Kat817

Like I say---lots of these girls are in the process of training in new jobs---and it is a bit hit or miss now and then, but you would be hard pressed to find a more supportive group of women!! Welcome, from the New Mexican Jersey Girl!! Kat

It was a conspiracy against you too Laura---it was just with all of Lauren's high power'd lernin shes gitten in Kollege she figgered it out afore ya! j/k!!! Glad we are ALL back up now!!! Kat

Jenn-at least you are doing the right thing---maybe it is from some sort of shock--or the salt from the food you ate the other day for the parade....who knows, but working out is good for you. What exactly was said and done with work? Does it look like any possiblity that the client will return? What about speaking directly with the client since you do have some knowledge about them now, maybe a job in a different direction??? If you don't want to talk about it I understand. I am off to the dentist. Now I have a bone chip working its way out, right into the space my partial is supposed to fit---major ouch!! Something is up, this dental surgery did not improve my issue with my headache......hmmmm BBL--------- Kat

They probably thought you had a helluva night!!! Do you take any other medications that might be causing this as a side effect? They link weight gain and inability to lose weight to lack of sleep, isn't it amazing how many of us have those problems? Mine is nowhere as severe as you speak of---mine is more of a natural time clock being at odds with my schedule!! If I could stay up til 1AM and sleep til 9AM I would not have a problem. Instead I stay up til 1--go to bed, freak out that I have to be up in 4 hours, and then cannot fall asleep--finally falling asleep only to have to be up 2-3 hours later.....repeat....repeat....repeat!!! The few times I have used anything to sleep I used benedryl....not a great long term plan though, I was a space cadet all day following it. Hope you resolve it soon! Kat

It is that way with a lot of things---not just farmers. We went in to the local feed store yesterday and bought some bags to make sand bags with---spring run off is about to start and the mountains above us are sitting at 170% of average snow pack....back in '05 we flooded pretty bad at 130%. So we went and got the bags, and plan on filling a few each evening....and trying to be prepared. When we get to the feedstore, he has pallets of these bags---stacked about 8 high. They are in bundles of 100---so the pallets are not heavy, but he has tons of them. And he says to us when we bought them and commented on him being prepared....that yep everyone thinks that til he sells the last one....then people come out of the woodwork, wanting them, and complaining that he never stocks what they need!!! Kat

Me too!!! I frantically exchanged emails with those I have email addresses for! And then I got really scared, because the first 2 to reply could get on---I thought it was just me! But finally I made it.....got my fix..........aaaahhhhhhh Kat

ROFLMAO-------------we have a sliming smiley!!!:wink2: :wink2:And a PB'ing one!!! Kat

Jenn---I see you here--How you doin' today? Keep your chin (and you only have one now!!!) up, and plan on moving forward, you have your momentum-------and we are here ready to listen and hand out hugs!!! Here's the first (((((HUG))))) Kat

Oh! It isn't just tires, I have family that owns a couple of John Deere places---they do it with everything!! And every part imaginable no matter how old the machinery should be in stock!!! I work with them on occasion when I end up in TX----that is sooooo true! Kat

MANDY!!!!!!! Where are you? You and Abi ok? I am worried about you! Check in, this is unlike you....MIA---you better not have taken the dang flying monkeys with you either! Jessica--it is almost comical, I think both times I remember a guy being around, it has happened to coincide with one of us having some sort of girlie problems---and we scared 'em off! It wasn't me.....all my girlie organs are decomposed in a land fill somewhere, and have been for years!!! LMAO!! I'll be back in a little while, I am off to the dentist---surprise!! Now I have a bone sliver trying to work itself out, and it is VERY painful. So I see if my dentist can deal with it, or if I have to go back to the Oral surgeon. Maybe it is good, that I was too hazy to have my say to the receptionists!!! Wow---I might have handled that right! Kat

