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Hey girls~ Thanks for welcoming Michelle, she will be a great addition, she has turned into a good friend here on LBT! Rick is down with the flu too. He began feeling bad while we were out cutting wood, and actually quit before normal, and within minutes of being home, be began vomitting, and he could not swallow his own saliva without it coming back up. About 9 last night, it settled down, and he has kept liquids down, but he is still feverish, and sleeping. I am so freaking paranoid of getting what he has, I cannot imagine my band surviving the heaving he was dealing with. Dry heaves, and lap band does not seem like a good mix. Let me tell you how sick my husband is......when we back the truck up to unload the wood, he moves his chopper out of the shed, and onto the front sidewalk to give us more move around room. He moved it out, backed the truck in and was in the bathroom, and has been down for the count ever since. Not only did he let me do the unloading--I had the kids for help--but his chopper is STILL on the sidewalk! Seriously----his baby spent the night outside! And remains there still! He IS sick! I am heading to the grocery store, I figure his parents will be stopping by any time, and I do not want to be gone then! I already fail in so many ways at being a good wife for him, heaven forbid I leave him alone when he is sick!! OK, they are not really mean to me, but she is SOOOOO judgemental, and she WOULD without a doubt he put out if I were gone! LOL See y'all later....will likely spend the day here waiting for my Sunday shows premiers tonight----yay!!!!

Off to the forrest here girls.....another weekend of cutting wood. I just want to be done! I keep telling myself it is good exercise....but it is also exhausting, and my leg is just now easing up from the hit it took last week!!! We have been below freezing 2 times so far. Was in the lower 30's this morning. Now it will go up to the 80's through the afternoon! EVERYONE ends up with sinus infections and crap during this change due to the drastic changes, and all the germs floating around with school starting. I am trying to learn names, but I am pathetic!! Anyway--so sorry to hear about the H1N1 diagnosis! We have a local school closed with 60% out with illness. It is on the reservation, and they are supposed to be among the first to receive the vaccination. I hold my breath at work, and wipe everything on a regular basis!!! I live with the Oust, and Clorox wipes at hand!!! Well kids are showing up.....means it is time to go. Oh yeah, my DS was in an accident yesterday, stressed the you know what out of me (no weight lost tho!!!). He is fine, just upset. He got ticketed, and claims he was not at fault so is fighting it. See y'all soon. Been taking a mini break, trying to process all the crap from the PJTP thread, and not get involved. Had nothing to do with any of y'all. I will do my best on the challenge, but not holding lots of hope!!! LOL This re losing the weight seriously sucks!! BYE

hey y'all-----I'll be back, but it is midnight here, and I have a long day of cutting and hauling firewood tomorrow, so I am off to bed. See ya soon. If you are waiting for info on G4E from me, please PM me and let me know I have not got you informed yet please....I should have made a list of who I contacted and who I didn't.....but I didn't! So now I have no clue. Let me know!

Hi girls~ A listener, not a talker....huh! Tell my DH! Love the shoes Haydee! Heather I would love to meet you too! Laura, I do the same with the mod stuff---and I rode the fence in this disaster. I refuse to say more! LOL As for the Moms and the kids---do either of your Moms read much? Maybe a couple of books on enabling, and the written word of someone else, reiterating what you have been saying....otherwise I have no idea. My parents finally did just like Terry with my brother. He got arrested for DWI, and in the holding cell, he had a seizure, well come to find out, he had been trying to quit drinking, and with his brain injury and the detoxing, he was having seizures. He was unconcious in his truck, not passed out from alcohol. But they made the choice NOT to remove him from the charges, and allowed the charge to be changed to DUI (driving under the influence as opposed to driving while intoxicated) which could cover driving while taking Tylenol even! It caused him to get a mandatory jail sentence of 28 days, and he could receive medical aid while detoxing. They knew he wanted to quit, but with the brain injury, it messes with his short term memory, and makes quitting harder than even normal. They thought with 28 days sobriety, maybe it would "take". It did, he has been sober for many years now. But it was hard, my parents both aged seriously, visiting their son in jail was not something they ever planned to do. But it was better than visiting him at the funeral home, or in prison from causing an accident that hurt someone else or killed him. Hard choices, but worth it. BTW Laura, I am sending you a PM with info on Gone4ever. She met up with you for the formula. She just got a cancer diagnosis, and is facing a really hard time. Another weekend of wood cutting coming up, then WE are done. Still have to haul for the in laws. NOT a happy subject with me. What's new??!!! DS had an accident today----he got ticketed, and he says it was not his fault, so guess he will fight it in court. Stressed us for awhile. Well I am off to bed. See you all soon.

