, as I cannot see any way to rationalize them. One thing for sure, the story is not going away any time soon......

Even if the Doc gave him something within legal means, who knows what he had self medicated with that the Doc knew nothing about. But walk a mile in his shoes??? Don't think I'd wanna go where those shoes would take me!

Thanks Kartman. I dearly love my nephews, and I know with their insight into the problems they faced, they will make a difference in this world! My oldest nephew is on his way to becoming a pediatrician. The younger who has yet to graduate high school (this next year!) is undecided---his artistic ability is phenomenal tho! Patty with all due respect, you have no idea of what gate I am headed for------I truly believe the same can be said of you. While you claim to not be judging each of us, you leave each of us who have claimed it, feeling judged by you and found to be less worthy than yourself, and that is not a Christian attitude, in any way shape or fashion. And yes, I fully realize by stating that, I am putting myself in the same position, the difference is I recognize it. It is one thing to claim to be a sinner, and another to want to change that status. I believe if I can be loving, supportive, and kind to people and show them how much better their lives can be through a relationship with the Lord it is a much more positive and likely way to lead them to their own relationship with him, than to threaten them with entering the wrong gate and landing in hell. But it takes all kinds, and maybe your ways will work for some, they would not work for me.

Sad to say I would rather go to work than deal with this nonsense all day!!!! Patty, think what you want, and do your best to defend what you think you do or don't say. Just think about this. There are many of us on this board who see you say (type) things and insinuate things, are we ALL seeing the wrong thing come from you? Where are the droves supporting the same things you say? All of us on one thing or another agree with you and with others, but you insist YOU are right.....and I simply choose to disagree....and gladly head off to work.

Something I used to tell my kids....one embraced it from the beginning, she was NEVER a follower!! She always was unique---marched to the beat of a different drummer so to speak. The other DD and DS were always wanting to be just like everyone else. Now they are both in their late 20's with kids, and are FINALLY getting it!! LOL

LOL Haydee, I so feel your issues, I cannot even size my pics, so do not post them!! TracyKS--it took a long time for me to realize who loved me the most, was my family and close friends, and they simply wanted me to be happy and safe. And when I listened to them, heard what they had been saying for years!!! They ALL were against me getting married when I married the abuser.... and they all tried to get me to fight to keep things together with Rick the first time around. I did not listen to them either time! Rick and I were together when our kids were tiny, but he got a grant to go to school in Denver, and my divorce made it to where I had to get permission to take Manda out of the county, and her Dad refused to let me move....and I thought it unfair to Manda to take her away from all family. Now to hear her, she would have been with the only family who mattered!! Live and learn....... Of course one different move, and life would have turned out differently---and I am pretty ok with where it is now, so I will live with the decisions made! Point is----listen to those who love you! They are likely thinking with a much clearer head than you right now. (((hugs))) to you as you plow your way through the muck ahead. Tracy---off to the gym, ice cream out of the house. All good moves. I am stalled. I am down 3.5 pounds for the month, and the scale has not moved in days.....grrrrrrrr. I need to DO more, but just don't wanna! It is hot outside when I get home, and I am lazy! I have laundry going, the dishwasher going, the bed changed.....and need to be up vaccuming or a dozen other chores I usually do today----especially if we go camping! Still no decision there. Will check in after I get a few more things done, see what y'all are up to!

We aren't supposed to have addictions like theses???? Oh crap......

So even though they too(speaking of Native American Indians here) were created by God, without us, they never would have known that? Would they have been punished by being sentenced to hell for not knowing God as we present him? Are infants and small children who do not know the God YOU believe in, punished as well? Back to the Native American aspect-------I live in New Mexico, in a border town to one of the largest Indian reservations....commonly referred to as the Rez. Prejudice runs rampant in both directions. There are those in all races that hate the others simply because they were born of a different race....like we all had a choice what we were born as! There are times I hate where I live, because of this. Most times I love the diversity. Within the Navajo people, there is a wide variety of beliefs, and different religions followed. There is a STRONG Mormon following among the Navajos. Patty, you have yet to elaborate on the book of Morman. In an earlier post, you stated that if we all lived by the Bible we would be in Utopia. While most of us disagree, with it being a Biblical thing, we all can agree on the premise of treating one another the way you want to be treated would make the world a better place. The Native Americans I live around, had their own beliefs, and they try to tell us about them---of their worship of the land, and living in harmony with one another, and the land. I do not understand how God is going to punish them for living in this manner. There were many Indians who lived and died before we come to America with our beliefs---did those that died before knowing to pray for salvation, automatically go to hell? I have nephews who are both half Navajo---and while one would think that as time goes by things would improve, it is not so! They are rejected by the tribe because of their white blood. It has not been a real issue until they have become older, and now both want to leave the area. To date is an issue with them! Navajo families do not want their daughters dating them because they have a white mother. Yet to look at them, one would never know that, so when one of them shows up to pick up a date.....the white girls family is not approving either! The oldest one, is dating a girl who is the same mix he is! I have learned so much about customs and beliefs from them, and the things they bring home from the Navajo family. Their Great Grandma, is classic---she speaks very little English, she wears traditional clothing, and is sweet as the day is long.....and she LOVES to tell you about tradition, and tries to teach her ways to the boys. Is God going to punish them for listening, and perhaps agreeing or believing in the ancient teachings of their people??? These things make no sense to me.....I cannot see it cut and dried like you do Patty and it upsets me to think that the God you and others like you want me to follow would be like you portray him. I hope you are wrong...... I believe in God, don't get me wrong, I do not believe in a vengeful God, but a forgiving one. The relationship we have is OURS----not for YOU to decide. YOU---and not even the book we are currently discussing can tell me whether I get into heaven----that is between me and God...nothing else. THAT is my belief. Now you may THINK I am going to hell with that belief, but thankfully YOU don't get to make that decision, and the things you quote and pull from articles are no more than your or some other authors opinions, of no more value to anyone than mine. I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and find out there is not, than to live as if there is not, and find out there is......as they say.

Ok, I am old, and maybe someone should take me to see an eye Dr. But I cannot make out what exactly the centerpieces are.........looks like tall glass cylinders, filled with what?????? Rick wants to go camping this weekend....I want to stay home and hit the rodeo, this is the first year it is here we are not actively involved in volunteering. With me working it was not going to be possible----but I still wanna go. But I also understand his want to get away from it all......oh the dilemma!!! See y'all in the morning, I go in late tomorrow!

Due to a shake up at work, we are short handed, and I am now doing some fill in, and part of that is getting patients info and doing a blood pressure, and a screening before they go in to see the Dr. It is sooooooo wierd to me to touch all those people!! And it is just their arm! I touch my DH and my grandkids all the time. I hug my parents hello and goodbye, as well as my inlaws, each time I see them. But they are all familiar. Strangers.....feel strange!!! LOL And NO ONE has to remind me to wash my hands! Too wierd, will be glad when I get back to my lab, and papers, and leave the humans to someone else, unless it is a procedure I am gloved for!! LOL Beth, I almost missed it, but Happy Birthday Girl! Hope it was happy!!! And just for good measure.....here is a big ol' birthday ((((((hug))))))