BBK--I took hs's need to purge-----as in purging the built up emotion, to actually say out loud(so to speak) what is going on in his life, rid himself of the feelings and hurt----not purge as in binge and purge.....puke. Hmmmmm I didn't respond to it, because I read it differently. hs--------you can talk, cry, whine, bitch, moan and or groan------but no puking!! LOL Kat

hs--so sorry you are facing such a traumatic event as the separation. It is not easy---especially when you are blindsided by things. Did your wife give you any reason? I hate that this has caused you to slip in your wonderful start with your band. I think I would suggest you try to use the emotions to spur on the weight loss, as opposed to allowing it to re invite old eating ways. Emotion takes a lot of energy---so when you want to eat, try getting out and taking a walk, it will give you time to think, time to form statements or questions in your mind that you want to bring up when talking with her or your councellor. Plus it will get you away from teh food, and get you some exercise at the same time. I know they do not compare, but I too went through a trauma not long after being banded. MY DH almost died from a heart problem, and a following GI bleed. I too got to where it was easy to grab chips or candy in a vending machine, and when I got home, I kept it up. My nerves were on edge---it was touch and go---and I was a basket case! Part of his recovery involved him walking. Well he would walk only short distances to start. So when I saw he was ok, when we got back, just ready for a quick nap---and I saw how much better getting out and moving made me feel---I got to where I would walk him back home, and then go for awhile longer. I thought about all the possible things that I was facing---not knowing if he was going to be able to return to work, whether I needed to consider going back to work, what kind of work I could do. I thought about recipes for heart healthy things I could cook us-----you name it! I thought about it. It was very cathartic. Not to mention, it kept me away from the food, and also got me much needed exercise. In your case, I hope your wife can make a decision in her life, that will allow you to move forward with yours regardless. Doing that with less pounds, and in better health will be much easier. Stress raised your blood pressure, as does extra weight, so the more you eliminate, the better off you will be. Try getting some SF popsicles, and eat them as needed. When you need something in your hand to move back and forth to your mouth--use a popsicle! When you get mad and need to cool down---do so literally---with a popsicle. Find several foods, that you can have on hand and within easy reach to grab and use at this point in time to soothe yourself with. Thinking you can face all this without some sort of crutch, is unrealistic! And food has always been one of our BIG crutches or we would not be banded. Just try to have foods that will not cause you to stall----keep your head about you and remember for her to love you, you have to love you-------and sticking to this and getting yourself healthy is one of the best ways you can do that. Please keep us informed, and let us know you are ok! (((hugs))) I am very sorry for the pain I know you are dealing with. Kat

Actually the girl I spoke with at the insurance was really nice. She give me her direct extension, saying since she knew what I was waiting for she would be able just to put the info in and see if anything had come up on it, and I would not have to repeat my story everyday when I called. So...#1 she actually already knew I would be calling everyday!!! and #2, is willing to give me her X # so I don't have to tell my life story a hundred times. Now I just hope the Dr.'s staff is upstanding in what they say they did as far as mailing them. Since it is a first submission, it has to be original pictures etc---and has to be mailed, not faxed or emailed..... Will let y'all know! Kat

I think tire shops are a perfect example of catching people off guard. When they end up with a ruined tire, or have let them go til they are bare...and suddenly are faced with the fact that it is going to be several hundred dollars they hadn't budgeted for---or they are grounded....they freak out and you get the brunt of it! These are expenses that always seem to hit at the worst of times--but how that ends up being the shop employees fault I have no idea! My DH worked as a mechanic in a station (back when they had mechanics on duty and they pumped your gas for you!), while he was putting himself through college. He said people would try to blame him for doing something to their cars.....oh and the fact that it is dry of oil----yeah he must have snuck over to their house a few days ago and drained it! He said the same thing, they would come in and cuss and freak out because a tire they just had fixed last week was flat again. Well back when they plugged the tire, it could happen on occasion, but more often it was another nail or screw---and they would insist that they did not drive where there were things like that, and since it was just like the one you took out last week, I just don't believe it! He would call me so frustrated!!!! One thing is for sure---- working these jobs-----does give us insight into how to, and how not to treat people trying to do their job!!! Kat