Quick stop in to say hi. We had a late softball game, and did not have enough people show up (men) to make a team--had to forfeit! HATE that! Yes, I know it was cold....I WAS THERE! Morons! Yes, I know it was a late game...I WAS THERE! Idiots! Yes, I know you have to work tomorrow, so do I, yep you got it....I WAS THERE!!! What's another good one...a$$wipes!!! LOL, I am on a roll here! Actually I'm not, I am off to bed! Been chaos with moderating here, thinking of dropping that, and just going away to FB for awhile, things here have been a bit disappointing. Not you guys, the site in general. If I wanted to be around childish behaviour all the time, I would still be doing daycare. I come home today to 56 emails----and most of them, wanting me to take sides in something I am not involved in, and trying to "guilt" me into supporting one side against another. Oh well, maybe it will calm down. Guess nothing stays the same....have to say it does suck tho! I am off to bed, I have had enough for one hump day, home the down hill slide is smoooooth!

Got drama in another thread and having to deal....miss y'all!!! Off to work. Late game tonight.

For many years I raised my DD as a single parent, she and I were extremely close---happy to say all these years later we still are-but anyway..... She hooked up with this kid, and I liked him ok in her sophmore year of high school, and she was with him from then on out. He was a year ahead of her, and had enlisted his junior year, to go to the Army upon graduation. This was late 90's----pre 9/11. She decided her junior year to pull her credits and graduate early! She still amassed a pretty good amount of scholarship $$$---then she come to me and told me she had to get married. We had that talk! In the end, they found out he was headed "overseas" and the only way she could go was if they were married. So they married. His overseas draw ended up being in Hawaii! They were there for several years. She used most of her scholarship money, and got her education. Point being.....while this was pre 9/11----it was also pre pocket size free long distance cell phones. Pre on line banking for the average Joe Blow. There was internet---but this was a poor newlywed couple living in a horribly expensive place---and they would NOT accept help. I went from having her as my daughter, and best friend, by my side, and in my face every single day to not seeing her again for a year! With outreageous phone bills we survived it, then things worked out at DH's job, where we could actually go see her. I feel your pain. I remember it! I followed a little sportscar home from work yesterday with the license plate reading MTNESTR..... took me a few to figure it out, empty nester. I did not buy a sportscar. I bought plane tickets as often as I possibly could!!! Glad to have her close again.....but miss the vacations! Another FREEZING morning here! Well almost, it was 33. And will get into the 80's before the day is out. I never know how to dress! Thankfully this time of extremes is short lived! Better go paint my face!!

Heart---I was totally unfilled when I had my TT. My band Dr. is 6 hours away---and the fear was if I suffered any nausea post op, with an incision the size of the TT incision, and such a long drive---along with the travel/blood clot issues following surgery, it was thought to be safer to do a total unfill. I never went back to get filled! I managed my weight just fine, ate like I did when I was banded---and all was well. For a year----maintained without issue, actually even lost a few more pounds. Then STRESS come on in major ways, combined with steroids, and in the blink of an eye---almost 40 pounds jumped back at me! LOL So off I went and am back with a small fill---was actually done late Spring I think. And most of the added weight is gone, but it is much harder this time it seems like! So....unfill does not mean automatic weight gain. I have heard lots of people say the unfill allowed them to eat healthier proteins and raw veggies etc. We'll be here to help keep you in line! If I get an address from Paula or her DD tomorrow, I will send it out in PM to those who want to help cheer her. My heart breaks for her. When I was dealing with my thyroid tumor I know I lived in mortal fear of coping with chemo again---to actually face it is more than I can comprehend. I am a fighter and would fight it again, I just know the crushed feeling she must be facing now. And she has let us in on the hardships she is facing financially, and her back----her plate is REALLY full right now. Ya know IF I had been born independently wealthy rather than so startlingly beautiful (LMAO) I would be right there helping. I am off to bed, I have an earache from hell.

I just spoke with Paula's DD, and it is cancer again. She said the family has been reeling, but Paula has not been off the pain meds enough yet for it to truly sink in with her. The Dr is supposed to talk to the family tomorrow--let them know what stage or what the plan is. She said she will be released tomorrow, and would try to have her call me. I ask if maybe we could get an address so we could send her cards etc. since she is off line. Will post what I hear.

Ebony----girl I am soooo proud of you! Onederland! You have worked so hard at it, and succeeded in spite of the problems you are dealing with in your home life, and work life. What an accomplishment!!! I am so happy for you! I just got off the phone with G4E's SIL---and from what I could understand he said the tumor was cancerous---but it was a little difficult understanding him, his accent and mine did not mesh! He said his wife, G4E's DD is in the shower and would call me back with info on her Mom, and I will be back and post it. Tell ya what tho----I have had the DX of cancer, and if she is dealing with it again, my heart goes out to her----and it puts all this in perspective for me. And BTW---clone me??? Heaven AND my DH forbids it!!! LOL What a nightmare that could be! I have to laugh thinking of the Michael Keaton movie, Multiplicity. Wonder what personality traits would come forth in the clones??!! Will be in touch when I hear from G4E's DD.

I did not save them, nor would I share them without consent, but I can attest to many reports of posts concerning HH--which is what began this chaos in the first place. I did not respond to them at the time, because just as this happen yesterday, I read them after I get home from work, and was hours behind the complaint. I am also honest enough to admit, that I for one knew I was not "quick" enough to get into a verbal sparring match with HH or with many of those involved in the ordeal!! I am not a dummy---I simply always think of the perfect thing to say----long after the perfect time to say it has passed. I saw other mods handling it, and moved on. To be completely truthful here, I did not even read what was being said, just saw that they were on it, and moved on. I did not follow it close enough to see moved or removed posts. The only thing I DID see was the email notifications we get as mods when a post is reported. Whether it is reported for language, selling Nikes (or whatever) or if it is a picture someone finds offensive--we receive the complaint. Many I click on when I get home, the thread has been closed---the selling things for instance, so to see a message that a thread was closed is not unusual for a Mod that comes upon the situation late. I am NOT making excuses for myself or anyone else, as I cannot talk for anyone besides myself, but this is part of the problem I hear members complaining about, is no mods being around. And I'm not. I would like to say I will change that, but there does not seem to be a liklihood of that for at least a few more weeks. When softball ends, I will have an extra hour or so in the evenings, but I will still be at work all day and I am not in a job that I can even check in with LBT through the day. When I sign out here in a few minutes--and I DID get up early to check in here(!!!!!) I will be gone til after work, with no idea what happens through the day. This place has definitely been a benefit to me in more ways than I can convey. I get great help with not only my band, but have made friendships that have carried over into real life. It is a place to vent to others who understand, that I might eat ice cream for dinner then bitch because I gained weight--they commiserate, but also provide the kick in the pants I need. I cannot get that elsewhere. I will be glad to do what I can to get that back.....

Wow, I went to work, then to a ballgame, and come home to 15 pages---and in all honesty I am totally overwhelmed. I am a VERY uninvolved mod. I admit that, I warned Alex that I would be when approached about it. I am not very computer savvy, and therefore leave the deleting posts and moving posts to other mods. I have spent most of my time as a mod welcoming new bandsters. Well to be honest, I USED to. Then I went back to work full time. I seldom do more than check in with my friends here and on a few other select threads. Very likely you are right, and I need to step aside as a mod, simply because I am not around and able to do the job as I once was.