Wheetsin---did you get in to your Dr.? We are worried about you! Kat

Cereal.....I try to eat it, because of the fiber! But I can only eat a small amount---maybe 1/2 cup cereal max. I eat Honey Bunches of Oats, 1 shredded wheat biscuit, Grapenuts, Cheerios....I usually use a packet of Sweet & Low, and 2% milk. Other mornings I eat yogurt, and I toss about 1/4 of a cup of granola in my yogurt. I will also use the bite size shredded wheat as a snack, if I am feeling a need to munch, because I can always use the Fiber, to keep things regular....if ya get my drift!!! I can eat hot cereals---small amounts again. One envelope of instant oatmeal is way more than enough....I usually don't finish it all. So about the same amount of Cream of Wheat does it for me. The hot cereals don't stay with me for some reason like the cold does, if I eat hot cereal, I am not full for a long time. Not sure if it is the warmth and the mushie together, allows it to pass quickly or what. Eggs---I can eat them most ways if I am careful. I used to have a hard time with them scrambled, but not anymore. It seems they go easier if I have some thing scrambled in with them---like a bit of meat---ham, sausage---or maybe some onion and peppers, and a bit of cheese, make it more omelet like. The additional food seems to make it break down easier and I am able to chew it to a better consistency before swallowing it. Hard boiled might be too dry--I don't know....I don't like them so have not tried them! Breakfast is harder for me. I am tighter in the AM. I try to get something eaten though, as I have heard to need to in order to get your metabolism woke up so to speak. I am no expert, so I don't know----just going by what works!!! Kat

CTCD--Cut The Crap Day.....we pledge not to eat junk....aka crap!!! Yes ladies, a Goth dressing, Gay, mortician. I tried to think of a PC way to describe him, but he is who he is! I cracked up at you and your DD Terry....and we wonder why Frank worries!!! This guys name is I would guess Thomas---he calls himself Tomas as it is pronounced in Spanish. But he is very pale skinned, and his last name is not hispanic at all..... He is openly gay---and I have a theory that maybe the original plan was for them (He and his partner)to have this child that my former DIL had....but she is raising him. And they have nothing nice to say about one another! Now y'all are probably wondering how I know all this!!! I told you about the girl who rents from us....Celeste. She is single, she is a hairdresser, who happens to work with Tomas' current partner Karl. And he talks. Linsey (former DIL) her Mom is also a hairdresser, specializing in a new weave technique, and was doing a tour of shops with it, and spent some time in the shop where Celeste and this Karl work. So.....it is pure and total gossip!!! As far as her having the child, the fact that she now lives with Larinda, and says she has known she preferred women since she was 7--she told me herself when we ran into her out on New Years Eve. I saw them together (Linsey, Larinda and Tomas) at Chilis they stopped at our table. He has the very asymetrical multi level blunt cut hair, over one eye---jet black. Lots of black eyeliner, black lips, lots of piercings, a few visible tattoos. He is pretty small--maybe 5'6" and super thin---the only bulges in those jeans girls were hip bones---------I told you I looked!! Skin tight black ripped shirts,several layered over one another, and the mentioned skin tight, all the way to the ankle black jeans, and old style converse black basketball shoes. Manda called him something else, Laura likely knows, she said he is not a skater, but he is not really Goth either, she said they have their own name--I don't know it though. So at the restaurant that night, she says to him when she introduced us----this is Roy's niece. My Uncle Roy was a mortician---and he knew him, she explained through one of the local mortuaries. Tomas, smiled through seriously pierced lips, and lisped (not sure if it was piercing induced or not!) "He ith an exthremely kind man"--at which point I thought my DH was going to laugh out loud. Our former DIL, is by contrast a very big girl! She is almost 6 feet tall, very large boned, not fat, but not small in any way----I'd say a curvy size 20/22. Her partner is Native American, and shorter by far, and heavy as well. So with them sandwiching this little guy---they stood and talked and drew LOTS of attention!! I laughed, I think Rick cringed!!! So.....as said, he is what he is. When I detail this out, I see where it might be a good thing my son stays away from it for awhile, until he can better control his temper. Linsey's parents are very nice people, and it seems they spend a lot of time with the 2 older grandkids anyway---so I pray everynight for them both, and feel like it is the best I can do at this point. Well we colored eggs!!! What fun we had. I let her do as she pleased, and she made most of them one color....but one egg, she had to experiment with everything on-----it is a masterpiece!!! I finally got back in here---thought I had been ousted from LBT!! BBL~~~ somebody just brought me an armful of books that must be read!! Kat