Is there a way to let it learn the hsa as opposed to the has? I mean with the spell check you can choose a proper spelling or allow it to learn the word---or something to that effect. I know it NEVER liked me typing y'all. So now it knows it!!! LOL Off to work today. Not really looking forward to it. I am tired. Two days cutting wood is not days off. My leg hurts. We ate too late last night, and I drank a diet DP, and between the caffeine and the food, I did not sleep well. I am just simply cranky this morning! Hope Bobs hand eases, the swelling is the worst, as soon as it quits swelling the throbbing should ease. Poor guy! Is he keeping it elevated a good part of the time? Being a hand that hangs like they do (!) is going to make it tend to swell more I would think. OUCH. Gotta go, clock says so......grrrrr

Well, I'd love to say I resisted the ice cream calling me.....but I make it a policy to never lie to friends..... Calling it a night....not even 10 and I am wiped out. Got hit in the leg with a log yesterday---it did not break the skin, and it is HUGE and purple! It was more swollen yesterday--felt like it would feel better if the skin HAD popped, the pressure in it was unreal, and it looked like I had a balloon under the skin. I have scrawny legs anyway, and the log hit right on my shin bone---damn near reduced me to tears...settled for bad, really bad words! Today it is just extremely colorful! Looks like long pants for me for work, no capris! G'night all.

Slims BP is close to normal. The systolic, (top number) is in fact normal. The diastolic )bottom number) is slightly elevated---WITH medication. So in my experience of years on BP meds, a change may be in order, they use different types of meds to alter each reading-------they can use beta blockers, or Calcium channel blockers, or simple diuretics---for example to lower certain aspects of the blood pressure. Mine was the same way, it was ALWAYS my diastolic reading that was high. As I lost my weight, I was eventually taken off of one pill, and remained on my diuretic for a long time. Finally even the diastolic dropped below the 75---and I got off the meds all together, and now with no medication it runs anywhere from 70-80. We spent another day hauling wood. I am so tired, it is ridiculous, but it was excellent exercise I keep telling myself! We heat almost exclusively with wood through the winter, while it is cheaper, it is such a different heat, we both just like it better! We have a very nice wood stove, it has the catlytic converter thing in it, it burns its own smoke, there is hardly any ash, and very little if any smoke visible when it is burning. Neither of our parents have such efficient burning stoves. My folks have an insert in a fireplace, and his have an old woodstove. So we haul a lot of wood for them. Plus our kids were out getting theirs. It was a fun time, the kids all laughed and had fun....think there were times some of the in law kids felt they were laughing more than they were working!!! I took a rotisserie chicken, along with all the food we all took out, and I snacked on chicken, and was so proud of myself, until someone opened the Doritos---there went my good intentions! Now if the ice cream in the freezer would quit calling me I could relax......

We did a family wood cutting day today. All the kids, load up, take food, and off we go into the wild blue yonder to cut and haul wood for the winter. We got about 4 cords---and I am exhausted! Here we are out on this mesa---overlooking an amazing canyon--which we drive up and down---as we scout for down or dead trees. I look at my phone and there was a missed call--well DH had been using it with work, so I redial it, and a woman answers....I say I missed a call from this #---and it was Paula----G4E----OUR Paula! She had some last minute questions regarding her thyroid surgery which is scheduled for Tuesday, and the # that they give her for her Dr. is not the right #!!! She ask about all of you, and said she could do without her computer, but she missed LBT terribly! So hello from G4E---and don't forget her on Tuesday! I now have her # and will call and check on her and report here. It was great talking to her!! Tap---my first size 8's I was in tears over! I am still not a solid size 8. I can usually walk in to any store and grab a size 10 and it will work, but lots of the 8's will not span my waist. The hips work great, but not the waist always. Size 8 jeans, that are low rise, are an easy fit, not so if the rise is higher--my waist is not as defined as it needs to be obviously!!! Ebony good luck on the walk, wogging!! I am proud of you!!! Well I am exhausted, I am going to go to bed! Heart you feeling better?????