Hey at least your MIL acknowledges you have lost weight!!! My SIL and I went to be banded together. She is a horrid bandster, no exercise, she has lost her weight simply due to starvation, had herself so tight at one point she dehydrated enough to do kidney damage!!! She has her DD doing her fills and unfills!!! So by doing all this, she dropped suddenly from a size 24 to a size 8. I have gone much slower....make that M U C H slower!!!!! LOL, but I have gone from a size 22/24 to a comfortable size 14 which will drop if I can follow in your footsteps with the TT. So....my SIL took 2 of her 3 DD's to be banded, and they are doing just like us....1 is at goal and cannot eat still, and the other is like me, slowly dropping. I mentioned to my loving MIL, that the one niece is just going to do like I did....and she tells me......"Oh no! I think she will be successful, it might just take her longer".........I kept telling myself--she is 80---she cannot remember what you started at. But every now and then the old "you failed" message gets tossed at me, and I come sooooo close to losing it! And I get the message from my SIL, that she did not do something as drastic as WLS to only be a size 14, she wants to be THIN, not normal---to her normal is still just less fat. So for my birthday last year----quite a few pounds ago, they bought me clothes, my MIL & SIL--bought me size 10 capri's and size 8 blouses. I wear a 38DDD bra-----on what universe are these babies EVER gonna fit in a size 8??? I will be going to a 36 soon---as my bras are getting loose again, but an 8? Gimme a break! It is hard not to let people like that mess with your mind---that is why (well one of a bazillion reasons) I love the support here at LBT. Even when I joined, before surgery, I was accepted, and supported----you guys are always there! Kat

When you really stop to think about how small the pouch is that you will be filling, you realize you need to pack a lot of nutrition in a small space. So while we don't have to diet per se, we do need to attempt to eat a healthy variety of nutrition in little amounts of food. So since as has been said, we have lots of fats to spare----eliminating the biggest majority of them is easiest!!! Plus the carbs are generally softer foods. So they do not stay with us for as long, so we get hungry sooner. Eating lean protein, allows us to feel full for hours on end with just a small amount. Some people have seriously dieted---either low carb, or simple calorie counting---and exercised faithfully--and they have dropped their weight FAST!!!! Personally I go for all things in moderation, and my weight is going slower---but it is still going! It is recommended to eat protein first, fiber second, and starches and sweets last. Is it required to eat that way? It wasn't by my Dr. Welcome to LBT---nice to have you here! Kat

LOL--but you can make some adjustments!!! Instead of wearing your lightweight flip flops, wear something like heavy Doc Martins sandals---mine I had were heavy---I seriously bet they would bump you 3 pounds on their own!!! You can always drop some weight---a roll of quarters is what I have heard of people using down the bra!!! Even if you wear say capri's make them heavier denim, and wear a belt, with a heavy buckle---every few ounces, leads to the next pound! Do some practice runs, see how much you can add, by little things, a bangle bracelet, some big earrings!! Keep piling it on!!! LOL Kat

Well I did it....I called insurance. They say they have not received anything yet. I called the Dr. they say it has been mailed for over 10 days, that it is likely in the process of being entered into BCBS's system---to give it time. aaaAAARRRGHHH I don't wanna! I want it done yesterday! I guess I can relax the next few days when the mail comes.....dammit! Oh well--I called, they were nice, congratulated me on the weight loss!!! While I had her on the line I ask about coverage if I were to have complications, she said yes I am covered, since they do cover the surgery, even though they did not cover mine, they will cover complications-------that was a relief to know! Kat

TY--Laura (Fairy Facade) made them up for us....I feel like I am one of the IN crowd now!!! LMAO!!! Kat

I had my phone line and my DSL disconnected earlier for an electrical pole change in the alley--I was afraid it was something from that---------and it was Pamela......what shall we do with her???? Kat

Wear your heaviest clothes, and drink lots before your first appointment--then if you have a rough patch, it will not show up as a gain! Many women tend to carry extra weight during TOM--so give yourself a few pounds insurance. Myself, I was plenty heavy enough--but I would not have hesitated to help things along!! Kat

I checked with my insurance, and they will cover any complications. They would have covered my band had I been willing and able to continue for another year--at the time they had a 12 month medically supervised WL attempt clause. I did it for 10 1/2 months and was in a car accident that left me hospitalized and in surgery--and interupted my 12 CONSECUTIVE months, so was going to have to start over. Which was a technicality-------but insurance would not cover another sleep study, psyche evaluation, cardio consult, none of the pre op testing without reason for referral again for 2 years, so all of that needing to be done within 3 months of surgery--would have been out of pocket! So in the end, the driver at fault---her insurance settled with me, and I used that to self pay in MX. BUT since my insurance would pay for the surgery (now with much less hoop jumping involved! of course!), they will cover complications. Would cover fills-IF there was anyone in network to do them.....and there isn't! I was glad to find this out! GREAT question! Kat