Great pics Suzanne! We cut in the neighborhood of 4 cords of wood today. Rick & I, our DS & DIL and DD and SIL, along with a 3 year old, and 2 babies. I am beyond exhausted. Try to post tomorrow. One of the girls from the PJTP thread I am on, called while we were out there, was nice to hear from her!! Need to let that group know I heard from her, she is without internet. Then it is to bed with my sore aching body. I got hit in the shin with a piece of wood, and can barely walk, it did not bleed, but it is so swollen, it looks like someone blew a balloon up under the skin!!!

We are planning a family wood cutting thing tomorrow. Not something I am really looking forward to, although I might appoint myself babysitter, and let the kids do all the work! I know my DH and I, we will work ourselves silly, and send the wood home with the kids, and still be hauling wood after the snow flies. Softball in an of itself is not stressfull. DH is playing on a mens league, DS is on the same team. So DIL and I are at the games together, THAT is my stress! Connor is 3 and friendly, and she lets him wander all over the place. This facility has 10 fields, and of them it is not unusual for 6-7 games to be going on. Now ANYONE who is looking for kids or gets off watching them could be lurking! Plus foul balls fly out often, he does not know what "HEADS" means yet! And the kicker----she lets him wander barefoot much of the time. Guys spit all over, there are sunflower shells everywhere, broken glass, etc. But she lets him go in shorts, and no shoes, yet it is COLD----it was a LATE game----and she has on a Carhart jacket! She lets Garrick come in his carseat, with a receiving blanket! No big blanket to cover him--and the wind has been up lately, and it has sprinkled or rained at the last 2 games. SHE stays warm, but does not MAKE Connor comply or seem worried that Garrick might get cold. So along with all my junk I carry-----a blanket to sit on, and one to cover with, and our water, and jackets---now I find myself lugging another bag full of things for the kids. I should not have to, but everyones comments don't seem to sink in. Frustrates me. Embarrasses me. Angers me. And it really Saddens me. I love her as a DIL most of the time. She is sweet, and I know without a doubt she loves those boys heart and soul. She just does not have a single solitary bit of common sense. Stayed home with Kinsey again today. Fine by me. I am iffy about whether my stomach is good or not. Things are rumbly in there.....feeling kinda queasy. My Mom just called and wants us to go to Chinese for lunch with her and Dad.....not sure I can handle it. Need to get myself dressed anyway, enough laziness!!! See ya in awhile!

LOL.....no aliens.....deer were the culprit. Deer ON the patio. We have had issues this year with both deer and raccoons wanting to eat our garden veggies, and my pots full of plants. What I heard was apparantly a young fawn, jumping up on the table we have next to the BBQ grill, and it is OLD! It is one of the formica topped, chrome edged tables from the 60's. So it is slick, he got up there, then feet went everywhere, and the cupboard we have on there with spices etc in it, got knocked off, and make all kinds of racket! For the last month, you had to be careful walking off the patio. As they graze the perimeter--where I have things planted....and with deer, what goes in, must come out, so I have deer droppings in a pattern right around the edge of the patio. We cleaned it up....and moved the pots in---they usually avoid the cement, and tile. Not so with young 'uns curiosity. I love the deer, but they are annoying the hell outta me! They will not find a nice ripe tomato and eat the entire thing----they find 5 nice ripe tomatoes and take a bit out of each! It is like they have double dipping issues or something, same with the apples, I have them on hind legs out there trying to eat out of the tree as opposed to munching the apples that have fallen from the tree. Anyway---dealt with the mess on the patio, then I was outside....so spent time playing on the swings with my granddaughter---and next thing I knew DH was home and dinner was done, and time to go to the softball game.....which went into the loss column. But it was a close game, a good game, if our team had settled down and played the first innings as confidently as the last we would have been fine, so hopefully as the season goes on, we will be ok. Last one we got seriously whooped, and no amount of keeping our cool would have helped, there was no one over 25 on the team, and they simply outplayed us, in EVERY sense of the word. PLUS they KNEW it. They allowed us to beat ourselves in scoring, because they would seldom hit---they COULD hit, they just waited to see if they could get a walk out of it. Almost everyone of their hits come on a final strike pitch or a full count. I hate that---it is a game, just PLAY! What fun is going up to bat and standing there until you walk to first base? It is FUN to challenge yourself to connect with the ball and then beat it to base. And personally I have to SERIOUSLY hit if I am gonna make it to base!! But it is fun, and they just were snotty. Oh well, we only have to play them one more time! Sorry I disappeared after the ominous noise comment! Heart, sounds to me, like maybe you set your raw throat up for a primary growing ground for another germ. Early on in a band problem, there would be no fever. If it went on long enough for septicemia to be an issue....but in the first hours of a band slip or something there would be no reason for a fever. Sounds like a bug to me. See your Dr.!!! I am home with my granddaughter again today. Does not hurt my feelings. Gonna go play Barbies---wwooooo hooooo I know you are ALL Jealous!!!

Laura, the daycare that Kinsey goes to has what they call Mommy Cams---there are cameras in each of the rooms, and you get a log in when you register, and she can log in anytime--it is ALWAYS up on her computer and see what Kinsey is doing at any given time, she can see how she is interacting with the kids, and when she is napping etc. They also have EXTREMELY stringent check in and check out procedures, and while they will allow a guest into the lobby, and will discuss daycare with them --- they are not allowed back where the children actually are. Kinsey has an ID card on the face of her cubby, it has to be swiped, and whoever is checking her out has to be on the list, and have their picture ID, as well as signing her out, along with the teacher who releases her, initialing it. I was kind of shocked by the strict guidelines, I had not been out of the business that long I didn't think!!! We had a clipboard for each group, and the kids were signed in and out, and whoever picked them up had to be on the permission slip they filled out when enrolling, but that was it! Prior to that, when I did it in my home, I always ask that the parent bring anyone by to introduce to me, who may be picking their child up. In Kinsey's day care she takes her lunch, and she cannot take anything with peanut butter, or peanuts in it. She is not supposed to have more than one small sweet in it, they promote healthy eating. I provided lunch when done in home, and had a HUGE snack bowl!!! They did not have open access to it, but when it was snack time THEY got to choose their snack-----the bowl had fruit, cheese &cracker packages, Little Debbie snacks, all kinds of things! Even when I went outside the home, I kept the bowl going. Some of the kids ate the same snack EVERY day! Others loved the choices! And easily just as many kids chose the bags of grapes or the apples, or the little cups of mandarin oranges as they did the little cakes, and sweets. I heard lots more kids say they didn't ever get grapes at home than kids who said they never got Twinkies at home! Now is the time to start looking around tho---I think that is a wise move. Many churches have a daycare attached, and several here have looooong waiting lists! Which in itself speaks highly. I always got more interest when I was full up than when there was room open! LOL Good Luck on the hunt. And you might consider a look at the local college---a friend of mine, has a girl who comes to her house to watch her daughter for 5 hours a day, and she is a student who is working towards a degree in early childhood education, but needs spending money. She fills out papers for the student who gets credit for the work she is doing. When my Grandma got so ill with Alzheimers, we hired a woman going to nursing school, we found through the college, and she did the same thing, she would sleep there at night, and was there if Gma needed something. It worked out wonderfully. Staying home with Kinsey today who is feeling good again, but has not been fever free for 48 hours, and with the H1N1 scare, that is the new rule at her daycare, and Manda had a meeting with the "wheels" today---------so I took the day off with her, didn't hurt my feelings none!! She is knee deep in Barbies! I love listening to her play them....she makes them nice, and when one was saying ugly things a minute ago, she was put in time out!!! LOL

In hind sight I wish I had gone to the media first, but now that it is in litigation, no one will air it.....day late and many, many dollars short at this point!!! Off to a late softball game, and I have a headache from hell..... Softball is another stress in my life now.....wow it sounds like I am doing nothing but complaining, and I really hate being that way!! So....on the bright side, I can now play softball! I can run, and the only thing flopping are the girls!! And DH kinda likes it thataway!!! See y'all tomorrow!

Lu I would not go permanent plugs either, even the Dr. I work for seldom suggests permanent. Patients think it is to keep bilking them for money, they do not realize that your body changes! Medications given for different issues can cause that to change as well, and then there you are with the plugs being permanent. Weight change affects the plugs, can allow them to be flushed out with a big loss, not sure how it would affect a perm. one. Not something I would have either! BB......wierd noise in the yard!!!

Laura, before you go to work today, take a few of his receiving blankets and put down in your bed--between the sheets. Leave them there, until you take him to your Moms. It will get then scented like you and Russell for him. And they will be small enough she can have them scattered around. You can even roll one up with the shirt you wore yesterday--anything that you have had steady contact with, will scent it to them I was told. Where does he sleep at your Moms? If he uses a bassinet, you can take your pillowcases to use as sheets on the bassinet mattress and they will be scented too.

We made the same decision Tracy. We kept a major credit card---but I am only making the balance go away, not adding to it! Our financial issues are a nightmare right now. BCBS has us sooooo messed up, and yet the problem is not them entirely. Rick went into A fib and a cardiologist admitted him to our local hospital. But when he gets in, on this beautiful new cardiology wing, we find out due to financial differences of opinion, there are no practicing cardiologists on staff. He is there with heart problems and no heart Dr.'s are available. So the hospitalist Dr. he ordered 3 EKG's a day to monitor the progress while using horrible nitro paste on him which give him massive headaches, and did nothing for the A fib. I called insurance, to get him transferred to Albq. but they require a Dr. to transfer, and if we check out AMA to take him ourself, we chance losing coverage for the issue at hand. So he spent 5 days in the hospital, with multiple tests......and finally a GP discharged him so he could go to ABQ. Now insurance has refused for 3 years to pay a cent of the bill, as the tests ordered were not ordered by a qualified cardiologist. We have fought and fought, and been turned into collection over it, even though it was in dispute. Well the collection company says they got a judgement on it, and we never received any notice of any court hearing. So we went to the court house, and sure enough----it says the server put it on our door--which is BS. So now we are fighting it again, have spent way too much on this, but the bill is over $60K! So our credit is tanking, and we cannot seem to stop it. It concerns us over the job DH is trying to get....not to mention the general stress! I have been paying on it, trying to keep our credit in tact, figuring worse case scenario, we end up paying $2750.00 for it, because that is supposed to be our max out of pocket. But BCBS says no it is not an accepted expense. So I tried to get a print out of what all had been paid, because they claimed they paid the acceptable billings, and no one will provide me with a detailed billing. I can get an itemized bill for 2 bucks a page, which I did, but it still does not show what is or is not accepted and why. And no one can or will tell me. Now that I have gone back to work, I do not have time nor patience to spend every off minute dealing with it, so I have been doing the ostrich thing, and poking my head in the sand like it is going away.....and I know it is not. Pray for me, I might hurt someone if it does not straighten out soon! I have been working with a woman who I honestly believe knows less than I do at the insurance commission, and has been zero help......deep deep sigh..... Well that is my story, and my rant.....and the saga of my economic downturn!!! It sucks to be close to $100,000.00 in debt (the $60K was only one year) medically, and still be paying over $500.00 a month out in insurance---and supposedly have coverage. Our issues come in with us being in an area that is out of network, so little is paid, and we end up owing max out of pocket all the time. When you have several surgeries between us, it adds up quicker than I can pay it off.... Credit card was easy Tracy!!! LOL

Whaddaya mean, showing YOU the way? I was following you, I thought you were the "leader"!!!! I tried to respond to you on FB tonight, and FB froze on me, had to open a new window, and by then you were gone....... Well if YOU aren't leading, I'M not either......somebody has to be IT!!!